ISKCON's Madangopal Speaks Up (VIDEO) 05 15 24

 

PADA: ISKCON is gradually turning into an India cultural hall program. Madangopal claims to be a graduate of the Mayapur GBC's school, and some of the people there were arguing with me that it is common for acharyas to fall down [into illicit sex with men, women and children] and that is part of "the tradition of India."

Yeah, it is the tradition -- of bogus Hindu God men, who are falling down left, right and center. Sorry, there are no examples of our acharyas falling down, it is not part of our tradition. Anyway, now he is an appointed as another GBC guru, and that means he is a link in their illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's club.

Westerners are not coming? No kidding, in the West we worship Jesus and not illicit sex with men, women and children as our messiahs. The India ICC bureau folks wrote to tell me -- the reason I do not endorse worshiping their "guru lineage" of -- homosexuals, pedophiles, predators, condom wearing deviants, machine gun swamis, offering LSD to the shalagram etc. is "you are a mleccha and you cannot understand Hindu culture." Well sorry, I do understand Hindu culture, it is chocker block with bogus God men. ys pd 

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A continuation of this book from where I left off last time. Hare Krishna

Srila Prabhupada Siddhanta

Authorized Conclusions Regarding Srila Prabhupada, Great Vaisnavas, and the Mission and Teachings of the Krishna Consciousness Movement

'The Prabhupada Book'

Section Two

Siddhanta -- Philosophical Conclusions of the Krishna Consciousness Movement

E) Everyone Should Accept Srila Prabhupada as Spiritual Master.

As the Vedas underscore, acaryavan puruso veda: to get a bona fide understanding of Lord and His instructions in the scriptures, spiritual seekers must follow a bona fide acarya or spiritual master. Srila Prabhupada affirms this foundational spiritual principle and casts aside the notion that material space and time can somehow prevent followers of the spiritual master from associating with him in the here and now.

"Sri Jiva Gosvami advises that one not accept a spiritual master in terms of hereditary or customary social and ecclesiastical conventions. One should simply try to find a genuinely qualified spiritual master for actual advancement in spiritual understanding." (Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi-lila 1.35, Purport)

"One should take initiation from a bona fide spiritual master coming in the disciplic succession, who is authorized by his predecessor spiritual master. This is called diksa-vidhana. Lord Krishna states in Bhagavad-gita, vyapasrita: one should accept a spiritual master. By this process the entire world can be converted to Krishna consciousness." (Srimad-Bhagavatam 4.8.54, Purport)

"... acaryavan puruso veda: one who follows the disciplic succession of acaryas knows things as they are." (Srimad-Bhagavatam 4.22.24, Purport, citing Chandogya Upanisad 6.14.2)

"... the Christians are following Christ, a great personality. Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. You follow some mahajana, a great personality.... You follow an acarya. Like the Christians— they follow Christ, an acarya. The Muhammadans—they follow an acarya, Muhammad. That is good. You must follow some acarya.... Evam parampara-praptam." (Conversation, May 20, 1975, Melbourne)

"Regarding the parampara system: there is nothing to wonder for big gaps. We have to pick up the prominent acarya and follow from him." (Letter, April 12,1968)

"This is called guru-parampara, disciplic succession.... This is the perfect process of knowledge. You approach the perfect person and get knowledge, and that is your perfect experience.... We are getting knowledge from Krishna, the most perfect. Or you get knowledge from Jesus Christ. That is also perfect, because the source is perfect." (Conversation, June 19,1974, Germany)

"Actually, one who is guided by Jesus Christ will certainly get liberation." (Perfect Questions, Perfect Answers, Chapter 9)

"... one has to associate with liberated persons not directly, physically, but by understanding, through philosophy and logic..." (Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.31.48, Purport)

"These are not ordinary books. It is recorded chanting. Anyone who reads-he is hearing." (Letter, October 19, 1974)

Disciple: Is there any way for a Christian to—without the help of a spiritual master-to reach the spiritual sky through believing in the words of Jesus Christ and trying to follow his teachings? Srila Prabhupada: When you read the Bible, you follow the spiritual master. How can you say "without"? As soon as you read the Bible, that means you are following the instruction of Lord Jesus Christ—that means you are following the spiritual master. So where is the opportunity of being "without a spiritual master"? Disciple: I was referring to a living spiritual master. Srila Prabhupada: The spiritual master is not the question of ["living"]... The spiritual master is eternal—the spiritual master is eternal. So your question is "without a spiritual master." Without a spiritual master you cannot be—at any stage of your life. You may accept this spiritual master or that spiritual master. That is a different thing. But you have to accept. You say "by reading the Bible." When you read the Bible, that means you are following the spiritual master, represented by some priest or some clergyman in the line of Lord Jesus Christ. So in any case, you have to follow a spiritual master. There cannot be the question "without a spiritual master." Is that clear? (Questions and answers following a lecture, October 2, 1968, Seattle)

"The guru must be situated on the topmost platform of devotional service. There are three classes of devotees, and the guru must be accepted from the topmost class... When one has attained the topmost position of maha-bhagavata, he is to be accepted as guru and worshiped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. Only such a person is eligible to occupy the post of a guru." (Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila 24.330, Purport, citing Padma Purana)

soon there will be a sequel to this book

Hare Krishna