PADA: There seems to be a lot of ex-ISKCON children running off to the Narayan Maharaja program. And some of them are going to the "Radhe Kunj" group (bhaktibandhav). OK wait a minute, isn't the leader of the Radhe Kunj group considered a fallen person -- by other members of the Narayan Maharaj group itself?
http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2020/06/pada-some-sort-of-scandal-is-brewing-in.html
Are we still having our children worship fallen persons as their acharyas? Or worse, are we putting more devotees in danger of being exploited sexually, psychologically, monetarily and so on?
So it does seem like this is simply another version of the same problem of ISKCON, false gurus are being worshiped. In some cases, the Narayan Maharaja "guru successors" are considered as deviants if not sexual predators. Another chewing the chewed, going back to the original problem ... promoting false gurus, or what?
This is really primarily the fault of the ISKCON parents. First, many of them told their children to worship GBC's bogus gurus. And then later, many of them told their children to worship Tamal's sexual predator messiah's program's number one bucket boy -- aka Narayan Maharaja.
In any case, it looks like the NM followers are not even aware of this problem? Oddly, the Narayan Maharaja people claim that NM's helping Tamal promote their homosexual pedophile "as good as God" guru successor lineage has been "nourishing ISKCON." Hee hee! Really? No, not kidding!
Our ISKCON children are being molested left, right and center, and Narayan Maharaja is is Dallas propping up Tamal, the leader of the molester's guru regime. And NM is giving "rasika classes" to many of the GBC's guru group, as they are orchestrating banning, beating, lawsuits, molesting and -- perhaps -- murders? That is nourishing ISKCON, or nourishing Satan? ys pd]
In this episode, we have a fantastic discussion with Rasik Mohan and Prem Pradip from Bhakta Bandhav, a society of disciples of Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayan Maharaj. We talk about their lives, their mission, and the relationship between ISKCON and Srila Narayana Maharaj.
[PADA: Good, but we are never going to ask the real question, why has Narayan Maharaja supported the GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara? A parampara that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas? And why do some of his own "guru successors" have reported sexual predator issues? And why are we always avoiding this topic?
Notice that they evidently think -- because Narayan Maharaja was helping Tamal establish the GBC's worship of homosexual pedophiles, deviants, sexual predators and porno swamis as "God's guru successors" -- NM was "helping nourish ISKCON." Yep, that is the surefire way to nourish your kids -- to get them to worship illicit sex with men, women and children as their messiahs.
That will save them! OK NOT! ys pd
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SD: Here our temple allows Narayan devotees to do deity pooja. Shows us ... they are really same side as GBC guru followers. Minor difference. Both sides support false gurus.
ReplyDeleteGopal Krishna followers are very open ... in support of Narayan Maharaja. Different sides ... same coin. At another temple they allow a husband ... but will not allow his wife ... until she renounces Narayan. She has to take a GBC guru. There is no real plan ... whatever the local people decide.
This is making marriages break down ... all over the place. The husband has one guru, the wife another guru. And one guru makes pressure on one partner and it causes a break up. This happens all over if you ask me. Then children are precarious position. Very bad society for children.
The guru of their Vrndavana program ... appears at least ... a lusty homosexual who likes young men. If true ... really means GBC guru program and NM guru program are ... almost identical. Same rotten root. And the victim has to suffer ... seeing the victimizer being worshiped.
Narayan Maharaja was always with the GBC gurus ... he was their best advertising. I think Srila Prabhupada says Gaudiya Matha guru is like a snake with a jewel on his head ... makes him more dangerous. GBC is wearing shining jewel of big sadhu Narayan Maharaja on their head. Makes them more dangerous ... if you ask me. Homosexual ... lusty ... and guru ... they just don't get it ... do they? And these children are from Srila Prabhupada disciples? Srila Prabhupada would never agree to worship homosexual gurus ... they are cheaters not disciples. And they cheated their own kids.
GK: Dear PADA, this is the problem since long ago, that devotees go to GM because there is food and shelter. There is hardly any other consideration. Prabhupada's point was to train ISKCON children as real Brahmanas who are not fooled by mundane job offers or pseudo spiritualists. Prabhupada wanted paka Brahmanas who rather starve than get into doggish jobs or spiritually being let down the wrong path. So somehow something must go very wrong about what's happening in these "Gurukulas" or at "home-schooling" places. As soon Gurukulis in Mayapur / Vrindavan are having completed their education run by "certified ISKCON teachers" they first of all let their hair grow at shoulder-length. Then they want to go to a US college and "learn how to make lots of cash". So it is difficult to understand what they actually learn mainly from Mataji teachers? They actually should be educated to expose Karmi billionaires and instruct these mudhas to donate farms. Rather the opposite is happening, Gurukulis going to university in order to work like an ass at big companies, hospitals and construction companies. Same of course why devotees join Narayana Swami's camp — there are buildings and food. And maybe the leaders are more friendly because they consider Western devotees as a chance to get money from the West.
ReplyDelete[PADA: Correct. The ISKCON gurukulas failed, because for starters they made fools into their acharyas for these children. And then Narayan Maharaj became the biggest cheer leader of the "fools for acharyas" program. And for some reason he was seen as an alternative, when he was actually one of the bogus guru's biggest supporters. The cheer leaders of pedophile guru programs are not an alternative to pedophile guru programs, that is simply common sense. So these guys in Badger and other places wanted some artificial society, friendship and love, some social beeja club. And now they have built a new society with the same problem, they also have bogus gurus in their own camp. That is because they never got rid of the original false guru beeja, they still have that root in their process. So they took their kids away from the GBC pedophile guru program and gave them the biggest cheer leader of the pedophile guru program instead, and they thought that is progress. Sri Isopanisad says false gurus, and their followers -- and self evidently their Narayan Maharaj hand maidens -- are destined for the most obnoxious regions. The butt sex guru regime and its hand maidens are all destined to go down, and their false society, friendship and love will not save them. NM was in Dallas shouting at our friends for rejecting their Tamal and GBC guru-ism, at the same time we were putting together a lawsuit to have them sued in Dallas. NM was shouting that we need to support the butt sex guru process of Tamal, and the Badger guys thought that is some divine wonderful program too, so they supported NM, the cheer leader of the Dallas molester messiah process that had to be sued for mass molesting. So now NM has to explain to Yamaraja -- what is his butt sex child molesting guru program in the first place, and why was he the main cheer leader of that process? He gets to share in the karma of what he promoted and supported, that is all in shastra. Attacking children is the worst karma imaginable, and he is the cheer leader of the children attacker program. And some fools think that children attackers are gurus, which is why they will potentially have that program in their own camp, they have the same beeja. ys pd]