THE TWISTED TALE OF ONE GBC LIE AFTER THE OTHER.
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ABUSE VICTIM NOT HAPPY WITH "ISKCON JUSTICES" VIDEO
I’m angry. Deeply angry. And I’m done pretending I’m not.
The behaviour and attitude coming from Govardhan, especially around children and devotees, is very disturbing on a level that only us survivors truly recognise. What others call “misunderstanding” or “context,” survivors know as minimisation, gaslighting, and abuse culture protecting itself.
As a survivor of abuse connected to the South African yatra, same one “he leads”, I’m telling you plainly: this is triggering, enraging, and unacceptable. Watching people excuse this behaviour feels like being abused all over again this time.
And I’m not interested in respectability and politics while children and devotees are being failed, repeatedly. The resentment and anger you’re seeing from survivors didn’t come out of nowhere, it was earned.
People can keep looking away if they want. I won’t. When are we getting fed up?
GD: To be fair, Govardhan’s foray into discrediting lifelong bans on abusers was something of an outlier in the overall tenor of the presentations. Virtually everyone else (still have about 40 minutes left) either explicitly affirmed the necessity of lifelong bans under certain circumstances, or at least implied that not retaining such an option could expose the institution to catastrophic social and legal fallout.
As a survivor of abuse connected to the South African yatra, same one “he leads”, I’m telling you plainly: this is triggering, enraging, and unacceptable. Watching people excuse this behaviour feels like being abused all over again this time.
And I’m not interested in respectability and politics while children and devotees are being failed, repeatedly. The resentment and anger you’re seeing from survivors didn’t come out of nowhere, it was earned.
People can keep looking away if they want. I won’t. When are we getting fed up?
GD: To be fair, Govardhan’s foray into discrediting lifelong bans on abusers was something of an outlier in the overall tenor of the presentations. Virtually everyone else (still have about 40 minutes left) either explicitly affirmed the necessity of lifelong bans under certain circumstances, or at least implied that not retaining such an option could expose the institution to catastrophic social and legal fallout.
Of course, it’s worth contemplating how much of this is substantive institutional positioning and how much is a performative effort to preserve reputational capital or consolidate authority.
One point of interest was Vinnoy’s presentation on data security. It drew implicit parallels to ISKCON’s historical challenges with information mismanagement, which was often filtered through antiquated platforms like Pamho. What’s unclear is whether the current leadership sees that period as a cautionary tale to improve transparency and governance, or as an example of the importance of keeping data trails minimal and easily controlled.
This is part of greater trend emerging in the world, beginning with Watergate and escalating with WikiLeaks where formal bodies retreat from written records in favor of informal communication, especially in high-stakes areas like diplomacy and executive decision-making. Written discourse tends to slow things down, invite diverse expertise, and enforce coherence through deliberation.
But it also creates records, and with data retention laws and the ever-present risk of leaks, many opt instead for the ephemeral safety of oral exchange. The cost, of course, is that decisions become more visceral, less reflective, and the problem-solving cohort shrinks dramatically. Some analysts attribute the recent degradation of foreign policy nuance to precisely this phenomenon.
The same dynamic appears in ISKCON’s internal processes. The anxiety around data trails may be nudging decision-making into informal, undocumented channels, which is exactly what enabled the missteps of certain historically problematic figures.
Govardhan’s unscripted remarks may be a cautionary example of the dangers of that style. Off-the-cuff charisma tends to dominate in such settings, privileging positional authority over considered thought or collaborative input. Written deliberation, precisely because it invites review, rebuttal, and iteration, has long been the bulwark of institutional resilience. Moving away from that in favor of charismatic immediacy risks eroding the very guardrails that protect communities from poor judgment and concentrated power.
The “peace president” act was always a farce. I voted for Trump twice and won’t pretend otherwise—but today’s events strip away any remaining illusions.
The U.S. attack on Venezuela, the capture of Maduro, and threats against Cuba, Colombia, and Mexico over dubious drug claims reveal the real logic at work: coercion, not restraint. Sovereignty and international norms apply only when they serve U.S. interests.
The Trump Doctrine is the Monroe Doctrine on steroids—19th-century sphere-of-influence politics, accelerated and globalized. Weak nations are punished or replaced; aligned ones get a pass.
PADA: Yep, some old woman is knitting sweaters for her kittens, and Russia declares she is a severe strategic military danger to the Russians, so they need to blow her up, and take out her very dangerous kittens along with her. They are constantly attacking these civilian high-rise residences, with the clear aim and object of killing -- OK a lot of young and old women, includes pregnant women, children, babies, old men, old cat ladies, kittens etc. because they are self evident terrified of these people -- and kittens.
PADA: Yeah the GBC tries to hide things and not keep a record of who is a predator, who is an enabler, and all the rest of it, because there has been a lot of cover up and protection of them.
We got kicked off ISKCON's PAMMHO network as soon as it started. The GBC is very concerned with the public image of having predators around the society, while they vehemently protect a predator like Lokanath swami, they help bury predators in samadhis, and the society is full of many of the enablers of other predators, enablers and protectors of the regime like Jayapataka swami etc.
But at least now they are having to discuss it, and that is because of the pressure we have generated. This is emerging as the elephant in the room topic.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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TRUMP DEVOTEE
The U.S. attack on Venezuela, the capture of Maduro, and threats against Cuba, Colombia, and Mexico over dubious drug claims reveal the real logic at work: coercion, not restraint. Sovereignty and international norms apply only when they serve U.S. interests.
The Trump Doctrine is the Monroe Doctrine on steroids—19th-century sphere-of-influence politics, accelerated and globalized. Weak nations are punished or replaced; aligned ones get a pass.
Trump’s alignment with Israel follows the same pattern. Principles like human rights and the rule of law become selective tools, applied according to power and political convenience. Israel can kill thousands of children with impunity, while Netanyahu receives a hero’s welcome in the United States.
This doesn’t serve everyday Americans. It serves foreign lobbies, corporate greed, and transactional displays of “strength.” I supported Trump before, but I won’t defend this.
PADA: Yes, another follower of Trump told me he finally realized that he uses people like Tulsi Gabbard to make the "America First" "No more wars" platform seem credible, but then we fund Israel, bomb Nigeria, help bomb the Houthis, bomb Iran, intervene in South America, and threaten other nations like Cuba that we will do the same.
In short, Trump uses Tulsi and RFK and others as expendible pawns in his larger game to try to control the entire world direct or indirect. That being said, there are probably a lot of bad governments out there that need eliminating -- which would be nice to take down, but if America keeps trying to be the world's police department, we will go broke funding all that, if we haven't already.
Meanwhile, it looks like we can barely manage the USA, never mind the whole planet. I see no concrete plan for how we are going to "take over managing," or how that will look to the rest of the world. As the saying goes, "you broke it, you own it." Lets hope this ends better than some of our previous interventions.
ys pd
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OLD WOMEN CAT LADIES DECLARED SEVERE DANGER TO RUSSIA
PADA: Yep, some old woman is knitting sweaters for her kittens, and Russia declares she is a severe strategic military danger to the Russians, so they need to blow her up, and take out her very dangerous kittens along with her. They are constantly attacking these civilian high-rise residences, with the clear aim and object of killing -- OK a lot of young and old women, includes pregnant women, children, babies, old men, old cat ladies, kittens etc. because they are self evident terrified of these people -- and kittens.
You'd need to really be paranoid to think old cat ladies -- knitting cat sweaters -- are a dangerous strategic military threat to your nation. These people suffer from extreme paranoid delusions. Even an actual kitten knows -- an old lady -- is not a strategic military danger. These guys don't know that. The good news is that in their future lives, these people will be made into cats, and they will know these things when they are cats. ys pd
It looks like someone is using AI to generate a voice from the text, and there is read along text on the screen. I think this is good for people whose English is not too good, it is very easy to follow. A few devotees have criticized me for using AI images. Well sorry, AI is here to stay and if it can be used, I see no reason why not.
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