Bhakti Vikas vs Hrdayananda / Sva Diksha / Abuse victims silenced 11 16 25

PADA: OK so now all of a sudden Bhakti Vikas swami / BVKS is swatting away at Hrdayananda, one of the original founder fathers of the illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's project, that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas. And the result is -- the temples are empty, ISKCON is bankrupted, thousands of molested kids are alienated, and the Hindus are taking over. 

And that is also why BVKS has made his own head quarters in India, so he too can cater to the Hindus. But that is NOT the REAL problem. The problem is that Hrdayananda is attacking Srila Prabhupada's statements. Ummm, you mean the founder fathers of the homosexual and pedophile messiah's club are not the real problem, there is a more serious issue somewhere else?

Hrdayananda writes in his "Bhagavatam" edition that he adores the great service of Srila Kirtanananda Bhaktipada Swami and Srila Bhavananada Vishnupada Swami, the two worst cases of homosexual and pedophile gurus in ISKCON. That is not the problem either. And BVKS is 2/3 show of hands voted into the Kirtanananda, Bhavananda, and Hrdayananda guru parampara, and that is where he gets his guru certificate from. Also not a problem. 

Not sure what it takes to become a real problem with these folks. Yes, Hrdayananda has been a big supporter of the molester messiahs program. Yes. Hundreds if not thousands of children, and no small amount of women, were dis-robed, sometimes starved and beaten, and often abused -- if not sexually assaulted. That has never been the problem either? What does it take for things to become an actual problem for these guys?

BVKS wrote a thundering complaint about Radhanath, only to retract it and apologize later. He seems to be poking the bear here and there, but when the bear roars back, he retreats. Sorry, he is not actually addressing the real problems, but he makes pretend he is to make himself out as the real reformer, without actually reforming anything. 

And this is begging the question, since Hrdayananda is the sum total of the demigods already, why does he need correcting? Disrobing Draupadi story from 5,000 years ago is the REAL problem, not the current ISKCON's leaders problem of orchestrated innocent women and children being disrobed, and them being factually assaulted, if not sexually assaulted. Yep, that is never the REAL problem for these guys. Told ya! ys pd

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Madhusudana Russia and the SVA DIKSHA UPDATE

Hare Krishna Prabhu

All glories to Srila Prabhupada. I just want to ask why there is a disagreement between you and Madhusudana Das (Russia Iskcon News). He now says all kinds of nasty things about you, which I don't think are true, because he claims you twisted his words because of your so-called "ritvik dogmas.".

Sorry to say this, but others have also said that Madhusudana Das is like that.
He supposedly lives quite isolated. Others say this too. I'm not sure if you should take his posts so seriously. Sorry, I just thought I'd mention it.

(The original movement is already falling apart enough as it is, so at least you disciples who are still present could stick together!)

Hare Krisna

PADA: I simply posted what Madhusudana said -- with my replies -- on my blog, that he is promoting sva-diksha, and that was never authorized by Srila Prabhupada, nor was that process mentioned as bona fide by any previous acharyas. Sva means oneself and diksha means spiritual initiation. For starters, a conditioned soul cannot absorb his own sins, he needs to have help from a higher source -- and that is called taking diksha from a self realized person -- and the ritviks say that that person is Srila Prabhupada, not ourself. 

He is always welcome to explain how a person can absorb their own sins -- and on their own -- develop divyam jnanam on their sva -- own. Apart from that, ok the ritviks are wrong, but they are the only people printing and distributing original books. How will the books sva print and distribute themselves? He never explains. Anyway, whoever wants to present a better argument is always welcome to do that and I will post it. He has never responded to the posts I made. 

And since he says there should not be anymore formal diksha initiations, he wants the deities to have no trained initiated servants, whereas Srila Prabhupada says we need 50 initiated people just here in Berkeley. He has no answer. "Silence means acceptance" (Chanakhya Pandit). 

Sva-diksha is actually the mayavada term and process, you find God on your own by meditation, it is mayavada. I also cited Chat GPT saying exactly that. Even Chat GPT defeats what he says ... he is fighting with his own shadow. In any case Srila Prabhupada made the ritvik order, not me, thus if he does not approve of Prabhupada's process, he made himself the next acharya. 

But this is not new, the ritviks opened up the child molesting issue, book changes issue, poison issue and other issues. And the sva diksha people could not fix any of these problems and they never will. The sva diksha people are sitting around meditating on their sva self and that means -- allowing all these problems to go on and not be resolved.  

But yeah, as soon as we ritviks had the GBC sued for mass child molesting, a lot of so-called Prabhupada people also objected. They have no ability to fix a broke light bulb never mind more serious issues. 

But this happens all the time, the people who attack PADA are de facto helping the pedo guru lover's club. Sulochana said that all the time, the people who attack us are enabling the pedo gurus, and that includes people like Mathura Pati / HKC Jaipur / Prabhupadanugas EU, who says that PADA is a liar and a mad man, which is exactly what their pedo gurus say.   

They have been acting as Kirtanananda's parrot. In any case, I do not see any of these folks making any sort of substantial process that is better than ours, nor are they able to bring out important issues like the child abuse, book changes, or poison case, or many other important items, because they have never understood these issues clearly. 

Sulochana is right, discrediting us is helping, aiding, abetting and enabling the homosexual and pedophile messiah's program, that is the tangible and factual result. These people cannot even argue with Sulochana, he was taken out because -- he is 100% accurate. Anyway, sva diksha yourself and absorb all your own sins, and you will end up on patala along with all your sins. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com    

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PADA: Yep, and Mr. Trump is mentioned all over the place too. For once I agree with Nick Fuentes, Margorie Taylor Green etc., there is a reason these files are being suppressed. And now more people are saying these guys invented Q-anon and Pizza gate as a diversion to cover up their program. Wow pilgrims, it is really unravelling. In short! The victims are still suffering from not getting proper justice, and we hope they start to get some after all this time. Almost no one is focused on the suffering victims, hey, just like ISKCON. ys pd