RRD: Dayanidi Is in Greece. Not Italy.
AD: The attached photo shows Dayanidhi at the Tribogna temple just a week ago, proof that he keeps coming back. As for all the scams he pulled at that temple, they’re public knowledge. Most of them date back to his time as president, which lasted until around 2020, when Prabhu Das took over. After 2020 he was sent to Athens by Madhusevita, as already mentioned in the post. Do your homework!
FD: What difference does that make? These leaders always have their enforcement followers (spies) in different places who keep a lid on things as they order.
=================
SIVARAMA ON RITVIKS
PADA: Sivarama is still saying that his illicit sex with men, women and children; and / or homosexual and pedophile guru parampara folks -- are fit to be gurus -- and making "their own disciples." It is somewhat amazing that Srila Prabhupada says -- the guru must be a resident of Krishna loka, whereas Sivarama swami thinks the residents of Krishna loka are engaged in mundane lusty affairs. Which means, he is insulting the residents of Krishna loka since 1978.
OK these gurus are: residents of Krishna loka, rati keli assistants of the gopis, as pure as Jesus -- and as pure as the rest of the gurus in the parampara, and thus they can absorb sins acting as a diksha guru, and take us to to their home place of residence on Krishna loka.
Wait? They cannot even resolve their own sins, never mind other's sins. And then again Sivarama keeps bringing up the false idea that their illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara is "the tradition" of our pure devotee guru's parampara. Nope! Pure devotees do not behave like debauchees, but even the regular Joe six pack karmis are not commonly "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children." Even they have a higher standard than the GBC guru process.
Then he says his illicit sex gurus are the same as the other gurus in the Brahma sampradaya, Sri Sampradaya and so on. Which means he is insulting all the other bona fide paramparas as well as ours. How are illicit sex deviants as pure as Lord Brahma and other great personalities? They aren't.
And then he says the Gaudiya Matha's (sometimes debauchee) gurus were as authorized as Srila Prabhupada to be gurus. OK homosexuals, illicit sex and assorted deviants are gurus -- who are as authorized as Srila Prabhupada. Nope!
Sivarama also does not show where the 11 GBC were specifically appointed as gurus. And if everyone was supposed to be guru, why were only the 11 made to be the exclusive gurus? And the appointment tape also says initiations in the future will be conducted by -- ritviks.
Rather amazingly, Sivarama says that his homosexual and pedophile gurus program "can accept disciples unlimitedly." Well no, a conditioned soul is not authorized to take sins from others, never mind unlimited others.
Sorry, the system is -- we cannot worship conditioned souls as gurus, especially those who are falling down left, right and center. Yep. Sivarama simply does not explain how his homosexual and pedophile gurus are "part of the tradition"? Then Sivarama says it is common for Krishna's successor gurus to fall down left, right and center, and this is common in the Gaudiya guru tradition. Ummm nope it is not.
The good news is, more people are asking about the ritvik idea. And the person debating Sivarama makes a good point, the GBC system is a failure, their gurus are falling into disrepute, scandals, bad media, lawsuits etc. which means they are not authorized. Sivarama just says guru scandals are common, well maybe in his system, but there are none in our actual parampara. Yep!
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
=================
On the contrary, Sivarama Swami comes across as an arrogant bully, even going so far as to suggest that the inquiring devotee on the left commit suicide for questioning the legitimacy of the current stock of ISKCON's so-called 'gurus', many of whom have fallen down, and none of whom were appointed to their positions by Srila Prabhupada.
This is ironic, considering that Sivarama Swami himself acknowledges, near the end of the video, that the ISKCON gurus are not on the same level as Srila Prabhupada. I intepret this statement to mean that ISKCON gurus are not liberated souls like Srila Prabhupada, hence, they cannot liberate their own followers.
Sivarama Swami does a great disservice to Srila Prabhupada by consciously diverting the public from surrendering to Srila Prabhupada directly via His Unchanged Vani, and pressuring them with arrogance and brutality that they must instead take Dīkṣā (eternal spiritual initiation) from fallen souls like himself, who are not Swan-like, Graceful Pure Devotees of the Lord like Srila Prabhupada, but are simply ordinary men who are not capable of granting spiritual salvation to their followers, due to their own mixed motives and materialistic conditioning.
Thus, those who take their supposed shelter will find themselves unfortunately frustrated in their attempt to reach the Lord's Lotus Feet and go back Home, back to Godhead.
On the other hand, those Fortunate and Intelligent Souls who surrender themselves directly and uncompromisingly at the Lotus Feet of Srila Prabhupada, willingly adopting and following His Transcendental Instructions as their Life and Soul, will make an ultimate, total success of their material and spiritual lives. It is simply a matter of time.
Hare Kṛṣṇa 
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada !
======
PADA: Srila Prabhupada told us many, many times, if we allow people to touch our feet we will be acting like diksha gurus, taking sins. That will make us get sick, fall down or both. Of course many of them died. He said, only a pure devotee has the brahmana tejyas to burn off sins, and if you neophytes take sins "you will have to suffer" and they are suffering. So yes, this question was answered many times, none of you neophytes should attempt to take other's sins, but they neglected that instruction.
Hare Krsna Community,
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada !======
PADA: Srila Prabhupada told us many, many times, if we allow people to touch our feet we will be acting like diksha gurus, taking sins. That will make us get sick, fall down or both. Of course many of them died. He said, only a pure devotee has the brahmana tejyas to burn off sins, and if you neophytes take sins "you will have to suffer" and they are suffering. So yes, this question was answered many times, none of you neophytes should attempt to take other's sins, but they neglected that instruction.
=================
HELP NEEDED
I am looking for a personal loan while we are selling our house.
We are not able to pay the Mortgage due the 15th, plus my personal bills, like car insurance, car payment, etc. I was recently in a car accident at the end of July and I haven't unable to work right now since I suffered a neck and back injury.
Please contact me if you are able to help me out during this difficult time, or if you can direct me to someone that can. Rukmini 352 317-1464
Please contact me if you are able to help me out during this difficult time, or if you can direct me to someone that can. Rukmini 352 317-1464
========
===
Lock up your wives and daughters.
Our government cannot (read: will not) protect them.
Sounds wonderful! For the predators.
Yup. You are NOT going to be protected.
HANSADUTTA UPDATE
PADA: Fortunately for me, after Hansadutta sent all the Berkeley devotees to New Vrndavana, the FEDS were tapping his phone there, and actually all the New Vrndavana phones. So the FEDS put undercover agents on my tail, because they found out Hansadutta was sending three of his enforcers from NV back to Berkeley to "take out Puranjana once and for all." In short, the Hansadutta plan was to have me put into the graveyard.
PADA: Fortunately for me, after Hansadutta sent all the Berkeley devotees to New Vrndavana, the FEDS were tapping his phone there, and actually all the New Vrndavana phones. So the FEDS put undercover agents on my tail, because they found out Hansadutta was sending three of his enforcers from NV back to Berkeley to "take out Puranjana once and for all." In short, the Hansadutta plan was to have me put into the graveyard.
But the FEDS told me they had to use me as bait, and when his enforcers started to chase me down the street, the law enforcement came out of their undercover cars and arrested his men. A few years later when I told Hansadutta his plan of having me removed from the planet was not very authorized, he just laughed and said "we all went mad, that is what happened." No, we did not all go mad, you did. And coming after me was not madness, it was a highly calculated and planned operation. ys pd
====
Let's break this down point by point:
====
Russia News: ISKCON CONSTITUTION
According to the ISKCON Constitution, an "appointed guru" of the GBC is equal to an ordinary congregation.
According to the ISKCON Constitution, an "appointed guru" of the GBC is equal to an ordinary congregation.
Let's break this down point by point:
1. Who are the "appointed gurus" of the GBC from the perspective of the legitimate system?
In the system established by Prabhupada in the "Direction of Management," the position of "appointed guru" does not exist. The GBC is an administrative body created to "manage and supervise operations." Its members are managers, not ex-officio spiritual masters.
Therefore, anyone who declares themselves a "guru" based on the decision of this administrative committee is in a position not stipulated by the ISKCON Constitution. In terms of legitimacy in Prabhupada's system, they are:
· Lower than a legitimate temple president elected by the congregation, because the position of president is prescribed by the system, while the position of "appointed guru" is not.
· Equal to an ordinary parishioner in administrative rights, as he does not possess legitimate authority granted either by the congregation (like the president) or by a board of presidents (like the GBC).
Conclusion: In legitimate ISKCON, an "appointed guru" of the GBC is an administrator who has assumed a spiritual title without being authorized to do so by the system. His "spiritual" status is illegal within the organization.
2. Contradiction with shastra: Guru vs. Administrator.
In sastra, the guru is placed on the highest pedestal: "No one is more precious than the guru." But this is a fundamental misunderstanding.
A true guru, as described in sastra, is:
1. Self-manifested, not appointed by a committee. His authority derives from his purity, realized knowledge, and the mercy of Krishna, not from a vote or resolution.
2. Has no higher authority in spiritual matters. He is subordinate only to the guru and Krishna.
A GBC "appointed guru" is:
1. Proclaimed by the people. His "status" is delegated to him by a group of administrators (GBC), who themselves lack the spiritual purity to recognize a true guru.
2. Subordinate to a higher authority—the very GBC that appointed him. The GBC can block his status, remove him, or punish him. In other words, the administrator is above the "guru."
This is the main blasphemy and contradiction.
In the shastra, the King (administrator) bows at the feet of the Saint (guru). In the GBC system, the "Saint" (appointed guru) is obliged to obey the orders of the "King" (GBC). They have turned the hierarchy upside down.
3. To whom do the "appointed gurus" report? The answer is the "usurpation of power" scheme.
Let's look at the chain of command that has developed in modern ISKCON:
Chain of Usurpation:
Illegitimate GBC (self-appointed) -> appoints presidents -> appoints "gurus" -> "guru" accepts disciples -> disciples are obligated to obey the "guru" -> "guru" is obligated to obey the GBC.
Summary: Through the system of "appointed gurus," the GBC gains total control over the minds and lives of thousands of devotees. A disciple, thinking they are listening to the guru, is actually indirectly listening to the orders of a self-appointed administrative committee.
Thus, the "appointed guru" is a subordinate employee or "spiritual affairs manager" in a corporation controlled by the GBC. They are subordinate to their parishioner-disciples only in rhetoric, but in reality, they are subordinate to their
GBC bosses.
Summary and Conclusion:
1. Legitimacy: "Appointed Gurus" have no legitimate status in Prabhupada's system. Their position is a product of usurpation.
2. Spiritual Status: Their subordination to the Administrative Committee (GBC) is a direct violation of the sastric principle of guru supremacy. This creates a system where the administrator is superior to the saint.
3. Real Hierarchy: They are pawns in the hands of the illegitimate GBC, instruments for controlling the masses of devotees. Their power over disciples is illusory, since the real power lies with those who hired them and can fire them.
Therefore, the demand to return to the system of electing GBC and presidents is not merely an administrative reform. It is a spiritual necessity to break the vicious system in which corrupt administrators have arrogated to themselves the right to appoint and dismiss "saints," perverting the very principle of disciplic succession.
No comments:
Post a Comment
Note: Only a member of this blog may post a comment.