WOW PILGRIMS, WE ARE LIVING IN ONE OF THESE COSMIC BUBBLES. SHEESH!
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MADHU PANDIT ON CHANGED BOOKS (For Vyasapuja)
MPD: We beg for strength and pray to Srila Prabhupada on this auspicious Vyasa Puja day, that we be directed to do everything possible, even litigation, to ensure that BBT agrees to print original pre-1977 books alone. Thousands of devotees do not know that they are distributing edited books with diminished potency from the original books of Srila Prabhupada.
How can it be instituted that devotees distribute books that have been edited, as Srila Prabhupad’s, without displaying on the covers that they have been co-authored by the editors ? This is unethical. Yet it is done so that devotees remain enthusiastic in book distribution. They want to tamper with the original work of Srila Prabhupada and still distribute them in the name of Srila Prabhupada’s books.
Srila Prabhupada has sanctioned us respite from the ISKCON Bangalore Vs ISKCON Mumbai legal battle, with the win at the Supreme Court of India and the right to function as ISKCON temples all over India. We pray for his blessings to go legal internationally, for the cause of maintaining the purity of his books. We pray that if it so pleases you, Srila Prabhupada, may you use us to end this tampering of your transcendental vani.
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PADA: Yes Gopal Krishna swami helped make a samadhi in the dham for Kirtanananda -- who was having oral sex with young males at New Vrndavana. We had to sue Kirtanananda's program for $3M and later $400M for mass children exploiting, and Kirtanananda was one of the exploiters. We should not bury the exploiters of children who are sued for mass child mistreatment -- in a samadhi in the dham.
The courts also ruled for us, we won and ISKCON had to pay giant fees and fines. Why does the court know it is not good to promote child predators as gurus, or place predators in samadhis, and Gopal Krishna does not? Rather amazing, the folks in this video say we need to accept the authority of people who make homosexual and pedophile samadhis or else we cannot understand what Srila Prabhupada says. OK here in the West a person making a sacred burial site for a homosexual pedophile / bogus messiah would be beaten with shoes and sued, and the samadhi would not have been allowed.
*** That doesn't include the rascal rittviks, however, who falsely claim to be initiated by him. They aren't initiated by Prabhupāda, and he doesn't take their sañcita-karma either, because that is a cheating concoction in defiance of all Vaiṣṇava tradition.
ANSWER: These sorry numbers actually make the opposite point. These numbers seem big, but they are a pittance. Under the pure devotional energy of Srila Prabhupada and his disciples' intertwined desires, book distribution doubled yearly.
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| 1978 | 2.5 million |
| 1979 | 5 million |
(2025 FIGURE OF ALL LANGUAGE BGs WOULD HAVE REACHED SOMETIME IN 1980 IN ENGLISH ALONE!!!!)
| 1980 | 10 million |
| 1981 | 20 million |
| 1982 | 40 million |
| 1983 | 80 million |
| 1984 | 160 million |
| 1985 | 320 million |
| 1990 | 10.24 billion |
By 1988 - ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WOULD HAVE HAD THE BG!!!!!
JUST HYPOTHETICALLY, IF IT HAD CONTINUED, one would have had to go to other planets:
| 1995 | 327.68 billion |
| 2000 | 10.49 trillion |
| 2005 | 335.54 trillion |
| 2010 | 10.74 quadrillion |
| 2015 | 343.60 quadrillion |
| 2020 | 10.995 quintillion |
| **2025** | **351.84 quintillion** |
So, per this conservative calculation, the BG distribution has almost ground to a halt - just going on from past energy at the 1979/80 numbers, like when the fan is switched off!
If this is not a symptom of an almost finished SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT, then what is?
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MADHU PANDIT ON CHANGED BOOKS (For Vyasapuja)
MPD: We beg for strength and pray to Srila Prabhupada on this auspicious Vyasa Puja day, that we be directed to do everything possible, even litigation, to ensure that BBT agrees to print original pre-1977 books alone. Thousands of devotees do not know that they are distributing edited books with diminished potency from the original books of Srila Prabhupada.
How can it be instituted that devotees distribute books that have been edited, as Srila Prabhupad’s, without displaying on the covers that they have been co-authored by the editors ? This is unethical. Yet it is done so that devotees remain enthusiastic in book distribution. They want to tamper with the original work of Srila Prabhupada and still distribute them in the name of Srila Prabhupada’s books.
Srila Prabhupada has sanctioned us respite from the ISKCON Bangalore Vs ISKCON Mumbai legal battle, with the win at the Supreme Court of India and the right to function as ISKCON temples all over India. We pray for his blessings to go legal internationally, for the cause of maintaining the purity of his books. We pray that if it so pleases you, Srila Prabhupada, may you use us to end this tampering of your transcendental vani.
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PADA: Yes Gopal Krishna swami helped make a samadhi in the dham for Kirtanananda -- who was having oral sex with young males at New Vrndavana. We had to sue Kirtanananda's program for $3M and later $400M for mass children exploiting, and Kirtanananda was one of the exploiters. We should not bury the exploiters of children who are sued for mass child mistreatment -- in a samadhi in the dham.
The courts also ruled for us, we won and ISKCON had to pay giant fees and fines. Why does the court know it is not good to promote child predators as gurus, or place predators in samadhis, and Gopal Krishna does not? Rather amazing, the folks in this video say we need to accept the authority of people who make homosexual and pedophile samadhis or else we cannot understand what Srila Prabhupada says. OK here in the West a person making a sacred burial site for a homosexual pedophile / bogus messiah would be beaten with shoes and sued, and the samadhi would not have been allowed.
The public would not have allowed such desecration to happen over here. Sulochana said worshiping a bucket of dog poop is more pious than worship of a homosexual pedophile, because a dog poop will not ban, beat, molest, sue and kill Vaishnavas. They are not advanced enough to worship a bucket of dog poop, which is why, the Gopal Krishna program had him assassinated.
ys pd
angel108b@yahoo.com
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The Vaishnava Foundation (Kailasachandra dasa):
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The Vaishnava Foundation (Kailasachandra dasa):
Nobody says to worship phantom-madhyams, rascal.
PD: Kailasa wrote a paper for the GBC in 1990, we need to worship a Madhyam. His followers constantly argue with us that we should worship a Madhyam. Since there is none, they are promoting the worship of nothing. Why does Kailasa folks never name their Madhyam guru? Because he does not exist. All glories to nothing!
*** In practically all of his articles, Kailasa Prabhu encourages everyone to worship Śrīla Prabhupāda as śikṣā-guru, and those who were actually initiated by him as dīkṣā-guru as well.
PD: Right, so when the Kailasa people say our training people to offer bhogha to the pure devotee is "the karta bhaja sahajiya Christian idea," that means Kailasa is saying Srila Prahbupada is teaching the Christian idea of saying grace before a meal? Well yes he is, Srila Prabhupada says worship of Jesus is worship of a pure devotee. Why does Kailasa want people to NOT offer their bhogha to the pure devotee and he says that "saying grace to Jesus" is sahajiya Christian? Kailasa is the world's leader of the bhogha-eater society, he is advocating eating un-offered bhogha, claiming that offering bhogha is like saying grace to Jesus. I forgot, we need to say grace to the (non-uttama) Kailasa gurus who can become asuras. That is what the GBC says? Sorry, offering bhogha to the pure devotee is a process given by Srila Prahbupada and he never said offering food to the pure devotee is the karta bhaja crypto Christian "saying grace to Jesus" deviation. You guys are making things up wholesale.
*** That doesn't include the rascal rittviks, however, who falsely claim to be initiated by him. They aren't initiated by Prabhupāda, and he doesn't take their sañcita-karma either, because that is a cheating concoction in defiance of all Vaiṣṇava tradition.
PD: Srila Prabhupada says just by reading my books they are initiated, which means they are getting divyam jnanam that destroys sins. Why does Kailasa keep saying worship of the pure devotee does not save us from sins? I forgot, Kailasa wants us to worship the Madhyam who can become an asura. And eat food offered to same. Why is Kailasa saying that prasadam, saying grace to the pure devotee, is the Christian idea? When we all know offering bhogha to the PURE DEVOTEE is Srila Prabhupada's idea. Why are we training people to stop offering their bhogha to the pure devotee claiming this is Christian's grace praying?
*** You cannot become initiated by a non-manifest spiritual master on an institutional, mass scale. That is completely bogus, especially when you have practically no evidence backing it whatsoever. Where did Prabhupada ever say, no gurus after me? NOWHERE!!
PD: You cannot get any divyam jnanam that destroys sins by worship of a pure devotee? Then how do people get their sins absolved? I forgot, they worship a person who can become an asura. Kailasa thinks the Vedas have no knowledge that destroys sins, and the Atheists say the same thing. Kailasa is a sock puppet of the atheists. Yes I argue with atheists from time to time, and they speak exactly like Kailasa "there is no divyam jnanam that destroys sins in the Vedas." Why are you guys preaching mayavada and atheist's ideas for 30 years now? Srila Prabhupada says just by touchng my book theur are purified, you say there is no purifification there. Atheist.
*** You rascal rittviks are simply an imitation of Churchianity. But Jesus Christ doesn't know you whatsoever, nor is he part of any of the four disciplic successions mentioned in the Padma-Purāṇa, which are described as the only means for liberation. The fact that you have to grovel at the feet of bogus Christians for some so-called legitimacy of your heresy speaks volumes. Why not use guru sadhu shastra to establish your bogus claim instead? Answer: You can't, cause its BOGUS!!
PADA: So when the Kailasa people tell us that offerings to the pure devotee is like the Christians offering prayers to Jesus, that means our people cannot offer their bhogha to the pure devotee. Why does Kailsa want people to eat unoffered bhogha and die in a sinful state? I forgot, he wants us to offer bhogha to people who can become asuras. Why is Kailasa always repeating Ravindra swarupa? Ravindra also says we need to offer bhogha to the people who can become asuras. Why is Ravindra swarupa the authority of Kailasa, and Kailasa is writing papers for Ravindra in 1990? Kailasa has never understood, Ravindra is not our guru. It is also amazing that when we save people from eating meat, Kailasa says we are not saving them from sins. Kailasa does not even know eating meat is a sin? And that is what happens to people who become sock puppets of the GBC, like Kailasa. ys pd
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COMPARING BG UNCHANGED VS CHANGED / PURE SPIRITUAL VS MIXED MOVEMENTS' SALES NUMBERS
Proponents of West Bengal GBC run ISKCON and of changed books dandy about "massive" current book distribution numbers, stating:
“If we are discussing whether the later edition harmed Bhagavad-gita distribution, then the actual sales and distribution numbers are worth looking at, because Srila Prabhupada clearly wanted his books to be distributed as widely as possible and did not want anything to hamper that mission.
In the 1976 BBT report presented to Srila Prabhupada, Ramesvara Prabhu gave the Bhagavad-gita figures in detail: Total Bhagavad-gita sales in English for 1976: 622,000 copies, not counting what was printed in India.
For 2025, the BBT reported more than 5.8 million copies of Bhagavad-gita As It Is distributed worldwide. So the comparison is simple:
1976: 622,000 English Bhagavad-gitas, excluding India
2025: 5.8+ million Bhagavad-gitas worldwide
That is more than nine times the documented 1976 figure. From a devotee’s perspective, this also shows that Srila Prabhupada’s mercy and blessings are fully present in today’s book distribution. Without his mercy, blessings, teachings, and the movement He established, devotees would not be reaching a figure like 5.8 million Bhagavad-gitas in a single year.”
ANSWER: These sorry numbers actually make the opposite point. These numbers seem big, but they are a pittance. Under the pure devotional energy of Srila Prabhupada and his disciples' intertwined desires, book distribution doubled yearly.
• 1976: 622,000 Bhagavad-gītās sold in English alone, excluding India.
https://prabhupadabooks.com/.../calcutta/january/16/1977
https://prabhupadabooks.com/.../calcutta/january/16/1977
• January 1977: Ramesvara described a 1.5-million-copy hardbound printing as being “for one year’s sales.” That was already about 2.4 times the previous year's 622,000 figure.
https://prabhupadabooks.com/.../jan/bombay/january/09/1977
• February 1977: the BBT reported almost three million Gītās in print.
• February 1977: the BBT reported almost three million Gītās in print.
https://vedabase.io/en/library/transcripts/770224r1may/
• May 1977: Srila Prabhupada expressly praised the devotees for “working so hard to double the book distribution this year.”
• May 1977: Srila Prabhupada expressly praised the devotees for “working so hard to double the book distribution this year.”
https://vedabase.io/.../letters/letter-to-ramesvara-74/
• October 1977: referring to the 1.5-million-copy printing, Ramesvara told Srila Prabhupada: “Next year we are planning to double it.”
• October 1977: referring to the 1.5-million-copy printing, Ramesvara told Srila Prabhupada: “Next year we are planning to double it.”
https://vanisource.org/.../771010_-_Conversation_B...
• May 1978: Back to Godhead reported more than three million Bhagavad-gītās sold since 1976.
• May 1978: Back to Godhead reported more than three million Bhagavad-gītās sold since 1976.
https://back2godhead.com/every-town-and-village-4/
Taking conservative estimates:
Taking conservative estimates:
| Year | Hypothetical annual distribution |
| -------- | -------------------------------: |
| 1978 | 2.5 million |
| 1979 | 5 million |
(2025 FIGURE OF ALL LANGUAGE BGs WOULD HAVE REACHED SOMETIME IN 1980 IN ENGLISH ALONE!!!!)
| 1980 | 10 million |
| 1981 | 20 million |
| 1982 | 40 million |
| 1983 | 80 million |
| 1984 | 160 million |
| 1985 | 320 million |
| 1990 | 10.24 billion |
By 1988 - ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WOULD HAVE HAD THE BG!!!!!
JUST HYPOTHETICALLY, IF IT HAD CONTINUED, one would have had to go to other planets:
| 1995 | 327.68 billion |
| 2000 | 10.49 trillion |
| 2005 | 335.54 trillion |
| 2010 | 10.74 quadrillion |
| 2015 | 343.60 quadrillion |
| 2020 | 10.995 quintillion |
| **2025** | **351.84 quintillion** |
So, per this conservative calculation, the BG distribution has almost ground to a halt - just going on from past energy at the 1979/80 numbers, like when the fan is switched off!
If this is not a symptom of an almost finished SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT, then what is?
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