Sunday, August 7, 2022

Diabolical ISKCON SABHA?




JJ: I keep finding more examples of ex-children who were abused, and their parents are sometimes big devotees or leaders, or at least they are Srila Prabhupada direct disciples who should have known better. It looks like almost none of them ever reported the abuses to the authorities, or alerted other parents, etc. They know there is a molesting problem spreading all over, they might even know their OWN kids were molested, or they know of other kids who were molested, but they go on supporting the leaders ... as if nothing is wrong.

It just seems like members of the big leadership GBC / ISKCON SABHA groups and other big important leaders ... or senior people ... in a number of cases also had their OWN children suffer abuses, and yet ... instead of demanding that the leaders responsible for the abuse program be removed, they are still promoting the same leaders of the whole program, like Radhanath, Hrdayananda, Jayapataka, or even  abusers like Lokanath.

I find that baffling. They did not say anything at the time of the abuse, and they never said anything up to now. It looks like a conspiracy of silence. Worse, some of the children of these leaders committed suicide, or they died prematurely from related trauma. Or they just ended up hating Krishna, because they feel like devotee parents are the worst parents anywhere. And no one notices ... this is a problem? And if we bring it up ... we get the standard vulture death glares.  

GSD: I also still don't understand ... how can ISKCON leaders whose children were abused be so unconcerned about child protection.

PADA: Yep, a number of leaders had their own children abused, sometimes all of their children were abused. Yet! Hardly none of that was ever reported to the authorities, or reported to other parents so they could be on guard. Meanwhile, these "senior people" were oftentimes banning me, blocking me, removing me from their forums, having their gang members threatening violence to the little teeny woman who was running my internet provider in 1996 (as happened), if not sending their gangsters to chase me, and generally doing everything possible in stopping me from protesting, which would have saved other kids from getting sucked into their process. 

Being unconcerned would have been a huge blessing, they were often actively and vociferously opposing. Unconcerned is neutral, opposing is actively defending. 

MD: People should contact the SABHA group to complain about Lokanath. This is Sabha contact page. Members of this group could write them to express our concerns.


And these are the members. If you know any of them personally you may write them too.


BW: I only know two of the SABHA members personally though obviously I’ve seen a few more over the years growing up in the movement. Rukmini DD who’s child Gauravani was abused in Gurukula, and Nrsimhananda Das who’s step son took his own life after Gurukula. I couldn’t fathom them not taking a hard stance against a rubber stamp of the GBC’s decision in favor of dismissal.

PADA: Nrsinghananda was one of the people who vigorously, vehemently, and almost violently opposed me all along -- when I was bringing up these issues, such as the molesting issue. OK lets face it, he hated the people who exposed the molesting, and he has subsequently never apologized or even acknowledged the issue to me. 

He is good friends with guys like -- the ISKCON lawyer -- who defended the regime, and his lawyer friend's daughter died of a drug overdose, after living a life of suffering -- complaining for one thing -- that her dad was making it impossible for her to make friends with her peers because her dad defends the molester regime. 

I hate to say this is a sort of club, or conspiracy, but that is what it looks like -- as some victims told me they think it is some sort of diabolical secret society. 

Another big devotee from New Vrndavan had a son. And the son told his dad he felt like he had no place to live in his own religion, and he felt there was no use in living anymore. The dad said, "Fine, if you want to be gone from here, take one of my guns." And the kid took the gun and blew his brains out under a bridge near San Francisco. That "big devotee" was always calling me names and he was upset with my expose of the regime. He was one of the "enforcers," and he just never understood the problems he was causing for others, even his own kids.

There are people who tell me this is a diabolocal Satanic child sacrifice cult, ok how did they get that idea? 

ys pd

******** Dasi: Feeling extraordinarily grateful to get to know ****** devi, who is so beautifully aligned with the stated purposes of our devotee Community. As a professional woman in the teaching field, she understands the necessity of Zero Tolerance towards sex offenders. 

It's such a relief to be in the company of such a down to Earth, caring and warm personality. Especially after all the madness experienced in other much larger bhakti organisations where unrepentant child molesters give classes, lead kirtans and are even promoted as bonafide "good as God" gurus and acaryas.

PADA: I remember when one of these SABHA people saw me at a temple many years ago and he put his face about three inches from mine and he said to me, "You are not one of those trouble makers are you"? Maximum intimidation. Acting like he was physically threatening violence. 

Of course, he already knew who I am. In other words, anyone who has objected to the child molesting project and other similar problems is "making trouble" self-evidently. Then, how did you guess, same guy complained after we helped the child molesting lawsuit. "Why didn't he take it to the leaders before going public"? Ummm, because when you confronted me -- you showed me -- I either go public, or face severe intimidation -- or worse. 

Did If forget to mention they blocked my e-mails, and I got a computer form message back "your messages are not available on our server." Hee hee, so don't be a trouble maker, and don't complain about the abuse of the citizens, then they are all shocked and surprised when they get sued? 

The SABHA folks have never apologized to me either, or even bothered to communicate in any way, shape or form, which means we have been correct all along, they are not interested in our concerns. I get hundreds of letters from unsatisfied customers to my blog all the time, and I post a lot of them on my blog every year, year after year, and none of the SABHA folks ever asks me about any of this. ys pd

Gopal Krishna Swami Expose (With Russian Translations) VIDEO

[PADA: Evidently, a big popular Russian TV show news lady was recently saying that the parents of children who are using "VPN" -- to see the main portions of the internet without Russian government restrictions -- should be arrested. It looks like they are really concerned that people will get outside information about what is happening in the rest of the world. 

Hee hee, just like ISKCON. They tell their people to not go on the internet, oh oh, they might find PADA! These techniques only work in the short term, and then people get fed up, or they find out the real news by other means. 

Gopal Krishna swami! Wait, wasn't Kadamba kanana swami shot there when he tried to clean up the mess going on in Gopal's zone? And aren't some of the Brijabasis totally fried with the pedophile samadhi there, but they are afraid of the regime, so they cannot protest in public? Yep Mr. Gopal, one of the people bringing evil into ISKCON all along. 

In any case, more people are waking up here, there and everywhere. These bogus fraud messiahs are having less and less "true believers" every day, and more who believe what we believe, these guys are servants of Beelzebub and not God. 

Of course, as soon as the ISKCON GBC / SABHA / ICC Bureau see a nice pedophile guru lineage regime leader, they fall off their chairs and offer their obeisances. They think they have found Jesus re-incarnated! And us "bogus mlecchas" are the fools and bad guys, because we want to offer obeisance to the real and actual Jesus category pure persons.

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Saturday, August 6, 2022

ISKCON -- No Longer Using "ISKCON"? (JMD)

JMD: It looks to me like more and more "ISKCON" projects are not really ISKCON. They look like ISKCON Hare Krishnas, but are being managed under another legal name ... not ISKCON's. And that is because? 

More people are afraid of being legally connected to the name of ISKCON ... which has been sued for fraud, child abuse, and other issues. And let us not forget ALL the bad PR media. Or else ... they don't want to have to answer to the ISKCON managers, so they go off on their own.

Now more devotees are making numbers of "spin-offs" ... and it is increasing ... they almost look like they are ISKCON, but they are not. Itself shows the failure of ISKCON's leaders. People are afraid to use the title of ISKCON ... because of the legal jeopardy and really bad name the leaders gave ISKCON. Or they just don't want to make a center where the GBC will establish a bogus guru.

Now the GBC and India ICC are making all sorts of "rules and laws for ISKCON," but there is hardly anyone left in ISKCON anymore. No one cares about ISKCON's laws anymore ... if they are not even in ISKCON.

Notice ... in Atlanta there is the ISKCON temple, which is not ISKCON:  

 About-Us (atlantaharekrishnas.com)

The Atlanta Hare Krishnas is run by Jayapataka and Devamrita? And Devamrita has his lofts program, also not ISKCON.

And Bhakti Vikas swami (being criticized by some for hi-jacking a few ISKCON people to make his program) which is also not ISKCON:

https://www.thekrishnalife.com/

If BVKS is allegedly hijacking a few people from, or is competing with, the Atlanta Hare Krishnas program, then he is not actually taking anyone from ISKCON? They are not ISKCON.

Caru Dasa has his Utah program, also not ISKCON. 

Harivilas has his Seattle program, also not ISKCON. 

Texas Krishnas are not ISKCON.

Romapada and New York Temple, also not ISKCON.

Satsvarupa's many spin offs like Gita Nagari Press, also not ISKCON. 

Alachua has dozens of charity name spin-offs, not ISKCON.

Radhanath's Chowpatty ... not ISKCON.

Sudhir Krishna swami ... not ISKCON.

Pancadravida swami ... not ISKCON.

Paramadvaiti swami ... not ISKCON.

Jagat guru / BG Narasingha swami ... not ISKCON.

Jnana das / swami ... not ISKCON.

Guru Kripa ... not ISKCON.

Bhakta das ... not ISKCON.

Food For Life ... some of them complaining of being lumped in with ISKCON.

India Heritage Foundation ... told not to use the name of ISKCON, or else! So they called themselves with another title.

Tripurari's program ... not ISKCON.

And Hrdayananda has his separate program, Krishna West, also not ISKCON. Of course ... also many Sridhar and Narayan maharaja spin offs as well.

And etc.!!!

It looks to me like? ISKCON has basically been killed off by horrible management, and now it is just being chopped up further into little pieces, and is being made into hundreds of little separated spin off programs ... that are simply parasites ... siphoning off of the name ISKCON, using the benefit of being connected to Prabhupada and ISKCON, but not giving any help to the actual ISKCON. 

Actually they are not even being part of ISKCON. This is also what happened in the Gaudiya Matha. Different leaders ran off and started their own programs and dismantled the main mission. 

I hate to be so graphic but ... it looks like they killed off the ISKCON cow and now they are chopping up little pieces to exploit for themselves? I am not sure how else to look at this? Srila Prabhupada would not be pleased with all this exploiting spin off program ... that I could say for sure. They killed it ... now they are chopping it up and using the pieces for themselves. 

I also understand that I myself could not use the name of ISKCON ... because their few hold out legal eagles on their team would sue me. In short, they want to make sure no one -- gives ISKCON a good name. And that ISKCON just gets more and more dismantled into tiny spun away pieces .... until nothing is left. JMD

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PADA: Yep, Srila Prabhupada's original ISKCON of San Francisco is called "New Jagannath Puri." And the local Narayan Maharaja folks have hi-jacked the ISKCON title. Now they are New Jagannath Puri! 

Of course -- since Narayan Maharaja has been: one the biggest supporters of Tamal's child molesting messiah's program; hanging out with Tamal in Texas; yelling and spitting at our people when they challenged Tamal; NM is one of the people co-responsible for all the molesting -- and then ISKCON being sued and dismantled. So NM helps Tamal create a mass child molesting program in ISKCON, direct or indirect helps have ISKCON sued for $400,000,000, then his people hi-jack the ISKCON people and their titles. 

As soon as we challenged Narayan Maharaja's / Tamal's pedophile guru program, he said we are "ritvik poison" -- trying to get us killed for objecting to his mass child molesting project. Yep JMD, they killed the cow and now they are chopping off pieces to exploit. I think you are on to something here!

Did I forget to mention, one of the NM gurus was allegedly having sex with more than one lady? And another Bhakti Bandhav NM guru is supposedly interested in young men and boys, and thus another NM guru had to expose him. So they have the same illicit sex acharya's program that they helped launch in ISKCON. And NM was helping Satsvarupa write their "Guru Reform Notebook," because acharyas often engage in illicit sex with men, women and children -- and then need "reform." 

The good news? Lord Yamaraja told Narayan Maharaja, "We were just waiting for you to get here, since we really wanted to get our hands on you, the chief cheer leader of the pedophile messiah's project. Sorry, now you won't be able to spread the glories of your illicit sex with men, women and children acharyas program anymore, since we are going to send you to the place where your fellow pedophile messiah lover's club members have gone to. 

"Did we forget to mention? Your 'dear Tamal tree of Radha' was poisoning a pure devotee, and you are going to have to suffer the karma of being the chief hand maiden assistant of Judas, which really does not have much worse karma from any other activity. Even cow killers are like saints compared to pure devotee poisoners and their hand maiden assisting accomplices, OK, like you." ys pd  


ys pd 

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krishna1008: Narayan Maharaja: Save the Cows / Kill the Vaishnavas?


Living Prabhupada PT.3 (Surya Narayan Dasa)

Living Prabhupada, Part Three.

By Surya Narayana das - A Blunt Crayon Production.

“As for your next question, can only a few pure devotees deliver others[: A]nyone, if he is a pure devotee he can deliver others, he can become spiritual master. But unless he['s] on that platform he should not attempt it. Then both of them will to go to hell, like blind men leading the blind.”

(Letter: Tusta Krsna 14th December 1972).

We continue with the debate in LA over Srila Prabhupada’s position vs that of the voted-in-guru. Let’s see if the senior Iskcon devotees can enlighten us further.

Manavata Prabhu: “I find it to be a deviation that we don’t do things that we did when Prabhupada was on the planet, and that now we don’t need to do that because we think Prabhupada’s not physically present. We see simply by historical example that practically all the spiritual masters who, you know, became spiritual masters after Srila Prabhupada, practically all of them fell down. So it just seems to be obvious to me that we wouldn’t want to not do something we did when Prabhupada was here. Prabhupada is the spiritual master of everyone.”

It’s true that Srila Prabhupada acted as the spiritual master of everyone, initiating the sincere follower into spiritual life through divya-jnana, transcendental knowledge, and even those initiates who never physically met their guru were accepted as his disciples.

Paramananda: We’re always feeling your presence very strongly, Srila Prabhupada, simply by your teachings and your instructions.

Srila Prabhupada: Thank you. That is the real presence. Physical presence is not important.

(SP Room Conversation, Vrndavana, 6/10/77).

Manavata Prabhu: “Although Srila Prabhupada may not be one’s diksa-guru, he is the siksa-guru for the whole movement.”

On the one hand, Manavata Prabhu appeals against the deviations that have seen a shift away from how things were done, but on the other hand he appears willing to accept what I would say is the main, heavy deviation: the stripping of Srila Prabhupada’s God-given right to initiate disciples via empowered representatives. Something HDG was doing for many years, and something he never ordered stopped.

“The sometimes devious maneuverings of individual GBC men, and the GBC body as a whole to keep the movement, their zones and their profiles in order are difficult to justify philosophically, to say the least.”

(Suhotra Swami, letter to Sesa das, Sept 4th, 1985).

Manavata Prabhu backs his understanding that it was indeed a deviation, saying: “...practically all the spiritual masters who became spiritual masters after Srila Prabhupada… practically all of them fell down.”

He’s correctly judging the process by its result, and the GBC back him on this one, calling it the ‘Zonal Acarya deviation’ in their 1999 Resolutions.

However, the depth to which the Zonal mentality remains coursing through the veins of our society’s power base is as evident today as it was in the late 70s and throughout the 80s.

“It was only with a mighty unified effort of the G.B.C that we defeated envious elements in our society who in 1978 tried to destroy the faith in guru parampara.”

(A Modest Proposal For Purifying ISKCON, by Satasvarupa das Goswami, 1987)

Satsvarupa twists the logic, accusing godbrothers/sisters who called out the GBC for voting Srila Prabhupada into oblivion of wrongdoing. With tabloid style muckraking, he brands the Vaishnavas envious and out to destroy faith in the parampara and trumpets how his little gang's heroic, mighty unified effort was able to defeat the enemy. SDG then gives notice to others who might challenge, reminding them, “pride cometh before the fall.” Wow, did they end up with egg on their faces!

By exaggerating and falsifying their spiritual credentials (a warped sort of spiritual Munchausen syndrome), the Eleven forced themselves upon the innocent followers who had come to Srila Prabhupada for pure shelter and guidance. A mundane political power grab within a spiritual society. Base and ugly, but the objective was achieved.

With the benefit of hindsight, Satsvarupa’s letter is seen as petty, cruel, and filled with deceit, ad hominem attacks, and more than a few straw-men chasing around in his mind. He’s more recently written trying to distance himself from it all, saying that he was manipulated and bullied by others to say and do, thus throwing his co-conspirators under the bus.

The big Eleven tried to justify their level of Divine worship by comparing themselves to Prabhupada. SDG shuts down the dissidents by saying, ‘How dare you? Prabhupada set this standard of worship, so you’re criticising/blaspheming Prabhupada by rejecting it.’ The ultimate guilt trip. Of course, they forgot one little thing: Srila Prabhupada was worthy of receiving said worship due to his being a pure devotee of Krishna. 

That was shown in his humility despite his position. Their charade minimised and insulted HDG, insinuating his spiritual status was easy to obtain. Stop smoking, chant on the beads for a few years, carry the stick, piece of cake: pure devotee! SDG’s Lilamrta is awash with such gonzo journalism penned by a conditioned soul seemingly contaminated and bewildered by a collective sense of false prestige and their need to drag the spiritual master down to their level.

Their claim was as absurd as a cobbler dragging a wooden throne into the town square and demanding worship equal to the recently departed king. The other villagers would surely look on in wonder. To many of the Iskcon villagers, these men were simply phantasmagorists childishly trying to catch the moon.

Sadly, all these years on and the current mood/response toward those who might question the legitimacy and origins of our current guru system has a similar accusatory, retaliatory flavour. Open discussion on the subject is still crushed, North Korean style. So really not much has changed. They still brand devotees as envious and have their action plan, a rewrite of the 87 ‘Proposal For Purifying ISKCON,’ to rid the movement of those dangerous, Prabhupada-centric elements who dare believe Srila Prabhupada could be enough and then some.

“The GBC Body hereby makes known its STRONG DETERMINATION to ENFORCE ISKCON law in the matter of ritvikism.”

(GBC Resolutions 2000 - emphasis mine).

I find it really interesting how, in relation to the monumental changing of Prabhupada’s status from diksa to siksa, the otherwise well-spoken Manavata Prabhu appears not only happy to let that change slide, but openly reinforces this stuff! 

But the reality is, the very success of the Zonal takeover hinged entirely on that all important ‘change’ that saw HDG unceremoniously dethroned. Without them altering the founder’s position there was no Zonal Acarya guru system. It was the original lie from which all other lies, changes, deviations, and gurus were born. It is the change that changed everything!

“The Governing Body Commission, being weakened due to the Zonal Acarya deviation, failed to correct these errors to the detriment of many ISKCON members.”

(GBC Resolution 1999).

As will be demonstrated in the outro quote from Bhakti Caru Swami, we sometimes wonder if these senior devotees think deeply about what it is they’re saying.

Many years ago, I cut my teeth as a wire worker before moving on to become a welder / metal fabricator. In my role as wire worker, I’d calibrate the complex wire straightener and wire former machinery to do large runs, 10,000 - 20,000 units of sometimes quite complex, exacting configurations. During these runs, I’d constantly be checking the variables as just a slight variation would see me wheeling out a big bin of useless wiggly thingies by day's end.

If I detected even a slight change, I wouldn’t just keep cranking out more of the same in the hope that it would right itself, neither would I try to alter the client's design requirements to fit my now sub-standard product. I couldn’t justify the flawed units simply by telling my foreman, “Well, *some* of them aren’t defective.” No, I would shut everything down and carefully go back to the start and trace out what had changed, find the genesis of the problem, and re-calibrate the machinery back to the specs that had produced the original, correct result. I see no reason why these commonsense principles cannot be applied to spiritual life.

Next we hear from Svavasa Prabhu who is handed the microphone as the senior Prabhupada disciples continue the sharing circle, discussing the controversial proposed ‘Prabhupada-less, voted-in-gurus only’ mangal aratis.

Svavasa Prabhu: “I agree with Manavata Prabhu. We didn’t know anything about nothing before Srila Prabhupada came. When Prabhupada introduced this song he specifically introduced it for himself.

“So here you have five or six or seven disciples who were initiated by a regular guru in Iskcon, and they’re chanting to their spiritual master, but then he’s not there any more (blooped), then who are they chanting to? In other words, there have been many regular gurus that have blooped from Krishna consciousness, so who do they [the disciples of the blooped guru] chant that prayer to?”

This is a really important question, and we thank these thoughtful devotees for having the courage to broach what we know is a very controversial and sometimes dangerous topic within the Hare Krishna movement. GBC threats and muzzling dates back to the inauspicious birth of the Zonal creature, so talks like this are still quite rare.

“So who do they [the disciples of the blooped guru] chant that prayer to?”

Vijaya Prabhu, giving the Bhagavatam class replies emphatically,

“Obviously, if they’ve blooped, they chant to Prabhupada!”

Svavasa Prabhu: “Okay, so that’s why the GBC want all of us to chant to Srila Prabhupada because of that situation happening. He is the Acarya. When they're chanting the prayers to Srila Prabhupada, it’s *to* Srila Prabhupada as far as I understand. I can research that a little more.”

Vijaya Prabhu: “We should do some investigation and find out.”

At this point in the exchange it becomes evident these senior Prabhupada disciples who’ve been in the movement for perhaps the majority of their lives, and dealing with the voted-in-guru issue for four decades or more, don’t really know what they're talking about. There’s much indecision and a lack of clear leadership around the rules, laws, and competing opinions being bandied about by powers that be. There’s much tippy-toeing around the elephant in the room, and no one can say for sure where the Founder-Acarya fits into the scheme of things!

Svavasa Prabhu: “The point being yes, your guru could bloop, and if he’s blooped, then what do you do?”

Vijaya Prabhu: “Go to Srila Prabhupada.”

Svavasa Prabhu: (in agreement, and almost in unison) “Go to Prabhupada!”

Vijaya Prabhu: “Of course!”

So both men clearly believe that when your voted-in-guru bloops, “you go to Prabhupada.” This naturally raises the same question we had for Sura Prabhu who said a very similar thing: and so we ask again, what exactly does, “go to Prabhupada” look like to you guys?

We hear disciples of blooped gurus being told to begin their day singing samsara davanala to Prabhupada.

"By the mercy of the spiritual master, one receives the benediction of Krsna. Without the grace of the spiritual master, one cannot make any advancement."

Are these senior, respected Prabhus saying we should just go to Prabhupada and sing the prayers as a kind of default gesture? Or are they saying sing the prayers, and believe with full conviction and faith that you’re receiving benediction from Srila Prabhupada, and with the benediction of such a spiritual master, you *will* make spiritual advancement?

I feel the answer to this question is really important, and perhaps these senior men need to get clear on what exactly it is they’re saying. Just as they may feel their own spiritual life is of importance, similarly others' spiritual lives are of equal value. Not that those who didn’t meet Prabhupada are from a lower caste and so it doesn’t really matter how it all pans out for them.

Things are further confused if my guru has blooped because then what JAS demands isn’t applicable or even possible. I can only “Jai Prabhupada,” I have no one else to “Jai.” And neither can others break my meditation on my voted-in-guru with their “Jais” because my Gurudeva is long since blooped, and I definitely won’t be meditating on where he’s at these days. Actually JAS is breaking my meditation by telling me it’s not the Prabhupada song after the GBC and the senior Prabhus told me to ‘go to Prabhupada!’ So the disciples of blooped gurus in Iskcon, according to JAS, can’t sing the song to anyone! Just another bamboozling side-effect of unqualified men messing with Prabhupada’s perfect system.

Hypothetical: “I may feel encouraged by you all senior men telling me to go to Prabhupada when my guru bloops, but I’m also a little concerned that your pity will turn to rage if you decide I’ve gone too far to Prabhupada, and you’ll then brand me a filthy Ritvik - enemy number one! Don’t devotees claiming they can ‘go to Prabhupada’ get burned at the Iskcon stake of heretics and aparadhis?”

Conclusion: If it’s obvious to go to Prabhupada after your guru bloops, then why not go before? Or better still, why not avoid the blooping gurus altogether? Should we allow ourselves to get fleeced on the way to HDG and what does he say about allowing oneself to be cheated?

As if there’s not already enough tapasya in this life, it seems kind of nuts to go out of our way to do it hard, veering off on some dusty back road filled with the danger of uncertainty, saffron bandits and stolen devotion. If they’re going to send people to Prabhupada anyway, better do it now than wait till after their broken.

“According to sastra, the duty of the guru is to take the disciple back home, back to Godhead. If he is unable to do so and instead hinders the disciple in going back to Godhead, he should not be a guru.”

(Srila Prabhupada SB 8.20.1 purport).

The blooped guru not only commits a disloyal act by abandoning those he lured in with a false spiritual contract, but he also breaks the sacred promise he made to his own spiritual master, the yajna, and the Lord. In this way, the once bright-faced follower filled with innocent enthusiasm is seen descending in a blazing wreckage of spiritual-suicide, having vainly flown too close to the sun. Maybe His Divine Grace was protecting us from ourselves when he didn’t name a successor?

It’s really difficult to believe this was Srila Prabhupada’s master plan, his vision for the future of Iskcon; a society filled with kanistha, used-car, buyer beware gurus, destroyed faith, and revolving temple doors.

Bhakti Caru Swami: “Nevertheless, after Srila Prabhupada’s disappearance, we in Iskcon also MADE A SIMILAR MISTAKE, THINKING that Srila Prabhupada had appointed 11 successors. We also plunged in to the same syndrome of appointing spiritual heads of the institution PRESUMING that after Srila Prabhupada’s disappearance THEY INHERITED Iskcon.”

“In 1987, about 10 years after Srila Prabhupada’s disappearance, this mistake was addressed by concerned leading devotees of Iskcon, BUT WAS NOT FULLY CORRECTED. Just by ADDING MORE GURUS and allowing them to initiate wherever they could attract disciples, THAT MISTAKE WAS ONLY DILUTED TO SOME EXTENT BUT WAS NOT REALLY CORRECTED.”

(BCS, published on July 12th, 2009 on the GBC-funded dandavats website. Emphasis mine.)

Footnote: Actually, when you add more of a thing to a thing, it doesn’t dilute the concentration, rather it expands and increases the original thing, simply making it more voluminous. So Maharaja’s synopsis is incorrect in this regard.

And if that ‘thing’ is a mistake, then adding more mistakes simply makes it a bigger mistake.

A real life example of this ‘mistake expansion’ can be found in my own spiritual journey and that of my contemporaries. We joined soon after the ‘pure acarya’ for our zone had fallen, and yet despite this person no longer operating here, many went on to be cheated by gurus who had been added to the mistake! Had the mistake been contained to just those Eleven then that would never have happened.

A blooped guru is a blooped guru, and the damage done to disciples' lives is ‘felt at full strength’ regardless of honorific titles or not. Diminution requires adding something different to a solution, not more of the same. Guru Reform is simply more of the same, and therefore reform in name only… a slick marketing campaign that simply rebranded the same unlicensed product. Old wine in new bottles. The Zonal system was never abandoned or dismantled, rather it was just being added to while the big seats were being shuffled out.

Ultimately, throwing more mistakes at the mistake simply spread the disease and infected more people. To fully eradicate a deeply inherent mistake may require draining the swamp!

“He [Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Goswami Maharaja] never recommended anyone to be acharya of the Gaudiya Math…. If Guru Maharaja could have seen someone who was qualified at that time to be acharya, he would have mentioned. Because on the night before he passed away he talked of so many things, but never mentioned an acharya. Therefore we may not commit the same mistake in our ISKCON camp.” (Srila Prabhupada, letter to Rupanuga, April 28, 1974)


Friday, August 5, 2022

Jagannatha Misra Departs / SP's Yamaraja warning



In Memoriam HG JAGANNATHA MISRA DASA

Written by Krishna Smaranam Dasa

Hare Krishna, all glories to Srila Prabhupada.

It is unfortunate that I have to write this message about my close friend’s departure, Jagannatha Dasa (Micheal James Bulsa). Jagannatha Dasa was always very kind to my family and I. Our friendship grew when he was living in Kentucky because he had limited association. Him and I would talk every single day on the phone. 

At last he finally came to Alachua to live in the devotee community. In this way, we would physically associate since I also live in Alachua. He came to my house program, spent two nights, and gave me an exquisite Srila Prabhupada painting that was done by Puskar Das. He will always be remembered as a loyal friend, hardworking person, and an very jubilant devotee. It is truly unfortunate that he left early.

Sincerely,

Krishna Smaranam Dasa.

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DD: I believe he took his own life because ... he was experiencing health issues and he did not think he would get the support he would need. And I do not believe the community was ready and able to help him with his issues. 

When other people in the area are sick or dying, and they go to the hospital, they often need to make a fundme to collect money for their own care. That is a common story. There is no organized care for them.

Even some of the local karmis told me ... it looks like ... when the Krishna's are sick and dying ... they and their family have to fend for themselves. It looks like there is neglect for the sick and the dying elders. Even ordinary people see this.

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Question: What Happens to Those Who in Authority (Guardians) Neglect the Elderly and Helpless Devotees of ISKCON??..........

Srila Prabhupada: The defenseless creatures, according to Manu-samhita, are the cows, brahmanas, women, children and old men. Of these five, the brahmanas and cows are especially mentioned in this verse because the Lord is always anxious about the benefit of the brahmanas and the cows and is prayed to in this way. 

The Lord especially instructs, therefore, that no one should be envious of these five, especially the cows and brahmanas. Those who are helpless must be taken care of by their respective guardians, otherwise the guardians will be subjected to the punishment of Yamaraja, who is appointed by the Lord to supervise the activities of sinful living creatures. >>> Ref. VedaBase => SB 3.16.10

[PADA: Pretty clear. The guardians of ISKCON must take care of the citizens, or face severe punishment from Yamaraja. What happens when the ISKCON "guardians" are orchestrating banning, beating, molesting, suing and killing the Vaishnavas -- and they are only "taking care" of the few elites and not the mass of rank and file citizens -- even when they are sick and dying? OK Yamaraja is going to get them into his realm, to punish them severely, that is what Srila Prabhupada says herein. 

Many people think I am being too heavy, well maybe, but I am just repeating these warnings. OK! They are sinful living beings, and they will be punished. For sure. For certain. Placing their dead corpses in a samadhi will not save their souls from going to Yamaraja either. If anything, that will make their punishment worse for polluting the dham. 

Meanwhile, we wish Jagannath all the best. God speed spirit soul! 

ys pd] 

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Enjoy your bogus guru position as much as you can now.
Because later ... you'll have to pay it all back.
With compound interest.



JD: Hardly anyone keeps track of all the 
lost ISKCON souls --
the GBC fried out or jettisoned out of ISKCON.
Why not?
It would be something like 97%.
They cannot allow that statistic to be well known.
Bad for recruiting fresh victims.
Parasites always need fresh victims to survive.

Thursday, August 4, 2022

STOP! Lokanath Witch Hunt / Mayesvara Re-writes History

[PADA: Oh oh, incoming fire. Take cover!] 

***** DASI: Frankly, I’m disgusted by this Lokanth swami witch hunt. They very cleverly use kind words to thrust a spear into their godbrother. There are real victims of rape, child abuse, neglect, physical violence, and all of you equating something like this (touching a young girl) which could be considered something subtle in the mind, it disgusts me. 

When will you be satisfied, when you have destroyed Srila Prabhupada’s movement? When LS kills himself, would that be your end goal? You were not there. None of us were there. We have only the words of a nondevotee who is hell bent on destroying Srila Prabhupadas movement. 

Where is compassion and love amongst vaisnavas? Where is the spirit of forgiveness, cooperation, of protecting ISKCON from such ugly pr? It is like mass hysteria has taken over. You would destroy so much and so many people rather than accept the decision of those in charge. Mob rule will take us over the cliff.

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PADA: Lokanath swami is merely one of the leaders of the whole regime, and we had to have the whole regime sued for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse. He is simply a participating enabler and defender of the whole regime. And he is in a post of power and authority over said regime, which means he is sustaining and empowering their program of -- worship of illicit sex with men, women and children acharyas, a process which famously bans, beats, molests, sues and kills vaishnavas. 

His individual case is not the only one, but his is a current cause celebre because it is another unresolved case. His unresolved case simply represents many thousands of other abuse cases that have not been resolved to everyone's satisfaction either. 

When we were pointing all this out in 1979, we were banned from ISKCON. We got zero mercy from the regime, then came the threats of violence, chasing with baseball bats, murders of my associates etc. -- and they never even apologized to us for having me banned, forcing me to have them sued, having me chased and hunted, murdering my friends etc. in all this time. 

They banned, beat, molested, sued and even killed Vaishnavas -- wholesale basis, and now all of a sudden they are worried about bad PR at this late stage? Why weren't they worried about bad press media way back when these folks like Lokanath helped establish their 1978 policy of worshiping deviants as messiahs, and banning, beating, suing and assassinating those who disagree? 

Their enabling and covering up for the molesting regime is why all this happened from square one. Then his victim had to write me to publish her story, because they would not help her, and they still don't. And if the police were not doing undercover surveillance on me, I would not be here to tell the story. ys pd

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Bhakti Vikas swami says, attachment to the people who bury pedophiles in samadhi in the dham is the goal of life? Ummm, nope. Hee hee. People who worship pedophiles in samadhis are going to the lower planets of pedophile's worshipers, and not back to Godhead. I do however admire BVKS's honesty, "I love to associate with pedophile pooja in the dham program's leaders." Great, saves Yamaraja the trouble of having to ask about this, "we have your admission in hand." ys pd


Mayesvara das

Unfortunately, your series of books (Killing for Krishna etc. and PADA writings etc.) are great hits with the ISKCON-Bashers, many of which are not emotionally stable and love to speculate, exaggerate, and find the worst in everyone and everything. It's great for sales, but I would not want that type of association pouring into my consciousness every day!

The real mess in New Vrindaban was Keith Ham himself. He had been tossed out of ISKCON by Srila Prabhupada in the early days and was too arrogant to get along with anyone... but he found a safe haven in New Vrindaban where he exploited everyone. I took my parents to meet him in 1982 and although they generally liked meeting devotees and are very polite, mode-of-goodness types... when I inquired from my mother about the impression she got from Keith, she reluctantly shared how she was put off by him. 

In her own more elegant words, she basically said he was "Creepy". He was just too self-absorbed and spoke down about everyone, something the ISKCON-Bashers are also fixated on. 

The New Vrindaban saga is a testimony on what NOT to do... but it did not speak for the rest of ISKCON. Circa 1987 Keith's madness was so eccentric ISKCON cut all ties with his crowns, guard dog, monk robes, child fondling and empire of illegal dealings etc. It was not until years later after he was dead and gone the hazmat crew could go in and clean out the 20-year stench.

[PADA: Ummm, nope. ISKCON was glorifying Kirtanananda as a pure acharya in all of its 1980s publications like -- Back to Godhead, ISKCON World Review, numerous Satsvarupa writings, many GBC reports, even Hrdayananda's Bhagavatam glorifies "Srila Kirtanananda Bhaktipada." Sorry KS has been propped up all over ISKCON as a pure devotee, Krishna's successor etc., and not just in an isolated location in West Virginia. 

The NV saga does speak for the whole of ISKCON, because the whole society was promoting him as the acharya and we were not allowed to protest anywhere in that society, rather we were attacked all over that society for criticizing "Srila Bhaktipada." And Ramesvara's people were aiding the NV hit men when they came there to get Sulochana, this has been a coordinated regime to promote KS. 

Your mom found him to be "creepy" because she had more highly elevated consciousness than almost all of the ISKCON society at the time. But the GBC was not saying he is creepy, rather they were saying he is a pure devotee, and we all have to accept him as an acharya, or be banned, or be beaten, or worse.

And after the so-called "fall of New Vrndavana," most of the NV top leaders like Kuladri, Umapati, Radhanath, Devamrita etc. then became the next wave of leaders for ISKCON. And then Gopal Krishna swami and Radhanath had Kirtanananda's dead carcass buried in samadhi in the dham, where he is CURRENTLY being worshiped in SAMADHI as a pure acharya -- right there and right now. 

They did not get rid of the stench, rather they are promoting him all along since 1978, and they still are now. And they are still promoting his top leaders now, which they did all along since 1978. Nothing has changed. And you are covering up for them all along, and you still are now, which means you have not changed. ys pd]    


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Swami BG Narasimha admits, Sridhar Maharaja is making jackals into acharyas. We need to promote Sridhar, so we can make more and more jackals into acharyas? I am not getting it yet? Why do we want jackals to be worshiped as Krishna's successor acharyas? ys pd 







Wednesday, August 3, 2022

Response to Globebusters / Flat Earth Society / VIDEO

PADA: Over the years different devotees have sent me essays or videos of different things they wanted me to promote. OK maybe, if it looks like it makes sense, and it is helpful in some manner. Videos of Sridhar and Narayan Maharajas? Ummm nope.

And for the Alex Jones folks who sent me all sorts of his videos, and they are upset I am not promoting him, well it looks like he is currently in trouble for making up fake news and creating mayhem for ordinary citizens, then declaring himself bankrupted to avoid paying his victims. Oh oh, like ISKCON leaders have done? 

Anyway! There are a few flat earth devotees out there who are astonished that I cannot agree with them that the earth is flat. OK but so far the videos they sent me have the same self-evident holes in their theory -- that other people are finding. OK like this guy has found. If there is a good explanation for all these holes, I am not seeing it? Sorry! ys pd 

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Yasoda Dasi Writes "Srila Bhaktipada" (1985)

[PADA: Sample of the chaos induced by the GBC when they declared conditioned souls to be pure acharyas. Of course, they are still doing that by advertising that various GBC are diksha guru acharyas etc. So many lives have had to be destroyed -- just so a few elites could carve out the main bulk of ISKCON's assets for their personal guru fiefdoms and franchises. 

Very sad for the victims, and of course these leaders will eventually reap some very heavy karma for orchestrating all this cheating. 1985 -- it is the same year Sulochana was getting geared up to come after these guys. After Bhavananda fell down, then they brought to Australia the New Vrndavana clowns like Devamtrita and Radhanath, and of course Prabhavishnu, Ramai etc. More trouble in River City. 

Notice that she mentions the GBC's technique of using fear, intimidation, intentionally confusing people, having people exiled for doubting -- and so on. In other words, modes of ignorance tactics are used by vicious goondas to exploit and manipulate the innocent. Did I forget to mention, same techniques are basically still being used now (2022)? 

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Tuesday, August 2, 2022

Brief Description of Sri Goda Devi


 

Story of Goda Devi (Andal) - Tirumala Tirupati Yatra


Thiruppavai

Her first work is the Thiruppavai, a collection of 30 verses in which Andal imagines herself to be a Gopi, one of the cowherd girls known for their unconditional devotion to Lord Krishna. In Thiruppavai, Andal idolized Radha as the ideal gopi and also invoked the gopis of Braj.[13] 

In these verses, she describes the yearning to serve Lord Vishnu and achieve happiness not just in one lifetime, but for all eternity. She also describes the religious vows (pavai) that she and her fellow cowherd girls will observe for this purpose. It is said that Thiruppavai is the nectar of Vedas and teaches philosophical values, moral values, ethical values, pure love, devotion, dedication, single-minded aim, virtues, and the ultimate goal of life.[14][15]

Nachiar Tirumozhi

The second work by Andal is the Nachiar Tirumozhi, a poem of 143 verses. "Thirumozhi" literally means "Sacred Sayings" in a Tamil poetic style and "Nachiar" means Goddess. Therefore, the title means "Sacred Sayings of the Goddess." This poem fully reveals Andal's intense longing for Vishnu, the Divine Beloved. Utilizing classical Tamil poetic conventions and interspersing stories from the Vedas and Puranas, Andal creates imagery that is possibly unparalleled in the whole gamut of Indian religious literature.

In Nachiar Tirumazhi, Andal craves for the Lord and says she would offer the Lord a 1000 pots of "akkarvadisal" if He marries her, which was later fulfilled by Saint Ramanuja in the 11th century.

Nevertheless, conservative vaisnava institutions do not encourage the propagation of Nachiar Tirumozhi as much as they encourage Thiruppavai because Nachiar Tirumozhi belongs to an erotic genre of spirituality that is similar to Jayadeva's Gita Govinda.[16][17][18][19][20]

Significance in Southern India

Andal Temple of the Hoysala period, Chennakeshava Temple, Belur
Andal is one of the best-loved poet-saints of the Tamils. 

Pious tradition holds her to be the incarnation of Bhūmi Devi (Sri Lakshmi as Mother Earth) to show humanity the way to Lord Vishnu's lotus feet.

Representations of her next to Vishnu are present in all vaishnava temples. During the month of Margazhi, discourses on the Thiruppavai in Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, and Hindi take place all over India.[21] 

The Srivilliputhur Divya Desam at Srivilliputhur consists of twin temples, one of which is dedicated to Andal. Most South Indian Vishnu temples have a separate shrine for Andal. There are a number of festivals dedicated to Andal, among the most notable being the Pavai Nonbu in the Tamil month of Margazhi (December – January), Andal Thirukalyanam in Panguni, Pagalpathu, Rapathu, Adi Thiruvizha, when Andal is depicted seated in the lap of Ranganathar.[22] 

Andal is known for her unwavering devotion to Lord Vishnu, the God of the Gods. Adopted by her father, Periyalvar, Andal avoided earthly marriage, the normal and expected path for women of her culture, to marry Vishnu, both spiritually and physically. In many places in India, particularly in Tamil Nadu, Andal is treated more than a saint and as a form of a Goddess herself and a shrine for Andal is dedicated in most Vishnu temples.[23]

Thousands of people from the state Tamil Nadu participate in the "Aadi Pooram" festival celebrated in the Andal Temple. After early morning special pujaas, the presiding deities, Shri Rengamannar and Goddess Andal are taken in decorated palanquins to the car. 

The festival marks the adoption of presiding deity, Andal, by Periyazhwar after he found her near a Tulsi plant in the garden of Vatapatrasayi Temple at Srivilliputhur on the eighth day of the Tamil month of Aadi.[24][25] For Tirupati Brahmotsavam, garlands worn to Andal in Srivilliputhur temple are sent to Venkateswara Temple at Tirupati in Andhra Pradesh. 

These traditional garlands are made of tulasi, sevanthi and sampangi flowers. These garlands are worn by Lord Venkateswara during the Garuda seva procession.[26] Every year Tirupati Venkateswara's garland is sent to Srivilliputtur Andal for marriage festival of Andal.[27] Andal garland is also sent to Madurai Kallazhagar temple for the Chithirai Festival.[27]

In poetry, 9th-century Andal became a well known Bhakti movement poetess, states Pintchman, and historical records suggest that by 12th-century she was a major inspiration to Hindu women in south India and elsewhere.[6] Andal continues to inspire hundreds of classical dancers in modern times choreographing and dancing Andal's songs.[6] Andal is also called Goda, and her contributions to the arts have created Goda Mandali (circle of Andal) in the Vaishnava tradition.[6]

Through poetry of saints (such as Andal) women are thought to be able to connect with the Lord directly and those words are thought to encapsulate their personal emotions.[6]

Goda Mandali (circle) which was named after Andal was formed in 1970 and reorganized in 1982 spreads Andal songs widely through TV and radio programs.[6] The group would gather weekly to learn songs and would sing at events such as festivals where they would raise money for shrines.[6]


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Saragrahi Vaishnavi Has Departed

PADA: Saragrahi Vaishnavi has departed. We hope the assembled Vaishnavas pray for her soul to become closer to Krishna. Her departure will make some sad ... and it is ... largely because it seems untimely for her and similar Vaishnavas who evidently departed early in their years. At the same time -- I think having these types of people leave from an un-livable situation is ... Krishna's arrangement for the best. We wish her well. God speed spirit soul! ys pd 

Monday, August 1, 2022

Be Kind to Ramai Swami Appeal

 


PADA: OK Ramai swami has reportedly mistreated devotees, sometimes severely. And he has promoted weird deviations of the Vaishnava siddhanta. And we have criticized him in the past. And he has acted as a sort of ring leader in the GBC's bogus guru's circus for some time. 

Now someone says -- wait! He is actually not that bad of a guy, but he is being forced and coerced into being an enforcer / bad guy by the other GBC. And ever since his heart attack he has been very subdued and not so forceful, because he feels bad about his previous actions. 

I dunno what say? I could argue in court that I was coerced to help the robbers rob the bank. It might fly with the court, it might not. In any case, I would get some sort of sentence from the court, whether they agreed I was coerced or not. I am still guilty of something. It is our duty to step aside and not allow ourselves to be coerced by bad people. 

We are seeing more of this argument now. Ramesvara was coerced, Satsvarupa was coerced, Jayatirtha was coerced, ummm -- well maybe. Even Sridhar and Narayan Maharajas were coerced. Really? But us dumb mlecchas were not coerced? 

That is why a brahmana is supposed to be independent, so he cannot be coerced into supporting bad acting individuals or their personality cults. My question is, when are all these coerced people going to admit they are the ones who made the mistake? 

ys pd

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Bhakti Niskama Shanta's Fellow Acharyas "Monkeys"?


Yes, as a matter of fact I am another Jesus.
I can absorb the sins of others.
Then again -- so could the deviants Sridar appointed
as gurus after 1936, and after 1977.

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DIKSA GURU LINE IS SAHAJIYISM

-By Srila Bhakti Niskama Shanta Maharaja, Ph.D.

Many in our mission have deviated from the original teachings of Gaudiya sampradaya, which were revived by Srila Bhakti Vinoda Thakur from the filth of Sahajiyaism and later preached vigorously by Srila Bhagti Siddhanta Saraswat Thakur.

Many alleged followers of Srila Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar Dev-Goswami Maharaja have tried to ignore the central conception of the teachings that he has presented to the world from the teachings of Srila Saraswati Thakur. For example, many in our mission, influenced by the concept of Lalita Prasad Thakur, have started following the diksha sampradaya line and have completely neglected Srila Saraswati Thakur's concept of siksha sampradya preached on Gaudiya line of Guru Parampara. Srila Saraswati Thakur and all her genuine followers call sahajiyaism to that path.

[PADA: Wait? BR Sridhar Maharaja said in 1936 we are exclusively a -- diksha guru lineage only -- and that is why he wanted to make his bi-sexual and / or homosexual pals into diksha gurus. Then later on (post-1978) BR Sridhar Maharaja wanted to make his illicit sex with men, women and children diksha gurus in ISKCON. 

And Sridhar started saying there is "the acharya of the zone," which is another foolish idea etc. In short, BR Sridhar never supported the idea that us neophytes should act a shiksha devotees -- or ritviks etc. and in fact we MUST act as agents for the acharya because imitation of the acharya is a deviation.

If we are a shiksha line only (which would have ritviks, proxies or agents preaching for the acharyas), then why would Srila Bhakti Niskama Shanta Maharaja support Sridhar's bogus diksha guru lineage of homosexuals, pedophiles, porno swamis and assorted drug addicts, drunks, deviants, and criminals? 

Then BG Narasimgha says that the GBC gurus are neophytes in a "feel good" society. Why is Sridhar Maharaja making neophytes into diksha gurus? The ritviks are saying that we are mainly a shiksha lineage, which is why we are banned, beaten, sued, exiled and removed by the Sridhara Maharaja diksha gurus. Does this make sense?] 

Many in our mission have considered themselves devotees of the highest race and have tried to illogically criticize our preaching services such as the scientific presentation of Krishna consciousness. They felt there was no rift in the so-called dry scientific presentation of Krishna consciousness.

They even reached to such a point that they denied that the book “Subjective Evolution of Consciousness” is not a part of Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Math and is not compiled from the conception of Srila Sridhar Maharaja.

[PADA: Sridhara Maharaja's conception is that acharyas go mad after money, women and followers. That is not the vedic science. The vedas say that the acharyas are free from all material contamination.]

We consider such individuals in our mission as ordinary monkeys who have foolishly tried to jump from their selfish mountain to the highest plane of the divine lilac witch.

[PADA: OK Narayan Maharaja said all of the ISKCON disciples are monkeys, but oddly, 11 of these monkeys are acharyas. Why is Sridhara Maharaja making monkeys into acharyas? And now they are saying the other gurus in their own mission are monkeys. Why is the Sridhar program always making monkeys into acharyas? And they attack the shiksha line (of ritviks) and make monkeys into their diksha gurus, over and over repeatedly.]

To delve deeper into the meaning of Srila Saraswati Thakur’s expression “visaya range”, Srila Bhakti Sundar Govinda Dev-Goswami Maharaja has elaborated on these ordinary monkeys in the “Best Concept” section of her book “Truth Revealed.” a". Srila Govinda Maharaja has explained that Hanumanji can jump from one mountain to another because he has a pure sense of service towards his master, Lord Sri Ramachandra. 

Srila Govinda Maharaja has also emphasized elsewhere that we should have a mood of service towards our Gurudev as Hanumanji has towards his master, Lord Sri Ramachandra. Without that, according to Srila Govinda Maharaja, if common monkeys try to jump to higher divine pastime, then they are destined to fall to the highest level.

[PADA: OK so the other acharyas in the Sridhar mission are monkeys because they do not accept Srila Bhakti Niskama Shanta as the only acharya. But since he supports the whole Sridhar idea of making pedophiles and / or monkeys into acharyas, why is he any better than the others? 

Notice they are stealing our idea, the rank and file devotees should act as agents for the acharyas (the shiksha line). And now they are fighting like cats, dogs and monkeys, while claiming to be acharyas. How will that impress the public that they are bona fide?

ys pd]

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Who are we trying to fool? – It’s getting weird by the day.

In the utopian world in which the GBC is authorized by Srila Prabhupada to regulate who can be an initiating guru sounds logical to accept them as the referee and guide the multitudes into accepting a spiritual master, be him a Kanistha, Madhyam or Uttama Adhikari. However in the real world in which we live this never happened. Srila Prabhupada DID NOT authorize the GBC to elect, regulate, chastise, put in probation, censor, remove and re-instate spiritual masters. It just did not happen. Period.

The GBC have derailed the tracks and have disobeyed Srila Prabhupada by becoming a self-regulated body that has speculated since the departure of His Divine Grace on how to continue the Parampara. Let me refresh your memory.

First they have selected the 11 ritviks as the representatives of God by installing them as the Acharyas of Iskcon. Next they removed them from being the Acharyas (As good as God) and established a system (As good as they gets) in which the devotees who wanted to be initiating gurus needed a ten man vote support from the local temple / preaching area to get the blessings of the GBC and start initiating disciples. 

Then they directed the foolish souls who could not distinguish Kanistha from Madhyam and Uttama to accept re- initiation and who therefore ended up taking re-initiation two or three times. But that of course it’s their fault isn’t it? 

After all we get what we deserve. Karma! Who can they blame but themselves for having obeyed the GBC? If that is not enough for any intelligent aspiring devotee to accept that the GBC is indeed incapable enough to direct anybody to light they are now saying (the GBC) that the guru is subordinate to the GBC and cannot instruct his disciples when such instructions contradicts the temple President or the local authorities. Isn’t getting weird?

If the GBC was meant to preserve and spread the teachings so kindly given by His Divine Grace we can conclude that on this count they have made fools of themselves and have mocked the sacred institution of the spiritual master. Hardly a qualification for us to accept that they can indeed be instrumental in our quest for finding a Bona-fide spiritual master.

We can go on and on describing the glories of the present and past GBC and their goof ups. This is not my intention. My intention here is to give the reader an idea of what we are getting into when we allow conditioned souls to be initiating spiritual masters and when we allow conditioned souls to select and authorize spiritual masters. It’s weird. It’s insane. It’s not in Sastra.

"Mundane votes have no jurisdiction to elect a Vaisnava acarya. A Vaisnava acarya is self effulgent, and there is no need for any court judgement. A false acarya may try to override a Vaisnava by a High Court decision, but Bhaktivinode Thakura says that he is nothing but A DISCIPLE OF KALI- YUGA ." !!!

(CC (BBT 1975) Madhya 1.220)

Doesn’t this sound familiar? GBC Voted gurus? And:

In addition to ISKCON’s current guru system not having any order from Srila Prabhupada to justify its existence, the GBC’s official “brain”, the “Sastric Advisory Council” (SAC), has said that the process by which it does authorise gurus, via voting them in, is not based on “guru, sadhu and sastra”:

“Our present system has institutionalized a process of senior devotees voting or offering no-objection to prospective gurus. But we do not find that this institutionalized blessing seeking process is mentioned by guru, sadhu or sastra as the way that one is authorized to become a guru.”

(Balancing the roles of the GBC and the disciple in Guru selection, SAC)

Any more eye openers? Let me remind you what our Srila Prabhupada so boldly and conclusively stated.

"Unless one is a resident of Krishna Loka, one cannot be a Spiritual Master. That is the first proposition. A layman cannot be a Spiritual Master, and if he becomes so then he will simply create disturbance. "

(SP Letter Mukunda 6/10/69).

The GBC are not the authorized body to direct prospective disciples to take initiation from a bona-fide spiritual master. They are not. It is simple as that. They have no mandate or any authority given them by Srila Prabhupada. They have done so on their own whims disregarding all scriptural evidence and have created the biggest hoax the Vaisnava world has ever seen.

Let me conclude with these words.

What we know and is accepted by all is that Srila Prabhupada instituted a system in which aspiring disciples would be initiated through a system of representatives. This system was followed until his physical departure in November 1977 and it was stopped. After that it was a jump in the dark.

A darkness we are still trying to find our way out to day, 42 years later.

Begging the dust of the feet of the Vaisnavas and the mercy of Srila Prabhupada
Remaining your worthless servant

Sattvic Dasa

[PADA: OK we are all consciousness. Sign me up. What happens to people's consciousness when they worship Sridhar's illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs? OK the consciousness of people who worship Sridhara's deviated acharyas is, their consciousness deteriorates. And then they start to think pedophiles and deviants are fit to be worshiped as acharyas, ok just like Sridhar does. 

Can someone tell these guys, pedophiles and deviants are not, were not, could not have been God's successors and acharyas. And the cheer leaders of deviant acharyas (like Sridhar) are also not acharyas. ys pd]