BHAKTICHARU SWAMI LECTURE EXCERPT SOON BEFORE HIS DEATH IN 2020
Bhakti Charu Swami: And then Prabhupada's condition actually deteriorated. Prabhupada started feeling very uneasy, and Damodara Prasad was trying to treat Prabhupada, and it was around that time Prabhupada actually spoke about poisoning. You may have heard about it. One day one Gaudiya Vaishnava Bengali devotee, quite young, came to Prabhupada to ask for some donation from Srila Prabhupada, so Prabhupada told Tamal Krishna Maharaja to give him some money. So then the person was there, to him Prabhupada was saying (laughs) about poison, as if he had been poisoned. And now he was a person whom we had never seen and Prabhupada also hardly knew him, but Prabhupada's intimate associate in Vrindaban was Bhagatji, one local Vaishnava, and Prabhupada was very close to him. Bhagatji used to come every day, two or three times, especially at night, he would give a massage to Prabhupada, and if Prabhupada felt that it was such a serious thing, then he would have told Bhagatji or, you know, like Tamal Krishna Maharaja or other devotees who were close to him. But Prabhupada didn't tell anything to anybody, but only this person. And it actually SHOCKED us because Prabhupada was speaking to him in Bengali and I was the one who understood and I was the one who translated it to Tamal Krishna Maharaja. We were all SHOCKED to hear this. And then Tamal Krishna Maharaja at one point asked him whether Prabhupada has felt that he has been poisoned, and Prabhupada said , "No, I am just talking about it," which meant that when somebody feels such pain, he feels as if he has been poisoned...
Anyway, I just wanted to mention this to you, as either you may have heard about it or you may hear about it in future so... At that time everyone was praying to Krishna about how Prabhupada could continue to stay. Everyone was hoping against hope that Prabhupada would continue to live...
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Nityananda das COMMENTS: The young Bengali was Balaram Misra, a purohita priest well-known to Srila Prabhupada, who had asked Shastri to find bring him to see him. Balaram Misra was asked to help with the upcoming Bombay temple opening and deity installation. Srila Prabhupada knew well Balaram Misra's family when he lived in Vrindaban before going to America. They were old friends, not at all "hardly acquainted."
PADA: Heart breaking separation from the pillar supporters of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru sampradaya -- that bans, beats, molests, sues, assassinates --- and poisons?
Bhakti Charu Swami: And then Prabhupada's condition actually deteriorated. Prabhupada started feeling very uneasy, and Damodara Prasad was trying to treat Prabhupada, and it was around that time Prabhupada actually spoke about poisoning. You may have heard about it. One day one Gaudiya Vaishnava Bengali devotee, quite young, came to Prabhupada to ask for some donation from Srila Prabhupada, so Prabhupada told Tamal Krishna Maharaja to give him some money. So then the person was there, to him Prabhupada was saying (laughs) about poison, as if he had been poisoned. And now he was a person whom we had never seen and Prabhupada also hardly knew him, but Prabhupada's intimate associate in Vrindaban was Bhagatji, one local Vaishnava, and Prabhupada was very close to him. Bhagatji used to come every day, two or three times, especially at night, he would give a massage to Prabhupada, and if Prabhupada felt that it was such a serious thing, then he would have told Bhagatji or, you know, like Tamal Krishna Maharaja or other devotees who were close to him. But Prabhupada didn't tell anything to anybody, but only this person. And it actually SHOCKED us because Prabhupada was speaking to him in Bengali and I was the one who understood and I was the one who translated it to Tamal Krishna Maharaja. We were all SHOCKED to hear this. And then Tamal Krishna Maharaja at one point asked him whether Prabhupada has felt that he has been poisoned, and Prabhupada said , "No, I am just talking about it," which meant that when somebody feels such pain, he feels as if he has been poisoned...
Anyway, I just wanted to mention this to you, as either you may have heard about it or you may hear about it in future so... At that time everyone was praying to Krishna about how Prabhupada could continue to stay. Everyone was hoping against hope that Prabhupada would continue to live...
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Nityananda das COMMENTS: The young Bengali was Balaram Misra, a purohita priest well-known to Srila Prabhupada, who had asked Shastri to find bring him to see him. Balaram Misra was asked to help with the upcoming Bombay temple opening and deity installation. Srila Prabhupada knew well Balaram Misra's family when he lived in Vrindaban before going to America. They were old friends, not at all "hardly acquainted."
Damodara Prasad and Bhakticharu were also Bengali, so Srila Prabhupada told three persons at once about being poisoned. It was not a casual, small talk comment to an unknown or anonymous visitor as Bhakticharu portrays. The question is why would Srila Prabhupada choose to reveal his thoughts about being poisoned to an old friend on the outside rather than his "close" caretakers?
Bhakticharu tries to minimize the significance of the poisoning revelation by falsely describing Balaram Misra as an insignificant outsider, implying that Srila Prabhupada was just making small talk. There is every chance that Srila Prabhupada actually did tell Bhagatji in private about the poisoning, and the reason he did not tell Tamal is because he was the poisoner. If it was just small talk, why were Bhakticharu and the others so shocked?
And if truly shocked, why did they do nothing about it? Bhakticharu completely changes what Srila Prabhupada said, just to deceive all those who will never actually read the conversations. Srila Prabhupada never said, "No, I am just talking about it." Bhakticharu also joins the "he is old, senile, and a complainer" club by describing Srila Prabhupada as feeling like he was poisoned due to having so much pain.
We note that of course Bhakticharu will try to minimize the "poison discussions" of Nov. 9-10, 1977 because he is one of the primary suspects in the poisoning. All of Bhakticharu's various blatant alterations of the events and contradictions in his various explanations over the years only points the finger more strongly at himself as one hiding the truth.
[PADA: Yes, oddly that is almost what Krishna Kanta of the IRM said. I told him they were whispering about poison and he said "this is simply a normal conversation, nothing is unusual about it." Apparently, when Krishna Kanta is having dinner with his relatives he is saying, "hey lets put some poison in there." People are trying to say the poison complaint, and the whispers etc. are normal and not unusual. Except, why were they shocked then? Makes no sense?
And IRM's Kamsahanta was going along with all these things Krishna Kanta was saying and telling me its a big mistake to bring out the poison issue because "we are going to lose our buildings." Nope, your pedophile worship building are yours, not "ours"? Don't lump me into your pedophile pooja process, its yours, not ours? You guys wanted to own that program, goody, don't say its mine as well!
Did I forget to mention the same cabal in the poison issue is the same cabal in the molesting issue, and changed books issue, and so on. So don't act as their apologists please.
Did I forget to mention the same cabal in the poison issue is the same cabal in the molesting issue, and changed books issue, and so on. So don't act as their apologists please.
And "please don't torture me and put me to death," that is also "normal conversation." So all sorts of people have come up with all sorts of rationalizations to "explain away" what is evidently a complaint about being poisoned. Anyway, Bhakti Charu swami at least admits that Srila Prabhupada is complaining about being poisoned to someone, so that is at least partial coming out with the truth.
We have to take all the bits and pieces we can at this stage.
As with all these things, they distort the facts to cover up for the real inner core rascals. Of course there are those who think Bhakti Charu swami is one of the inner core rascals, he was in on it. I cannot say for sure one way or the other, but he certainly is their getaway car driver -- to take the main perps away from the scene of the crime and hide their crime. He is their chief cover up guy, otherwise known as aiding and abetting their crime. Yes, good question, why is he not being fully truthful here?
Problem is, BCS is having to be fully truthful in the courts of Yamaraja. Distorting the facts is not allowed there. And supporters of pedophile acharya programs will have to explain why they supported that, and why they covered up their guru's poison complaint. Its all going to come out eventually, here with us, or later on with Yamaraja.
ys pd]
PADA: Heart breaking separation from the pillar supporters of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru sampradaya -- that bans, beats, molests, sues, assassinates --- and poisons?
Bhakti Charu Memories: Yes! Bhakti Caru, you will be remembered by all clever real devotees as one of the biggest fool and sahajiya that existed for the last 40 years. I remember your speech to the people after the Ratha-yatra in La Grande Motte in France in about 1989. It was so ridiculous ... that at this moment I lost my last illusions about ISKCON and intelligently started to decide to leave it, thanks Krsna! Dear beloved Maharaja, you were also the only one who very clearly threatened me with death in 1999 in Paris, and also the one who told the french devotees for years that "I am a very big demon" (a fully engaged sankirtana devotee.....). The very close future will show everyone how right was your spiritual vision and how much advanced and enlightened spiritual leader you were......!
ReplyDelete[PADA: Yes, Bhakti Charu swami has been a big wheel "high priest advisor" in the house of the Kauravas, and he was giving them bad advice to oppose Krishna's process. So he was a supporter of the GBC's program that bans, beats, molests, sues, and assassinates Vaishnavas. Actually almost any crime that can be committed was committed by their group, and in the name of Krishna (to give Krishna a bad name).
And so -- BCS was the velvet glove on the iron fist, as Sulochana said. As one devotee said, even if we paid a professional advertising agency $100 million dollars, they could not have given Krishna a worse name than these guys have done.
Another devotee told me -- the whole world is now suffering from the virus problem because Krishna is not happy His movement was poisoned and ruined by these people. That is certainly possible. At least I really could not argue back on that statement. And yup, right now BCS is realizing that Yamaraja does not tolerate people who are the high priest enforcers in -- "the enforced cult ritualistic worship of deviants as God's successors." That program is never tolerated by the Lord -- nor any agents of the Lord. ys pd]