Prolog: please Excuse my lousy english, I‘m a Little lazy….
BUT: as a spiritual seeker after Reading all of your excellent PADA posts I ask myself: is there any legitimate future for the ISKCON society as a whole? I don‘t think so……
Such a corrupted institution, full of non-ethical (pseudo religious) folks, can never ever be a point of spiritual orientation or authority. I remember former times when the "normal" ISKCON members impressed us with their sincerity and devotional service. Those nice people seem to be mostly gone, and replaced with not very sincere people, especially at the top leadership level.
Now in Western Societies there are nothing but one out of a hundreds of spiritual groups, nothing special but trying to be more exotic than the others ……
Was that just an offspring of the 70‘s? Nothing left, totally unattractive for the spiritual seekers and the majority of Society. In former times there was 10,000 people coming to ISKCON in Russia, 10,00 in Brazil, 10,000 in USA, 10,000 in Europe, now they are lucky to have 35 people at the Sunday feasts at many of these temples.
What‘s left is politics, not spirituality, and scandals after scandals, over more scandals. The people most likely to be engaged in politics, money interests, and endless scandals have taken the top posts and the sincere are being run out.
This makes me wonder: How can it happen, that after years and years (20, 30, 40, 50) of a strict lifestyle and chanting -- there are so many severe aberrations? What’s wrong with the "spiritual practice" of ISKCON?
Didn‘t those folks understand anything? Especiallly, what are the ethical standards of their religion? Seems that 16 round+ does not guarantee any form of ethical or even moral mindset, following their own religious standards?
Was it a bunch of sentimental freaks searching to develop their Bhakti to Krshna in the 60‘s and 70‘s? The crucial years …. and they failed to understand their religion ... or protect their religion from the scandal mongers. Or worse, they went along with the scandal makers in order to get their social positions and associations.
What a mess!
If there will be no earnest try to "revitalize ISKCON," then there will be no hope for this wannabe "Catholic" organization. Why don‘t anyone of the remaining "pure devotes" (yes, there are enough left!) get rid of that bunch of pedophiles, misogynist, genital sucking, cat-f**king morons?! Why are people all going along with this ... if they have any idea about Krishna's religion?
Bhakti to Krshna? There are worldwide -- so many beautiful Kirtans and bhajans to Watch on YouTube! We no longer require their bogus institution. That‘s the spirit of Bhakti-Yoga, and ISKCON has for a long time no More exclusive rights
on bhakti, which they still seem to think they have!
So, why doesn't anyone wonder that such a large amount of Westerners are turning away from ISKCON -- after participating for many, many years -- and going over to bogus gurus, even mayavadins and voidists? By the way: they - especially the Buddhists - have a really vast Canon of holy scriptures! Maybe it is better to meditate on the void than meditate on scandalous fools who think they are as pure as God.
No Wonder …. after the death of the founder ... there are always turmoils and desintegration, and many misinterprettions of the teachings appear. So, my Personal conclusion is: concerning my way of cultivation of Krishna Bhakti is definitely outside of ISKCON, there is no hope for this economically and spiritual bankrupted organization.
Close them up, no one cares any more.
RIP ISKCON! Bye!
BUT: as a spiritual seeker after Reading all of your excellent PADA posts I ask myself: is there any legitimate future for the ISKCON society as a whole? I don‘t think so……
Such a corrupted institution, full of non-ethical (pseudo religious) folks, can never ever be a point of spiritual orientation or authority. I remember former times when the "normal" ISKCON members impressed us with their sincerity and devotional service. Those nice people seem to be mostly gone, and replaced with not very sincere people, especially at the top leadership level.
Now in Western Societies there are nothing but one out of a hundreds of spiritual groups, nothing special but trying to be more exotic than the others ……
Was that just an offspring of the 70‘s? Nothing left, totally unattractive for the spiritual seekers and the majority of Society. In former times there was 10,000 people coming to ISKCON in Russia, 10,00 in Brazil, 10,000 in USA, 10,000 in Europe, now they are lucky to have 35 people at the Sunday feasts at many of these temples.
What‘s left is politics, not spirituality, and scandals after scandals, over more scandals. The people most likely to be engaged in politics, money interests, and endless scandals have taken the top posts and the sincere are being run out.
This makes me wonder: How can it happen, that after years and years (20, 30, 40, 50) of a strict lifestyle and chanting -- there are so many severe aberrations? What’s wrong with the "spiritual practice" of ISKCON?
Didn‘t those folks understand anything? Especiallly, what are the ethical standards of their religion? Seems that 16 round+ does not guarantee any form of ethical or even moral mindset, following their own religious standards?
Was it a bunch of sentimental freaks searching to develop their Bhakti to Krshna in the 60‘s and 70‘s? The crucial years …. and they failed to understand their religion ... or protect their religion from the scandal mongers. Or worse, they went along with the scandal makers in order to get their social positions and associations.
What a mess!
If there will be no earnest try to "revitalize ISKCON," then there will be no hope for this wannabe "Catholic" organization. Why don‘t anyone of the remaining "pure devotes" (yes, there are enough left!) get rid of that bunch of pedophiles, misogynist, genital sucking, cat-f**king morons?! Why are people all going along with this ... if they have any idea about Krishna's religion?
Bhakti to Krshna? There are worldwide -- so many beautiful Kirtans and bhajans to Watch on YouTube! We no longer require their bogus institution. That‘s the spirit of Bhakti-Yoga, and ISKCON has for a long time no More exclusive rights
on bhakti, which they still seem to think they have!
So, why doesn't anyone wonder that such a large amount of Westerners are turning away from ISKCON -- after participating for many, many years -- and going over to bogus gurus, even mayavadins and voidists? By the way: they - especially the Buddhists - have a really vast Canon of holy scriptures! Maybe it is better to meditate on the void than meditate on scandalous fools who think they are as pure as God.
No Wonder …. after the death of the founder ... there are always turmoils and desintegration, and many misinterprettions of the teachings appear. So, my Personal conclusion is: concerning my way of cultivation of Krishna Bhakti is definitely outside of ISKCON, there is no hope for this economically and spiritual bankrupted organization.
Close them up, no one cares any more.
RIP ISKCON! Bye!
[PADA: Yep, it has become a mundane Hindu congregation business, and an illicit sex with men, women, children and cats guru parampara. Most of our readers agree. ys pd]
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