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Krishna1008: Mathura Pati's "International Hare Krishna Movement" etc. 03 27 24

PADA: Thanks for your question MJ prabhu. "Mathura Pati (Germany) has a nice temple program in Germany, they distribute books, and PADA should thus support his program instead of criticizing." 

OK well there are many nice temple programs, including GBC, Gaudiya Matha and numerous others that are very nice. In fact around here in the Bay Area there are many nice Hindu temples with nice deities and programs. One of those programs is the local Bangalore branch ritvik temple (near Silicon Valley) which has 40 acres, cows, gardens, go-pujas, wonderful deities and etc. 

However Mathura Pati is against these programs and us ritviks, including PADA and Madhu Pandit's program, and he criticizes us. His main criticism against PADA is -- we helped stop ISKCON's children from being starved, beaten and raped in the GBC schools -- when we helped liberate many kids (some victims say we helped hundreds get pulled out) from those schools. The Mathura Pati folks told me that is just awful because it will harm "the golden body of ISKCON." That is exactly what the GBC's pedophile guru defender folks program say as well, we are harming the great golden ISKCON. Did no one tell them, child abuse is not the golden body of guru or God? 

Evidently, Mathura Pati and his pedophile loving guru program friends believe programs that harm children are "golden bodies from God." And similarly, Madhu Pandit's program is helping feed children, and others, also awful because "it is mundane welfare work."  

OK but why would anyone attack programs that help children, or indeed save children? We helped kids from that program (they were removed from GBC schools), helped reduce the victim's suicide epidemic, helped victims get some compensation etc. And Mathura Pati has joined forces with the GBC people saying we should not have attacked their mass child molesting program, because saving children "harms the golden body of ISKCON." 

Meanwhile nearly all those children have left ISKCON because they believe it is pedophile friendly. Ooops, well it is! Children have to be harmed to save Mathura Pati's pedophile golden body? Mathura Pati also thinks I was wrong not to follow Krishna Kanta's (IRM) plan for me to take a vacation in the Caribbean under the care of Jayapataka. OK I never would have come back alive from that vacation. As some ex-kids told me "they wanted you to become shark bait in the Caribbean ocean."    

In short, Mathura Pati is infurated when he finds out we are saving children from their program. He started citing Bhakta das, that these ISKCON children are simply "stinky stools" and PADA should not be assisting these stinky stools. Amazing, when people want to know why Krishna's ISKCON children suffered so badly, well if the children are simply stinky stools, why bother helping them?

First of all, what normal person calls little children stinky stools? No normal person thinks that saving children is saving stinky stools, this is rather a very sinister view of children, and protects the pedophile program. OK it is the same idea as the pedophiles themselves, these children are simply stinky objects to be exploited.

Then Mathura Pati began to promote and support the writings of Radhanath's defenders like Bhakta das, and Bhavananada's writer Hari Sauri. Thus he is actively promoting the cheer leaders of the homosexual and pedophile acharyas program. That means he is still part of the defenders of the GBC's homosexual and pedophile guru program, and he cannot break free of them because he obviously has sympathy for them. 

He says that PADA is evil because we forwarded the molesting issue, book changes issue, poison issue and other "stinky stools" topics, which all of the rest of the ritviks accept as valid and important issues. Sulochana also said that the Radhanth people are trying to demonize us -- to take us out of our bodies, ok kill us, and he was and is correct. Why is Mathura Pati joining forces with the Sulochana assassin's cheer leaders process?  

There are no other ritviks who are promoting the Sulochana assassin's program's cheer leaders like Mathura Pati is doing. As for Hari Sauri, he was writing that me and Sulochana are sahajiyas -- and Sulochana said he is doing that to demonize us and MAKE US TARGETS FOR ASSASSINATION. Why is Mathura Pati with the Mayapur Auschwitz for kids folks? 

And the Mathura Pati people are openly repeating their homosexual and pedophile guru writer / Bhavananda cheer leader / i.e. Hari Sauri that we are sahajiyas, evidently they think discrediting if not assassinating us is a good plan. OK all that means they are still in bed with the Radhanath process. And why do they want us assassinated? Some victims told me, so they can have another few thousand kids starved, beaten, molested and raped. It is all about defending that agenda.

Sorry, defending children rapes programs and murders of Vaishnavas programs is not even acceptable in the hamburger eating karmi society. They know this is evil. ys pd  

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DEAR WM: Thanks prabhu. Yep Bhakta dasa and his people were infuriated with me when I helped sue the GBC for $400,000,000. One of them said he was going to come here and break up my computer etc. Bhakta dasa said -- I am always talking about "stinky stools" aka ISKCON children. And he also said I was wrong to criticize "Saint Radhanath," the person who evidently paid to have me and Sulochana eliminated. 

Bhakta dasa even recently says that I am always discussing "stinky stools." OK children. Wow, and some of the victims here told me, no wonder we were treated so badly, these people think we are expendible dirty objects that have no value. Bhakta dasa's complaining about our efforts to save children were then reposted on a number of sites of my opponents, but the victims keep telling me -- these people have no regard for us -- and that is why we were victims. I cannot argue with that. 

Saint Radhanath's helping bury Kirtananda in a samadhi was "the last straw" for some of the victims here. Bhakta dasa has been against these people? Well not exactly. Bhakta dasa told my friend he has no reason to have to explain why he said we are trying to save "stinky stools" children. In other words, he has none. But neither do most of our opponents. ys pd

WM: Back in the 1990s Bhakta financed Kundali's books that was all about bad mouthing the GBC. He has been associated with the Gaudiya math for a very long time ... we all remember him as controversial with the GBC.

PADA: Yeah, Bhakta was promoting Kundali -- who was saying Srila Prabhupada's Back to Godhead idea is bogus because we were never with Krishna. Correct. He likes and supports the people who oppose me and Srila Prabhupada. But that does not change the fact -- he said I am discussing "stinky stools" (when I am discussing children) -- which means -- me suing the GBC over the child mistreating is all about saving stinky stools. 

Kundali also said my writing was "over the top" and he was downplaying my expose of the children's issues, just like Bhakta and others. And we all know the results. Yeah all these guys were hanging out together and oppressing my efforts to advocate for the children, that is what happened. And that is why I had to be saved by the FEDS from the three enforcers from Bhakta and his Saint Radanath process when they came here to eliminate me. Kundali's writing that we do not originate with Krishna was called by Srila Prabhupada as Mayavada, and this is the type of program Mathura Pati promotes. 

WM: okay you obviously have a different experience than me in regards to Bhakta das. He has been disconnected from ISKCON and never even put his own children in any Gurukul in Mayapur. Kundali's main books was always againts the GBC and he was supported by Bhakta das. But this was originally about a Sanyasi in Brazil supporting a pedofile.

PADA: Great. Yeah Bhakta knew there was a problem with the kids, so he kept his own personal kids out of their schools, and so did the LA temple leaders. But when I said other people's children are suffering, they all ganged up to suppress me, and Bhakta said I was writing about stinky stools and I was wrong to blame Saint Radhanath, who was the second in command at New Vrndavana, where all sorts of problems with kids was going on. I am saving my kids, but not your stink stools.

Yeah Bhakta went to the Gaudiya Matha, and BV Puri had a big sign over the front gate "Welcome Saint Radhanath." This is the same group that was hunting me and Sulochana to eliminate us for advocating for the stinky stools. We are discussing the main perps, which is good, but the perps could not have gone on without their enablers and cheer leaders, and Saint Radhanath fan club members. Saint Radhanath is guilty of the same behavior as this Brazil swami. 

Bhakta saved his own kids, but said the rest of the kids are stinky stools and PADA should not advocate for them. And Saint Radhanath is glorious. No wonder Mathura Pati is with them. They will all go to the planet where they will be kids who are treated like stinky stools along with their glorious New Vrndavana pals. He saved his kids, but said others kids are stinky stools, that is what I thought you said. You guys take care of yourselves, and your kids, but not others. That is how we came to this state.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com 

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Fake Gurus: 

Prabhupada: Guru cannot be self-made. No. There is no such single instance throughout the whole Vedic literature. And nowadays, so many rascals, they are becoming guru without any authority. That is not guru. You must be authorized. As soon as the parampara is lost, immediately finished. The spiritual potency finished. You can dress like a guru, you can talk big, big words, but it will never be effective. So these are the science. >>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.9.7 -- February 27, 1977, Mayapur

RM DASI: Which is why ISKCON has been largely gradually defunct since the passing of Srila Prabhupada. Only the attractive spiritual power of a Pure Devotee could be strong enough to challenge Maya's strong grip on practically everyone on earth, and inspire them to take initiation. The replacement "gurus" are not Pure Devotees, and moreover they changed Srila Prabhupada's entire ISKCON Movement.....

Books, Kirtans, BBT, Management Instructions, etc., so that now the mood and experience in ISKCON temples are dramatically different from when Srila Prabhupada was personally present, and set the standard for His Movement, which was nothing short of perfection and total purity. The problems began when changes of all types, and on all levels, were instituted, which signified an effective spiritual, emotional, and psychological severance from Srila Prabhupada, with the result that people worldwide lost interest in the Movement and in surrendering to Srila Prabhupada and Krishna Consciousness, and ISKCON's power and presence in the modern western / european world dwindled down to almost nothing.

ZB DASI: "A pure Vaiṣṇava is one who has no ulterior motive." [CC Madhya Līlā: 24.252] Due to ulterior motives the end result is what Present day Iskcon has become!

RM DASI: YES, Exactly!