PADA: Some sort of new alleged sexual predator scandal is brewing in the Narayan Maharaja camp -- involving one of their prominent gurus named Premananda. He has an ashram in Vrndavana. It also appears this process is creating more major rifts and schism in their NM group, with people fighting over posts and positions. I am sure more details will surface over time.
We heard some time ago that Prem Prayojana's group was getting threats of violence from another one of their groups as well. And we also heard that when their other guru Tirtha was alleged to be groping a woman -- the main "Pure Bhakti" society defended him to keep him in the guru post.
Meanwhile, a guru from the Sridhara Maharaja group told his followers he cannot go to Mayapur because the Sridhara temple people there "will beat me up." Hee hee, and these are the pastimes of pure devotees?
We also heard that one of the Narayan Maharaja swamis gave sannyasa to ex-Sri Galim, who was one of the molesters in ISKCON. And that is not being well received anywhere. Of course, ISKCON itself is having troubles with ex-child beater guru Dhanurdara floating around Mayapura, which is causing a big stink over there.
So all of this is connected, we cannot promote conditioned souls as gurus, plain and simple. All of these predatory people have evidently unresolved sexual predatory conditioning that they have not yet conquered. Worse, there are cases of both male and female victims, which means there are both homosexual and heterosexual aggressors, making it harder to find and identify the problems because literally anyone can be a potential victim with this false messiah's lot, including apparently minors or children.
Shastra is very unforgiving on these sexual predator gurus, saying that they will rot in the most obnoxious hells. I believe that is going to be the result, because they are harming so many victims. OK meanwhile us peons with our manifold contaminations, unresolved sexual desires, desires for intoxicants and maybe watching football and so many countless other mundane problems, are not able to cause so much havoc for so many others -- because our level of exploiting is very limited. This is why its better to remain a sincere sweeper on the street than a charlatan meditator.
The solution for these folks is seemingly simple, to see all spiritual souls -- in either male or female bodies -- as Krishna's children and property. And moreover to see all women as Krishna's wives. OK much easier said than done, granted. Unfortunately, to artificially telescope the conditioned souls with the liberated souls is something HIGHLY forbidden in shastra, because it destroys the preaching, destroys the lives of victims, and destroys the institutions which were supposed to represent Krishna.
If we still see objects or persons in the material world as our property, meant for our enjoying or exploiting, then we are not yet liberated souls. That means we cannot take the post of liberated soul, or we will create havoc for ourselves and others.
One devotee wrote to tell me, after these gurus take all this karma from others, they start to realize the disciples are exploiting them -- to give these gurus their karma. So they start to resent being a guru for their own followers, and may then try to exploit the followers as revenge for having taken their karma.
In sum, its the society of cheaters and the cheated. Unfortunately, that means the Krishna religion is stunted and contaminated and it makes it very hard to attract new people to the religion. Another question we get, "Where are Jnana das, Jadurani and all these other people in this crew? And why aren't they fixing things"? OK they are compromised. We will update this story as we get more details. ys pd
Dear PADA: Even the current main acarya in the Sri Chaitanya Saraswata math, and one of the main Narayan (pure bhakti) gurus fell down. In Vrindaban last year there were three opposing Narayan Maharaja groups that all told us to stay away from the other ones.
There was the main group (pure bhakti society), The Premananda group, and another third group who branched off because they accept that Prabhupada was a cowherd boy which goes againstead what Narayan said. I guess now another fracture is happening as Premananda Prabhu (guru of Radhe kunj Ashram Vrindavan) has allegedly had inappropriate relations with disciples. He is the spiritual leader of a pretty successful Narayan Maharaj off-shoot group.
His Ashram is called Radhe Kunj (not radha kund) and its about a 10 minute walk from iskcon Vrindavan. There are 3 main Narayan maharaja factions. There is: 1) The main Pure Bhakti Society, 2) the Naryana Maharaja "Vrindavan Krishna Balaram Ashram" (Suddhadvaiti swami); BV Damodhar swami, Madhusudana prabhu.
They split due to their belief that Prabhupada was a gopa not a gopi. This was considered as blasphemous against Naryana Maharaja statements that prabhupada is a gopi. A lot of devotees in this group are former iskcon devotees who also were big admirers of Gour Govinda Swami. This group was also the ones who were against keeping Tirtha Maharaja (one of the leading Narayan Swami initiating gurus in India) in a spiritual master position after he allegedly inappropriately touched a devotee woman during a massage.
And the main Indian "Pure Bhakti" Devotees wanted to cover it up.
And the other big Narayan Maharaj faction: 3) Premananda Prabhuji's Radhe Kunj Vrindavan bramacari Ashram. Premananda is a very charismatic and likeable fellow, and has a large number of bramacaris from all over the western world living in his Ashram. He is the one who allegedly had inappropriate relations. Its unclear to me if he had consensual relations with disciples or he did things against their will.
BV Suddhadvaiti swami
[PADA: OK so this looks like a repeat of the Gaudiya Matha's and GBC's guru process. People are being sexually or otherwise victimized by the leader or guru. Then, when the victims speak up -- they are blaming the victims and ostracizing the victims and so on. The victims are being punished and the perps get away scott free. What kind of society rewards the perps and suppresses the victims?]
[PADA: Well there you have it. Don't go to Radha Kunda and associate with the babajis there. And if you do go there "you will just think of sex life." So it looks like this whole Narayan Maharaja train is coming off the rails.
Its sad, but at the same time, its reality catching up to them. Anyone who imitates the acharyas is headed for the most obnoxious regions, and it amazes us that so many people are over and over and over jumping into the fiery hole that leads to hell without any consideration of the consequences for themselves or their victims. What does it benefit if we gain the whole world, and lose our soul?
And this answers the question we get from time to time, why are the GBC folks / Sridhara / Narayan and even Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur folks trying to have PADA suppressed? Its simple, they want to toss millions of more victims into their wood chipper of worship of their illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs, so they can increase their bogus sampradaya without our restraining and exposing it. That way they can toss more victims into their bogus guru's wood chipper.
And so -- they are infuriated we are putting a crimp on their agenda. BV Suddhavaiti cannot admit that he is supporting a process that is making these false messiahs, he is part of the problem too.
ys pd]
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LD: Jnana dasa (Nemi Bhaktivedanta swami) ... another person who really did not speak out much against ISKCON gurus. Now preaching to mostly Russians. He gave up trying to help weed out these false gurus. There is no check and balance on misrepresenting Krishna. They gave up a long time ago. Suddhadvaiti is right, they have no control on their false gurus. Prabhupada says the Gaudiya Matha idea is ... rubber stamp false gurus. And have no way to control them when they deviate. They are doing what Prabhupada told them not to do, make false gurus. Prabhupada says ... not to eat the forbidden bogus guru apple. Then when he is gone, all of them run over to eat it. When the cat is away the mice will play. Narayan Maharaja simply opens the door for more false gurus. Another crap disturbing posing as a vaishnava.
ReplyDelete[PADA: Yep, they think Jesus can absorb sins, and so can I. That is why my friend who worked in a mental home said, the worst case people there are the guys who think they are Jesus. They are complete arrogant jerks and they don't listen to anyone, so they have to be subdued by tranquilizers. Unfortunately, we have no team of mental health workers who can subdue them, hee hee. ys pd]