PADA: Lets hope for the best outcome here. We have heard that a Supreme Court "final ruling" is coming on this issue many times in the past. Lets see if this time it is for sure. We also heard that the poison investigation folks are going to forward the issue in court starting in the fall of last year, but that also seems to be a foot dragging process as well.
We need to get these things done before all of us are dead. But for sure, lets hope the courts understand that we cannot support the worship of conditioned souls -- if not debauchees -- as Krishna's successors and acharyas. It is not going to make India culture look good if they favor the worship of deviants as God's successors.
The India ISKCON ICC people wrote to chastise me for objecting to their process of worship of deviants, if not pedophiles. They said I do not know India culture, I am a mleccha, therefore I cannot understand why we should promote deviants as acharyas.
Ummm well yep, us mlecchas know this much at least -- since God is pure, His successors must also be pure. We may have hamburgers for brains, but we do know a thing or two about God and His successors, that they do not know. We also know that worshiping deviants produces deviations among the followers, as we see in spades with ISKCON.
They are correct, when I was a ten years old hamburger eating mleccha kid, I already knew that we cannot worship drunks, druggies, sexual predators and pedophiles as God's messiahs, that is not the process of pleasing God. That means the ICC are actually glorifying us mlecchas, we are smarter than the ICC probably ever will be. ys pd
PADA: The Purujit BLISS boys deserve some credit here. Yes as a matter of fact, they are onto something important here -- protecting children is a high priority, perhaps the highest priority for a society. Any society. And the ISKCON children's welfare has been neglected -- and that is an understatement.
And the result is the children have abandoned ISKCON nearly wholesale, they are not participating in mass numbers. Worse, a number of them are now promoting the biggest cheer leader of the molester messiahs project -- Narayan Maharaja -- because their parents ran off to support him. Worse, a number of them now hate the Krishna religion and some of them eat meat.
Suffice it to say, many ISKCON children report they suffered from being neglected, starved, beaten, molested and deprived of basic needs like food, soap, clean clothes, shoes and so forth. There was a systematic process of siphoning the funds meant to care for these children -- to steal that money meant for the poor children -- and instead the money provided opulent Saudi Prince lifestyles for the elite leaders. And for that matter, the elite leaders still have opulent life styles.
So we helped a $400,000,000 lawsuit in 1997, largely to help the victims feel like someone was trying to help them -- considering that a number of them were suffering severe mental depression, PTSD and a host of psychological, emotional and physical problems. And therefore, by 1997 there was a growing suicides epidemic process, and of course a lot of drug use and many other types of self destructive and self harming problems.
Never mind a number of them were living on a shoe string and some were homeless, living in their cars etc. when I was in LA in 1997. So they clearly needed help, and at least the lawsuit helped them somewhat, they got some sort of compensation to give them some sort of seed funding for their lives.
And a number of them told me, without that funding they would not have been able to get on their feet. More importantly, their victimization was validated and that helped them heal psychologically. And therefore the suicide process went down substantially. And in fact a number of victims told me the lawsuit helped them substantially by validating their claims.
There can be no doubt the welfare of these children was not a priority for the Krishna society as a whole up to that time. No sane person could argue that children's welfare was a big priority.
So the result of the lawsuit was, ISKCON formed a Child Protection Office (CPO) and Dhira govinda was part of that process. In other words, the lawsuit forced ISKCON to start to address the child welfare issue, and people like Dhira Govinda said the lawsuit was a wake up call for him and many others in the society.
That means the lawsuit was required to address the child abuse issue, and then many parents and leaders realized there is a BIG problem -- and thus a number of parents removed many children -- perhaps several hundred -- who were pulled out of ISKCON schools -- by the now alerted parents. Some of those "liberated" children later on wrote to PADA to thank me for helping get them yanked out of there. A few even said we saved their lives by having them removed from there, literally.
Unfortunately, not everyone was happy to see that hundreds of children were being pulled out of a system that was having children -- starved, beaten, molested and then -- having these children feel PTSD, stress, and even suicidal. Why is PADA saving children from being starved, beaten and raped? That is really a deviation prabhu!
So we had immediately a lot of push back on this issue not only from ISKCON clique folks, but guys like the "ISKCON Reformers" -- (IRM) Krishna Kant, Sanat, Mukunda, Prahlad, Mathura Pati's Prabhupadanugas EU, Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur and etc. All these people joined together to claim that PADA has been "destroying the golden body of ISKCON" by halting mass child abuse.
Wow pilgrims, worshiping homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks, criminals, illicit sex with men, women and children -- and taxi drivers, dating minor aged students, and / or worshiping guru poisoners -- and creating a giant child abuse process as a result -- are all collectively -- a lineage of saints and messiahs in the Golden Body of God. Especially Golden and pure when devotees are being banned, beaten, molested, sued and killed. And kids are committing spontaneous suicides. Wonderful Golden Body of God here! Who knew!
PADA's view is? All of these issues are connected. The same people who are blamed as the core cadre in poisoning Prabhupada -- are also blamed as the core leaders of the post 1977 guru clique -- which orchestrated all these other problems, like mass child abuse.
It is always the same clique's names that keep coming up over and over being blamed for the banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits, murders and -- poisoning. As Sulochana said many times, the supporters of the GBC's pedophile guru program are more or less like brain dead zombies, they just cannot understand that worshiping pedophiles is even a problem. Their brains have been infected with pedophile guru-ism and it is hard to clear out.
Anyway, yes, Dhira Govinda is right. The 1997 Windle Turley lawsuit woke up a lot of people in and around ISKCON and they immediately began to discuss the issue. That means the USA legal system knew that mass child abuse is a problem, before many devotees knew.
And that is why PADA had to take shelter of the mundane secular system of their law enforcement, courts, and media, and they not only helped me, they saved me from being assassinated by this program. In the end, all of these issues are connected, the same people who caused the poison issue -- caused the banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and murders issue, and the child molesting is just one branch of the poison tree.
So thanks Purujit people, for bringing up this child abuse issue. It is important, and it is important that devotees start to understand the perils of neglecting child protection. Because if they don't understand that issue, there will not be a Krishna society in the future, because a society depends on its children to continue forward. But this is a good start, I think that the HKC Jaipur and Mathura Pati Prabhupadanugas EU type folks who support the cheer leaders of the Saint Radhanath pedophile samadhi program, and the writings of Bhavananda's bucket boy, will learn from this.
Worshiping pedophiles as messiahs is a deviation, and the results will be mass molesting, and this is just plain common sense. Unfortunately, the courts had to tell the devotees that their deviation is a peril to children.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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