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From: angel108b@yahoo.com
To: jaya@jiva.org
Haribol. Another question. Is Satyanarayan acting as a siksha guru to the Narayana Maharaja guy Premprayojana, and NM is Tamal's chief bucket boy?
ys pd
Both sādhus have spent most of their lives in their bhajana-kuṭīras, sitting and chanting mantras. When they set out for a walk with their japa-mālā in hand, they do so as part of their specific sādhana during a brief daily parikrama—their walk is an extension of their unwavering attachment to the nāma and iṣṭa-devatā... and so the japa-mālā beads seem unwilling to stop flowing between their fingers. Will the still, rural setting of Vṛndāvana—with its sacred sthālīs, tīrthas, and mandiras—or the vrajavāsīs themselves stir their minds as much as the hectic context of modern cities does?
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They aren't affected by ISKCON's evangelist fever; they aren't zealous preachers with a motley proselytizing agenda; they aren't leaders of religious corporations who walk with a japa-mālā in hand during their 'morning walk' while teaching spirituality and devising strategies to attack māyā. They are neither busy householders from the West, of course.
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Look, these sādhus do not discriminate against or reject ISKCON / Gauḍīya-maṭha members as apasampradāyīs, such as Bhaktisiddhānta continually did to members of their parivāras; and this is why many people, many bhaktas go to take darśana and śikṣā from these two holy men.
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Prāṇa-kṛṣṇa dāsa bābājī and Vinoda-vihāri dāsa bābājī belong to a generation of sādhus that we will likely never see again.
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P.S. I recently saw a podcast with Prem Prayojan Das talking about the bhāgavata–guru–paramparā. According to that tradition, does he pay his respects to the various bābājīs of Rādhā-kuṇḍa (to whom he sometimes visits) and to Satyanārāyaṇa Dāsa (for whom he receives śikṣā that is impossible to find elsewhere)? Could they be part of Prem Prayojan / ISKCON / Gauḍīya-maṭha paramparā? Will they accept the modern bābājīs into their bhāgavata-paramparā?
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PADA: I have received a letter from the Jiva Institute saying that Satya Vani and Satyanaran are not the same person, and I should correct that. OK I will if I can get this clarified. But they both preach the same identical idea as the Babajis, the so-called Parivars etc. which Jagadananda (Jiva Institute) used to debate with me.
It could be that they are different people who preach the same thing and have the same influences, I am not saying that is not possible. I have asked for a clarification from them. Jagadananda used to argue with me that our line is defective and the Babaji line is authorized, and it does appear that Satya Vani / Satyanarayan / Kundali / Jiva Institute are preaching the same. And Kundali was arguing with me the same things and he was another Jiva Institute guy.
Of course this does beg the question, why is Satya Vani not identifying who he is, while preaching the same as the Jagadananda / Kundali / Jiva Institute siddhanta? Why is this person preaching the same way as Jagadananda used to argue, but remains anonymous? There is only one review on their Amazon books, and it identifies them as the Parivars. If none of this is true they should clarify for our readers and for their Amazon review.
The Satya Vani listed in Chat GPT seems to be some business person in India, so there is no verified evidence who he or she is, however if it talks like a duck, acts like a duck etc. Anyway I am glad they want this cleared up, so do our readers.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
From: angel108b@yahoo.com
To: jaya@jiva.org
Haribol. Another question. Is Satyanarayan acting as a siksha guru to the Narayana Maharaja guy Premprayojana, and NM is Tamal's chief bucket boy?
ys pd
Under the Satya vani forum:
Prāṇa-kṛṣṇa dāsa bābājī and Vinoda-vihāri dāsa bābājī belong to a generation of sādhus that is gradually disappearing. Future generations of bhaktas will find it difficult to attain their level of devotional purity and tapasya-śakti.
.Both sādhus have spent most of their lives in their bhajana-kuṭīras, sitting and chanting mantras. When they set out for a walk with their japa-mālā in hand, they do so as part of their specific sādhana during a brief daily parikrama—their walk is an extension of their unwavering attachment to the nāma and iṣṭa-devatā... and so the japa-mālā beads seem unwilling to stop flowing between their fingers. Will the still, rural setting of Vṛndāvana—with its sacred sthālīs, tīrthas, and mandiras—or the vrajavāsīs themselves stir their minds as much as the hectic context of modern cities does?
.
They aren't affected by ISKCON's evangelist fever; they aren't zealous preachers with a motley proselytizing agenda; they aren't leaders of religious corporations who walk with a japa-mālā in hand during their 'morning walk' while teaching spirituality and devising strategies to attack māyā. They are neither busy householders from the West, of course.
.
Look, these sādhus do not discriminate against or reject ISKCON / Gauḍīya-maṭha members as apasampradāyīs, such as Bhaktisiddhānta continually did to members of their parivāras; and this is why many people, many bhaktas go to take darśana and śikṣā from these two holy men.
.
Prāṇa-kṛṣṇa dāsa bābājī and Vinoda-vihāri dāsa bābājī belong to a generation of sādhus that we will likely never see again.
.
P.S. I recently saw a podcast with Prem Prayojan Das talking about the bhāgavata–guru–paramparā. According to that tradition, does he pay his respects to the various bābājīs of Rādhā-kuṇḍa (to whom he sometimes visits) and to Satyanārāyaṇa Dāsa (for whom he receives śikṣā that is impossible to find elsewhere)? Could they be part of Prem Prayojan / ISKCON / Gauḍīya-maṭha paramparā? Will they accept the modern bābājīs into their bhāgavata-paramparā?
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GBC giving ritvik on behalf of one another, but not Prabhupada?
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First initiation:
-Shanti Mataji (Lenasia) will now be know as Subhadra devi dasi
-Rehana Mataji (Sandton) will now be know as Rohini devi dasi
-Nalini Mataji (Sandton) will now be know as Nirguna Prema devi dasi
-Vivek Prabhu (Midrand) will now be know as Vishwathma das
Second Initiation:
-Mitra Vinda Mataji (Lenasia)
-Haridas Prabhu (Sandton)
-Nirmala Devi Dasi (Sandton) (First from HH Bhakti Charu Swami)
-Puspamalini Mataji (Lenasia) (HH Lokanath Swami Maharaj - sat for the yajna)
-Asoka Manjari (Lenasia) (HH Partha Sarathi Goswami Maharaj - sat for the yajna)
Srila Prabhupada ki jay
-Rehana Mataji (Sandton) will now be know as Rohini devi dasi
-Nalini Mataji (Sandton) will now be know as Nirguna Prema devi dasi
-Vivek Prabhu (Midrand) will now be know as Vishwathma das
Second Initiation:
-Mitra Vinda Mataji (Lenasia)
-Haridas Prabhu (Sandton)
-Nirmala Devi Dasi (Sandton) (First from HH Bhakti Charu Swami)
-Puspamalini Mataji (Lenasia) (HH Lokanath Swami Maharaj - sat for the yajna)
-Asoka Manjari (Lenasia) (HH Partha Sarathi Goswami Maharaj - sat for the yajna)
Srila Prabhupada ki jay
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