Wednesday, June 7, 2023

Krishna Kant / IRM / ISKCON Molesting / David Paulig ETC.



Krishna Kant's IRM Told Me They Are
"Making A Deal" With This Group  

Subject: Re: Puranjana Supports Defamation of Srila Prabhupada

On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 9:55 AM David Paulig <david.paulig@outlook.de> wrote:

Prabhupada Defamation Society

Iskcon IRM (attacks PADA)

Yours in the service of Srila Prabhupada,

Dhananjaya Dāsa

P. S: Prabhupadas Original books (PDFs etc.)

[Which PADA had to help obtain with the BBTI lawsuit]

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PADA: Thanks YD prabhu. Well in 1995 we were writing that more and more of the ex-gurukula children victims were committing suicide. Simultaneously, many gurukula children were in CURRENT danger in ISKCON's schools such as Mayapur. For example, hundreds of children were going off into the hands of people like Bhakti Vidya Purna swami and there was molesting, violent beatings and even violent rapes of children going on. Praghosa said it was "industrial level child abuse." 

So we said this is an emergency situation and it needs to be dealt with through the courts. I wanted to have the GBC sued to address the issue outside the ISKCON structure, and stop the suicides and stop the flow of kids going into their hands. Trying to fix this internally was not working.

Krishna Kant Desai (IRM chief) fully disagreed. He said we need to have NO LEGAL ACTION against the GBC, because "we will lose OUR buildings." OK so "his" buildings -- where molesters are being worshiped as messiahs, and children are being beaten and maybe raped, are his personally owned possessions. He owns that program. Well thanks a lot pal, but I do not own that program, at least Krishna Kant admits -- I PERSONALLY OWN THE MOLESTER PROGRAM. 

It is all yours, danke well! Later on IRM disciple (HKC JAIPUR thug Prahlad das) said the same thing, we made the "innocent people" pay for the court case. So the "innocent people" are running a child beating and child raping and child suicide program, and they should not be challenged. Kamsahanta also agreed, PADA needs to go to the Carribean and shut the heck up about all their abuse regime! 

That is why many people always ask me -- why do all of these people seem to always favor child beating, child rapes, and child suicides programs -- and this is the same question I get over and over and over all the time? And why are people like Dayalu Nitai's HKC folks saying their favorite child beating, child rape and suicide program's defenders like Prahlad das are "our senior men"? And why does Bhakta Peter say "Prahlad loves children," when he is defending child beating and rape programs and he is sending me veiled death threats? Is he threatening the perps? Nope. OK in short: Anyone who disagrees with their child beating and rapes program, must be stopped.  

And how is any of this innocent? The person who drives the cattle to the slaughterhouse is innocent -- because he is not the person with the hatchet? Sorry all the Kaurava clan was condemned, not just the ring leaders. 

So Krishna Kant and his team thought the suicides problem -- and having the ongoing problem of hundreds of kids falling into GBC's hands, and then having children being potentially or actually being beaten and raped, and maybe dying of suicides later, is not a big problem. What is the problem? Me, trying to stop their industrial level factory abuse program. 

And Krishna Kant was having -- not so secret -- meetings with Jayapataka ilk and other GBC, where they (Jaypataka ilk and Krishna Kant) agreed I need to go take a vacation in the Carribean, and stop all my PADA writing. OK I would have no doubt been disappeared over there, and fed to the sharks. Thanks a lot bud! Wait? Jayapataka is the head leader of the Mayapur molesting program, why are we hanging out with that crowd at all, much less "making a deal" with them to have us removed from writing etc.

In other words, there is a class of devotees who do not think that child beating, child rapes, and subsequent suicides of child victims is a big problem. The problem is? Anyone pointing out that problem, OK like PADA. 

And then Krishna Kant Desai acquired a gang of associated pals like Sanat / Mukunda / Naranaryan Visvakarma / Prahlad das / HKC Jaipur types / Pancali types etc. and they started posting on Mukunda's site that they wanted to see all the gurukula children "die in a blood bath in Dallas." OK so they were not happy that only a few of their victims were dying of suicides, they wanted maybe the whole mass of Srila Prabhupada's children victims to die in a giant bloodbath. 

Why do they want Srila Prabhupada's children dead? At all? Simple answer, that way they can save the perps regime from being held accountable. In short, the victims have to die, the perps get to live a life of luxury.

Whereas Windle Turley, a Texas lawyer, thought that we need to stop the suicides and NOT have a blood bath of these kids. Then Krishna Kant said these children are offenders because they have no faith in Prabhupada and Krishna. Well no kidding, if you have been beaten -- and or -- raped -- and or -- your friends are committing suicide, what would you think of your religion? Anyone who thinks this would not create a negative idea of the religion is simply day dreaming. Or smoking a crack pipe.

For example, one devotee lady recently told me -- her parents had coerced her to be initiated in the mid-1980s, and NOW she has horrible nightmares whenever she hears the name of her "guru" -- or she sees his photo by chance. Yep, let em all die, that will fix them won't it? That lady also went off the radar after all that, evidently she is totally fried with the whole thing. But Krishna Kant is attacking people like her for "having a poor attitude about the religion." Really?

And then, when someone tries to save you -- and or -- your friends from being shipped off to Mayapur, or maybe from getting beaten, raped or committing suicide, someone says "lets have them all die in a bloodbath." Wow, what an encouraging message to give them faith in the religion! We thought the religion was rotten and guess what, we were right! 

And how is that supposed to make the victims have ANY faith in the religion? Let them all be dead! Then they wonder why the children lose faith? Some of the regular "karmi" people who encourage others to commit suicide are then arrested for causing a premature death. In other words, what Krishna Kant and his pals are doing is considered as criminal, if not aiding someone's death, by normal people. 

And that is why the media people ask me things like this for example:

What kind of people encourage children's suicides programs?
 
What kind of people promote a program of hundreds of kids to end up being beaten and / or raped?

Well by now, we know, they are not normal, moral and compassionate people.

Anyway, the upshot is, we stopped the suicides to a large extent and saved them from Krishna Kant's death, beating, rapes and suicide cult. No wonder he is upset, he self evidently wanted to keep the flow of his victims going on.

It does not end there! Krishna Kant also insisted that we NOT work with Hansadutta on the BBTI court case. We should NOT have the rights to original books. Why do these people not want original books, and they want Jayadvaita's hatchet job books? OK they are clearly lined up with the GBC's agenda on this issue as well. 

Oddly, Prahlad says that they wanted original books and PADA should not get any credit, which is a huge lie, because their Mukunda UK program many times said we SHOULD NOT SUE THE GBC, and that "PADA is a liar madman" etc. for our taking actions to fix the changed books issue. They even said -- PADA needs to be taken off the internet (so Jayadvaita's views will win). Yep, it is always about defending the molester messiahs project, changed book project, poisoners of pure devotees project etc. Sorry we had to sue them to get the BBT rights, and you wanted only Jayadvaita to have the rights, because you are with them. 

Yep! It gets worse! They also opposed me on the poison issue. The good news is that Krishna Kant lost most of his IRM people on that issue, because they agreed with me and started to work with me on the poison investigation committee. In sum, when they said I was happy with the complaints of the children, that is false. I never said their complaints about the religion were endorsed by me. 

I said -- their complaints are the fully expected results of a lifetime of getting false information, and years of abuse. Krishna Kant's army of fools saying all of the victims need to die in a bloodbath simply convinced the victims all the more, the religion is rotten. Krishna Kant just poured petrol on the situation. Having victims die simply covers up the issue, and does not fix it. Then there is another wave of MORE VICTIMS.  

Anyway, we have done a lot of things which has offended all sorts of people over the years. And I am sorry for that. But when children are being beaten and raped, and then taking their lives, it is my duty to try to check that and it would be another offense if I did nothing. It would be a worse offense if I said, let them all die in a bloodbath in Dallas, and I was encouraging a system where they can be beaten, raped and taking their lives. 

Windle Turley did not understand all these issues, and it is foolish to assume some Texas lawyer who has a bottle of Johnny Walker on his desk would understand all these issues, but he did save children from suicides, so he understood the most important issue, children have to be saved from Krishna Kant's molesting and suicide cult.  

I think I chose the lesser of two evils. When children are being beaten, raped and they are taking their lives, there is no easy good option here. If there was, it would have been done way before it fell into my hands. And this begs the question, why is anyone mentioning me at all in regards to the molesting issue, changed books issue, poison issue? AT ALL!!! Because self evidently it was not sufficiently in anyone else's hands, so a large portion of dealing with these issues fell into mine by default.

That means everyone else collectively failed to address all this. And that means that the decades of subsequent Bhakti Vidya Purna regime's Mayapur molesting, beating and rapes problem was not solved in 1997 because these people collectively opposed me trying to clean this up. And that would include Krishna Kant and his army of fools. 

A number of victims told me the court case saved their lives, i.e. saved them from suicide. If the suicides would have expanded, that also would have eventually been in the newspapers anyway. These guys do not get it, we cannot continue to cover up for child molesting cults forever with no reactions. Anyway, yes we stopped the suicides almost to nil, and had hundreds or maybe thousands of kids pulled from their program -- and thus we saved MANY MORE KIDS from their molesting regime. 

And because we stopped children from being tossed into their wood chipper, they are upset. I get it, when you are one of the people handing children off to the wood chipper operators, you would be upset when someone started to halt the supply of bodies. Sulochana said -- they are tossing children into a wood chipper, and they are never going to approve of us trying to stop them. 

And when the children going into the wood chipper are complaining about the religion, guess what our plan is? Toss even more kids into our wood chipper, a blood bath in Dallas no less, and sit down and "make deals" with Jayapataka's Auschwitz for kids program. Sorry we had to upset your wonderful plans for them! No wonder Kamsahanta went into hiding after all that. 

Notice also that David Paulig advertises original books now, which means he has finally agreed we did the right thing getting them, but he still says we are offensive and doing the wrong thing by getting the original books? He just is not happy no matter what, which Srila Prabhupada says is what happens when you try to please the asuras. You cannot please them ever, they are asuras.

ys pd 

angel108b@yahoo.com 


4 comments:

  1. YD: Yeah. After being beaten, molested, maybe raped, let us tell them they now need to die in Dallas. That will make them want to surrender! Surrender to what?

    What a bunch of dogs posing as humans. I feel empathy and bad for these children, and they feel hate for these children. Just have them die. Why hate? Because ... these children are exposing them.

    Taking the lives of the children will not stop the exposing, it will just make the need to expose these people all the more needed. I think we need to expose them ... they are a clear and present danger to children, not only ISKCON but all children.

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  2. SD Dasi: All of these people are alike. We have a program of children being tortured badly ... and if you do not like it ... you are an offender.

    Windle Turley is a bad man ... because I can drop off my kids at his house and they will be treated very nicely. They will be watching [oh the horror!] Sesame Street on TV. We cannot have anything like that going on!

    Meeting with Jayapataka? The leader of the whole Mayapur molester program is going to save us from the same molester program? No wonder the molesting has been sprouting ... like weeds all over the place. They are watering the weeds. And stomping down us trying to remove the weeds.

    And they still are stomping on us. Heaven help the children they are in charge of. Probably that is why hardly anyone gives them their children now these days ... they are exposed. That means ... exposing them is the right course of action. I don't know anyone who would hand them their children right now. They are exposed. Good job! You are saving children then ... and today.

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  3. LD: Classic ISKCON conundrum. They want to save the corrupt system abusing the children ... and save the children. They cannot have it both ways.

    Meeting with Jayapataka ??? to make him a ritvik means ... that will make Mayapur's molesting the official program of the ritviks. That would be VERY bad for the ritviks. In fact ... that would be horrible for the ritviks.

    Glad you cut them off ... the last thing the ritviks need is to have a giant corrupt molesting camp ... includes Bhavananda ... on their doorstep. The Krishna Kant people never seem to have any real solutions for these problems ... either molesting problem ... or book changes problem ... and for sure ... nothing good to add to the poison problem.

    They are just another head in the sand version. And they put their head in the sand ... so they can get some free position n' perks and hand outs from the Mayapur gang ... which is why Mayapur is a den of thieves, molesters, embezzlers and maybe -- poisoners.

    You serve them ... you get perks ... and you also go to the lower planets with them as well. They have never explained why they were saying the Mayapur molesting program is "Srila Prabhupada's golden body" as I recall their group saying back then. They can't explain it either.

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  4. PADA: Thanks M prabhu, yep I am sure the IRM folks have another version of this history. Lets see what it is? If they never show me their version, then unfortunately, my version sticks.

    I also have eye witnesses who were there around the time when the IRM was "making deals" with the GBC folks and they told me to go to the Caribbean and stop all PADA writing. And people warned me when Krishna Kant said he was "going to war" with PADA etc.

    In any case, we said -- by attacking us -- they direct or de facto supported the regime of child beatings and rapes, and many victims told me they agree -- the people who try to stop me are helping the regime. And that is also what the police told me, your opponents are aiding the molester program.

    Anyway, if there is another version, someone can send it and we can review from there. Since they never send me their version, mine will do for now. ys pd

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