Monday, October 20, 2025

ISKCON's Banu Swami: Listening to Srila Prabhupada is Bogus Ritvik Idea 10 20 25

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PADA: Banu Swami now claims that the reason the ritviks are bogus is because -- they have people listen to Srila Prabhupada's gayatri tape, and the ritviks are not getting gayatri from the GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children / homosexual and pedophile / guru parampara. In other words, Banu is very worried people will be listening to the voice of a pure devotee -- and not his pedophile messiah's club's voices. In short, Banu is saying -- listening to Srila Prabhupada's tape is a deviation and is verbotten. 


How can Banu's program keep having people come to Vrndavana to worship their pedophile samadhi's club, if they are worshiping the ACTUAL pure devotee's samadhi instead? This is very worrisome for Banu's pedophile's samadhi group, there will be people drifting off to worship a pure devotee and that would harm their sexual predators of minors samadhi's program.

This is very unfortunately their whole platform, do not listen to the pure devotee, you will become contaminated, you must listen to the deviated parampara's folks exclusively. Then you will really be contaminated!

Well at least Banu admits -- he thinks listening to tapes of pure devotees -- and not his illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara of debauchees -- is a serious deviation. Of course, the Banu program is famous for saying -- worship of the pure devotee is "the bogus Christian ritvik idea" because -- same thing, the Christians don't worship pedophiles and predators as their messiahs. 

Worse, Banu's program will spend $20,000,000 suing anyone who worships a pure devotee, and they will hire lawyers to shut down a child protection forum on Facebook. Anyone who wants to stop children from worshiping predators must be stopped by Banu's program! Of course the Banu program already tried to stop me and Sulochana with .45 slugs. 

Banu Swami is still promoting the idea that a conditioned soul can give diksha, and absorb sins like Jesus. Nope. Srila Prabhupada says only an uttama has the brahmana tejyas which can burn off sins. And anyone else who attempts to take sins will become contaminated, and indeed Srila Prabhupada says these false gurus will eventually become degraded. Worse, these false gurus are destined for the most obnoxious regions. And so are the followers.

Banu's GBC folks wrote a "Parallel Line of Authority" paper where they essentially said -- both tracks are bona fide: Srila Prabhupada is one track, and their homosexual, pedophile, intoxicated, debauchee, porno swami, machine gun swami et al. -- guru process -- is the other track, and both are equal and parallel. 

Really? That means Banu does not have a clue that a pure devotee's guru line and a debauchee's line are not equal and parallel. Where does Srila Prabhupada say worshiping Banu's illicit sex with men, women and children guru system is the same as worshiping Krishna's guru system? He is just making things up as he goes along. None of this is EVER stated anywhere in shastra.

Umm wait, one track on the Banu guru process goes to heaven, one track goes to hell, good question, how are they equal? Even any average hamburger eating person knows, worshiping Jesus is probably a good idea, whereas worshiping the town drunk who is chasing skirts -- ok not such a good idea. Banu does not even know what the hamburger people know by now? There is no parallel anything here. What are they even talking about, less than kanisthas are to be juxtaposed with uttama devotees as parallel.

Now Banu is saying we are mainly a shiksha line, which is also like the ritvik idea, where neophytes are acting as agents or postmen for the acharyas. Sounds good! Oooops! Unfortunately, as soon as ISKCON finds out people are promoting the idea of neophytes acting as agents for the acharyas (or ritviks), and not promoting conditioned souls -- if not debauchees -- as Jesus-like diksha gurus, they are banned, beaten, sued and sometimes killed. 

Meanwhile, most of the maybe over 100 gurus the Banu GBC has made -- have got very sick, fallen down, and many died prematurely from taking sins and committing offenses. Banu has been encouraging these deviated neophytes to take sins, so he is part responsible for making them suffer and fall down. And create all sorts of chaos in the process. And the followers do not get their sins resolved. OK all this is called cheating.

Every day the ISKCON temples chant the samsara prayers to the guru, which in Banu Swami's ISKCON includes: persons engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children; homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks, drug addicts, porno swamis etc. This is the program Banu swami says is acting as an electrical conduit to Krishna? 

We think -- not so much. He has no idea what is a bona fide connection to Krishna and what is not. How can we say an uttama is a conduit to Krishna, and so is a drunken womanizing guru parampara also a conduit? Where is any of this stated in shastra? Banu just ad hoc makes up stuff one after the next. 

A guru program full of deviants is not connecting anyone to God, and that is why Banu swami gets "voted in as guru" into the GBC system in 1990, just when we are suing his "conduit to Krishna" program for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse. He thinks this is all valid and authorized evidently. In 1990 he should have joined us and said hey, all this child starving, beating and raping program is -- not only bogus but dangerous. Instead, he becomes the star scholarly defender of their program.

He says the GBC now needs to write another "guru position paper" to correct its previous bogus position on guru. You mean -- gurus are deviating left, right and center, and then have to sit around and write bogus position papers on what is bona fide behavior for gurus? And the previous paper is bogus and needs to be corrected, because gurus write bogus documents. They are gurus, therefore, what they write is -- bogus -- and needs re-dos over and over. Why is Banu establishing that the guru's writings are -- faulty and bogus?

They are gurus and they do not even know what a guru is? 

Then Banu swami says we should see the GBC gurus as Madhyam gurus. Maybe. But Srila Prabhupada says that the Madhyam can fail and become an asura, so the Madhyam should not be taken as a liberated soul. He says a sadhana bhakta is a type of uttama, no -- because he does not have the brahmana tejyas to burn off sins. Of course now we are mixing Vodka and illicit sex gurus with Madhyam, which is another classic GBC bait and switch mistake. There is no connection here.

Nor does the Madhyam have prema, so he cannot give prema. Banu merges all this together with no clarity. "We are all postmen and so is Srila Prabhupada," he claims. You mean, Banu's guru people who are drinking Vodka and having sex with half dozen women -- are on the same postmen plane as Srila Prabhupada? 

He is conflating / telescoping / and confusing these terms. Banu says any persons giving instructions are a type of guru, yes that is called shiksha guru aka the agent or ritvik system. That means he cannot claim to be a liberating sin absorbing uttama guru. 

Meanwhile Srila Prabhupada says we cannot offer bhogha to conditioned souls, but this is done all the time in Banu's ISKCON. That is why Jadurani said they have become a bhogha eating society. Banu is a big scholar, who has never even understood the difference between bhogha and prasadam. 

Then again, offering bhogha to illicit sex deviants contaminates the food with a debauchee beeja, which explains why there are so many scandals, if not violence against women and children, going on all the time with the Banu program's followers. Yep, another female victim who exposed her abuse is now getting DEATH THREATS from the Banu program's followers. These people are lower than animals and this is -- a conduit to Krishna?

Banu keeps trying to say that the Madhyam is qualified to give diksha and absorb sins like Jesus, but this was never stated by Srila Prabhupada. Moreover, it looks like many of his alleged Madhyam diksha gurus are falling into abominable behaviors, which means they are not even lower level kanisthas. 

Banu just merges all this around without making it clear, people who are engaged in abominable behaviors are less than kanisthas, and are thus not authorized to even become temple bhakta program residents. They should not even be allowed to live in a temple. 

But nope, they are guru postmen too? How it possible that less than kanisthas should be claiming to be taking sins like Jesus, and be God's postman? And now Guru Prasad is arguing that Giriraj's getting oral sex from a female disciple is because he went senile. No, he went back to what he always was, a lusty conditioned soul. He was never a guru.

Banu swami says other guru paramparas, like the Madhavas, consider Madhva to be the deliverer, not the local village guru. But the ritviks are bogus, because they consider Srila Prabhupada to be the deliverer. Oh wait, I forgot, Banu has people eating bhogha offered to his homosexual and pedophile sampradaya, which will deliver the followers but -- to hell. Srila Prabhupada told me personally, if we change his bhogha offering system IT WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTED by Krishna. 

Banu does not even know what prasadam is or is not. But then again, there may be a reason he wants people to eat his homosexual and pedophile beeja contaminated food, so he can pollute the ISKCON society.

Banu has no idea what it means to worship a deliverer acharya. He says the other sampradayas can do that, but we cannot or we will be bogus ritviks. Well yup, how will Banu's program get people to worship those voted into their pedo and porno sampradaya if they worship Srila Prabhupada as their deliverer? 

Basically, his whole lecture is full of contradictions. We can worship pure devotees as the deliverer, that is bona fide, except -- anyone who worships Srila Prabhupada is a bogus ritvik -- because then they are not worshiping the GBC's homosexual and pedophile samadhi parampara. And they should be sued for $20,000,000 to stop them from worshiping Srila Prabupada. That means he is arguing with his own shadow. 

Anyway there you have it, anyone who listens to a tape of Srila Prabhupada is bogus, because they are not listening to tapes of Banu's illicit sex with men, women and children guru process. Told ya! The only good news is, someone asked him, isn't his postal peon idea the ritvik idea? The bad news is, he answers by saying it is bogus to listen to a tape of a pure devotee. 

We have to listen to the tapes of deviant people in Banu's homosexual and pedophile samadhi program if we want to be delivered, and we will be delivered, to hell. Banu says it will take 20 years to fix ISKCON. Nope, in 20 years the temples will be all owned and managed by Hindus, and there will be no GBC managed ISKCON. The GBC is handing over ISKCON to the Hindus, whom Srila Prabhupada says, are hodge podge, and maybe 50% of them eat meat etc. Banu's program does not want ISKCON to be fixed, they want it to go full Hindu, and it is.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com  


Banu's program is still promoting their best star child abuser on their calendar. Naturally, victims of Banu's program have been infuriated with this calendar, for good reason. It does seem like the Banu program is always trying to poke a stick in the eyes of their victims, and this is being done constantly and consciously. Why is the Banu program always doing this -- to pour vinegar into the wounds of their victims? One victim told me "these people are sadistic and evil monsters, just like the people they advertise on their calendar." Well yep. ys pd

5 comments:

  1. JD: Anyone who said they are Prabhupada's postman around here used to get beat up and tossed out. That is no longer a problem. It is all Hindu now, and they don't care. They go to Hindu temples, they go to ISKCON temples, they see nothing different. Because it isn't different.

    Banu GBC has made life impossible for anyone who wants to be Prabhupada's postman. They wanted this ... to get rid of all the Western people ... to make it all Hindu. That was always the plan.

    They wanted to make Prabhupada's postmen ... no longer part of ISKCON. And they have done that. No surprise they are suing Prabhupada's postmen ... to get rid of them too.

    Not saying Banu is gay, but he sure is in love with his gay guru sampradaya isn't it? Wonder why?

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  2. RMD: OMG. Prabhupada is postman, I am postman, you are postman, homosexual man is postman, sex with boys is postman, my dog is postman, really easy job to be Krishna's postman! He is making it sound like anyone can be Krishna's postman.

    Not! JD is right, anyone can be a GBC postman ... if they advertise the illicit sex guru line. As soon as they advertise Prabhupada line ... they get beat up. I have seen it myself. No one is allowed to be Prabhupada's postman, you'll get beat up. These people are goons and gangsters and nothing more. They will have Prabhupada's postman beaten up, I watched it.

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  3. SD Dasi: Not to be snarky here, what happens when you have gurus, and always having problems? It means ... they are not gurus ... they are only problem makers.

    This Banu fellow seems unable to understand basic Krishna philosophy. The guru saves people from problems, he does not create more and more problems. They created all these problems themself by making their foolish friends into "gurus."

    He says the movement will take 20 years to recover. There won't be any movement in 20 years. It will be all Hindu God men and Durga pooja, already starting. There are almost no devotees in the temples, and it is getting worse.

    The Gaudiya Matha never recovered, it went stale and has little program only. Just see how few people live in their temples. Foolish men made into gurus.

    Shocking, when Banu says listening to Srila Prabhupada's tape is the bogus ritvik idea, and no one should ever listen to Srila Prabhupada, no one complains or even notices ... this is wrong. No one is already listening to Srila Prabhupada in that camp ... or they would not be making worship of gay men who like little boys.

    For sure! Anyone who says they are Srila Prabhupada's postman can expect to get chased out of the temple. With broom sticks. I'm seeing the result ... the temple is empty. They don't want any Prabhupada postman. They will be removed. Because they don't want Prabhupada either.

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  4. Mama Bear: Heard this a million times. We are just Prabhupada's peon postal workers. But you Mother F**ks better not worship him as your guru, or you will be stoned in the public square. You have to worship us. They are not peon postmen, they want Prabhupada's seat. It is BS.

    Another thing he misses. Only a person who has actual Krishna prem can offer it to others. Nice. What happens when Banu gurus are gays and they have prem for licking other men? As we find out has been going on with his guru parampara.

    That means Banu crowd does not even know there is a difference between Krishna prem ... and prem for what is between a man's legs. His mama needs to wash his mouth out with soap and get him to glorify real gurus and not pederasts. In samadhi?

    Found a nice description of their guru parampara online: *** The term "pederast" refers to an adult—historically, typically a man—who engages in sexual activity with a boy. It originates from the Greek word paiderastēs, meaning "lover of boys," and was associated with certain cultural practices in ancient Greece, where relationships between adult men and adolescent boys were sometimes idealized in philosophical and educational contexts.

    However, in modern usage, the term is strongly associated with illegal and abusive behavior, and is considered deeply offensive and harmful. Contemporary societies universally condemn such actions as child sexual abuse, and they are criminalized under laws protecting minors.

    Wow. Contemporary society does not approve. Banu has created a society where abusers are protected and not victims. He is another one of their criminals. Oh I saw where that poor woman was getting death threats. This is not what Krishna wants, they have no idea who is God and what He wants. They are lost souls dragging others to hell with them ...

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  5. BK JJ: Has no one not noticed? Some postal peons get all the big houses, cars and servants. And big giant seats in the temples. They also get ... premium travel and health care expense paid $$$$.

    But this is what looks bad! Most other postal peons have to leave, or have the stuffing beat out of them ... or sometimes they are just cast out on the street without a penny.

    Is it just me? Or are some postal peons very greedy ... and taking all the $$$ cash out of the collection box ... and not sharing the temple booty with the other postal peons?

    To me? All this looks like ... some people are VERY greedy to take over ISKCON buildings and $$$ money. And they use "we are postal peon gurus" sales pitch trick ... to fool others into giving them all the temple $$$ funds.

    I think this is more of a $$$ business than a guru system. Banu says he is not initiating ... until GBC defines diksha gurus. Nice. We postal peons get banished, beat up, our kids molested, and maybe get killed, while they decide ... if they are gurus or not. WTF?

    These people are past masters experts at justifying all their crimes, which BTW includes ... murders, that is all there is to it. Banu obviously lying through his teeth, as we can see from his forced smile facial expression and body language.

    We are the only REAL postal peons, and that is why ... we get to kick all the rest of you bogus sheeple out and keep all the $$$ loot. This is why I believe ... Sulochana calls them, the guru business.

    That is what it is. And that is why ... they had to get him out of the way. Banu scrambling to explain all this, the kanistha is also the uttama? Huh? He looks and sounds confused, but he is the best cigarette salesman the GBC could find.

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