Friday, April 30, 2021

Patita Uddharana Wants His Article "Taken Down" (ISKCON)

 Patita Uddharana Wants His Article "Taken Down" 

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2021/04/patita-uddharana-das-writes-leaving.html

PADA: Yes, he is thinking his article will: put him in the limelight; make him look bad in the devotee public; he will be criticized; he will offend someone etc. The article was meant as "reflection only," and was not meant for public consumption, whatever that means. 

So this has been a big problem, especially if we multiply this effect by thousands and thousands of Srila Prabhupada disciples -- who never said much in public arenas, much less wrote anything about anything publicly. They just let the GBC's version of events win by default without them protesting.  

Notice: If Srila Prabhupada's, ISKCON's and Krishna's names "look bad in public," so what who cares? "My name" cannot look bad and be in the negative limelight, but if Krishna's name is cast in a negative limelight -- who gives a hoot? Yup, that has been problem number one. A devotee of Krishna is supposed to defend the name of Krishna, or guess what -- he is not really a devotee of Krishna.

Krishna's name can be dragged into the mud of all sorts of public media scandals, court cases, police raids, and who knows what else. And if "Krishna's children" of ISKCON are being molested, we cannot report that to the police because then -- we will look bad. OK really, we do not care enough about Krishna's children to take action to protect them. 

We care more about ourselves, and making false propaganda and illusory images of ourselves and our Church. To the peril of the children. And ex-children have told me that -- they (leaders and many parents) have been more worried about themselves -- and their own looking bad -- than being worried about us, their own children. In sum, they are worried about themselves and their own image mainly, even if the image of themselves is simply a phantasmagoria illusion. "We are great devotees of God, which is why we are allowing His church to fall into the sewer." 

Ummm, but if we allow mass molesting to go on left, right and center, then the inevitable suicides of victims and mass molesting lawsuits will not make us look bad? How is that going to work? No, Krishna's name, Krishna's movement, Krishna's kids, these have to be protected or else -- we are not actually His devotees.

That will not only make us look bad, but also Krishna look bad, because we are supposed to be His agents. Bad, but also diabolically bad.

So that reminds me of the story I have told a number of times. A devotee was chastising me for trying to take action against the evils growing in ISKCON by his telling me -- I do not have faith in Krishna. Don't you know? Krishna is going to take care of all this. Just then, his child ran in the door with a big dog stools stuck on his shoes, which was being dragged into the carpet. This devotee started screaming at the child, get back outside!

But wait? I said prabhu, you have no faith in Krishna? He is going to be driving up here soon with His carpet cleaning truck to clean your carpet. You need to have faith! Same thing happened another time when me and another "Krishna will do everything" devotee were going down the freeway in the rain, and his front tire blew out. He pulled over cursing. He was also telling me Krishna would fix things, but evidently Krishna was not on hand to fix his flat tire? So we want Krishna to fix everything in His house, but we carefully take care of our own house? 

So it is a test. Krishna wants to see, are we going to clean up His Gundica Mandir, or are we going to sit back, drink a lassi while watching football on TV, and let Him clean up His own temple? So it seems evident to me, most people are more worried about their own house than Krishna's house. And worried about their own name being sullied, but not Krishna's etc.

Patita Uddharana is a prime example of how this process has gone on, and how it has had devastating consequences for Krishna's religion. I do not want my name cast in a bad limelight, but if Srila Prabhupada's, ISKCON's and Krishna's name are dragged into the mud, so what? Not my problem. 

OK you failed the first test. Do you want to serve Krishna, or serve -- "me, myself and I" -- and "my good name" etc.? Anyway, by allowing all this contamination to enter your religion, you ended up looking bad -- if not compromised with an illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's cult -- anyway. You failed to save anything, including your own good name. Your religion went down, and you who are compromisers went down with the ship. 

And there will be much future karma in store for people who do that. "My article was only for reflection" and not public. Well if you want to know how Krishna's name got to be badly reflected in public, go look in a mirror and see who compromised with the people who gave Krishna a bad name. ys pd 


4 comments:

  1. PADA: It is actually very simple. In 1979 I told the GBC we cannot worship Jayatirtha as the acharya -- because he is having illicit sex with a follower (which Srila Prabhupada says is like a father having sex with his daughter), and he is taking drugs, and he is offering LSD to the shalgram etc.

    The gang of four gurus said to me, acharyas are sometimes deviated like this -- and we just have to accept. And then they kicked me out for objecting. OK, however the whole principle is -- we become what we worship. If we worship sexual predators and deviants, we will have a society over run with sexual predators and deviants, that is what I said at the time, and it has come to pass.

    Patita Uddharana was still propping up Kirtanananda in 1985, he was promoting the worship of a homosexual pedophile and we were objecting at the time. He was opposing our efforts to clean this up. He wanted the corruption to stay, and us to leave. ys pd

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  2. MD: This fellow Patita Uddharana das is a well known anti Prabhupadanuga / ritvik dude - see his "Memories" series ranting there. The man is also a bogus Astrologer - getting ISKCON people to buy his work. Another money hungry "Prabhupada man" just after Prabhupada's money.

    They have to say that worship of the pure devotee is the bogus ritvik idea - so they can sucker ignorant followers of GBC gurus into their bogus astrology scheme. I agree ... if he knew actual future - he never would participate along with GBC gurus.

    Because it ruined ISKCON - and it is going to ruin his own future life. He will have to account for betraying his spiritual master and calling Prabhupada a bogus ritvik deviant because he did not appoint their illicit sex guru program. Hare Krsna!

    [PADA: Yes, Sulochana said that the God brothers who promote the GBC's gurus are not advanced enough to promote the worship of a bag of dog stools. Why? A bag of dogs stools will not ban, beat, molest, sue and kill the Lord's Vaishnavas. That means, a bag of stools is way too advanced for them to promote for us to worship. In fact Sulochana said -- worship of a bag of dog stools is so advanced -- they cannot even imagine how advanced it is!!!

    The good news is -- one day they will find a nice bag of dog stools to worship -- and they will make great progress -- but it will take them many lifetimes to become that advanced, maybe hundreds of thousands. Sulochana really had them pegged -- so it would seem ... ys pd]

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  3. LW: Reason most devotees do not write anything ... you already said on PADA awhile back. That would identify ... they were at the scene of a number of crimes. With no explanation ... what were they doing there. And what were they doing about the "troubles" going on at the time.

    Maybe some of them were cheering when Sulochana was murdered. Maybe some of them helped cover for molesting. Maybe even ... their own kid was molested ... and they did not go to the police. Or maybe ... they just moved back to live with mom and dad and started working at the 7-11 selling beer. Overall ... most do not want to have their story heard. For good reason.

    Patita Uddharana says he knew the whole thing went "off the rails" by 1981. But he came to get people to pray for Kirtanananda recovery in 1985. That means he has not been praying for you to win ... he has been praying for them to win. That means he was still with them ... knowing it is off the rails ... maybe so he could sell them more bogus astrology jobs ... and siphon from the ISKCON people. Good business opportunity.

    He still is with them ... because he is working with them even now. And he is against people worshiping Prabhupada aka the ritvik system. So we still have to worship bogus conditioned souls ... and he is ranting against worship of the pure devotee. He is not only working with them ... he is them. Indradyumna had a photo gallery of little girls in bikinis ... allegedly he took at the beach ... at least I think so ... but it was deleted or something like that.

    It is odd that he is considered as ISKCON's pure devotee ... that means he went along with the whole false guru parade of the GBC. How does that rate a person to be pure ... when he is the enabler of the whole bogus show. Patita Uddharana had a tinge of consciousness ... so he wanted to say something ... but he had to clam up when he realized it was bad for his bogus astrology business. He is a cheater and that is why he is attracted to the other cheaters.

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  4. GD: I think they always argue "we did not know all this was going on." That is what they always tell me. What do we say to them?

    [PADA: A news lady recorded film footage of Kirtanananda sitting on a big golden seat covered with the hands of dozens of little boys and she told me "this is pedophile heaven" as she showed me the film. So Kirtanananda's deviations were immediately understood even by the ordinary news people. Yet Patita Uddharana goes to the Berkeley temple to pray for Kirtanananda's program to continue. How come he did not know this is "pedophile heaven" when any ordinary person knew right away?

    I believe he and others wanted to use ISKCON as their business, maybe his astrology business. And so he had to agree to the other guys like Kirtanananda -- to get his foot into the door for his business. They wanted to exploit the society as their personal cash cow, and it looks like he still is -- because he hangs out with other leaders of the pedophile heaven program like Indradyumna -- who has many complaints of being overly affectionate to little girls himself. So how can they say they did not know, if even ordinary news people knew right away?

    And Patita Uddharana's pal Hansadutta saw the same things as the news lady because he was visiting there, and yet he told everyone "Kirtanananda is the only pure devotee on the planet." So he too always wanted his people to worship their pedophile heaven process, and in fact he wanted the whole world to worship his pedophile pooja process. How can any ordinary man or woman see the problem, and they can not? Because they are motivated to also exploit the situation, and they did.

    Anyway! By 1980 there was already: Jayatirtha fall down well known; police raids on Berkeley temple and farm; illegal gun business busted; Laguna temple busted; publicity over New Vrndavana using minor aged drug mules; Ramesvara resigned in June 1980; GBC wanted to remove Tamal and Hansadutta; Federal courts sued ISKCON for fraud in 1980; Kirtanananda criticized for child molesting in New Vrndavana (and the complaintant was murdered later) and so on and so forth. How did they not know? And how can they not know -- by now? And why would they still say worship of the pure devotee is bogus, because we need to prop up the pedophile heaven program's leaders -- even now? Sorry, they knew a lot, and that is why they avoided us and got into the same bed as the pedophile heaven program's leaders. And they still avoid us and hang out there ... And because they hang out with the pedophile heaven leaders -- they probably know more than we do -- they are hanging out at the scene of the crime. ys pd

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