Ramesvara / Robert Grant
Hare Krsna. Pamho. AGTSP! We all know that Lord Nityananda stopped Lord Caitanya from killing the demons Jagai and Madhai. Pure devotee Gurus are representatives of Lord Nityananda. Perhaps they can offer forgiveness. For myself, I was taught that the only way such demon child abusers could ever be forgiven is when they approach each and every victim, and humbly sincerely serve them life after life after life- and then maybe, those souls who were victims of horrific abuses may one day, or in one lifetime forgive them.
Hare Krsna. Pamho. AGTSP! We all know that Lord Nityananda stopped Lord Caitanya from killing the demons Jagai and Madhai. Pure devotee Gurus are representatives of Lord Nityananda. Perhaps they can offer forgiveness. For myself, I was taught that the only way such demon child abusers could ever be forgiven is when they approach each and every victim, and humbly sincerely serve them life after life after life- and then maybe, those souls who were victims of horrific abuses may one day, or in one lifetime forgive them.
Other than that, they are doomed as far as I understand their karma. My generation terribly failed to act on Srila Prabhupada's direct order to protect the devotee children, and I do not know how I could be forgiven for my lapse in allowing any abuse, anywhere in our Movement, to ever take place.
The abusers should have all been sent to prison and their crime known to other prisoners- to have the beginning of their karmic reactions delivered. Child abusing prisoners are often severely punished, day after day, by other prisoners. I am so sorry for the lapses of myself and others from my generation, and aspire to serve such souls in any way that I can, as their aspiring servant, ramesvara dasa.
JY: Oh, this coming from a pedophile who has never gone to his own victims to offer apologies!!! LOL!!! Remember R Dasi in Los Angeles who you started grooming when she was a tiny little girl? Please, you hypocrite!
Robert Grant: You really don’t know the facts. R Devi was “in love” with a nice non devotee boy in her high school, who is the father of her first child. He suffered a horrific sports injury leaving him permanently disabled in high school and his parents sued R Dasi for child custody. I was her friend and it was a subtle fall down only - but not a physical fall down. Feel free to call me off or email me as this is well known who she loved and was physical with.
JY: You lie, she told me herself all about your SRA stuff and how you had to pay Radhanath $40K to purchase her life, because she could not take all the trauma, her nerves were giving out. Radhanath wanted to sacrifice her, but you loved her and wanted her for your self. You owned her.
When you rape a child there is no love involved there. I believe her, she is loyal to Srila Prabhupada and You are loyal to Satan. You will be running from all of us when more victims recall their nightmares. You will know the terror that you caused her and other little children and babies you sick pedophile, bastard!!!
Y DASI: It is hard to know whether he is genuine or whether it's a cover. If he has been abusing kids behind the scenes it's probably a cover. I hope he really means it but with these people it's hard to tell.
JY: Oh, this coming from a pedophile who has never gone to his own victims to offer apologies!!! LOL!!! Remember R Dasi in Los Angeles who you started grooming when she was a tiny little girl? Please, you hypocrite!
Robert Grant: You really don’t know the facts. R Devi was “in love” with a nice non devotee boy in her high school, who is the father of her first child. He suffered a horrific sports injury leaving him permanently disabled in high school and his parents sued R Dasi for child custody. I was her friend and it was a subtle fall down only - but not a physical fall down. Feel free to call me off or email me as this is well known who she loved and was physical with.
JY: You lie, she told me herself all about your SRA stuff and how you had to pay Radhanath $40K to purchase her life, because she could not take all the trauma, her nerves were giving out. Radhanath wanted to sacrifice her, but you loved her and wanted her for your self. You owned her.
When you rape a child there is no love involved there. I believe her, she is loyal to Srila Prabhupada and You are loyal to Satan. You will be running from all of us when more victims recall their nightmares. You will know the terror that you caused her and other little children and babies you sick pedophile, bastard!!!
Y DASI: It is hard to know whether he is genuine or whether it's a cover. If he has been abusing kids behind the scenes it's probably a cover. I hope he really means it but with these people it's hard to tell.
[PADA: All of these children victims experienced a lot of trauma, whether they were physically or psychologically abused. Telling children that Ramesvara is their messiah savior from heaven is psychological abuse of the worst order. He knew he is not the messiah, we knew he is not the messiah, but the children have been bewildered in many cases because they have had no psychological defense against this constant brain washing propaganda.
We know that Ramesvara was taking his young female student out on "dates" and that is simply a covert form of child abuse, assuming nothing overt was going on. Of course I am not assuming overt relations were not going on personally.
According to former "LA temple enforcers" Ramesvara was also part of the scheme to take out Sulochana, and for that type crime there is little that can be done to fix it. You cannot apologize to a person who is no longer here.
One devotee said that Ramesvara's goondas would bash on people's doors in the middle of the night with big sticks -- to terrorize them, even if they had little babies, which caused the babies to scream in terror as well. And people would get their car tires slashed, all the windows broke out of their cars and so many other atrocities were going on there all the time.
Overall I appreciate Ramesvara's statement, what he and the others did was reprehensible in terms of neglecting the welfare of the children citizens, and we all need to come to grips with that fact. More reprehensible is assassinating the people who were alerting others to the abuse, as Sulochana was. As Y Dasi says, it is hard to really figure out if these people are sincerely apologizing, or if it is window dressing.
In the end Ramesvara is right, the molesters of children are lowest scale in the ranks of prisoners, they are doomed to bad karma, and therefore they are condemned everywhere. To have such people in high offices in ISKCON (like Lokanath) is simply abominable. So I hope that Ramesvara is sincere, but even if he is, a lot of damage has already been done and much of it is unfixable at this stage. My role in all this is to make sure all this is recorded for history, so this history does not repeat. ys pd]
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PADA: Agreed JD. All sorts of devotees are being banned, beaten, molested sued and killed, and Ramsevara is being called "Srila Rage-iswara" for his tendency to yell and shout at people. He had no interest in helping the victims because he was creating victims himself during his reign of terror.
ReplyDeleteYep,he created the Los Angeles goonda squad and they are still there. The LA devotees love Jayapataka, the main person who helped the BVP and molester empire in Mayapur. The LA devotees are always advertising support for Mayapur, and anyone who disagrees gets beaten with shoes in their face. They are pedophile regime lovers there all along and still are. And Ramesvara co-planted the weeds that created that empire. He may have some remorse now, but I do not believe he is fully admitting to everything. ys pd