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Ys,
Psychic answers to questions regarding Srila Prabhupada's poisoning
Dear devotees,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
A couple of years ago I sent one report to Nityananda prabhu. I have seen it in my files again and thought you may be interested to see it also.
It's answers and questions that I got from a Prabhupadanuga devotee ***** dd (I had forwarded her the questions that I compiled). She traveled to one mataji ******, who is said to be a strong psychic. ***** dd had known her from before and even once took her from Russia to India.
***** is not a full on devotee, she barely knows anything about Hare Krishna movement, she didn't know anything about the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada. I made a research that showed that even government investigative agencies employ efficient psychics to better understand crime scenes, whereabouts of some hard proofs, etc. Off course, it's not 100%, and they admit it. But if the psychic is actually very able, he/she can tell valuable info. So I thought maybe we can try to use the same method.
Here is the questions and answers regarding Srila Prabhupada's poisoning and ISKCON coup in the 1970s (abbreviated):
1. POISONING OF SRILA PRABHUPADA’S BODY
Q: Were arsenic and cadmium in different poisons that were given to Srila Prabhupada at different times?
A: Yes, during a long period of time.
Q: Were there other poisoning elements in the poison?
A: Yes.
Q: Which ones exactly?
A: Black powder.
Q: Is it correct to understand that Srila Prabhupada’s health crisis in July 1976 was a result of poisoning during his visit to New York in July 1976 (July 9 - 20)?
A: Yes.
Q: In what form the poison was given to Srila Prabhupada (through poisoned food, drink, tooth powder, personal items, etc.)?
Beverage, food, sweets – so that it can be unnoticed. The milk was poisoned with white powder. The food – with something like spice.
Q: Was it done consciously, specifically for poisoning purposes?
A: Yes.
Q: Was the cadmium the key element of this poison?
A: Cadmium helped to accelerate. There was another poison.
Q: Did it contain arsenic?
A: Yes, it was there, but there was also something else, like "sulema" [the dictionary says it means mercury chloride in Russian].
PADA: In short, various heavy metal poisons. Srila Prabhupada himself said he has the symptoms of a person being poisoned. And Dr. Vanamali said that Srila Prabhupada's urine sample had elements that are similar to heavy metal poisons.
Q: Was the 1976 poisoning the beginning of periodic poisoning of the body of Srila Prabhupada which led to the death of his body? If not, when exactly the periodic poisoning of the body Srila Prabhupada began: even earlier in 1975? Or in 1976?
A: Since 1974. But it was intensified half a year before 1977 [since July 1976]. The poisoner didn’t always had access to the food. One of the disciples. Out of 5.
Q: Was Indian yogi, tantric and ayurvedic doctor Chandra Swami involved in attempts to poison the body of Srila Prabhupada?
A: He advised how to do it.
Q: If yes, in which role was he involved in the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada?
A: Conducted rites and gave medicines.
Q: To whom he provided the poison? To Tamala Krishna (Thomas Herzig)?
A: Yes.
Q: In 1975? In 1976? In 1977?
A: During all the years. It was tested whether he would sustain it or not.
Q: Who was the direct organizer and who was the performer of the poisoning?
A: "One who wanted to sit on my throne."
Questions from the book "Kill Guru Become Guru":
Q: Where was the cadmium obtained for the poisoning?
A: From a supposed healer.
Q: How was the poison given to Srila Prabhupada, and who taught the poisoners how to use it?
A: The food and beverages. Two different powders. The dark one was used at rice with spices, scentless and colorless. The white powder was added to sweet milk.
Q: When did the poisoning start, and at what times was it given thereafter?
A: Since 1974.
Q: What Channdra Swami was doing at the building of ISKCON temple in New York in 1976? Is it true that he stayed to sleep there?
A: Yes.
Q: Did he meet there with Tamala-Krishna Goswami personally? If not, were there personal meetings between them at some other time and place?
Q: Yes.
Q: If so, where and when they started, how many meetings were there, did any of these meetings relate to the conspiracy against Srila Prabhupada?
A: Several meetings, and during the talk there were accusations.
Q: Were these meetings closely related to the CIA or some other special services?
A: Not CIA. Perhaps Illuminati or some shadow organization.
Q: Are there any witnesses of their personal contact?
A: One disciple. He didn’t let anyone to come in.
Q: Were these meetings related to the conspiracy against Srila Prabhupada, to his poisoning?
A: Yes.
Q: Were these meetings closely related to the CIA or some other special services?
A: Shadow organization.
Q: Was there the incident when Chandra Swami alone went out of Srila Prabhupada’s rooms in New York ISKCON Temple in 1976? If so, what was Chandra Swami doing in Srila Prabhupada’s rooms? Did he try to poison the personal things of Srila Prabhupada?
A: Added to something Srila Prabhupada used to inhale. Flowers.
Q: If yes, did the poison contain cadmium? It was the key poisonous element?
A: It was another poison.
Q: How did he find out where Srila Prabhupada’s rooms were located?
A: He just knew it.
Q: The makaradhvaja medicine that was arranged for Srila Prabhupada in October 1977 by Chandra Swami and donated by him – was it poisoned?
A: It was made properly, but then the poison was added.
Q: Where exactly are the remaining doses of the makaradhavaja medicine? Are they in Vrndavana?
A: Yes.
Q: Who are keeping them and where? Was this medical powder poisoned? If yes, then what kind of poisonous element did contain: cadmium, arsenic, or some other?
A: Not just one single element.
Q: Did one of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples -- Satadhanya Das / Satadhanya Swami / Stanley Federoff played some role in the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada?
A: Yes.
Q: Was Prithu Putra Swami / Patrick Geoffrois, who was repeatedly seen in the presence of Srila Prabhupada in 1976-77, involved in the poisoning?
A: No.
Q: Does Jayapataka Swami know about the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada especially information which is not publicly known at the moment?
A: Yes.
Q: Who first told Srila Prabhupada about poisoning that he mentioned on November 9, 1977?
A: Disciple.
Q: When this informant reported this to Srila Prabhupada: in November 1977? What’s the date? In October 1977? What’s the date?
A: In some date during the twenties of October. The poisoning first began in spring of 1974, it was at a big festival [Gaura Purnima?].
Q: Why did Srila Prabhupada first announce about his poisoning during a guest’s visit?
A: Because he knew that the guest, unlike the disciples, will make it publicly known.
Q: What happened on November 11, 1977 at Srila Prabhupada’s house in Vrindaban at the time of whispering "Is the poison in the milk? – Uh oh", "The poison’s going down"? What kind of poison it was, was it really in the milk? Who prepared it and put it there? What were the main poisoning substances in it: some cadmium compound? Other heavy metals or another chemical elements?
A: Another composition: 3 poisons.
Q: What were the roles that the main suspects played in this poisoning: Tamal Krishna, Bhakti-Charu, Bhavananda, and Jayapataka?
A: There was a fifth, superior to them.
Q: Was cadmium / its compound the key element of the poison?
A: Yes, it bolstered the destruction on that day.
Q: Which elements besides cadmium were parts of the poison given to Srila Prabhupada in 1977?
A: 3 different kinds. Arsenic, "sulema" [mercury chloride]. But when they saw it doesn’t act as hoped they used to add more. Why no one included the question: "Why nobody tried to taste / eat the food given to Srila Prabhupada?" Srila Prabhupada replies they would quickly die, therefore, although he knew of poisoning, he didn’t let anyone else eat it.
Q: And was the poison’s composition the same during the entire period of poisoning? Or were different poisons used? Which ones?
A: There were different poisons. Gradually they increased the poisoning. Mainly with rice and sauces.
Q: Who currently possess Srila Prabhupada’s hair or nails cut during 1976-77?
A: At the temple in Vrindavan.
Q: Is Srila Prabhupada’s body on this photograph, taken on September 6, 1977 in London, poisoned? Dark sun glasses in the room (eyes problem that wasn’t observed during previous years) and swollen hands – is this a result of poisoning?
A: Yes. The liver is affected.
Q: Who received Srila Prabhupada’s Death Certificate in Mathura on February, 1978? Was it Tamal-Krishna Goswami? Or his representative / accomplice?
A: Accomplice.
Q: The registered cause of death was "Heart Attack" – was it false?
A: False diagnosis, the main affected organ was liver. Srila Prabhupada himself stopped his heart.
Q: If yes, who introduced this diagnosis: the official who signed this certificate, or the unknown person(s) that went to Mathura and received Srila Prabhupada Death Certificate? What was the reason to choose this diagnosis?
A: Since he was old this was the best conclusion. The official didn’t write himself, he was told to write this.
Q: Who were those "two devotees" who brought the urine sample to Bonamali’s clinic in Vrindaban on 27 or 28 October, 1977? Did they report the information regarding Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning to Tamal Krishna (or someone else) after they returned to the temple, and how did he react, what did he say, what did he do?
Where is the formula of the antidote for Srila Prabhupada compiled by three kavirajas (and recorded by Damodar Prasad Sharma) in the beginning of November 1977, as was told by Dr. Narotam Lal Gupta? Was that one document or two or more? Where are they now, have they survived to this day?
Is that assistant of Damodar Prasad Sharma from Vrindaban Rangaji temple is still alive, (being a young kaviraja at that time he probably helped him collect ingredients for the antidote)? Where is he currently? Does this person have any valuable information regarding the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada?
A: Those who were connected -- all of them have died. The urine was given back to the disciples. It indicated poisoning. That young kaviraja is no more present.
Q: Will the exhumation of Srila Prabhupada’s body (placed in the mausoleum / samadhi at Krishna-Balarama temple in Vrindaban) end the debate on whether he was poisoned or not?
A: It won’t.
Q: Who among the locals of Vrindaban currently has correct information about who poisoned Srila Prabhupada?
A: No one is present. There is some manuscript or dictation, everything is there. It’s in America. The one who made it is Indian, who is in the USA. He is Indian. Those who collect information should search for the dictophone [note: is this actually dictophone or audio recording? Not clear to me but I have translated exactly as it is] and it’s also in paper form.
Q: Is Srila Prabhupada’s tooth that is now at the tomb of Tamal-Krishna Goswami in Mayapur (West Bengal, India) a valuable evidence that can confirm the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada’s body.
A: It can confirm. Exhumation [of Srila Prabhupada?] won’t be allowed by Srila Prabhupada.
Q: Why there was such a persistent search after the two cassettes in Vrindaban reported by the Mexican witness Bhakta Vatsala Das?
A: They were seen as threat since he [Srila Prabhupada? Bhakta Vatsala?] told everything to disciples and someone among the disciples before the death [of Srila Prabhupada?] confessed and made the recording.
Q: Where are those audio records now?
A: Not in India.
Q: Why the loss of those cassettes was dangerous for the conspirators?
A: Because they would be beheaded there and then.
Q: What kind of manipulations Bhavananda was doing with "sacred water" being sprinkled over Srila Prabhupada’s food in the autumn of 1977?
A: He didn’t poison but he guessed it was taking place.
Q: What were the discussions of the senior disciples regarding the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada that were overheard by Bhakta Vatsala (probably in the autumn of 1977)?
A: The discussions were about the poisoning – who did it and how. Then who would inherit Srila Prabhupada’s legacy.
2. CONCEALMENT OF SRILA PRABHUPADA’S 1977 AUDIO RECORDINGS AND DOCUMENTS
Q: From March to September 1977, 2/3 days have no audio recordings of Srila Prabhupada (among those officially published by the Bhaktivedanta Archives). Srila Prabhupada’s conversations were being recorded at that time almost constantly by his own arrangement. Approximately 200 cassettes (minimum 100) are missing. What happened to these missing audio recordings?
Why have they not been published by the Archives? Are they still being preserved (or copies of those audio recordings) somewhere? Where are the 1977 audio recordings unpublished by the archives (especially recorded in May, July and October regarding ritvik system after Srila Prabhupada's departure): what’s the modern name of the country, city, street, house number – we need as much accurate info about the exact place as possible.
Are there any other documents / letters of Srila Prabhupada that haven’t been published and are not widely known at the moment but contain information proving the ritvik system for the period after Srila Prabhupada’s physical departure?
A: Yes. Several documents.
Q: If so, what are those documents, where are they now?
A: Not in India. In the USA. For safety reasons.
Q: Is there some other letters / documents regarding the principles of ISKCON management and functioning? If so, where exactly are they at present moment?
A: In the USA.
Q: The following episodes and missing audio recordings are especially interesting:
What did Srila Prabhupada say (as literally as possible) on May 25, 1977: he would appoint a guru-successor / successors or simply his ritvik-representatives (ritvik-acharyas, it’s the same as ritviks). Independent full blown acharya-successors (spiritual teachers) or ritviks (priests, assistants to Srila Prabhupada)? Was this first time when Srila Prabhupada said that after his departure initiations in ISKCON would be conducted on his behalf via ritviks (ritvik-acaryas)?
A: He didn’t appoint anyone, but it was concealed.
Q: Or did he first told about it even earlier, before May 25, 1977 (when? Where did it happen? Was there an audio recording to this effect, where is it now?) This episode (reported by TKG and Gauridas Pandit Das, but with conflicting essence) is absent at the audio recordings made on May 24-25, 1977, and officially published by the Bhaktivedanta Archives. Was it deleted from the audio recordings? Has the recording of this conversation survived in its unedited original form? Where is it now?
A: It has survived. But there are also two false.
Q: What exactly did Srila Prabhupada say (presumably, on June 4, 1977), when "an initiated disciple" was changed to "my initiated disciple" in his final will? How did this change to the preliminary text of the will, discussed on June 2, 1977, happened? Why the audio recording of the conversation (that took place probably on June 4, 1977) has not been published?
Where is this recording presently? Why the published final will scan bears the date June 6 (7), and the codicil refers to the will as dated June 4, 1977? Why there are no audio recordings of conversations during June 3-16, 1977? Were there any audio recordings of Srila Prabhupada conversations made during this period, and if yes, where are these audio recordings now? Did they contain anything else dangerous for conspirators? What exactly?
Is the original registered copy of Srila Prabhupada’s will is still in Mathura? Is the widely available published text corresponds to the original or was it edited? If it wasn’t faked, was it hidden (the original and its possible copies) and became widely known only years later? If it was forged, then what exactly was changed and where is the original will currently?
A: All the recordings are in the USA, in India papers only.
Q: Where are the audio recordings that Pita Das and Gauridas Pandit Das reported about, especially those made in July 1977 and not published at the present moment? Are they or their copies still stored in Houston?
A: Yes, here.
Q: In Dallas? Somewhere else?
A: [No answer]
Q: Have the recordings of Srila Prabhupada’s conversations that confirm that in October and/or November 1977 he said that in the future the initiation ceremony should continue to be conducted on his behalf with via his representatives (ritviks/ritvik-acaryas) survived to this date? Where are these tapes or their copies (possibly in digital format) currently? Who arranged that they are not published by the archives? Tamal Krishna? Did Ramesvara Swami contribute to these actions during 1970s and/or 1980s?
A: It hasn’t survived. Tamal Krishna.
Q: Why did almost all the audio recordings made in August 1977 disappear? What was the reason to hide them? What was so dangerous for the conspirators on those tapes? Where are the tapes or their copies now?
Are there hidden Srila Prabhupada’s (or his secretary) letters and documents of the 1970s about the ritvik system still stored somewhere: what’s the country, city, street and house address, exact place as far as possible? Does Ramesvara know where are the hidden letters / documents / audio recordings of Srila Prabhupada regarding the ritvik system? How to induce him to confess?
A: In the USA. Concealed in the USA.
Q: What happened to the 20-page letter of Gauridas Pandit Das, written in 1978 and sent to Satsvarupa Das Goswami? If this 20-page letter is intact at the present moment? Where is it now?
A: Destroyed.
3. THE FINAL STAGE OF THE COUP AND ISKCON TAKEOVER IN 1977-78
Q: Who was the initiator of the decision to transform 11 official ritviks into 11 new "acaryas"/successors? Was it Tamal Krishna Goswami?
A: He was intimidated, he was pressed.
Q: Why did the rest agreed: they betrayed Srila Prabhupada / deliberately made choice in favor of their personal ambitions or were they misled? Was the plan of unauthorized declaration regarding new acaryas finally approved in the second half of November 1977 in Vrindaban? Were there any meetings of “new acaryas" dedicated to the seizure of power in ISKCON at that time?
Who among these 11 were aware of the poisoning at that time? Who knew that actually they weren’t appointed as acaryas? Who among them protested against taking up the role of full acaryas? Who tried to clarify this issue, to get the evidence of their appointment as acaryas?
A: Division happened among them. They appointed themselves. It was convenient.
Q: Did Satsvarupa know that the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada was taking place, or did he came to know about this later? Was Satsvarupa involved in the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada and the hijacking of ISKCON in 1977-78? What was his role?
A: Yes. He knew. Many knew of it.
Q: ISKCON GBC (Governing Body Commission) meeting in March 1978: How the discussion / vote on new gurus happened? How the unified single position on the alleged appointment by Srila Prabhupada of 11 guru successors was adopted (which was falsely declared to the movement during this meeting)? How it was fine tuned: there were discussions, before the meeting some person alone put forward the key points? Did any of GBC members during the meetings in March 1978 objected? Who was it? Spiritual name: for example, Gurukripa Swami? Did he object at the GBC meetings in March 1978 and tried to clarify the new gurus issue? Who else?
A: Everyone accepted. It was done in such a way that everyone accepted this plan. It was planned beforehand.
Q: Did Tamal Krishna die as a result of murder arranged by Jayapataka?
A: Yes. He was murdered, but it is unknown by whom. Jayapataka was involved but not the main person. Accomplice.
Q: Where are the personal belongings of Tamal Krishna Goswami that remained after his death: his original diary of 1977, correspondence, documents, computer files? Who stole Tamal’s laptop? The original diary that he led in 1977 is especially interesting. Is it at the disposal of some of his friends or his brother Karl? Which one exactly?
A: Not at the disposal of his brother. It’s in the possession of the man who was always near him. It’s in India.
Q: Where is the mother of Jayapataka’s child? How many children Jayapataka begot after he became a guru in 1978? How many among them are living at the moment? Where does each of them live, where do their mothers live? Can they agree to give confession interviews?
A: Many children. 7 or 9. They don’t know practically anything, except for the elder son, and even he unlikely.
[End.]
Some notes:
1) If Srila Prabhupada was first poisoned in spring of 1974, it fits in Srila Prabhupada experiencing six weeks near death illness during August-September of 1974:
"By the grace of Lord Nrsngha deva I have recovered from the danger and am improving daily and I thank you for your prayers." (Letter to: Ksirodaksayee dasa, 8 September, 1974, Vrindaban)
"Regarding my health, I was lying almost unconscious. Now by the grace of Krishna, I am walking in the morning but I am still very weak. Neither do I feel any proper appetite. So the weakness is there, but I feel that I am progressing a little each day." (Letter to: TKG, 8 September, 1974, Vrindaban)
In Srutakirti's book "What is the difficulty?" he gives more information of that health crisis (pages 186-204). Are these symptoms similar to those in 1976 and especially 1977 Srila Prabhupada's health problems? I had a thought if Srila Prabhupada was indeed first poisoned in spring of 1974 during Gaura Purnima, wasn't that a coincidence that TKG left India about that time in spring (perhaps not just because he was tired of being in India and lack of possibilities to fulfill his ambitions, but to also guard himself from suspicions of being the poisoner in case Srila Prabhupada leave his body?) and some months later the health crisis matured into a near death illness, loss of appetite, Srila Prabhupada practically wasn't able to eat for weeks, sometimes had 103-105 temperature and wasn't able to walk by himself?
I haven't seen any statements on what was exactly the serious illness Srila Prabhupada experienced in 1974 and what cured him (off course it was by Krishna's grace). Power-hungry TKG abandoned his GBC India position, causing Srila Prabhupada to complain about it, for no apparent "benefit" risking his high position in ISKCON and there was some estrangement with Srila Prabhupada upon Tamal return to the USA and wandering there until he joined Radha Damodara sankirtana party. It's very strange.
But if the "benefit" was creating alibi for himself in case Srila Prabhupada leaves the body due to poisoning, that is possible. It seems difficult to explain several months gap between April, when Tamal left India, and August, but if the poison was to immediately act, that abrupt leaving would be more suspicious than creating alibi.
Similar symptoms were observed in 1975:
"Regarding my coming there, I want to come, especially your Mauritius program is attractive, but my present state of heath will not allow me to travel outside of India. I am not having any appetite so I am eating less. By eating less where is the energy for travelling?" (Letter to: Cyavana — Vrindaban 4 September, 1975)
Was it due to another early subacute poisoning?
Testing Srila Prabhupada's hairs from 1974/75 would be interesting.
2) Mercury chloride is indicated as one of the poisons. It seems it would make sense to try to find the mercury again in hair tests, if possible.
3) Chandra Swami's participation is confirmed. It was said he acted of behalf of some shadow organization, Illuminati or something. This is also noteworthy.
4) The team of poisoners among disciples is told of being consisted of five members. Who was the fifth, superior to the four above mentioned suspects (TKG, BCS, Bhav, JPS)? Chandra Swami? But he wasn't Srila Prabhupada's disciple...
5) Interesting that ritvik instructions for the future, after Srila Prabhuapada's departure, are confirmed, and it was stated there are some concealed letters/documents that prove this system are still unpublished. It's very important. Some audio proofs have also survived (in the USA), some are said to have been destroyed. Interestingly, Houston is confirmed (and there were no reaction/answer regarding Dallas). One of the main objectives is to find those unpublished audios / documents.
6) Also, there is a dictation (audio recording and manuscript/transcription) of some detailed confession regarding poisoning made shortly before Srila Prabhupada's departure (said to be in the USA). The psychic advised to search for it.
7) Remaining makaradhvaja doses (with added poison) from October 1977 are still somewhere in Vrindavana.
8) JPS has a number of children, according to the psychic, and TKG was murdered. Well, I am not surprised.
What do you think about it?
Ys, ASD
PADA: I would say a lot of this sounds pretty accurate. It has already been said that is possible -- the person "advising Tamal" was from the Gaudiya Matha, or it was Narayan Maharaja. It may also have been a secret cabal or "shadow organization" as well, which maybe is connected to the CIA or India CID. In any case, Tamal and his cohorts were directly involved, whether they got outside help or not.
Prithu Putra left ISKCON and he told his relatives "they poisoned their guru." So he knew a lot, but so did many others (like Pita das and the devotee who gave me the tapes in 1997) and yet they chose to remain silent. Probably they were worried that bringing out the issue could place them in danger.
When I wanted to bring out the issue in 1997, people like the Krishna Kant's IRM folks told me not to do that because "you will be dead in 24 hours." So a lot of people remained silent -- fearing for their own safety. I decided to go ahead with it -- and release the tapes because -- even if I did not live, the cat would be out of the bag so to speak. And it is.
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