BV Suddhadvaiti Swami / Dhira Govinda / Mathura Pati Update 05 27 25

Bv Suddhadvaiti Swami:

He (Srila Prabhupada) is 100% present and in complete control of His True ISKCON movement, which me and my fiancee Somagiri das are proud to serve in our own minute capacity. This is the highest use of our lives that could possibly be even conceived of, and the true destiny of every single soul in this world for the next 10,000 years.

If you want to actually come to KNOW KRISHNA ON A PERSONAL, RECIPROCAL, and unceasingly blissful level, as true FRIENDS (and equals, believe it or not), then you require the Absolute Mercy of His Chosen Emissary, my eternal Guru/Savior Srila Prabhupada, who He specifically sent to establish the International Society for Krishna Consciousness in this egregiously fallen world.

Yes, there are other sadhus and Brahmanas of high character and reputation, who have knowledge and wisdom. But they are not Nitya Siddha Vaishnavas - they themselves are still victimized by karma (material attachment). This means they are incapable of delivering you or destroying your karma or converting you to the Sanctified Lineage of Lord Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and Lord Sri Krishna. 

This means unfortunately (or actually, very fortunately) that initiations to individuals OTHER than Srila Prabhupada are simply and categorically rejected by Krishna. Such people constitute the “fake Vaishnavas” that we hear about from time to time in Sastra from the Acharyas, who are always protecting us through their Immortal Words from the dangers of rogues dressed and presenting themselves as Vaishnavas.

All they can do is help to the best of their limited ability. But you will not get saved by such people. And the true victory of life is LIBERATION FROM THIS WORLD, and restoration to our Eternal Position in the Spiritual Kingdom of Krishna, and once again revive your long-forgotten eternal personal relationship with Him, which is Pure, Unalloyed, Reciprocal Love (Bliss). 

Only a Mahabhagavata Paramahansa Devotee of Krisha can accomplish such a miracle - to actually liberate a soul from the clutches of birth and death, destroy their karma (material attachment), and get them home to the Eternal Spiritual World in and of which Lord Sri Krishna is the All-Powerful Center, Energetic, and Source.

So - honor your sadhus all you wish. But be warned that if you seriously desire to get out of the material world, then I strongly encourage you to put 100% faith, commitment and devotion to His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, who Krishna personally selected to found ISKCON, and to save this world through His Books, Lectures, Prasadam, Kirtan (original melodies), Personal Example and Association, and constant spiritual Instruction to His sincere and humble initiated disciples, friends and followers.

All such blessed souls will go back to Godhead within the next 10,000 years (or sooner, depending in howw deeply we please the Lord and His Representative in the tone we have left here on earth. Death comes like a thief in the night, so make your wise choice!

Srila Prabhupada is Pure Gold and Krishna is Pure Gold.

Om tat sat.

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From Dhira Govinda dasa-

Sri Guru Carana Padma Must Be Ditched, or at Least, Edited-

The song, bhajan, Sri Guru Carana Padma is sung to Srila Prabhupada at morning programs in ISKCON centers. A line in that song is, “divya jnan hrde prokasito”. Srila Prabhupada defines “diksa”, as, “divya jnan”, transcendental knowledge. Thus, essentially, that line translates as, “Srila Prabhupada, you fill our hearts with diksa”.

Srila Prabhupada speaking in Auckland, Feb. 22, 1973- “There are two words, divya-jnana. Divya-jnana means transcendental, spiritual knowledge. So divya is di, and jnanam, kñapayati, explaining, that is ksa, di-ksä. This is called diksa,...So diksa means the initiation to begin transcendental activities. That is called initiation.” On July 29, 1968 in Montreal, during an initiation lecture, Srila Prabhupada stated, “This is called initiation. Or initiation from the very beginning, this is called diksa. 

The Sanskrit term is called diksa. Diksa means... Di, divya-jnanam, transcendental knowledge; and ksa, iksa. Iksa means darsana, to see, or kñapayati, explains. That is called diksa.” In New York, on July 11, 1966, Srila Prabhupada expressed as follows, “Divya-jnana hrde prokasito. What is that divya-jnana? Divya-jnana is that we are all servant of Krsna, and our only business is to serve Krsna...This is divya-jnana. Diksa. Diksa means from this divya-jnana.” In his purport to Sri-Caitanya-caritamrta Madhya-lila 4.111 Srila Prabhupada writes, “Diksa actually means initiating a disciple with transcendental knowledge by which he becomes freed from all material contamination.”

ISKCON policy, philosophy, as far as I understand it, is that Srila Prabhupada is not capable to give diksa, divya-jnana, to prabhus who have an ISKCON Authorized Diksa Guru (IADG). Yet, during Guru-Puja, Prabhus with an IADG sing to Srila Prabhupada, “Srila Prabhupada, you fill my heart with diksa (divya-jnana)”. There’s something wrong with this picture. As Sitapati Prabhu indicates, there seems to be a “massive deviation” afloat.

I recommend ditching Sri Guru Carana Padma, or, at least, editing out that pesky line, “divya jnan hrde prokasito”.

There is a third alternative. The song doesn’t need to be completely scuttled, and, even the line, “divya jnan hrde prokasito”, can be retained. When it comes time to sing that line, those with an IADG, don’t sing it. We might imagine that some with an IADG, in the profound feelings of personal connection with Srila Prabhupada, might, perhaps inadvertently, sing it anyway. This can’t be permitted. My view- if necessary, use force.

This might result in scenes like, the IADG holding one arm, the GBC holding another arm, while the Temple Commander applies duct tape to the mouth. It’s quite a spectacle, I understand. But, it’s preferable to allowing the prabhu to continue the deviant philosophical abomination of singing with joy from the innermost stratum of his being, “Srila Prabhupada, you fill my heart with diksa, transcendental knowledge”. Desperate times call for desperate measures. The time for decisive action, is, NOW!

MA: Janme janme are keywords as well. Who else but the diksha guru will be after you birth after birth?

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Srila Prabhupada's children are "stinky stools."

Srila Prabhupada's original books are "stinky stools."

Srila Prabhupada's poison complaint is "stinky stools."

Because PADA is advocating these issues!

No wonder the GBC guys keep sending me his stuff!

krishna1008: Mathura Pati's "International Hare Krishna Movement" etc. 03 27 24

PADA: Yeah prabhu, Mathura Pati program still says -- because PADA is meditating on: saving ISKCON children from being molested; we are helping get original Srila Prabhupada books; we are forwarding the poison case complaint from the pure devotee we are "discussing stinky stools." Yes, they are saying Srila Prabhupada's children are stinky stools, which is how these thinkers caused mass child abuse in the first by discounting the children. 

Yes, that means he is saying: -- children, the original edition Vedas, and Srila Prabhupada's poison complaint are all a pile of stinky stools. OK that is what the GBC says. These guys are just parrots of Tamal.

And that is why Mathura Pati is promoting GBC cheer leaders of Saint Radhanath, because he is an official member of the "children are stinky stools" sampradaya. Sulochana said these people are promoting an anal sex sampradaya, which everyone else thinks is -- stinky stools. Hee hee. They are also upset because we helped Bangalore, and the Bangalore program is doing a billion times more than they could ever produce, or ever will produce. 

Meanwhile, Prabhupadugas EU pal Purujit (BLISS) is under fire for making their own self edited Gita. 

A: So the Krishna Kant IRM is not happy I did not help them by surrendering to Jayapataka and taking a vacation in the Caribbean under GBC care.

B: The Mukunda UK program is promoting Hitler-anuga-ness, which no one approves of. And every single Vaishnava camp out there has wrote me complaints about mixing Hitler with Krishna. Universally unaccepted. "Giving Krishna a bad name."

C: The Purujit program is promoting their own Gita and they are saying the original Gita is "The Hayagriva Gita," never mind it is personally approved by Srila Prabhupada. 

D: Prabhupadanugas EU is promoting cheer leaders for what Sulochana says is an "anal sex pooja sampradaya." So none of them get along with PADA, but they do not get along with each other either, and they are apparently just forming little splinter programs that cannot make much progress. And they aren't.

Same thing with: 

E: HKC Jaipur, the Bangalore program in Jaipur is doing way more than that program as well. So I just don't see these guys making a whole lot of progress, and they are just little splinters, who are even fighting one another. 

Meanwhile! We helped raise $22,000 to print an original book printing, and Mathura Pati says he wants to do the same, but he does not want to work with us to help raise funds and so on. And most of our PADA readers said they will never give him one red penny since he is promoting the GBC, Kirtanananda samadhi, and Radhanath program, which none of the other Prabhupadanugas approve of. 

In fact, many of our readers think that Mathura Pati's Radhanath / Kirtanananda program had Sulochana assassinated. So these folks want support from our readers, while they are supporting the programs we oppose. They have only themselves to blame for not being able to make wider scale projects. 

 

So yeah, we are more inclined to promote the Bangalore guys because at least their people are being trained to follow the original process, and they are making many more devotees of Krishna and Prabhupada, more temples and programs etc. which is the need of the hour. 

I just don't see these other guys gaining much traction, and they aren't. One of the Bangalore guys just made a nice video on the lost 1977 tapes, etc. so they are presenting these issues better than almost anyone else. And they are getting thousands of views on their videos.

Even the mundane karmi people think that these Mathura Pati program guys calling molested children stinky stools, means -- they aided and abetted the mistreatment process, and now they are attacking the victims of their agenda as stinky useless objects. So the karma is -- some day they will be children who are being mistreated, and people will call them stinky stools when they cry for help. The karma is coming for these pro-pedophile program defenders. Sulochana said -- even animals treat their children better than this lot, and we agree. 

ys pd 

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