GGD: Then seek out dedicated devotees who do not gossip and only look for faults, avoid such devotees like you avoid poison. Dedicated devotees are hard to find but can name some I know like Sevananda Dasa ACBSP, Bhrigupati Dasa ACBSP.
Look for those who repeat scripture and NOT the faults in ISKCON.
[PADA: OK here we go again, Krishna's successor acharyas are generally defective, faulty, mundane men, full of faults. And in fact acharyas are often illicit sex debauchees. How do we know this? We cite shastra. What shastra? The Devil's Bible, what else? Hee hee! Notice that Sevananda and Bhrigupati are mentioned, but are not really advertised as the big acharyas of ISKCON. We cannot even find one of their acharyas worth honorable notice?
An acharya is supposed to be a TATTVA DARSI, a guru, i.e. a person who has seen the truth and is therefore -- one who knows God personally. However in the Gaura Gopal parampara, their TATTVA DARSI gurus are falling into illicit sex, drugs, criminal activity and so forth. So the guru is a TATTVA DARSI, he sees God constantly, and he is thus simultaneously a falling down degraded soul. And this is REPEATING SCRIPTURE? What scripture says God's successors are often debauchees?
OK that means they have not read the ACTUAL shastra where it says, anyone who claims acharyas are faulty and mundane men are RESIDENTS OF HELL (Narakah sah). The Gaura Gopal sampradaya says God's successor acharyas are in fact, illicit sex with men, women and children deviants, sexual predators, criminals and so forth. And this is stated in -- shastra? Nope! These people have no clue what is stated in shastra. Of course, not really rocket science here, the average Joe six pack guy on the street knows deviants are not, and were not EVER God's successors.]
Associate with devotees who strictly chant 16 rounds a day and reads Prabhupada's Books every day And most important of all, be kind and merciful to the fallen, and NEVER taking pleasure in hearing about their fall downs to condemn them.
[PADA: OK, so when the ISKCON GBC's false acharyas are falling down left, right and center -- no one should bother explaining to the innocent public that these bogus people who are falling down are NOT God's successors and acharyas. If we find some drunken womanizer claiming to be as good as Jesus, we should fall down at his feet, and promote worship of that person to others ourselves -- to mislead the public?
Nope!
We should allow the misconception that God's successor acharyas are often deviants, sexual predators, drunkards and fallen beings -- to be allowed, and we should not defend the parampara as pure?
Nope!
We should "be merciful" to these fallen acharyas, and let them exploit ISKCON by artificially posing as messiahs and taking advantage of the financial resources of the society, if not having sexual exploiting going on as a side benefit. However, we should never "be merciful" to the people who want to worship Srila Prabhupada, those people should be banned, beaten, sued and assassinated! No mercy for them?
Nope!]
No, devotees represent Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu who is the deliver of the most fallen so NEVER waste time gossiping. Seek out humble caring merciful yet strict devotee and avoid pretenders masquerading as devotees. I blocked PADA years ago because his gossip is poison. Gaura Gopala Dasa
[PADA: Saying that acharyas are not deviants is "gossip"? Or isn't that what shastra says. Is shastra -- gossip? Good point here: We have to avoid pretenders masquerading as devotees. Bad point here! We cannot warn others to avoid same. We should allow others to follow the blind, and fall into a ditch.
Still cannot figure out why we should allow the innocent to fall into the GBC's false propaganda program of saying conditioned souls are God's successors. Meanwhile, more of the GBC temples are allowing Hindu programs to take over on their property. We should not criticize the Hindu-ization of ISKCON, when Srila Prabhupada did that regularly.
So this is pretty amazing, as soon as we say (A) Deviants are not acharyas, (B) Srila Prabhupada's books should not be edited, (C) Banning, beating, molesting, suing and assassinating Vaishnavas is a severe offense, (D) Child molester gurus and their webs and nests infrastructure is bogus, (E) Srila Prabhupada complained of being poisoned, and so on ... we are speaking poison, and the defenders of this process are speaking the truth.
They are they tattva darsi sector. Really? As one ex-gurukuli reports to PADA, he has to avoid all these people to SAVE HIS OWN SOUL, because these people are DESTROYING the soul's of others, as they destroyed so many of this kuli's associates and friends. Yep, killers of the soul, as is mentioned in the Sri Isopanisad. But, heaven forbid we warn others to avoid these killers of the soul? OK then you are implicated in aiding and abetting. Anyway, not too worried here, there are alway people preaching that Krishna is a debauchee and so are His acharyas, this is nothing new.
Meanwhile, we are glad ISKCON is getting various people interested in a general way, then they can eventually find our stuff, and many are.
ys pd]
[PADA: OK here we go again, Krishna's successor acharyas are generally defective, faulty, mundane men, full of faults. And in fact acharyas are often illicit sex debauchees. How do we know this? We cite shastra. What shastra? The Devil's Bible, what else? Hee hee! Notice that Sevananda and Bhrigupati are mentioned, but are not really advertised as the big acharyas of ISKCON. We cannot even find one of their acharyas worth honorable notice?
An acharya is supposed to be a TATTVA DARSI, a guru, i.e. a person who has seen the truth and is therefore -- one who knows God personally. However in the Gaura Gopal parampara, their TATTVA DARSI gurus are falling into illicit sex, drugs, criminal activity and so forth. So the guru is a TATTVA DARSI, he sees God constantly, and he is thus simultaneously a falling down degraded soul. And this is REPEATING SCRIPTURE? What scripture says God's successors are often debauchees?
OK that means they have not read the ACTUAL shastra where it says, anyone who claims acharyas are faulty and mundane men are RESIDENTS OF HELL (Narakah sah). The Gaura Gopal sampradaya says God's successor acharyas are in fact, illicit sex with men, women and children deviants, sexual predators, criminals and so forth. And this is stated in -- shastra? Nope! These people have no clue what is stated in shastra. Of course, not really rocket science here, the average Joe six pack guy on the street knows deviants are not, and were not EVER God's successors.]
Associate with devotees who strictly chant 16 rounds a day and reads Prabhupada's Books every day And most important of all, be kind and merciful to the fallen, and NEVER taking pleasure in hearing about their fall downs to condemn them.
[PADA: OK, so when the ISKCON GBC's false acharyas are falling down left, right and center -- no one should bother explaining to the innocent public that these bogus people who are falling down are NOT God's successors and acharyas. If we find some drunken womanizer claiming to be as good as Jesus, we should fall down at his feet, and promote worship of that person to others ourselves -- to mislead the public?
Nope!
We should allow the misconception that God's successor acharyas are often deviants, sexual predators, drunkards and fallen beings -- to be allowed, and we should not defend the parampara as pure?
Nope!
We should "be merciful" to these fallen acharyas, and let them exploit ISKCON by artificially posing as messiahs and taking advantage of the financial resources of the society, if not having sexual exploiting going on as a side benefit. However, we should never "be merciful" to the people who want to worship Srila Prabhupada, those people should be banned, beaten, sued and assassinated! No mercy for them?
Nope!]
No, devotees represent Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu who is the deliver of the most fallen so NEVER waste time gossiping. Seek out humble caring merciful yet strict devotee and avoid pretenders masquerading as devotees. I blocked PADA years ago because his gossip is poison. Gaura Gopala Dasa
[PADA: Saying that acharyas are not deviants is "gossip"? Or isn't that what shastra says. Is shastra -- gossip? Good point here: We have to avoid pretenders masquerading as devotees. Bad point here! We cannot warn others to avoid same. We should allow others to follow the blind, and fall into a ditch.
Still cannot figure out why we should allow the innocent to fall into the GBC's false propaganda program of saying conditioned souls are God's successors. Meanwhile, more of the GBC temples are allowing Hindu programs to take over on their property. We should not criticize the Hindu-ization of ISKCON, when Srila Prabhupada did that regularly.
So this is pretty amazing, as soon as we say (A) Deviants are not acharyas, (B) Srila Prabhupada's books should not be edited, (C) Banning, beating, molesting, suing and assassinating Vaishnavas is a severe offense, (D) Child molester gurus and their webs and nests infrastructure is bogus, (E) Srila Prabhupada complained of being poisoned, and so on ... we are speaking poison, and the defenders of this process are speaking the truth.
They are they tattva darsi sector. Really? As one ex-gurukuli reports to PADA, he has to avoid all these people to SAVE HIS OWN SOUL, because these people are DESTROYING the soul's of others, as they destroyed so many of this kuli's associates and friends. Yep, killers of the soul, as is mentioned in the Sri Isopanisad. But, heaven forbid we warn others to avoid these killers of the soul? OK then you are implicated in aiding and abetting. Anyway, not too worried here, there are alway people preaching that Krishna is a debauchee and so are His acharyas, this is nothing new.
Meanwhile, we are glad ISKCON is getting various people interested in a general way, then they can eventually find our stuff, and many are.
ys pd]
PS: Taking karma is not for neophytes.
Pretty sure this NZ Gaura Gopal is not the disciple of Radhanath who makes all the new age videos. I think the New Zealand one is different from this guy. And someone else wrote to say, "Why is it that so many 'big book distributors' self evidently never read the books? How could they read the books and not know that degraded people are not ever Krishna's guru successors? They never read the books themselves, that is the whole problem." Well yup! ys pd
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