Saturday, April 24, 2021

Rambhoru / And the Bogus Jesus Program

 Rambhoru Brinkman (ISKCON's Karuna care Listening Center)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/rambhoru-brinkmann-893968b

https://www.vaishnaviministryna.com/post/counseling-services-with-rambhoru-dasi

https://karunacare.iskcon.org/

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Prithu (Peter Brinkman) is an abusive leader:

https://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=11914

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PADA: Rambhoru (aka Robin Brinkman) says she was originally having great enlightened spiritual experiences just by worshiping Jesus, even though 2,000 years has passed. Sounds great! Except, the officials in the current ISKCON institution -- which she is apparently participating in and supporting -- are very fond of saying -- we cannot worship persons like Jesus because that is "the ritvik deviation" and "worship of Srila Prabhupada is the bogus Christian idea" and so on and so forth. That sort of nullifies the whole idea that worship of Jesus is bona fide?

And as we should know by now, the worship of Srila Prabhupada (and / or Jesus) has been replaced with ISKCON's post-1978 "guru chain" -- i.e. worship of their "illicit sex with men, women and children" bogus messiahs. In short, worship of Jesus is bogus, but worship of a "guru chain" that contains: -- illicit sex, pornography addicted swamis, pedophiles, drunks, drug addicts, sexual predators, gurus who are having illicit sex with half dozen women -- and so on and so forth --  is the bona fide process. Really?  

And Rambhoru is a person who claims she wants to help heal the ex-children (gurukuli) victims of molestation / abuse of ISKCON -- while she self evidently promotes the ISKCON leaders i.e. the homosexual and pedophile guru lineage process -- that abused these victims? Or what? She says she wants to "listen" -- but the ISKCON children were vociferously told they have to worship the sexual predators and deviants guru lineage -- by the institution she is participating in. And she does not seem to respond to that problem with any good explanation? 

As one of the victims said to PADA, when we vomited we were made to eat it, and they are still making us eat vomit by promoting the self same people from the program that abused us. Where is the alleged "listening" to the victims? 

And a disciple of Gopal Krishna is named as involved in her program, and that is the same program that buries a known homosexual pedophile in a samadhi in Vrndavana. And after that -- then they buried a pornography addict swami in another samadhi -- etc. And some ex-children tell me it makes them feel physically ill just to hear the names of the people involved in all this. Why is Rambhoru, or anyone who else cares about children, still part of that process? 

What exactly is -- a pedophile in samadhi -- in the first place? She says she listens, but cannot answer this question we have put forward for decades? One PADA reading mother says -- all the virus troubles they are having in India is because -- they are allowing the worship of deviants as acharyas, and placing pedophiles in samadhis in India's holy dham etc. That may be at least possible, begging the question, how much damage is enough for the Rambhoru process?  

Victims and others are barfing at hearing the names of some of the people associated with her program, and that is how she thinks -- this will heal them? Bhakta Josh just told us there are a lot of frustrated, if not angry ex-gurukuli students (who were often abused) who hold "bitterness and resentfulness" towards the institution. And they are bitter largely because -- they were forcibly indoctrinated into the process of worship of the pedophile guru lineage, which ended up abusing them. 

How are we "listening" to the victims, by promoting the self same bogus leaders that orchestrated their abuse? Essentially, the same leaders are in charge now as when the abuse was going on? That is re-victimizing the victims?       

When we gave Rambhoru's husband Prithu das (Peter Brinkman) a booklet about how we need to worship Srila Prabhupada, and not worship Prithu's pedophile messiah's program, he ripped up our booklet and the photo of Srila Prabhupada on the cover. He said, "What the hell is this sh*t doing here"? 

And then he ripped it up, and tossed our booklet on the ground and stomped on Srila Prabhupada's photo with his feet. So anyone who wants to worship Srila Prabhupada is a horrible deviant, because otherwise then -- people will not be worshiping Prithu's pedophile messiah's club. And that is going to help heal the victims? 

And a devotee who was present at the time and saw Prithu rip up Srila Prabhupada's photo, and stomp on his photo with his feet it said, "Wow, these people's hatred for Srila Prabhupada is very intense. They openly say Srila Prabhupada is a piece of sh*t." So they hate to see Srila Prabhupada being worshiped as the guru, because that would stop them from cramming forward their pedophile worship program -- to the peril of the children of ISKCON. And Prithu supported the pedophile messiahs club so that he could get voted into their system later on -- evidently? 

And now we are going to "listen to the victims," by promoting the self same bogus guru lineage, and its top enabling apologists like Anuttama? In short, they crammed the worship of their homosexual and pedophile pals down the throats of ISKCON's children, then they pretty much spit on Srila Prabhupada and stomped on his photo, and then the (not surprising) result is -- that causes perhaps thousands of kids to be molested. 

And after all that, we STILL have to -- continue to lick the jack boots of the same regime responsible for all this mayhem and criminal neglect, criminal abuse etc., and the policy of subsequent banning, beating, suing and assassinating us for protesting?

And let us not forget, Prithu was himself voted into this molester "guru lineage" as a "diksha guru" himself. The diksha guru is an equal to Jesus, because he absorbs the sins of the followers. How did Prithu come to think he is another Jesus? Because he had all sorts of encouragement, support, cheer leading, enabling -- and sometimes violent enforcing -- from the pedophile messiah's regime. 

They welcomed him in as a co-conspirator. Let us suppress the worship of pure devotees, and foist forward our bogus worship of debauchees program -- onto the CHILDREN. Did we forget to mention, neophytes who take sins from others as bogus diksha gurus -- have to take those sins with them when they go to the hellish planets -- where they are indeed destined to go, do not pass Go and go direct to jail? And Srila Prabhupada said -- none of you should try to act as a diksha guru and absorb sins, because it will take you down? Why don't they listen to their own guru?

So they wanted Prithu to be another one of their maybe over 100 bogus Jesus' since 1978, thus it is no wonder many of them say that worship of the ACTUAL Jesus is the bogus ritvik deviation. READ: They hate to see the ACTUAL Jesus being worshiped -- because that takes away from them being worshiped. And that is also why they rip up Srila Prabhupada's photo and stomp on it. Srila Prabhupada or Jesus are -- their competition. "Why in hell is this sh*t here"? 

Anyway! Prithu was voted in by the GBC as "Krishna's pure devotee guru successor" / aka another Jesus by the same folks who make the recoronation of a known sexual predator "guru successor" etc. Prithu confessed that he is ready to reject Srila Prabhupada if the book "The Final Order" (we should worship pure devotees) is true. Again, when presented with a booklet stating, amongst other things, that homosexual guru lineages are not bona fide, and we need to worship the pure devotee, he said "What the hell is this SH*T doing here!" Unquote. 

Anyway! There you have it! Worship of the pure devotee is "the ritvik deviation." We do not want to have people worship pure devotees because "then we will be like the Christians." Yep, no problem, we have a pocketful of our illicit sex with men, women and children, sexual predators, homosexuals, porno swamis, sex with taxi drivers messiahs etc. for you to worship instead. And for your kids to worship! 

Is Rambhoru, Prithu or any of this mob listening? Yes, they are listening to the enablers, apologists, cheer leaders, legal advisors, and henchmen of the whole pedophiles messiahs regime. And that is why they never consult with us, the whole time since 1978. They still think their pedophile messiahs program will fly, well guess what? It won't. Sulochan said, once you put a dog's stool into the sweet rice and try to sell it, no one wants to buy it. It is too contaminated.

 


Leader of the enablers parade


http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2012/07/prithu-dasa-aka-peter-brinkman-update.html


http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2016/03/history-of-gbcs-praghosa-ireland-prithu.html


[PADA: Yep, according to various reports, Prithu was another guy eating like a Saudi Prince, buying expensive personal items for himself etc. when the gurukuli children were being starved and perhaps fed rotten oatmeal. Various ex-kulis told me these leaders have been acting like Kim Jong Un of North Korea's empire, they are eating nicely, the peons have to eat grass and moldy un-eatables.]

THEY THINK THAT I AM DEAD.

Prithu Prabhu told an amazing story last year at Janmashtami in Moscow. He said that he was at that moment in Vrindavan when Srila Prabhupada was leaving this world. And he saw the whole ceremony. All of them are young disciples of Srila Prabhupada, young, with a great deal of horror and secretly looked at everything that was happening then. Srila Prabhupada left the body, and no one knew what would happen next.

And Prthu Prabhu says that when Srila Prabhupad was placed in samadhi, then in that place, exactly in the place where his head was, and he was put in the lotus position, they put a long bamboo pole so that it was clear where to put it, then further samadhi and erect. And then they piled it on top with earth, made a mound. And in the end, the pole was removed, and he saw that this hole led deep into it. The hole, however, quickly fell asleep dry Vrindavan land.

He says that that night after this ceremony, it made a very strong impression on everyone, and that night after the ceremony he had a very vivid dream. He saw Srila Prabhupada's samadhi, the land where his body lies. And he began to approach slowly towards him, and to his surprise he saw that the hole had become large, such. And he began to approach timidly to look there. So? Because, well, I wonder what's going on inside there. He began to look in there, because through this opening one can see Srila Prabhupada there below.

And suddenly he felt that someone was nearby. And he looked around and saw that Srila Prabhupada was standing nearby and was also looking there. That Srila Prabhupada crept on tiptoes and also looks where he is looking there. And Srila Prabhupada is alive, more alive than when he is alive, shining in his spiritual body. Srila Prabhupada looked at him seriously and said, "They think I'm dead."

A person thinks that a spiritual teacher may die. But only a bad student who has not learned anything from his spiritual teacher thinks so. Prthu Prabhu said that the explanation for all the troubles in ISKCON and all the problems in ISKCON in one phrase: “They think I'm dead.” When a person thinks this way, he stops learning. (...)

[PADA: Yes, when we were in Los Angeles -- handing out our documents saying "Srila Prabhupada is the living guru of ISKCON," Prithu violently grabbed a copy from our associate, trying to stop us from distributing these documents. Prithu looked at the photo of Srila Prabhupada on the cover and he yelled, "What the hell is this sh*t doing here"? (I am an eye witness)

And he ripped up our magazine into pieces, with the photo of Srila Prabhupada on the cover, and he stomped on the pieces with his shoes. Now, after he publicly declares that Srila Prabhupada is no more than a piece of sh*t to him, and he rips up an image of Srila Prabhupada and stomps on it with shoes, he suddenly says that the problem is -- minimizing Srila Prabhupada? And he has been among the number one people doing that minimizing?

And he even says our idea that Srila Prabhupada is living is -- the piece of sh*t idea? Why is this type person allowed to go around speaking in ISKCON centers? Oh, I forgot, they mostly also all want our documents ripped up. Its like Jayadvaita swami asking, why in the hell are people chanting Srila Prabhupada's pranams. Birds of the same feather -- flop together, as Sulochan often said. Yep, this is the type of person the GBC wants to have going around lecturing. Told ya! OK true, it is good news however that they are back tracking to a small degree, albeit slow and piece meal. 

Rambhoru has good advice, start to listen, physician, heal thyself first. When is she going to start to listen? If her and Prithu types had listened to us right at the get go when we started protesting in 1978-9, while still in ISKCON (before we got kicked out) none of this disaster would have EVER happened. They are professional listeners, who never listen to us, or to Srila Prabhupada -- who told them thousands of times -- do not make bogus gurus / bogus Jesus programs. You will go to hell, and so will the people whom you drag down there with you. ys pd]

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Prithu das aka Peter Brinkman


What the hell is this sh*t doing here?

11 comments:

  1. LW: Same thing happened to Krishna. Some suggest ... Krishna should be worshiped ... right away some asuras criticize ... "what is this manure"? Envious asuras are always very angry when they find out Krishna ... or His pure devotees ... will be worshiped (and not their asura friends).

    I often wondered? Why Srila Prabhupada says ... in the Gaudiya Matha they made a false guru ... and they insisted on it. Now we know what he means ... the asuras always insist. Why are we not worshiping Kamsa? They have no clue ... being envious of the worship of pure devotees is almost identical to envious of worship of Krishna.
    Main difference is ... sometimes Krishna forgives people who are envious of Him ... but He never forgives people who are envious of worship of His pure devotee. That is a giant steel lock ... placed on the gates to hell.

    Prithu is still being glorified by some of these bone heads of It'saCON. He was a very creepy guy when he was in Ireland ... he would explode in anger over minor trifles .... but not even notice when big issues were creating BIG problems. Big issue No. 1 is ... none of them are gurus.

    He probably won't admit he was wrong now. Once they sell their soul to the Devil ... the Devil does not allow hardly anyone to withdraw. It is usually a permanent deal. The Devil usually gets his due.

    Prithu planted his flag with the worship of fools, so he probably has to stick with these fools. Rambhoru is also stuck really ... if she goes against them now ... she will be in civil war against all the people she supported all this time ... maybe even her own family. She wants people to listen ... but she never does. It is a conspiracy of silence ... and the silent majority is what cause all this ... by going along. They are all enablers. Even my gurukuli friends say ... none of this happens without the silent majority ... remaining silent.

    They enabled it ... now they make pretend they want to hear from us. They don't. It is another form of cheating us and the victims.

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  2. M Dasi. Seems to me Srila Prabhupada's plan all along was ... if the wheels should fall off ISKCON's wagon ... then my senior disciples ... like Rambhoru, Prithu, and others ... will stand up. And defend and challenge. My dear children won't allow my ISKCON house to be burnt down ... they will defend my house.

    So I can count on my dear loving children to make sure ... no one sets fire to the father's house. Instead what seems to be the case ... these so-called seniors are the very exact people who lighted matches and poured a hose filled with petrol ... into the fire. They helped burn it down.

    My friends saw people laughing after Sulochan was murdered .. and some of them were "Prabhupada's dear disciples." These "Prabhupada people" were actually happy that Prabhupada's devotees were being killed ... so they could make Kirtanananda the ISKCON King ... all with his gold crown and scepter which he wore. They wanted to get rid of Srila Prabhupada ... and they did. They gave their own children over to that camp ... and many of their own children ended up suffering terribly ... as I know some of them.

    They wanted fools to be worshiped ... not Prabhupada. That is clear what happened. Rambhoru knows more about Prithu crazy-ness than all of us ... put together. She could have rang the alarm bell as soon as Prithu says ... I am another Jesus ... who can take people's sins.

    That is certified insanity right out the door. In the mental home ... some crazy persons think they are another Jesus. Certified fools. That person needs to stay in the mental home ... give them medications ... and not make them a guru of ISKCON. She knows better. The people Prabhupada hoped would put out the fire ... helped start the fire ... and added a hundred thousand buckets of petrol. They are very sinful people.

    You are right ... sinful men posing as guru are going to the darkness of hell ... and so are their handlers. She is simply enabling all of this ... and she probably knows it. Many of them stay for the social life ... and other perks of being a big shot in that camp. Oh she is a senior person ... give her a big cushion to speak. We already know they say ... help us burn down the house that belongs to God. Very sinful. I am so glad I am not drinking their kool aid. Prithu is another Jesus ... hah hah, would be funny ... if they were not causing so much suffering for tens of thousands of people.

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  3. SD: They just removed the pujari in Alachua ... for his speaking out about the pedophile guru stuff. They never listen to us.

    Anuttama goes to the Interfaith meetings ... to meet with "the bogus Christian ritviks" ... but he won't meet with the Hare Krishna ritviks. Hah hah. He only wants to meet the "bogus followers of Jesus" and not the real followers of Prabhupada.

    These guys just make up everything as they go along. You are right ... real issue is ... they want people to not worship Prabhupada and worship bogus people. Then ... the children will get burnt out and leave ... so they will have nice empty buildings to make a Hindu business. They wanted to get rid of these children ... and they did ... and no one should make the mistake of thinking otherwise. This is not a mistake ... they wanted to get rid of the Prabhupada devotees and their children ... so they could empty the buildings for their Hindu business. And that is one reason I believe they allowed the molesting to run on and on ... so these children would leave. It was always about taking over the buildings and it still is.

    Rambhoru is simply another apologist with more of their new age blabbling. No one cares for their big "listening" program ... because we know they ban people even today ... because they never listen. It is all show with no substance.

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  4. PADA: Yes D Dasi, Rambhoru and Prithu types have supported their program of worship of pedophiles and debauchees as the alleged Jesus of ISKCON all along since 1978. Then -- they make pretend they have no idea why thousands of kids claim they were abused and / or molested in ISKCON. They are the cause of the mass molesting by enabling, cheer leading and supporting their mass molesting guru regime, thus they are a big part of the reason this all happened. The Kauravas had all sorts of support from other bogus Princes and Kings.

    In sum! They are all along co-conspirators with their pedophile messiahs club and still are. None of this mass abuse would have happened without them enabling, cheer leading, acting as apologists, driving the getaway car, acting as look outs during the crimes and etc. That is why we call them -- "the enforced cult ritualistic worship of pedophiles as messiahs project." They are the enforcers.

    Now, they are going to work with Anuttama, who says the molesting in ISKCON is the same as the molesting in the Church. Wow! So they are saying the Church promotes worshiping molesters as their messiahs, just like they are doing. No, the Church knows that the molesters are NOT in any way aligned with their messiah level of saints.

    They just cannot let another day go by without their kicking their giant jack books on the head Jesus, by now claiming his program worships molesters as messiahs -- just as their bogus ISKCON has molesters as its messiahs. Why are they saying the Church worships molesters as its messiahs, which is the same as their program?

    Because self evidently they hate Jesus and now want to lump him into their program of making molesters into messiahs, saying the Church also worships molester messiah's projects. No, the Church does not say that molesters are their messiahs, they are making this up to defend their pedophile worship process. And so they can attack Jesus as the leader of a pedophile messiahs club. No, Jesus did not start their pedophile messiahs club, nor did the Church, they did this on their own. There is no worship of pedophiles as messiahs in the Church, this is simply another one of their lies so they can attack Jesus.

    That is really good news -- for PADA. They always attack PADA, but they will also attack Jesus by saying his Church worships pedophiles as the messiahs of His Church. Yet Jesus never says pedophiles are the messiahs of His Church? That means me and Jesus are part of the same team -- we equally oppose them.

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  5. Correct JD. If anyone (ok like us) goes onto most ISKCON property and proclaims they want to promote the worship of the pure devotee -- and not their pedophile acharyas lineage, they will possibly be banned, removed, exiled, or sometimes beaten, or worse.

    Rambhoru / Prithu's GBC spent $20,000,000 suing Bangalore so they can try to get rid of hundreds of more Prabhupada devotees. Basically, they have used legal tricks to promote their pedophile messiah's worship process, just like the Gaudiya Matha spent vast amounts on legal fees to promote false acharyas there. Meanwhile they complain they cannot afford to send devotees to the hospital from Mayapur, due to lack of funds.

    Right, they only have millions of dollars on hand to buy new Mercedes for their lawyers, so they ban and legally block worship of the acharya, and promote their worship of illicit sex with men, women and children process. Anyone who worships their illicit sex guru lineage is welcomed, never mind it costs them a $400,000,000 child molesting lawsuit, $20,000,000 suing Prabhupada's worshipers, and who knows how many millions on bogus expenses for these elite fools etc. Money is no object when it comes to defending their pedophile messiah's worship program. Yes, disciples of Jayapataka wrote to me to complain that my helping lawsuits in USA and Bangalore has cost the GBC $100,00,000. Well no, they wanted to use legal tricks, and that was done by them and not me. I do not sign their check books.

    Now there is no money to send people to the hospital? Another bogus claim, whenever their gurus get sick they get the best hospitals on earth, there is just suddenly no money for the peons, that is the real point. Rambhouru and Prithu have dedicated their almost entire adult lives to promoting their pedophile messiah's program, and having us Prabhupada devotees banned, beaten and killed, and for sure Yamaraja has their number. No one is allowed to promote pedophile worship in Krishna's Kingdom, without then going to the bottom of the universe, but only after being punished severely on Yama's planet. Now she says they are listening, nope, we know many victims and they are never consulted, ever, and neither are we. They don't listen and never have.

    "A disciple of Kali cannot become an ācārya by the decision of some high-court. Mundane votes have no jurisdiction to elect a Vaiṣṇava ācārya. A Vaiṣṇava ācārya is self-effulgent, and there is no need for any court judgment. A false ācārya may try to override a Vaiṣṇava by a high-court decision, but Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura says that he is nothing but a disciple of Kali-yuga.". - (CC Madhya 1.220,P)

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  6. V Dasa: ALL THOSE 'RURU'S' IMPLANTED BY CIA. All demoniac Satanists who took part in Satanic Ritual Abuse. Now we are fighting to get rid of the last of them for Srila Prabhupada! They destroyed Srila Prabhupada's Vaikuntha Children, destroyed Srila Prabhupadas' books, destroyed their God-family who stood up to them. Never arrested anyone who raped the children! Did not start Varnashram like Srila Prabhupada instructed! Did not send massive amounts of devotees out on Harinam during these trying times! Why would we want to follow these demons? They will not stop until we are destroyed??? LOL That is why we must destroy them!!!

    SLD: I believe Krsna has a plan. I pray “Gods will be done.” No bogus vyasasana, no bogus dunda, no amount of silk robes, or gold amluts with vrndavan dust ... is going to save these posers from their drastic karma. They have truly disgraced and offended Srila Prabhupada. Their enablers are just as bad.

    PADA: Yup! "Enablers are just as bad." Correct. A person just asked me, "What kind of people would say sexual predators and pedophiles are 'God's guru successors' -- in the first place? Wouldn't only the worst God hating people in the universe say that"? I replied, "Well yup. That is also why they say worship of Jesus is the bogus ritvik deviation, and we need to worship their pedophile messiah's guru process instead. And that is also why people like Prithu are infuriated and exploding with anger as soon as they find someone is not worshiping their pedophile messiah's process, and they want to worship Prabhupada. They self evidently wanted the children of ISKCON to worship their pedophile pals and not Prabhupada, it seems to be really that simple. So far no one has given us any better explanation in decades. There evidently is none. Don't expect any response from Rambhoru either ... she never responds to any of these points since 1978. She sold out to them a long time ago."

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  7. LD: Hah hah ... yes. When we ask them "what is a homosexual pedophile guru's parampara" ... they never answer us. But we all know! They will have to answer ... when they get to the court of Yamaraja ... that is completely right. That is why ... they might avoid the law of the state ... but they cannot never avoid the law of God.

    I am just soooooo absolutely glad ... not to be in their boots. I would totally HATE to be the one who has to answer Yamaraja ... when he asks, "Tell our court how your homosexual and pedophile 'chain of guru successors to Krishna' program is bona fide? Our court is really interested to know how you would like to explain ... your support of that guru line. Sorry we had the dogs bite you on the way over here ... but just go ahead ... please tell us." Hah hah. They won't get away with shuffling off these questions then. We all know where they are headed.

    Even any regular person knows where they are headed ... saying homosexual pedophiles are part of God's chain of guru parampara of successors is a one way ticket to hell ... so even they avoid saying that out of fear of hell. I think this is why Srila Prabhupada says ... sometimes the evil residents of hell come to planet earth ... to drag people back down there to join them. I believe that is what happened here.

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  8. PADA: Thanks for your question Bhakti ******. Yes first of all, Prithu and Rambhoru endorsed their 1978 ISKCON GBC's "gurus" and policy of having ISKCON children worship their illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs program. The result was many of these children were starved, beaten, abused, molested and then -- there was the growing suicide epidemic.

    They crammed their pedophile messiah's pooja program down the throats of little children very vociferously. Prithu (Peter Brinkman) has been a very strident promoter of his pedophile messiah project, and evidently he still is. Rambhouru is still promoting the big enabling apologists and managers of the pedophile messiah's club program like Anuttama, and disciples of Gopal Krishna, a "guru" who was voted into the pedophile messiah's club.

    Then, ISKCON was sued for $400,000,000 and declared bankrupted due to Prithu's policy that the little children have to worship his pedophile messiahs club members. In fact Prithu has said our idea of worship of pure devotees is "not found in our tradition" and that is why he wanted ISKCON's children to worship his pedophile pals instead. That is not God's tradition, it is Prithu's concocted tradition. And that is how people like Prithu bankrupted ISKCON.

    So the people who love to see a program of deviants if not pedophiles being worshiped as God's successors, which bankrupts their religion, will say that is "the tradition." They also had a "reform" in 1986 where they "reinstated" their favorite child beating master of the pedophile's process, and they voted in people like Prithu as the co-messiahs with his pedophile messiah's club friends. And they excommunicated Sulochan, who was complaining about their pedophile worship process, and so he was assassinated by their demonizing him.
    I would have been assassinated too, but the FBI saved my life by arresting their hit man. So the people who try to protest Prithu and Rambhouru's pedophile worship program, can be beaten and assassinated. That is why ISKCON went bankrupted, they eliminate the protest of their pedophile messiah's club.

    Now Rambhouru says we need to help the previous victims, but she is promoting having another wave of children worship her illicit sex with men, women and children guru program. So she is simply making another wave of victims who will eventually find out they are being exploited into a pedophile worshiping cult. She does not want to solve the first wave of victims problem, rather she is busy making a new wave of victims of her pedophile worshiping cult, by making another wave of children worship her illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs project. Those children will eventually realize they have been cheated and there will be a new wave of people resenting the religion. She is evidently proud that she made thousands of children resent the religion, now she wants to make a new wave that will also resent the religion. That is all this is about, and has been about since 1978.

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  9. M Dasi: Rambouru is simply ... a good business person. She sends children off to the slaughterhouse of GBC gurus ... knowing all the time it is a slaughterhouse for children. Then ... she cleverly sets up a business of making therapy programs ... for her victims. Makes her own victims ... to run in and save her own victims.

    [PADA: Yes is does seem as though Prithu and Rambouru have been making a commercial enterprise of (A) sending children off to slaughter, then (B) coming to the rescue of a few of them like the hero. No one seems to notice -- she and Prithu are big senior persons helping send these little children off to the slaughterhouse from square one -- their being senior hand maidens of the molester messiahs project.

    M Dasi is really an aware person -- she can spot a person who is ruining children's lives self evidently on purpose -- only to then make a career of "counseling" her own victims. This is a child molesting business -- and has been all along.

    Sulochan said they are tossing children into a wood chipper, which is why Rambouru's child molesting business had to have him assassinated, he is bad for their molesting / counseling business. It is hard to imagine someone would make a business out of sending children to slaughter and then making pretend to be their karuna care savior, M. Dasi is right, this is simply a business.

    Yes, let me send children into the wood chipper -- so I can make pretend to be the hero saving them -- after I have helped orchestrate them being all chopped up from square one. M. Dasi has their whole operation pegged. Of course -- so did Sulochan -- which is why their regime kills people who oppose their children wood chipper enterprise -- and then make pretend they have no idea how all this problem started.

    M Dasi is right. It is a child wood chipper guru business -- which is why Sri Isopanisad says -- after their guru business is finished -- they are sent to the most obnoxious places in the universe. That is clearly where they belong. ys pd

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  10. LW: This is a perfect business arrangement. I agree. They get to be big leaders ... pushing little children into their bogus guru situation (a wood chipper?). Then ... they get to be big leaders in helping their trauma-ized and chopped up victims ... same victims that they crammed into the wood chipper.

    They are making a profit at every step. So that is called ... making a profit over other people's misery. They cause the misery ... by cramming a pedophile guru situation onto the children. Then they make a bogus and pretend trauma program to fix the misery ... they caused.

    It is all about making a profitable position for themselves ... so they can cash in. This is a perfect business arrangement. At the same time ... I know ex-children who never got proper food and supplies when they were there ... and there is zero arrangement for them when they left there. There is no good business arrangement for these victims ... only for the perps and these enablers.

    They cash in and make a profit ... standing on the skulls of these poor children. These people I would say are pathetic ... but that would be too kind. They are purely evil beings. I would not trust them to look after the Barbie doll in my junk pile in the garage.

    This whole trauma thing is another way of trying to appease the victims. They want to tamp down complaints over their system ... with this bogus trauma help program. It is simply more cover up for their crimes and their criminals. Keep the victims quiet ... by a bogus trauma help program. It is simply another cover up program ... so they can keep their pedophile guru program afloat. They are falling apart at this stage ... I see more people really angry and opposing them ... and it is growing. I am angry myself just seeing how they are now simply making another cover up system ... and not doing anything really practical for the victims ... who got squat diddley nothing their whole lives.

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  11. BCD: Very typical of ISKCON. Same identical people who generate problems ... are here now "saving us" from the problems. It is just recycling same old ... "good ole boys" ... people around. And around.
    Same people ... over and over and over. Recycling into different positions ... but it is always the same people. Nothing ever changes.

    They said bogus people are part of their guru parampara all along ... they say the same thing now. They gave almost nothing to the gurukulis in 1978 ... they give them almost nothing now. One friend told me ... even if they gave us ISKCON now ... lock, stock, burnt up and bankrupted ... it is so badly ruined ... we would be picking up the pieces for the next 50 years. They don't even have anything of hardly any value to give us ... even if they wanted to.

    But they will never give us anything anyway ... they only give away fancy positions ... perks and bonuses ... to their enabling people ... like Prithu and Rambhouru. Anyone who has been loyal to their bogus guru's parampara gets a piece of the action ... and no one else. It is a business.

    So that means ... if we also want something ... we have to join their bogus parampara cult. Otherwise ... we get jack sh*t. They only have goodies to hand out to the corrupt ... and their enablers. That is really a smack in the head. We gave you a molester guru parampara ... now we are going to give you "therapy for the trauma" of our bogus parampara ... but the bogus parampara stays ... and if you do not accept it ... you have to go. That is what they said all along.

    They have been singing the same song forever ... so she is cheating people into thinking something has changed. That is their idea of karuna ... worship our molesting guru parampara ... or get smacked in a** as we boot you out the door. Same thing they said the whole time. That is their karuna ... we get kicked in the a** ... and we have to accept their boots on our a** ... as the mercy of God. That is why there is trauma in the first place ...

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