[PADA: OK really not sure what happened here. It appears that some of the former "ritviks" ran off to worship "His Divine Grace Mahamandaleshwar Mahant Krsna Balaram Swami." In any battle, one might win some ground, one might lose some ground. It is what happens. Not sure how this can be solved with some sort of legal recourse, unless some assets were taken. Basically the people who stop worship of the pure devotee in order to start to worship the pure devotee wanna-be sector are misguided and unfortunate.
As for his "divine nomenclature" "Mahamandaleshwar" title -- jeepers -- I am so humble that I am simply the Isvara (controller) of the Mahamandala (the entire universe). Seriously folks? And Bhakti Tirtha swami was calling himself "Krishnapada." "My stinky old feet and Krishna's feet are on the same level"!
Yes as a matter of fact, I am equal to Krishna's padas. Any questions? Hee hee! So we can tell a lot about these folks simply from their gigantic grandiose titles -- which of course is the general problem of people with gigantic egos.
As for Krishna Kirtan das, the new advocate for the Krishna Balarama swami project, we already had some major run in with him in the past. He said for example that the Windle Turley child molesting lawsuit was terrible because its making ISKCON pay lots of money for evidently no good reason.
And we argued that our interest has little to do with "the money."
Rather, we were seeing that a number of ex-victims were depressed and turning to drugs, erratic behavior, self destructive behavior -- including suicides. So we wanted to help these victims, and the lawsuit did that to some extent, the suicides level dropped down to almost nil.
Yet Krishna Kirtana kept incessantly talking about -- "the money." He never once even mentions the suicide problem to me despite many exchanges asking him about it over and over. It just does not seem to register on some people how much suffering and even death they are causing to others by their negligence -- or worse, their attacking the people attempting to help the suffering.
The fire department comes to save the fire victims, and some of the people in the neighborhood attack -- the firemen. Very helpful dudes!
So these guys wanted to save their precious dollar bills, but not people? Money must be protected, that is our real interest, whereas people -- especially children -- can get tossed into a wood chipper and be destroyed and devoured wholesale. So that -- right there -- tells me a lot about the main folks in the Krishna Balarama swami process, there seems to be a lack of concern for other beings right out of the gate. Oh our own kids are suffering and dying, but who cares, what about our golden shekels? Sulochana called these people "shekel counters."
Did we forget to mention Krishna Balaram swami was saying the GBC gurukulas needed to be shut down in the early 1980s, but he seems to have done little to have changed that situation? He later said he was working with the GBC early on to instill a spirit of cooperation. Cooperation with what?
And later on Krishna Kirtan, Naranaryan das, Sanat, Mukunda, Prahlad das, HKC Jaipur folks, Janardan, Pancali etc all started complaining that by taking money from the GBC we are "destroying ISKCON." Wow, so ISKCON is defined as a place where: homosexual pedophiles are worshiped as messiahs; children are getting molested left, right and center; dissenters are being assassinated; the poisoners of pure devotees are worshiped as saints; and the books of the saint are being re-edited by bogus people. And victims are killing themselves -- seeing nothing positive on the entire horizon?
Why have these people been telling me this is "ISKCON"? Nope! This is "easy journey to the hellish planets," as one devotee told PADA. They keep thinking deviation of the worst order is ISKCON, and we should not oppose these deviants, and in fact they wanted to have PADA "removed from the internet."
Sorry this is a criminal cult, it is not ISKCON or "Srila Prabhupada's golden body" as some of them tried to say. So it is hard for me to have much sympathy for their group -- when Krishna Balarama swami says he knew about a lot of bad things going on -- even bad things going on in the gurukulas -- but he took no tangible action to fix that. And has taken no substantial action ever since.
Pedophiles are being buried in samadhi in the dham, is KB swami filing a criminal FIR against the GBC, or doing anything about this mess? Nothing that we know of.
And did we forget to mention Krishna Balaram swami says we Westerners cannot advance like him, an India born Brijabasi. Hee hee, well we were MANY years ahead of him in countering the bogus GBC's guru sabha. He is a Johnny come very lately to this issue. We also do not believe he is the "next guru successor to Krishna on the planet," rather we say anyone who thinks he is -- is a fool.
In any case, I am not really sure all what transpired here. If anyone can clue us in we'd like to know. ys pd] angel108b@yahoo.com
Institute for Pure Devotional Service
OFFICE of PUBLIC RELATIONS
Dear devotees and friends,
On September 13th 2020 Bhagavat Dharma Samaj’s Office of Public Relations received information about a REGISTERED LAWYER’S NOTICE sent from the law office of PRASAD & SUKUMAR ASSOCIATES, representing the ‘Ritvik’ organization called ‘Hare Krishna Movement Vishakapatnam’ affiliated with ISKCON Bangalore. Their legal notice was delivered to Bhagavat Dharma Samaj at the Sri Sri Radha Govinda Mandir (Red Stone Temple), 100 Feet Road, Raman Reti, Vrindavan, India.
We understood their notice to be an attempt to stop our Internet preaching efforts and to intimidate one of our successful preachers who used to render volunteer services to their organization, but who later found them to be spiritually incorrect and not benefitting to him and decided to join Bhagavat Dharma Samaj and follow the teachings of His Divine Grace Mahamandaleshwar Mahant Krsna Balaram Swami. Their legal notice was a bit surprising to us and did not seem legally appropriate either. Nevertheless, we thought we should respond accordingly and let our devotees and the world judge for themselves the injustice being committed against us.
No disconnected volunteer member of any organization anywhere should ever feel concerned, intimidated or afraid when wanting to distance himself/herself when he/she no longer feels connected to the organization. Article 19 of the Constitution of India guarantees to all its citizens the right to freedom of speech and expression, and this includes the right to express one’s views and opinions at any issue through any medium, e.g. by words of mouth, writing, printing, picture, film, movie etc. It thus includes the freedom of communication and the right to propagate or publish opinion.
Therefore we are always prepared to freely use our right to freedom of expression at any given moment or by any means we deem necessary in order to rightfully educate the public in the matter of pursuing authentic spiritual life. So we decided to take yet another opportunity to exercise such freedom of expression guaranteed by the Constitution of India and composed the following which was made part of our official legal response:
THE INCONTROVERTIBLE VERDICT OF THE VEDIC SCRIPTURES AND THE VAISHNAVA ACHARYAS ON WHO CAN BECOME GURU AND WHO CANNOT.
Our response is the following 12,000 words, composed in a comprehensive yet summarized manner, and presented in systematic sequence to make the subject easy and straightforward for anyone who wishes to explore the subject. It covers many important points that people over the years have had doubts about in connection to who can become Guru and who cannot, with added back history, quotes from the Vedic scriptures with comments by Vaishnava Acharyas, and much more.
We hope this document brings to light the evidence necessary to expose injustice and will also help those who are sincerely seeking authentic spiritual life to make well informed decisions for their benefit. We welcome you to read this important document and also take advantage of the information provided here. You can download the PDF (6 MB) here:
https://www.krsna.org/The_Incontrovertible_Verdict_2020.pdf
For any comments or questions please write to us anytime. We respond to all correspondence.
Thank you. Jay Sri Radhe!
Sincerely,
Krishna Kirtan
Bhagavat Dharma Samaj
Institute for Pure Devotional Service
Office of Public Relations.
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