PADA: @ angel108b@yahoo.com
PADA: Urmila's support for the GBC's false guru program is what has defamed ISKCON. Even one of their bigger Hindu supporters recently says ISKCON in America has failed -- because even their best preachers like Vaisesika cannot attract any Western people to his program. ISKCON has a bad name all over the planet actually, but especially in the West.
That is also why their biggest gurus have fled the West to set up shop in Eastern Europe, Russia, India etc. OK like Bhakti Vikas swami. BVKS cannot come to the West to sell his illicit sex with men, women and children -- and cats? -- guru process, so he had to take his bogus molester messiah's guru products to sell somewhere else.
Now the BVKS / India ICC Bureau folks have people worshiping a pedophile in India, but their pedophile messiah from India has barely any following in the West. The people of the West have little interest in worshiping pedophiles as their messiahs, and they never will have any. The Urmila program cannot attract hardly any Westerners, and even when they do attract a few here and there, these few often eventually reject their process -- like Hanuman has.
But even these "out of touch with ISKCON's bad news" people cannot always be fooled forever, which is how the GBC has made enemies in India, Russia and even Hanuman became their enemy. Urmila is one of the pals of the Krishna West program, and we all know how that is defaming and dividing ISKCON. The temples are ghost towns, that is what Lokanath said in 1988, and it has just got worse since then. A ghost town program has already defamed itself, no outside help needed.
DEAR PADA (from GKD): RE Hanuman Croatia Has Departed
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PAMHO,
Sorry to hear about the passing of Hanuman.
I agree with your comments.
Having said that, please consider posting this, if you have not already done so.
https://lastingimpression.info/book-the-journey-home-debunked/
Hare Krishna. CPD.
MDD: Hanuman is right about this. He says he cannot preach to others to come and join ISKCON ... when he cannot join. Preaching has been halted.
ReplyDeleteAnd that harms mass of public -- taking away access to Krishna. He says he has no enthusiasm to advertise. Multiply that by tens of thousands of others who also lost enthusiasm. Easy to see how ISKCON has become a ghost town or grave yard.
Hanuman did not see how we could fix this problem exactly. Edith Best is one of the people making the problem. At least this shows ... they are reading the Hanuman site.
I am sure they are also reading PADA sites. They just want to keep the status quo ... where they are exploiting the few remaining leftover fragments. They ate up most of the ISKCON body ... now the ICC and NA GBC are fighting over the few leftover remnants. I like where you say ... thieves fighting over stolen bread. That is really what this is.
Hanuman was not able to trust the ritviks ... or other seniors ... because he does blame them for allowing the deviations ... could not blame him? It does look like most "senior" people supported or allowed ... and that would create confusion everywhere ... even for Hanuman.
MPD: Despite any “good” Hanuman das may have done, he also blasphemed His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada by calling his worship ... as the current diksa guru ... “the dead zombie guru tattva”. To my mind, he was no different from those leaders who also regarded Srila Prabhupada as “dead” - like Trivikrama Swami and Jayapataka Swami.
ReplyDeleteGBC guru Trivrikrama swami was advertising Hanuman's speaking and sending people the link to go listen to Hanuman. Something is wrong when the GBC's gurus, and even friends of Radhanath, love what you are saying! He was saying a lot of negative things about the worship of Prabhupada ... basically repeating slogans he heard from GBC people.
In other words ... Hanuman is contaminated by GBC propaganda and he never got free of it. That is very unfortunate. He has probably found out by now ... worship of a pure devotee is not "the dead zombie guru tattva" ... and he made a major mistake saying that it is.
And what happened instead is ... he became dead and not the worship of the pure devotee. I hate to have to point this out but ... no one is allowed to say worship of a pure devotee is a dead zombie worship program. Worship of a pure devotee is the entire program ... top to bottom ... there is no "other" program.
There is no example in shastra where the Vaishnavas are saying worship of the pure devotee is the dead zombie worship system ... he was copying the bogus gurus slogans ... and he was not able to free himself of their grip. Perhaps it is Krishna's will ... he had to be freed by other means ... to stop him from going down further.