JM: While acknowledging the rubber stamping of sampradaya Acaryas is bogus according to Srila Prabhupada, the GBC nevertheless, in effect, performs precisely this function every Gaura Purnima at Mayapur, year after year. We now have over a hundred initiating gurus, all anointed with the “no objection” stamp of approval. All these gurus are being worshipped as “saksad-hari” (“as good as God”) in accordance with the GBC’s own directives for disciples; these initiating acaryas are heralded as “current links” to a disciplic succession of maha-bhagavatas stretching back thousands of years to the Supreme Lord Himself:
They tell us that “Devotees should take shelter of the representatives of Srila Prabhupada who are the current link in the disciplic succession.” At the same time, however, the aspiring disciple is sternly warned that ISKCON approval “...is not automatically to be taken as a statement about the degree of God-realization of the approved guru”.
Elsewhere we are further cautioned: “When a devotee is allowed to carry out the “order” of Srila Prabhupada to expand the disciplic succession by initiating new disciples it is not to be taken as a certification or endorsement of his being an “uttama adhikary” or “pure devotee”, or to having achieved any specific state of realization.”
That these gurus are not to be worshipped by everyone in the temple, but only by their own disciples in a separate place. But, this is the only type of bona fide diksa guru that is supposed to be an authorized Maha bhagavata. But, the actual “order” was for ritviks and siksa gurus. Thus, to describe anyone as a “current link” or “initiator guru” is synonymous with claiming he is an “uttama-adhikari” or a “pure devotee”.
We would venture that it is infelicitous to approve, or “not object” to, the creation of these diksa gurus, and simultaneously disavow any blame or responsibility should they deviate. This is what’s termed “living in denial” according to modern psychological parlance. Most devotees are very sure Srila Prabhupäda did not intend ISKCON to be a type of lottery, or Russian roulette, where the stake is someone’s spiritual life. Perhaps the GBC should refrain from further rubber stamping until they can stand one hundred percent behind those they approve.
[PADA: Thanks SW for sending me the link to Bhakti Vikas swami saying "the Vedic knowledge is like a ripened mango fruit -- it is handed down from one pure devotee to the next." That sounds very good -- in theory -- except BVKS has rejected that system entirely. He does not believe this is the system. Wholesale!
OK! BVKS says the ripened fruit of Vedic knowledge is first passed from a pure devotee -- but not to another pure devotee. Rather, he says the ripened fruit is passed to BVKS pals -- OK his illicit sex with men, women and children gurus; his pedophile gurus; his porno swami; his drunk and drug addict gurus; his orchestrating murders messiahs etc. -- pals, whom he claims are "in the disciplic line from Krishna."
Did we forget to mention -- one of BVKS's alleged "pure devotee guru links who has been handling the ripened fruit of Vedic knowledge" was lecturing -- it is ok for gurus to wear condoms when they are having sex with their therapist. And when we complained to Svavasa, Sura, Govinda Datta etc. -- they said that we need to keep his photo on the altar anyway.
Thus BVKS party wants to include their condom-pada pals into their alleged "guru chain from Krishna." And BVKS is infuriated when someone wants to -- exclude -- his condom wearing messiah pals project from the parampara from God. Yes, I agree, it is amazing that BVKS mixes used condoms into the parampara from God. The ripened fruits of used condoms, and the Vedas, and BVKS cannot distinguish which is which.
Yup! Life is simple for BVKS party. (A) There is God -- and then (B) There are God's successors, i.e. those who are wearing condoms when having illicit sex; indeed there is an entire orgy party going on with BVKS messiahs -- having illicit sex with men, women and children; having sex with boys in their motorhome; dating minor aged females; watching porno; offering LSD to the shalagram deity etc. And that is what BVKS program thinks is "a succession of gurus from God." Are they going to pass you a ripened mango, or a used condom? BVKS party does not even know -- which is which -- self evidently.
In other words, BVKS' party thinks that worshiping their condom wearing messiahs is "saksat hari tvena" -- the same thing as worshiping Vyasadeva, Lord Krishna and Lord Chaitanya. Therefore, BVKS party cannot distinguish that condom wearing deviants and Srila Vyasadeva are -- not one and the same type of entity.
The ripened fruit of Vedic knowledge goes from Vyasa, to BVKS' party's condom wearing deviants. And then BVKS' party's condom wearing deviants "2/3 show of hands" vote in the next wave of alleged ripened fruit passing messiahs. OK they voted in BVKS. Why does BVKS think that the same deviant people who are engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children etc. are -- the recipients and givers of the ripened fruit of Vedic knowledge?
Moreover, BVKS is infuriated when someone says that the Vedas are passed from one pure devotee to the next. BVKS says that idea -- that the Vedas are passed from one pure devotee to the next -- is "the ritvik deviation," because he cannot stand having his pedophile pals being excluded from his pedophile guru chain process.
So BVKS' party has the Vedas first being given by the pure devotee, and then passed to their deviant pals -- OK sex with taxi drivers in the dham-pada, condom-pada, LSD-pada, sex and drugs-pada, assorted deviant's et al. ... forming their alleged guru chain from God. And anyone who does not believe that there is sex with taxi drivers, used condoms etc. in the guru chain is "a ritvik deviant."
In other words, BVKS wants to help enforce their GBC policy -- anyone who accepts the idea that the Vedas are passed from one pure devotee to the next -- and not passed to his pedophile etc. pals -- shall be banned, beaten, exiled, sued, and maybe assassinated for not accepting their condom wearing / sex with taxi drivers in the dham / guru parampara.
Yep! Anyone who says that the Vedic knowledge is passed from one pure devotee to the next, and not from pure devotees to -- condom-pada, sex with taxi drivers in the dham-pada, LSD-pada, drunk-pada, sex with half dozen disciples-pada etc. -- has to be banned, beaten, sued, and -- worse. That means BVKS has no idea what is Vedic knowledge, how it is transmitted etc.
In sum, taking knowledge from his parampara is "Russian roulette."
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M Dasi: I think the GBC has confused the different types of ripened fruits of this world. When I change a baby's diaper ... that is one kind of ripened fruit. In that case ... the more ripe it is ... the worse it is. Not the same as a ripe mango. Their ripe mango is more like the ripe baby diaper and not a sweet mango. That is why the temple emptied out here. They stunk up the place too badly.
ReplyDeleteSomeone needs to tell them that.
Does Bhakti Vikas swami think his homosexual and pervert friends are God's guru parampara gift to the earth? Does anyone not see the obvious connection here? We do. Mayapur has a lot of them there. Many of their swamis have homosexual mannerism etc. And they talk bad about us women. All the time!
There is something going on with their clique ... and it is more like a ripe diaper than a ripe mango. They are on the bodily platform of life. He is maybe a homosexual ... maybe a pervert ... maybe he is wearing a condom when he has illicit sex ... so ... he is my guru bhai. Ripened sweet mango fruits?
Or stinky diaper ripened fruits? And they cannot tell us which is which. We had to find out for ourselves ... they have no idea what is the difference from Vedic fruit and diaper stinking fruit. Women should be Mothers and not Masters. Why? ... because we know the difference between a ripe diaper and a ripe mango ... and that infuriates them. Where does Krishna say ... ripe diaper and ripe mango ... are the same thing? And why do they never answer our question?