RE: BANU SWAMI
PADA: Thanks BB prabhu, yep Banu swami is simply trying to make up excuses for all of his program's mis-behavior. He is a GBC apologist. And he is not initiating people himself, until the GBC writes a position paper to define the role of their diksha gurus. Yes. They are gurus, but they have no idea what is a guru?
The only thing they know for sure, they are authorized to have Vaishnavas banned, beat, molested, sued and shot to death. That is the only clear or practical application part of their doctrine. Yeah, he probably knows Radhanath was glorifying Sulochana's murderer. How could he not know?
Srila Prabhupada says whoever checks the progress or activity of a Vaishnava is going to hell, never mind wholesale banning, beating, suing, molesting and killing them. Of course Banu forgets that there is no one here in SF Bay to even read his official GBC papers, if they ever even make one, since the temples are empty and none of the Hindus who come on Sunday have ever read any GBC papers, they don't care.
A friend of PADA says he regularly smokes pot with four ex-ISKCON Prabhupada disciples, ok they don't care if the GBC writes another document, it has no meaning to almost anyone. They have cried wolf way too many times.
Meanwhile a friend of mine was asking Mukunda swami about previous statements in their previous papers, and Mukunda said he was not aware of these statements -- i.e. they do not even read their own papers, nevermind others.
But you are right, he does not tell us what that paper should say? That means he needs to consult with the other members of their homosexual and pedophile messiah's club to figure all this out, he cannot figure it out on his own. He is dependent on people who bury homosexuals and pedophiles in samadhi like Radhanath to make any conclusion. That means he is not independent, he has to wait for the homosexual and pedophile messiah lover's club to make a decision, and he will join them.
Your next question: Does he not know that a homosexual and pedophile guru program that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas is not authorized? I think he knows very well, he is a very intelligent guy. I think he is very aware of what his program is all about.
The reason he defends it? Good question. I think the only rational explanation is, he is part of their agenda. And that is why he is their star scholar apologist. But yeah you are right, as soon as Banu says they are only postal peons, but then the job of their God's alleged postal peons is to ban, beat, molest, sue and kill Vaishnavas, makes no sense whatever.
The humble peons of God and -- the molester messiah's project -- that rapes children "industrial scale" and kills the people who object. How are they God's peons? This is really amazing that he does not even know what is God's peon. Or he knows, and he wants to pervert the whole meaning for sinister reasons.
Does he not know this makes no sense? I would say yes, he is just trying to fool the few fools they have left remaining. Everyone else knows God's postal peon is not making homosexuals and pedophiles into messiahs who ban, beat, molest, sue and kill God's devotees. Yep, I think he knows that too, which means yep, he is scamming people. OK I would say yes, he is intentionally lying to defend the club, which he has done all along.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
Re: A LETTER FROM VRINDAVANA
Dear Prabhus,
Humble obeisances to all you precious Vaishnavas. A member who attended the recent gala festivities in Vrindavana has written to convey some thoughts on the state of ISKCON today. On one hand, the Hare Krishna Movement is a successful world-wide phenomenon. This all due to the Shrila Prabhupada’s strictly adhering to the pure message of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. Yet, it is no secret that real leadership in ISKCON is sorely lacking today. Here are our member’s thoughts …
Where Are the Leaders?
This year (2025), I attended the 50th anniversary of the Shri Krishna-Balarama ISKCON center at Raman-Reti, Vrindavana. It was indeed very blissful to be among three generations of devotees engaged in spiritual activities. We had all come together to celebrate how Krishna consciousness has spread all over the world in the past half century, by the incredible spiritual potency of His Divine Grace Shrila Prabhupada.
Yet, among the congregation of blissful bhaktas, the absence of many of the so-called leaders of the Hare Krishna Movement was an obvious sore point. While the majority of GBC and swamis were a no-show, the devotees in attendance—the ones that the GBC and swamis consider their rank-and-filers—were blissfully on their own.
This is a great irony because when they die, ISKCON’s so-called leaders hanker for their own samadhi tombs in Vrindavana, yet when the opportunity arises for them to come to the dhama alive and in the flesh, they are nowhere to be seen. Here in Vrindavana, there are tombs of past ISKCON gurus that include a vicious child molester, a drunkard, a mundane humanitarian, a pornography addict, a woman.
Aren’t samadhis intended for genuine renunciants, or has the GBC turned the land of Krishna into a graveyard for their shudra cronies?
I made a few inquiries about why so few “leaders” showed up for the celebration. The answer I received most often is that they are afraid to face a congregation of elder devotees—their own Godbrothers and Godsisters. Why would these guilt-ridden personalities be afraid of being judged by whatever few Prabhupada disciples remain alive?
After all, nearly all of Srila Prabhupada’s initiates were basically thrown out of ISKCON by the GBC during their infamous zone-a-phile storm trooper era. Thousands of them were sent off to die in some forgotten and lonely isolation. Basically, the disciples that remained in ISKCON had the benefit of some cushy position. The payment and perks-wallas.
The GBC is still chained to a bleak period of ISKCON history when imitation “Prabhupadas” overthrew common sense and claimed to be “successor acharyas.” There has never been any serious atonement on their part, except for a few flaccid “Dear John emails” saying, “Sorry about that, folks.”
In short, any member of the GBC, or any guru, or any minister rubber-stamped by them, remains ball-and-chain attached to a gurgling cesspool of rotten karma for which there has never been proper prayaschitta by ISKCON leadership.
Anyone who joins a gang or criminal organization immediately becomes susceptible to, and liable for, the group’s bad karma. The predictable GBC response to their past sins that still sits like dust under their carpet has always been secrecy and seclusion. They hide themselves away in their regular meetings in fear that the dust they created might make itself known.
And they make reams and of important resolutions, every year adding numbers of committees that no one cares about, and position papers that no one even reads, even they don't know what most of their resolutions stated, or why. Meanwhile the numbers of GBC is diminishing more all the time as their members leave, bloop, retire, and die off. And they cannot find suitable replacements, because almost no one wants to be in their club.
They are like a secret society that bands behind a smokescreen of joyful-sounding interfaith rubbish meant to placate the ignorant public and keep genuine thinkers at bay. Disinformation is the function of their blubbering old mouthpiece, Rukmini’s husband Anuttama dasa, and their smoke-and-mirrors website ISKCON “News.” News that no one cares about, temples that people no longer go to, GBC pontificating statements -- no one listens to.
Meanwhile dozens and dozens of encyclopedic volumes, media articles, books, films, and television shows -- are being produced in wave after wave all the time -- not only by disenfranchised devotees, but also by scholars, media and others. All this and more has emerged explaining in no couched terms the real function of GBC and cohorts, which is evidently, hiding crimes.
Prabhupada repeatedly mentioned that after the disappearance of the acharya, many malicious predators appear who throw his sacred works into chaos. Dressed in the finery of a paramhamsa, Kali himself invades and pollutes the holy atmosphere that the bona fide spiritual master created with his blood, sweat and tears. Adorned with saffron cloth and false symbols of spiritual realization, Kali’s cohorts illegally climb upon the holy seat of the pure devotee to destroy genuine Krishna consciousness.
Then, once they are ensconced in a smoky aura of presumed sanctity, Kali and his sinister agents proceed to make a mockery out of true devotional service by funneling the worship intended for the guru parampara onto themselves. Thus, the predators accumulate temple funds and utilize their ill-gotten gains for their own selfish, sensual gratification.
The predator’s free enjoyment—which the unfortunate rank-and-file has paid for—takes the form of illicit sexual intercourse, gold watches, luxury apartments, bungalows, health retreats, rich cuisine, and free servants who carry out his every wish. Such exploitative behavior has been displayed so openly, and with such predictable frequency by ISKCON’s callous GBC, that their zombified following think being exploited by them is business as usual. However, becoming a member of ISKCON should not mean that an innocent seeker should become a servile victim of Stockholm syndrome.
Considering all these factors, it is no wonder that ISKCON’s “leaders” did not show their faces for the festivities. Their show-bottle guru pretension can no longer be hidden. Literally, thousands of members of ISKCON’s are clamoring for restoration to the way that Prabhupada designed his movement. Even if the awakening devotees are too polite to directly confront the guru hijackers and the GBC’s rubber stampees, the clownish imitation acharyas know exactly what everyone thinks of their behavior.
Hence, ISKCON’s leadership chose to hide out in their private castles, rather than face the sidelong glances of disgust from their peers.
It seems that the leaders of today’s ISKCON would prefer to show their faces at their church-like social events they call “sadhu sangas,” where they can exert some control. At such parties, ISKCON’s gurus know they will get the worship they crave from their automatons, because expensive tickets are sold at the door. This tactic conveniently serves as a simple means of excluding any vile critics.
Instead, only a parade of cult-blinded fans flush with cash will pour in and occupy their spot on the folding chairs. They sit like zombies before the rock-star stage from which sahajiya kirtans and harangues by the likes of Radhanath or other compliant swamis conveniently packaged and branded as “nectar” are the order of the day.
At the Krishna-Balarama 50th festival, as I chanted my daily quota of rounds at Shrila Prabhupada’s samadhi, it was almost as if I could hear the thoughts of His Divine Grace emanating from the shrine. Was it my imagination, or was I hearing the Founder-Acharya? Some of the thought that came to me were:
-- “How could the GBC have allowed illegal changes to the books? And how could they have spent millions of dollars to hide the originals and list Shrila Prabhupada as their “worker for hire,” after changing the BBT from a trust to the BBT(I) corporation? When will they come to their senses and restore the books back to the original way?”
-How could men who pose as successor acharyas become rapists of children as soon as no one was looking? And even after the guru and swami pedophiles bankrupted ISKCON in the Turley Lawsuit, how is that child molestation was still allowed to continue in ISKCON gurukulas for decades?
-How is it that thousands of worthy preacher-disciples were kicked out of the ashrams after they had given up their very lives to the spiritual master? Why were so many devotees either removed, beaten, or even killed, to keep them from exposing the truth about GBC corruption?
-- Why was Pradyumna Panditji removed as the translator of the ongoing Bhagavatam project in favor of a bag of hot wind who thinks he is a holy teacher with a college degree?
-When will the “millionaire swamis” give up their huge bank balances and learn to rely on Krishna alone?
-Why is the GBC allowing Kali-yuga Mayavadi “swamis” to be glorified in books written by a GBC member to be sold in over a dozen languages in ISKCON centers? Why is the GBC publishing a book about the Bible’s Old Testament? Do not Bhagavad-gita As It Is and Srimad-Bhagavatam have enough information? Did not Prabhupada state, “I have given you everything”?
-When will the GBC take to heart Prabhupada’s repeated pleas about becoming humble servants of Krishna’s servants.
-When will ISKCON’s overly-agreeable swamis stop initiating Hindu professionals who flatter them, and who purchase their initiations with large bribes (errr…“donations”)?
-- When will ISKCON’s swamis insist that their Hindu initiates should know the ABC’s about preaching to everyone they meet (or at those they work with) instead of merely inviting other Hindus for dinner in a ruse of “bhakti-vriksha”? Greedy ISKCON swamis have thus made a Mayavadic mishmash out of the once-strict Gaudiya Vaishnava principles that ISKCON was meant to stand for?
-- Mission drift has taken the ISKCON ship thousands of miles off course into very dangerous and uncharted waters of Mayavada.
-- When will ISKCON stop conforming and compromising with mundane so-called “religions”?
--- When will the GBC stop wholesaling the Hare Krishna Movement as a Hindu organization in order to attract cheap followers along with their donations?
-- When will ISKCON stop paying salaries to Indian pujaris and “devotees”?
-- When will Bhaktivedanta Manor become a place of genuine devotional service again, instead of a Hinduized business?
In short, although I found the 50th anniversary celebration at ISKCON Vrindavana blissful, I have returned home sadder but wiser. Since it is well known that ISKCON’s GBC members clandestinely read the messages from the A.I.S.F., I am hoping that they will consider these thoughts and bring the society they pretend to lead back on track again, because an objective look at ISKCON management reveals a cesspool of corruption.
Your servant, (Name withheld)
M Dasi: Banu swami answers questions? Me thinks ... no. Raises more questions than answers. I cannot be a guru until the GBC makes a decision ... what is a guru. And the GBC will write a NEW paper ... what is a GBC guru. And they have not wrote anything good since 1978.
ReplyDeleteAre they even working on a new paper now? It does not seem so. Where is the new paper?
No worries, we will have the crap beat out of you fool people who do not accept our gurus already. Our newly made drink is making people sick and die over and over. Sorry, you'll have to drink it while we test and study ... is it harmful. What?
Our gurus are causing molesting and even death, you'll still have to accept them, while we make a study to see if they are bona fide. Really? Sounds like the Killer Clowns movie I saw 10 years ago.
They might be clowns, they might be killers, we have to make a study. Really? You don't know by now? Wherever your clowns are going, people are suffering. Maybe? Might be, they are not really clowns but ... dangerous to human life. Or is Banu one of the clowns, covering for his friends? I know, he cannot answer.
MMD: My confidence in GBC gurus has really been boosted! Now I know ... after all the giant sh*t show we have seen ... Banu swami is FINALLY going to make a "guru paper" telling us ... what is a GBC guru. FINALLY! That means ... they didn't know what is a guru ... up to now. But they are working on finding out NOW. About time!
ReplyDeleteWe finally get to know what their gurus are really doing. I can't wait ... to find out what they are going to say now. Going to make a paper telling us what is guru, after they fooled us all this time ... that they knew already. Are we supposed to take this seriously?
We are gurus, while we never knew what a guru is, but we are working on it. I got an idea! Maybe you should FIRST be gurus, then write a paper what is a guru later on. Yeezus freaking sakes!
We are gurus, but we never wrote a paper telling you ... what kind of gurus we are. Isn't it a little late? ISKCON is a nearly dead basket case, almost ready for the morgue, and the post mortem autopsy. I suggest, a criminal forensic ISKCON autopsy. Ordered by legal authorities when death is suspicious, unexpected, or involves criminal investigation.
They did a lot of HORRIBLE things to THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE to make their guru system run ... which most of us think ... is criminal. First of all? Making yourselves into gurus ... without writing a paper about what is a guru, sounds like criminal and fraud right out the door. Sounds like lies, fraud and deceit to me.
What does it really matter now? We all know what it takes to be a GBC guru. You'll need to be a lusty hog ... or an attack dog defender of other lusty dogs and hogs ... posing as gurus.
We all know what your paper will say before you even wrote one. We know what you accept as bona fide for gurus, and what you reject. And you accept deviants, perps and perverts as gurus and not pure people as gurus. There, done! I wrote your paper for you!