GBC on Bhavananda's Fall Down / Mama Bear Writes PADA / BVKS / Govinda Dasi 09 21 25

PADA: Oh my, this is sweet. ys pd

PADA: The mental gymnastics, twisting shastra and rationalizations are going off the rails here. "Guru deviations start out small and they grow to become big." Wait a minute, we thought deviations were supposed to diminish for Vaishnavas? This is the exact opposite of the teachings of Srila Prabhupada. ys pd

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RE: DEATH THREATS TO PADA UPDATE

PADA: Thanks for your questions Mama Bear Dasi prabhu, "don't I get discouraged by all this"? Well yes and no. When I started in 1979, maybe 99.999% percent of my God brothers opposed me, and they thought I was making severe offenses to His Divine Grace Srila Jayatirtha Tirthapada, for my repeating Srila Prabhupada -- saying that a guru's sex with a disciple is a pedophile process. 

I was saying this is a pedophile guru program -- right out of the gate, and almost no one believed me. Fast forward to today in 2025, and it is almost the complete opposite, 99.999% of the people DO agree with me. Yep fer sure, there is a pedophile problem here. Which is why the temples are empty and the children are missing in action. 

Unfortunately many kids -- maybe thousands -- had to be tossed into a wood chipper to prove my point, so yeah, that is very discouraging. I could not save them. Discouraging is not even the proper word, it is worse. But we did what we could.

Your next question, what started the "bad blood" war between PADA and HKC Jaipur? OK HKC Jaipur's "senior man" Prahlad wrote to inform me that I had a small window of time to erase and remove all my complaints against the HKC folks who were promoting the cheer leaders of the homosexual and pedophile guru program "or else." He was clearly making a threat of violence. 

And Prahlad said he was thus going to send my photo to the GBC enforcers to have me attacked violently, or maybe killed. And then he did circulate my photo to them, trying to get me attacked or killed. My photo is still on his site? My own kids said at the time, and still say now, he followed up to make you a target for violence. The HKC Jaipur senior man wants to see Vaishnava's blood. 

OK even various kids knew, HKC Jaipur's senior enforcer wants you to be attacked, and violently. Or killed. This was well known at the time. My own kids were going, oh duh, looky over here at their site! They are trying to get you killed. So right out of the gate, the HKC Jaipur goons were trying to place my kids into anxiety, so they will oppress and severely harass my kids -- never mind other's kids. OK they are not kid friendly, plain and simple. They wanted children to believe their dad would get whacked, all because their dad opposes mass child molesting. 

And that proved PADA's point right away, the HKC Jaipur program is in bed with the homosexual and pedophile messiah's squad's project -- actively feeding violent hit jobs to the GBC's goonda squad, trying to have opponents of the pedophile messiah's project -- violently oppressed -- or taken out. OK they are trying to have Krishna's devotees violently attacked, or worse. 

Then the HKC Jaipur pal Mathura Pati says he would like to come over here and punch me in the head. Same thing, another case of their violent goonda-ism. I am self evidently a threat to these violent pedophile guru defender programs. Or what? After all that, then they say I have to apologize to them. Because I survived their attempt to put a hit on me? 

Ummm really, I have to apologize to violent enforcers of homosexual and pedophile messiahs' projects. Sorry, as soon as someone tells PADA -- either erase complaints -- against the homosexual and pedophile messiah's project -- "or else" we are going to help the GBC's enforcers come get you, then we know right away, we are 100% correct. Violent oppression means -- they have no siddhanta, they are simply violent thug goonda GBC ilk enforcers. 

Worse -- it proves -- we are in fact fighting violent pedophile guru cult defenders. And they have just proven who they are -- all by themselves. And now they are saying that our reports (on things like the abuse etc.) are "PADA lies," which is what the pedophile messiahs like Kirtanananda say.  

Can't they find a superior authority? So (A) they wanted to promote the cheer leaders of the Saint Radhanath and Bhavananda molester messiah's project, (B) we objected, and (C) they decided to have us oppressed, (D) self evidently encouraging and inciting violence. Fine. But this is what the cheer leaders of the homosexual and pedophile messiah's club has done to me ever since 1978. Another walk in the park day for me.

Sure, I am somewhat cautious with them, but not actually that frightened of them -- at least not too much. My much bigger fear is? That I will die and be judged by Lord Narasimgha's agents in Yamaraja's court for not taking action in protecting Krishna's children. 

I decided to take some action at least, and I do not regret doing that. I still probably will end up in Yama's court, but at least the crime of neglecting and not helping those children, which will be on the plate of many of the 99.999% percenters who opposed me, won't be one of the charges he reads against me. 

At least I will not be part of that camp, and that is encouraging for me. But it is not something that is like a sweet tasting victory, too many people suffered too much, especially children. And that is the bitter part of the pill, and that is all there is to it. So it is a mixed result, some sweet, some bitter. 

Anyway, after Kurukshetra Yuddhisthira lamented, "we won, but there has had to be so much devastation for us to win." I understand why he felt that way. The good news is, more people agree with PADA -- we need to jettison the molester messiah's project, and its allies, supporters, defenders, apologists, sycophants etc. -- so we will have a brighter situation in the future. On that issue, I feel encouraged. And hopefully -- the future devotees will look back at our history and say "never again." That is a hopeful -- and probable -- outcome. 

ys pd 

angel108b@yahoo.com 

 

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Asociación Vaisnavas de España

Attention devotees of the Iberian Peninsula as well as Latin America.

Beware of this mentally unbalanced Bhakti Vikas "swami," who pretends to be an Orthodox Guru, but actually mixes or manipulates the scriptures and concepts of life of ancient times with his rancid interpretations contaminated by his madness.
Unfortunately, their concept of Vedic justice does not include prosecuting child molesters in gurukulas like former Bhaktividya Purna (whom BVKS defended with cloak and sword and even kept hidden in his southern Indian temple), Keshava Bharati and others.

We know of devotees in countries of the southern cone of Latin America who are promoting him, translating his absurd instructions into Spanish and Portuguese, spreading his videos, etc. We've had enough incompetent lunatics on board trying to imitate Srila Prabhupada, mixing Bhakti with delusions of impurity etc. We don't need one worse than the previous ones!

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GOVINDA DASI:

MORAL COURAGE / WHAT IS MORAL COURAGE?

There are those who know what is right and speak out about it. And there are those who know but do not speak, and there are those who do not know so they have no voice of wisdom.

Those who know but do not speak lack moral courage. We see examples of this everywhere, especially in politics, religious institutions, and even families.
In our case, those disciples, especially leaders, of Iskcon who did not have the moral courage to stand up to the 1978 hijackers of Srila Prabhupada’s Iskcon lacked moral courage. 

Instead, they chose their vested personal interests or ambitions rather than showing moral courage. We can all see their fates.

Now, most Prabhupada disciples are in the later years of their lives, 60’s, 70’s, even 80’s. We are at the threshold of death. I truly believe we will very soon have to bow before our master, Srila Prabhupada, in gratitude for all he has given us. 

But I also foresee that he will ask each one of us:

“Why didn’t you defend my books? Why did you not stand up for me and protect my life’s work, my books, from those who would dare to call them “horrible” and dare to change my words? Do you not know the ancient principle of “arsha prayoga”? It means that whatever the Acharya or sage speaks, that is considered sacred and cannot be “improved upon.” This principle is from Vedic times, and I taught you this. Did you forget?”

“Or were you more concerned about your position in society, your income, or your name and fame than about me and my wishes? I need an answer.”

Each one of us must be ready to answer these questions, because each one of us is at the very threshold of death. It can come any time now.

Now is the time to start thinking about how we will reply. There is no doubt in my mind that these are some of the important questions that will be asked. So now is the time to start contemplating our reply. We will answer for our every word and deed; of that there is no doubt.

But those of us who are initiates of Srila Prabhupada will be thoroughly tested. He expected more of us. He has given us the greatest of gifts — Krishna 

consciousness, and the opportunity to enter the spiritual world. This doesn’t come without a price. And the price is moral courage. The courage to stand up for what is right in every situation, and especially in regard to the wishes of our beloved spiritual master Srila Prabhupada.

PADA: Yeah, what happened to the brahmana devotees, the vulnerable women, the children, the cows, the deities, the temples, the books, the good name of the society, everything he worked to create. Where did it all end up? And who acquiesced with the evil doers and allowed it to get there?