Their Bhakti Began to Dry Up
Srila Gurudeva: Svamiji came to the eastern and western countries and very mercifully, in a very short time he preached Krsna-nama and bhakti everywhere. We wonder how it was possible he preached so quickly all over the world. But he left this world, back to aprakata-lila, the devotees everywhere in the world became so weak because there was no advanced Vaisnava association there.
PADA: Sorry, the reverse is what happened. Gaura Govinda Maharaja's program made the Gaudiya Math's "advanced leaders" like Sridhara Maharaja their new shiksha advisors. And they "advised" that intoxicated womanizers like Jayatirtha should remain in the acharya's post -- even when everyone knew they were falling.
In other words, the Gaura Govinda Maharaja program wanted ISKCON to worship intoxicated womanizers as acharyas and not bona fide acharyas. The GGM program is what weakens ISKCON and DRIES up and destroys bhakti.
Lacking these things, their bhakti began to dry up. Svamiji saw that there were devotees who were kanistha Vaisnavas and who wanted to progress, but gradually that they were going to dry up. So I think that he mercifully inspired me to go everywhere he had planted the seeds of bhakti. He made a very good platform.
Otherwise, a person like me, I have not done anything. You are hearing all these things only due to his mercy. He wrote so many books that can help new devotees or anyone to understand what bhakti is, who the Supreme Personality of Godhead is, and how we can have a relationship with Him and how can we can be happy in this life and in future lives.
PADA: But GGM said transcendental knowledge (sabda brahman) does not descend from books and tapes. We need to hear from the living lips person, ok like his homosexual and pedophile "Vishnupada" pals. Gaura Govinda Maharaja has not the slightest clue who deserves the title of Vishnupada and who does not. The same false Vishnupada process DRIED UP the Gaudiya Matha after 1937.
Unfortunately, many of GGM's living lips gurus are homosexuals, pedophiles drunks and deviants. Meanwhile he is departed and there are no longer living lips in his process. Worse many of GGM's followers ran off to Tamal's living lips bucket boy Narayan Maharaja.
I see that everywhere I am going, there is a very good platform. Although we are few in number, still we are satisfied. Also, I am so much indebted to Gour Govinda Maharaja. He was a pure Vaisnava, a very pure Vaisnava. He tried his best to follow Svamiji, but so many obstacles came. He wanted to cross them, but there were so many obstacles that he was surrounded from all sides. At last, he left this world. But he was so bold. He impressed the importance of Vaisnava association on his disciples and that is why almost all his disciples are now associating with me.
PADA: No, Gaura Govinda Maharaja said that we need to stay with his contaminated version of ISKCON, which means staying with the worship of GGM's illicit sex with men, women and children acharyas. And making Auschwitz for kids. Sorry, Auschwitz for kids is not ISKCON.
But GGM can not tell the difference between Auschwitz for kids and the spiritual sky of Krishna loka. He did not understand that these are different platforms. And he never did, he was still hanging out with the molester messiah's program in Mayapur up to his last breath here.
So, I am indebted to him. I know that they cannot die. They are beyond the limit of birth and death, so they are anywhere and they are serving their holy master, Krsna, Radha, and Mahaprabhu. When they will see that we are preaching in the same line, they will be very happy and they will sprinkle their mercy to us.
Don’t be weak. You should have very strong faith in bhakti and in our Guru-parampara. Don’t be weak. If there is no Vaisnava association, then they have left Srimad-Bhagavatam, Caitanya-caritamrta, Gita, and so many books.
PADA: OK now all of a sudden the books do contain sabda brahman? He is contradicting himself and confusing people. Or he simply does not know what is sabda brahman and what is not.
We can associate with them in their absence. But when this jivanta-bhagavata, when the living bhagavata is there, then we should try to go and listen to them.
[Spoken by Srila Gurudeva on December 4th, 1998, Malaysia]
PADA: OK so when GGM told me the ritvik idea is bogus because there is no living lips person, he was simultaneously saying the opposite to others -- we can worship a departed acharya. No wonder people ask me about these issues, these guys muddied the waters badly with contrary statements that make no sense when placed together. OK this is also called hypocrisy. ys pd
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Bogus GBC Iskcon
Unauthorized Guru Lineages, Deviated Offerings, and Usurped Temples — Scriptural Analysis
The Foundation — What Makes an Offering Valid
Before addressing the specific situations, the scriptural basis for a valid offering must be established. The Vaishnava tradition is unambiguous that an offering to the Lord is only genuinely accepted when it passes through a bona fide sampradaya — an authorized chain of disciplic succession.
The Padma Purana states the foundational principle:
“Sampradaya-vihina ye mantras te nishphala matah”
“Mantras received outside of a bona fide sampradaya are fruitless.”
This is not a minor point. It means that the entire apparatus of worship — mantra, deity installation, puja, offering — derives its efficacy from the authenticity of the sampradaya through which it flows. A broken or deviated chain does not merely reduce the potency of worship. It fundamentally compromises its validity.
The Bogus Guru — What Scripture Says
The Guru Must Be Authorized
The Srimad Bhagavatam 11.3.21 gives the qualifications of the bona fide guru with precision:
“One should take initiation from a bona fide spiritual master coming in the disciplic succession, who is fixed in the Absolute Truth.”
And critically — the Bhagavatam 11.17.27 states:
“The symptoms of a bona fide guru are that he has realized the conclusions of the scriptures by deliberation and is able to convince others of these conclusions. Such great personalities, who have taken shelter of the Supreme Lord, abandoning all material considerations, should be understood to be bona fide spiritual masters.”
An unauthorized person claiming the position of diksha guru — particularly after Srila Prabhupada, who gave no clear authorization for successors to initiate on his behalf in the manner the GBC subsequently claimed — falls outside this definition. The Bhagavatam does not recognize self-appointment or institutional appointment as substitutes for genuine spiritual qualification and divine sanction.
The Specific Sin of the False Guru
The Srimad Bhagavatam 11.20.9 and the Mahabharata both warn:
One who accepts disciples for personal profit, prestige, or institutional advancement — without being genuinely qualified — commits a grave offense both against the disciple and against the Lord.
Prabhupada himself stated this with characteristic directness:
“If one is not a bona fide spiritual master and still accepts disciples, both he and his disciples will suffer.”
This is the karma at the root of the entire situation you are describing — the suffering of sincere devotees who received initiation from unauthorized gurus flows directly from this original violation of dharma.
Food Offered Through a Deviated Guru — The Scriptural Analysis
The Chain of Offering Must Be Intact
In the Vaishnava system, when a devotee offers food, the offering travels through the parampara — the disciplic chain. The disciple offers to the guru, the guru offers to his guru, and so the offering ascends through the chain until it reaches the Lord. This is not poetry — it is the actual theological mechanism of Deity worship as described in the Narada Pancharatra and Hari Bhakti Vilasa.
When the chain is broken or deviated, the offering does not complete its journey to the Lord. It remains, in effect, unoffered — or worse, it reaches only as far as the entity the deviated guru is actually connected to, which in the case of a self-aggrandizing false guru may be nothing more than his own ego and the subtle influences of Kali.
The Hari Bhakti Vilasa on This Point
The Hari Bhakti Vilasa, the definitive manual of Vaishnava conduct compiled by Sanatana Goswami under Mahaprabhu’s direction, is explicit:
Food offered by a person who has violated their initiation vows, who has fallen from proper conduct, or who has deviated from the teachings of the acharya — such food carries the contamination of their deviation. The offering has not been purified.
It carries instead the karma and consciousness of the deviated offerer.
This is actually more dangerous than ordinary restaurant food in one specific sense: it comes disguised as prasadam. Ordinary restaurant food makes no claim to spiritual purity. Deviated offerings present themselves as transcendental while carrying a subtle contamination — the contamination of Vaishnava-aparadha baked into the offering itself.
Prabhupada’s Own Warning
Prabhupada warned about exactly this category of spiritual danger:
“If you take food from a non-devotee your mind will be disturbed. And if you take from a pseudo-devotee it is even more dangerous — because you will think you are safe when you are not.”
The pseudo-devotee — one who performs all external forms of devotional service while having deviated internally from the guru and the sampradaya — represents a specific and acute spiritual hazard in Prabhupada’s analysis.
The Usurped Temple — What Scripture Says About Worship There
This is perhaps the most serious dimension of your question and the scriptures address it with striking directness.
The Principle of Deity Installation
According to the Narada Pancharatra and Agama Shastra, a Deity in a temple is not merely a statue or symbol. The Lord actually agrees to be present in the Deity form — but this agreement is conditional upon:
1. The Deity being properly installed by authorized priests through legitimate Vedic rites
2. The worship being conducted according to the prescribed regulative principles
3. The worshipers being connected to a bona fide sampradaya
4. The institution maintaining its spiritual integrity
When an institution becomes corrupted — when the leaders deviate from the acharya, when criminal behavior is covered up, when the guru system is manufactured rather than realized — the question the scriptures raise is whether the Lord continues to accept worship through that compromised institution.
The Brahma-vaivarta Purana Principle
The Brahma-vaivarta Purana contains a deeply sobering teaching: the Lord is not obliged to remain in a Deity form when the conditions of proper worship are violated. Just as a guest of honor will not remain in a household that becomes disrespectful and unclean, the Lord’s manifest presence in a Deity is conditional upon the integrity of the worship.
This does not mean the Lord punishes the Deity worshipers by immediately withdrawing. But it does mean that the transcendental potency of the darshan and the prasadam is diminished or absent when the institution has lost its connection to the proper parampara.
Historical Precedent in the Tradition
The Goswamis of Vrindavan themselves faced exactly this situation when the Mughal invasions repeatedly desecrated temples and disrupted legitimate worship. Their guidance was consistent: when a temple falls under control of those who cannot conduct proper worship according to shastra, sincere devotees must seek shelter elsewhere — either in home worship, in association with genuine Vaishnavas, or in travel to temples where the parampara remains intact.
The Hari Bhakti Vilasa specifically warns devotees not to take darshan from Deities being worshiped in an improper manner — the reasoning being that improper worship does not merely fail to benefit the worshiper but can actually transfer the karma and contamination of the improper worship to those who participate in it.
The Compound Problem — Deviated Offering in an Usurped Temple
When both conditions combine — food offered by disciples of unauthorized gurus within a temple taken over by those who departed from Prabhupada’s standards — the scriptural analysis converges on a single conclusion:
What is being distributed is not prasadam in the transcendental sense. It is:
∙ Food that has passed through a broken sampradaya chain
∙ Offered by worshipers whose initiation connection to the Lord is compromised
∙ In a institution that has accumulated significant collective karma through abuse,
cover-up, and deviation from the acharya
∙ Presented under the name and form of Prabhupada’s movement — which makes it an ongoing act of nama-aparadha (offense to the Holy Name) and guru-aparadha (offense to the acharya)
The Padma Purana lists ten offenses against the Holy Name, and among the most grave is using the name and form of devotional service as a cover for material ambition and institutional corruption. Food distributed under such conditions carries the contamination of these offenses.
What Should the Sincere Devotee Do
The scriptures and Prabhupada’s own example point clearly:
Regarding such food:
∙ A devotee who understands the situation should avoid accepting it as transcendental prasadam
∙ It may be accepted as ordinary food if necessary in a social situation, but not as spiritually purifying prasadam
∙ One should not distribute it to others as prasadam, as this spreads the contamination under a false label
Regarding such temples:
∙ The Hari Bhakti Vilasa and the precedent of the Goswamis support maintaining respectful distance from institutionally compromised worship rather than participating in it
∙ Darshan of the Lord’s form is never entirely without value — the Lord in His mercy may still be present to some degree — but the sincere devotee should be clear-eyed about what institution they are supporting through their attendance and donation
Regarding one’s own worship:
∙ Home worship at one’s own altar, connected directly to Srila Prabhupada through his books, recordings, and direct instructions — this is the safest and most authentic connection available to a sincere devotee in the current situation
∙ Prabhupada himself authorized home worship and said his books would serve as the living guru for those who could not access a physically present qualified spiritual master
∙ The Bhagavatam 1.2.8 confirms: “The first-class devotee worships the Lord within his heart.” The Lord is always available through sincere internal worship to the devotee who has no access to external institutional support
Regarding association:
∙ Seek out other sincere Prabhupadanugas — devotees who have taken shelter directly of Srila Prabhupada’s teachings and have not followed deviated gurus
∙ Such association, even in small numbers, carries more genuine spiritual potency than large institutional gatherings built on a compromised foundation
∙ The Bhagavatam assures us that even one genuine saintly association is enough to begin the process of liberation
The Compassionate Conclusion
Srila Prabhupada foresaw exactly this situation. He repeatedly warned that after his departure, unscrupulous men would attempt to take over his movement and exploit his disciples. He said the solution was always the same:
“My books will be the law books for the next ten thousand years.”
The sincere devotee who takes direct shelter of Prabhupada’s books, chants the Hare Krishna maha-mantra with attention and feeling, offers simple food at their home altar with genuine love, and maintains their connection to the Bhagavatam’s teachings — that devotee is fully connected to the parampara.
No institutional corruption, no deviated guru, no usurped temple can sever the direct connection between a sincere soul and Krishna through Prabhupada’s teachings. The Lord Himself guarantees in the Bhagavad-gita 18.65-66:
“Always think of Me, become My devotee, worship Me and offer your homage unto Me. Thus you will come to Me without fail. Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reactions. Do not fear.”
This promise belongs to every sincere devotee — regardless of what institutional chaos surrounds them. 
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