Krishna's flute music ....
Cheeky little butter thief
KRISHNA KSHETRA SWAMI
PADA: Yeah MMD prabhu, this is insane -- honestly. Krishna Kshetra swami's program rubber stamps over 100 "pure devotee successors to Krishna and Jesus like messiahs who can absorb sins" starting in 1978. Big surprise! All kinds of banning, beating, molesting, suing, murders and media scandals ensue. Wonder why? Then he says -- maybe we should start to test their knowledge after all this time.
Correct, that means -- they have not tested their pure devotee messiahs beforehand up to now. They just rubber stamped more and more messiahs left, right and center, cookie cutter fashion, starting in 1978. Then in 2025 they decided -- hey, maybe it is time to test our messiahs for knowledge after all this time.
And yeah, meanwhile we cannot worship pure devotees, that would be the bogus Christian ritvik deviation, but we can have our children worship our illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs programs right away. In any case, the fact they want to test their messiahs now means, yep, they have not tested their messiahs beforehand.
In short! These numerous conditioned souls and / or deviants were certified as messiahs already without proper testing. That means -- they had no authority to rubber stamp all these messiahs from square one, because they were not tested from square one. First, let us make over 100 rubber stamped successors to God. Then, after we create chaos and mayhem, and no small amount of child molesting, some murders and assorted other crimes, and terrible media scandals, maybe we should test to see if they are factually the successors to God?
Sheesh pilgrims! ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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STOLEN WORDS: The Literary Crime of the Century
STOLEN WORDS: The Literary Crime of the Century
"Maya's grandmother asked a simple question: "Why would they change his words?"
She'd been reading the Bhagavad-gita for forty years. Then she picked up a newer edition. Something felt wrong.
Maya compared them. Same book. Same translator. Thousands of words changed.
"Forgotten soul" became "forgetful soul." Someone decided the original wasn't good enough.
"Forgotten soul" became "forgetful soul." Someone decided the original wasn't good enough.
Maya knows words shape your brain. Change the words, change the experience.
She started investigating. California temples. Moscow prayer halls. Same pattern everywhere. Sacred phrases quietly replaced. Nobody told the readers.
Her grandmother's question haunted her. Why change words a teacher carefully chose? Words he approved while alive. Words millions trust.
She started investigating. California temples. Moscow prayer halls. Same pattern everywhere. Sacred phrases quietly replaced. Nobody told the readers.
Her grandmother's question haunted her. Why change words a teacher carefully chose? Words he approved while alive. Words millions trust.
This isn't about religion. It's about trust. When you open a sacred text, you assume what's inside is protected—not edited.
What if it's not? What if the version you're holding erased what you're searching for?"
https://www.amazon.com.au/Sto.../dp/B0G5HL6NSC/ref=sr_1_1...
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Unsatisfied Justice and Boiling Blood
(by Antaryami das)
There has been the loss of literally millions of lives—and the death (both physical and spiritual) of the children of the first disciples. Everyone likes to showcase the few who “succeeded” and became famous singers and players in the ISKCON corporation, but they are few and far between compared to the losses. Each one of those lost children represents a line of lineage that will never receive the mercy.
Dear prabhu / mataji, please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda! HG Nrsimhananda Prabhu (ACBSP) and I have decided to produce a documentary film consisting of statements from devotees who are supporters of the ORIGINAL SP books. We humbly request you to participate in this project.
He founded 64 branches of Gaudiya Math across India, in addition to one in London and one in Berlin. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura was the spiritual teacher of AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, the Founder Acharya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness.
"And when I die, and when I'm dead, dead and gone,
If it's peace you find in dying, well, then let the time be near,
My troubles are many, they're as deep as a well,
I can swear there ain't no heaven, but I pray there ain't no hell,
And when I die and when I'm gone,
All I ask of living is to have no chains on me,
And when I die and when I'm gone,
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Unsatisfied Justice and Boiling Blood
(by Antaryami das)
There has been the loss of literally millions of lives—and the death (both physical and spiritual) of the children of the first disciples. Everyone likes to showcase the few who “succeeded” and became famous singers and players in the ISKCON corporation, but they are few and far between compared to the losses. Each one of those lost children represents a line of lineage that will never receive the mercy.
Millions of future souls who will either become inimical to Krishna and Srila Prabhupada—or even to all religion. And nobody really cares. So many videos, podcasts, and writings exist, yet the situation has not truly changed. And those kids — now in their 50s — have never been properly comforted or adjudicated. Despite the fact that they won’t win their case, they still suffer. Their parents suffer. Their children suffer.
Trust me — I’m doing everything I can to hold myself back from physically attacking those responsible for this mess. I don’t listen to their classes, and my health suffers to this very day from having gone through it from all possible perspectives. I was a teacher, a parent, the wife of an abuser, best friends with other women who were abused along with their children — and I was abused myself.
Trust me — I’m doing everything I can to hold myself back from physically attacking those responsible for this mess. I don’t listen to their classes, and my health suffers to this very day from having gone through it from all possible perspectives. I was a teacher, a parent, the wife of an abuser, best friends with other women who were abused along with their children — and I was abused myself.
Furthermore, I just lost a lovely godsister who committed suicide after a life of hell — abused in ISKCON in every way imaginable. Doktorsky has written so much about this it could sink a ship, but nothing has changed. The leaders just ignore it and go on with their Saudi prince lifestyle, making their “disciples” drink their foot water. It’s disgusting.
They are ALL scoundrels! ALL. Yes, certain individuals made specific offenses—and I’m sure it’s already documented online. But the reality is that ALL THE LEADERS tried to cover it up to avoid losing income. It was always about profit, adoration, and distinction — never about the safety or spiritual growth of anyone.
They are ALL scoundrels! ALL. Yes, certain individuals made specific offenses—and I’m sure it’s already documented online. But the reality is that ALL THE LEADERS tried to cover it up to avoid losing income. It was always about profit, adoration, and distinction — never about the safety or spiritual growth of anyone.
So they are all at fault. Other than Shaunaka Rishi, who was a student, no one stood up to complain. And still no real solution has come — just more mafia - like interactions. Even when they finally had a fairly successful CPO head, they crippled his efforts. It’s not just disgusting—it’s treacherous.
So, when you look at the whole scene:
~ Lying and cheating to gain power after Prabhupada’s departure.
~ Abuse in every way imaginable—towards children, women, elders—including murder.
~ Repentance only on paper (I only found out this year about the so-called “apology” from the GBC!).
And after all that, they demand allegiance from ISKCON devotees???
Until they ALL go to each and every home and soul whose lives they’ve destroyed—until they admit in public, on stage (not just on paper) — until they begin to hold real istagosthis where the injured and disturbed actually have a voice, and begin to atone in reality and regret fully, not foolishly — until that happens and continues, not just one superficial meeting but ongoing, genuine gatherings—there is no hope!
So, when you look at the whole scene:
~ Lying and cheating to gain power after Prabhupada’s departure.
~ Abuse in every way imaginable—towards children, women, elders—including murder.
~ Repentance only on paper (I only found out this year about the so-called “apology” from the GBC!).
And after all that, they demand allegiance from ISKCON devotees???
Until they ALL go to each and every home and soul whose lives they’ve destroyed—until they admit in public, on stage (not just on paper) — until they begin to hold real istagosthis where the injured and disturbed actually have a voice, and begin to atone in reality and regret fully, not foolishly — until that happens and continues, not just one superficial meeting but ongoing, genuine gatherings—there is no hope!
They are already flying around the world, so it’s no extra cost. They manage to get apartments and facilities — they can figure this out. Maybe it should be part of their atonement—to do this and also pay for it. Get a job, or do whatever it takes. Otherwise, ISKCON will be pulled out of the mercy line. It’s as simple as that. Just because we put the name ISKCON on a door does not mean we are going to receive the mercy of the Parampara.
They:
~ Changed the Deity worship.
~ No longer offer food as Prabhupada directed.
~ Harmed devotees in hundreds of ways.
~ Lost or sold valuable properties.
~ Misappropriated funds.
~ Left most Western temples in financial trouble—now operating as “Hindu centers” run by Indians or absentee temple presidents.
~ Cooperated to lie to us constantly since Prabhupada’s departure.
~ Even if they didn’t directly poison Prabhupada, their behavior during his final year was deplorable.
~ Didn’t let us see Prabhupada when he asked.
~ Stole positions as “gurus.”
~ Covered up crimes.
~ Live in opulence while devotees who gave their lives live in poverty.
~ Changed the books.
~ Stopped daily Harinam.
~ Pay devotees, depriving them of pure devotional service.
And I could go on… You could write volumes of books on all of the above. And it’s still going on! It’s a mountain of disgusting activities with no end in sight. Yes, talking about it has clarified things for some devotees—but the vast majority still buy the party line. The saying goes: “Only when good men do nothing, bad things happen.” It doesn’t say “when good men say nothing.” You have to do something. Better to do something small than to crow like a rooster. A lot of folks are crowing. Who is doing?
Everyone has a choice at every moment how to spend their time. All the devotees who volunteered in the project to save the vani of Srila Prabhupada had full lives. We all had enough to do already. But we put the priority on the vani. It’s all about what your priority is. There are only 24 hours in a day, and none of us knows when the sand runs out on our timer. Even if it’s something small, we have to choose to do something, not just talk. Set a goal, outline the steps, track the progress, face the challenges, push forward, and achieve the goal.
by Antaryami das
They:
~ Changed the Deity worship.
~ No longer offer food as Prabhupada directed.
~ Harmed devotees in hundreds of ways.
~ Lost or sold valuable properties.
~ Misappropriated funds.
~ Left most Western temples in financial trouble—now operating as “Hindu centers” run by Indians or absentee temple presidents.
~ Cooperated to lie to us constantly since Prabhupada’s departure.
~ Even if they didn’t directly poison Prabhupada, their behavior during his final year was deplorable.
~ Didn’t let us see Prabhupada when he asked.
~ Stole positions as “gurus.”
~ Covered up crimes.
~ Live in opulence while devotees who gave their lives live in poverty.
~ Changed the books.
~ Stopped daily Harinam.
~ Pay devotees, depriving them of pure devotional service.
And I could go on… You could write volumes of books on all of the above. And it’s still going on! It’s a mountain of disgusting activities with no end in sight. Yes, talking about it has clarified things for some devotees—but the vast majority still buy the party line. The saying goes: “Only when good men do nothing, bad things happen.” It doesn’t say “when good men say nothing.” You have to do something. Better to do something small than to crow like a rooster. A lot of folks are crowing. Who is doing?
Everyone has a choice at every moment how to spend their time. All the devotees who volunteered in the project to save the vani of Srila Prabhupada had full lives. We all had enough to do already. But we put the priority on the vani. It’s all about what your priority is. There are only 24 hours in a day, and none of us knows when the sand runs out on our timer. Even if it’s something small, we have to choose to do something, not just talk. Set a goal, outline the steps, track the progress, face the challenges, push forward, and achieve the goal.
by Antaryami das
PADA: Yes, the Hare Krishna movement has been basically dismantled and is now a sort of collection of mini-Guru personality cult empires and Hindu business fiefdoms. And the temples have been turned into ghost towns, except for the Hindu cultural hall programs on Sundays. ys pd
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BOOK CHANGES ISSUE
If You agree, here is what would be expected from you: 1) Record yourself, or have someone help you, making a VIDEO recording of your talk. The camera (recorder) should remain static. It doesn’t matter whether you record indoors or outdoors. 2) The talk should not last longer than 30 minutes. 3) Since this will not be an interview but a free talk, please speak on the following topics:
a) What are the advantages and importance of the original SP books compared to the illegally altered books.
b) Recall anecdotes, stories, and arguments that would inform viewers and inspire them to become supporters of the original SP books and to boycott the illegally changed books. In general, please say whatever is on your heart in support of protecting the original SP standards and the original books.
4) The recording may not come out perfectly the first time. But if there is anything you want us to later remove (edit out), please indicate from which minute to which minute the part in question is. If you are using a smartphone camera, hold it horizontally. Do not choose the highest resolution, but the one that is the SECOND highest.
5) Please send your recording to me as an e-mail attachment at:
vrsabha@gmail.com
You can write in the subject line of the e-mail: “Documentary Film (your name)” . For large files, please consider sending via https://wetransfer.com Basic version (free of charge) allows up to 3 GB storage per month. There is no specific deadline for recording and sending your video, but it would be good if I could receive it by the end of January.
Please confirm whether you wish to participate. Let us all make this valuable film together, to immortalize the significance of the original SP books for the future generations. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As a member of the Dharma Sanga Team (DST), I am the chief editor of the website www.dharmasanga.org, and I kindly invite you to take a look at what we are writing and publishing. If you like it, please share the link to our website with others. Also, please click on the picture of Śrīla Prabhupāda on our homepage — where it says “Back to the Original Books!” There you will find access to the texts of our campaign, which includes a link to the page where we are collecting signatures. Please share this information (campaign) with other devotees. Greetings from Croatia! Your servant Vrisabha
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Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura is the spiritual teacher of Srila Prabhupada.
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Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura is the spiritual teacher of Srila Prabhupada.
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada was born in 1873 in Jagannatha Puri. His father, Kedar Dutta Bhaktivinoda Thakura, was a city magistrate and superintendent of Jagannatha temple.
On one occasion, during the festival of Ratha yatra, the car stopped in front of the family house. Taking advantage of the opportunity, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura's mother came out with the baby and placed him at the Lotus Feet of Jagannatha. A garland from Jagannatha's hand fell on the baby.
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura was educated in Kolkata and became a scholar in mathematics and astronomy.
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura was educated in Kolkata and became a scholar in mathematics and astronomy.
As a child, he took a mango from the offering to the Deity. When his father rebuked him, telling him that he shouldn't have taken the fruit that was for the Lord, the boy took it very seriously and considered himself a big offender, promising to never take mango again in his entire life.
Before his resignation, he was known as Bimal Prasad Dutta. For writing a book on astronomy, Surya Siddhanta, received the title of Siddhanta Sarasvati. And when he took sannyasa, preaching the gospel of Lord Chaitanya, he was known as Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura.
He was hailed as a great scholar in Kolkata, and the celebrated Dr. Kalidas Nag used to call him "a living encyclopedia." Thakura Bhaktivinoda prepared her son in preaching from childhood and after receiving sannyasa Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura founded the Gaudiya Mission Institution.
He founded 64 branches of Gaudiya Math across India, in addition to one in London and one in Berlin. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura was the spiritual teacher of AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, the Founder Acharya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness.
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Srila Prabhupada offen referred to "My Guru Maharaja"". Srila Prabhupada always gave credit for her success in preaching to Her Guru Maharaja. So let us listen to the glorious teachings of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur, through the mouth of Srila Prabhupada, on this glorious day of disappearance, with the compilation titled "My Guru Maharaja", on various topics...........
Prabhupada: My Guru Maharaja gave me a task and I was always discouraged by my brothers, but I did not forget it even for a moment, and I was determined to carry on with my duty, even though sometimes I did not like to do it.
Letter to: Satsvarupa -- Vrindaban November 5, 1972
Prabhupada: My Guru Maharaja used to say that in the world there is no problem, there is no scarcity. The only problem is that people are not aware of Krsna.. That's the problem.
Room Conversation -- July 17, 1972, London
Prabhupada: I consider you all as the representative of my Guru Maharaj to help me in this helpless condition. My brothers didn't help me but my Spiritual Master did. So don't think that I can never forget you even for a moment.
Letter to: Kirtanananda -- San Francisco April 7, 1967
Prabhupada: We should always take great care to fully respect those who have so carefully handled this divine fruit of transcendental knowledge before us. Even a little change will ruin it. That is why I have always been so careful to give you only those things which I have heard from my Guru Maharaj.
Letter to: Satsvarupa and Hansadutta -- Vrindaban August 29, 1967
Prabhupada: Whatever I am doing, it is because of the work of my Guru Maharaj. Actually, He is the power behind me, and I am the only instrument.
Letter to: Bali Mardan -- Tittenhurst Park, England October 4, 1969
Prabhupada: My Guru Maharaja, was always enthusiastic in opening centers in busy cities. Our centers are practically not isolated ashrams for so-called peaceful meditation. We are for activities and fighting like the battle of Kurukshetra. Chatianya Mahaprabhu's mission is to awaken the sleeping humanity under the spell of Maya.
Letter to: Bali Mardan -- Tittenhurst Park, England October 4, 1969
Prabhupada: My Guru Maharaja, was always enthusiastic in opening centers in busy cities. Our centers are practically not isolated ashrams for so-called peaceful meditation. We are for activities and fighting like the battle of Kurukshetra. Chatianya Mahaprabhu's mission is to awaken the sleeping humanity under the spell of Maya.
Letter to: Bali Mardan -- 7, Bury Place London, England November 16, 1969
Prabhupada: My Guru Maharaja, if anyone wrote any article, he would listen, just see how many times there are Krsna and Lord Caitanya. Then it shall come to pass, "Yeah, right. " [laughs] .
The Nectar of Devotion -- January 10, 1973, Bombay
Prabhupada: I also do not feel separation from my Guru Maharaja. When I am committed to your service, your pictures give me enough strength. Serving the word of the Spiritual Master is more important than serving Him physically.
Letter to: Syamasundara -- Los Angeles, July 19, 1970
Prabhupada: For our energy spent on Krsna, that is appreciated, not the actual result of our energy. But if there is a lack of energy dedicated to some purpose, then everything will delay and possibly stop. Better to grab the iron while the fire is hot, that's what my Guru Maharaja used to tell me.
Letter to: Dhananjaya -- Bombay 31st December 1972
Prabhupada: My Guru Maharaja used to say that "If people do not come to listen to this philosophy, do not be discouraged. You sit in a room and try to preach. The four walls will hear you Don't let yourself down. "
Conference day after Sri Gaura-Purnima -- March 5, 1969, Hawaii
Prabhupada: My Guru Maharaja used to say that "This material world is not fit to live for any gentleman. "He used to say. "No gentleman can live here. "
Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.9.15 -- February 22, 1976, Mayapur
Prabhupada: Therefore my Guru Maharaja used to say, "Poor background of knowledge." When I used to designate these Mayavadi philosophers, he used to say, "Poor background of knowledge." "
Initiation -- May 21, 1969, New Vrindaban
Prabhupada: My Guru Maharaja used to say, "Don't go to Vrndavana with a return ticket. "Therefore, it's very confidential
Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.61 -- August 28, 1975, Vrndavana
[Conclusion: If one has really seen Vrindavana, one would not want to leave Vrindavano]
Prabhupada: My Guru Maharaja used to say that though this process is guaranteed, but do not wait for another life. Finish this business in this life.
Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.7.20 21 - 17 September 1976, Vrndavana
Prabhupada: My Guru Maharaja has declared that the real life of a man is preaching. If anyone has any life in him, then he will preach
Letter: Upendra -- Bombay, 1971
Letter: Upendra -- Bombay, 1971
Prabhupada: My Guru Maharaja said that instead of earning livelihood by showing the Deity in the temple, it is better to take up the profession of street sweeper and live honestly. He said so. The Sweeper, is working hard, working, and getting some money and living. This is an honest life.
Room Conversation -- September 21, 1973, Bombay
Prabhupada: My Guru Maharaja used to say, that "Do not try to see God. Do it in a way that God sees you. “In the same way, do not try to advise God, but to follow God’s counsel. That's our road.
Morning ride -- 22 January 1976, Mayapur
Prabhupada: That's the version of my Guru Maharaja. The whole so-called human society means a bunch of cheaters and deceived. That's all. So don't be a cheater; don't be deceived. Now that's intelligence. >>> Ref. VedaBase => Morning Walk -
- 14 March 1976, Mayapur
Prabhupada: My Guru Maharaja, sometimes I used to lament because I had so many disciples, but no one turned out to be a very pleasant preacher. He lamented, "So only kanistha-adhikaris. We are keeping people simple in the kanistha-adhikara and facing them in the arcana-marga. "So that's not necessary.
The Nectar of Devotion -- November 4, 1972, Vrindavana
Prabhupada: We have learned from our Guru Maharaja that preaching is a very, very important thing, and when one is actually an experienced preacher, then he is able to chant the Hare Krsna mantra without any offence.
Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.7.19 -- September 16, 1976, Vrndavana
Prabhupada : Yes. My Guru Maharaja used to say don't accept spiritual life for living.. Just as we are sending the sankirtana party. If we take it, “Oh, it’s a very easy way to live without working.” We are getting money for our livelihood," this is not wanted.
Bhagavad-gita 3.6 10 -- December 23, 1968, Los Angeles
Prabhupada: My Guru Maharaja used to say, if there is a moon in the sky that is enough to dispel all darkness. No need for billions or billions of stars. So our movement, if anyone, through all the men of the world, can understand Krsna consciousness, it will do great good to the people.
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"And when I die, and when I'm dead, dead and gone,
There'll be one child born and a world to carry on, to carry on,
I'm not scared of dying and I don't really care,
If it's peace you find in dying, well, then let the time be near,
If it's peace you find in dying, when dying time is here,
Just bundle up my coffin cause it's cold way down there,
I hear that's it's cold way down there, yeah, crazy cold way down there,
And when I die and when I'm gone, There'll be one child born and a world to carry on, to carry on,
My troubles are many, they're as deep as a well,
I can swear there ain't no heaven, but I pray there ain't no hell,
Swear there ain't no heaven and pray there ain't no hell,
But I'll never know by living, only my dying will tell,
Only my dying will tell, yeah, only my dying will tell,
And when I die and when I'm gone,
There'll be one child born and a world to carry on, to carry on
Give me my freedom for as long as I be,
All I ask of living is to have no chains on me,
All I ask of living is to have no chains on me,
And all I ask of dying is to go naturally, only want to go naturally,
Don't want to go by the devil, don't want to go by the demon,
Don't want to go by Satan, don't want to die uneasy,
Just let me go naturally,
And when I die and when I'm gone,
There'll be one child born, there'll be one child born
When I die, there'll be one child born
When I die, there'll be one child born
When I die, there'll be one child born
When I die, there'll be one child born..."
When I die, there'll be one child born
When I die, there'll be one child born
When I die, there'll be one child born..."
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