Thursday, December 28, 2023

The Real Explanation of the Real Explanation (Kailasa chandra) 12 28 23



PD: So here is what happened. First of all in 1986 Kailasa chandra dasa said that he fully agrees 100% with Kirtanananda and the GBC guru program -- that Sulochana is a drunk, a sahajiya, a "fringy," and a deviated person who is watching TV while drinking beer etc. Therefore, he should not be taken seriously -- because he is not a serious devotee. And of course -- the real intent of the GBC mob and their henchman like Kailasa has been -- to nullify Sulochana's complaints about their bogus gurus, child mistreatment process etc. 

And thus -- we can nullify his complaints -- by nullifying his character, and discredit his claims thereby. And as a side bonus, maybe they could nullify Sulochana himself -- having him terminated, by branding him as dissenter to a regime of false "pure devotees." Which is what happened. 

And then Kailasa's disciple Riktaharshan said that Sulochana's being a fallen devotee was "well known around the Berkeley community" [in 1986]. OK, keep in mind -- the "Berkeley community" that was and still is some GBC's and Kailasa's authority now, at the time of 1986 was worshipping: a percodan pill popping actual Vodka drinking drunk; an illicit s-x predator; and an overall criminal deviant named Srila Hansadutta, whom they considered to be the sum total of the demigods, and Lord and Messiah of the Jagat etc.  

It is amazing that Kirtanananda / various GBC / Kailasa chandra das et al. cite these dubious people as their authority on Sulochana. They go way out of their way to find an actual drunk's worship process to be their authority to prove -- we are the drunks. Of course this begs the question, why are us drunks protesting the child mistreatment -- while Kailasa and his GBC pals are helping the child mistreating regime by protesting -- us? You mean, drunks are more advanced than these GBC / Kailasa people, thus the drunks know child mistreatment must be opposed while GBC / Kailasa team does not know that -- self evidently.

These folks go to the very people who are worshiping leaders of the child mistreatment regime, and ask these people who have been worshiping drunken predators -- to make their decisions on me and Sulochana. Yep, Sulochana was fallen for maybe having a beer once in awhile, but Kailasa's disciples had been worshiping an actual drunk and lusty predator as if he was as good as God. 

Real discrimination on Kailasa's sources here. He goes to the actual drunk messiah's project's folks to gather information about us. And Srila Prabhupada says -- when a guru is having an affair with a disciple, it is the same as a father having an affair with his own daughter. So the followers of this process are de facto worshiping pedos, and this is the type of quality people Kailasa considers a higher authority than me and Sulochana. Kailasa never asked me about Sulochana's activities even once, he only consults with the pedo worship clan for his version of history.

Then, they all ganged up -- the Kirtanananda / Hansadutta people, the GBC people and Kailasa -- to discredit Sulochana by saying he was an intoxicated, deviating and fallen "sahajiya" or false devotee. When Sulochana's mother heard of all these complaints from the Kailasa crew -- she was depressed and mortified, and was crying at the insults these GBC / Kailasa people were heaping on her departed son. We concluded, the whole gang of them all disliked Sulochana -- and thus they wanted to defend their child mistreatment guru regime by discrediting him, and that aided his tragic demise. Now they are trying to cover up their crime of assisting his departure, by discrediting him.  

Sulochana's mother said -- you mean to say -- my son gave his life try to fix their religion, and now they are criticizing that he was a fallen intoxicated person. Aren't they doing that to justify their having him terminated? Well yes, that is how Kirtanananda, the GBC, Kailasa ilk and the Hansadutta team people all gathered and ganged up to discredit Sulochana -- in part to justify taking him out. Sulochana's mother is right 100%. 

In other words, none of them cared that they were causing extreme grief to the parents and friends of Sulochana by more or less saying his departure was justified. Do these GBC / Kailasa people care that they make Sulochana's mother and others cry -- all the more, when their victims are already suffering in extreme grief? Basically "yeah they deserve it." And GBC folks / Kailasa say Sulochana should not have taken on Kirtanananda, knowing it is dangerous. OK so they wanted that the crimes against children there would continue? Many children were liberated from that GBC society after Sulochana departed, he sacrificed himself for the greater good of others, which is glorious and not something to be avoided. The police do that every day, sacrifice for the greater good of the society, and no one complains, rather the society glorifies them. 

Anyway, it is said that the asuras are happy to increase the misery of their victims. So the GBC / Kailasa team wanted to make the suffering of Sulochan's friends and mother [their victims] -- worse -- by adding insult to injury quite literally. It is what these Kirtanananda and Kailasa type folks do all the time, make their victims suffer all the more. And then a number of GBC folks left ISKCON, actually hundreds, including some of their top gurus. This was a big purge of relief overall. A great chunk of their top heavy guru process burden was lifted which was good, except for GBC and Kailasa nay sayers who were not happy.  

And Sulochana himself said, many, many times, they are doing this name calling on me -- on purpose to make me a target. And self evidently, they did. So Kailasa wants us to listen to the people who have been worshipping illicit s-x deviants like Hansadutta as their messiahs -- messiahs who really are taking drugs -- as our authorities. We should listen to Kailasa's authorities -- i.e. people who have been worshipping illicit s-x deviants as messiahs -- as higher authority than Sulochana, who -- despite his defects, at least he worships a pure devotee. 

Of course, we could get into various details, for example, how could Sulochana be watching TV -- when he had no TV? And he had no electricity in his van to run a TV. And what difference would it make if he was drinking beer and watching TV or not, when he is complaining about mass child mistreatment and predator gurus. 

Isn't mass child mistreatment a superior issue than watching TV and drinking beer. So this is how child mistreatment cults dehumanize their critics. Well, the critic is not as serious follower of the child mistreatment cult, he is watching TV. Thus, they dehumanize their critics to make them targets. This also happened in WWII, opponents of various regimes were dehumanized to make them targets for termination.

Which is what Sulochan said these people are doing to him -- like various GBC, Kailasa and Riktaharshan et al. -- making him a target. Discrediting his character to dehumanize him, and making him a target for termination -- which is what they did, according to -- Sulochana. 

Then the GBC "reformers" said that we need to promote the Madhyam adhikary as guru. And Kailasa immediately took up their idea and he helped them promote that, writing position papers for many years for his fellow GBC "guru reformers" and Rocana's site, and also writing papers direct which the GBC folks circulated at their meetings. Except, Sulochana himself said that the GBC / Kailasa idea of worship of a conditioned soul is -- like finding a dog manure in your sweet rice, he never agreed with Kailasa and his GBC clan to worship conditioned souls. He thought their whole idea was a dangerous sahajiya idea, since sahajiyas worship conditioned souls. 

Then the Kailasa people said that Srila Prabhupada's statements that Madhyamas can fall down and become asuras are utter nonsense and "hogwash," because Kailasa is teaching his followers that the teachings of Krishna and the acharya are rubbish. OK later on they were forced to agree that yes, in fact they are duplicating the GBC in promoting conditioned souls, who can become asuras, as gurus. But this happens all the time with the followers of the GBC, as soon as we cite shastra, they say it is rubbish. And that is why Srila Prabhupada says the deviants have no respect for the words of the acharyas. It is amazing that Sulochana said all of them are promoting dog manure as their gurus, and almost everyone nowadays agrees, that is what they have done factually.   

But they only agreed after we exposed them many times over -- that they have been saying Krishna's teachings are utter nonsense and hogwash, and this is the wrong idea. Then the Kailasa people tell me he is more advanced than us, but none of our followers are EVER saying the Vedas are nonsense and hogwash? A person who trains his followers to complain that Krishna's teaching are utter hogwash -- is more advanced than us? 

They never explain why they say the words of Krishna and His pure devotee are hogwash in the first place? And they never explain why they claim to follow Sulochana, who says Kailasa wants to have children worship their dog's manure gurus? When did Sulochana ever say he wants children to worship Kailasa's dog manure conditioned soul messiahs? He never did, it is a bluff and a misrepresentation of Sulochana's words. 

Then later on Kailasa realized Sulochana was becoming popular, despite his attempts to take Sulochana down and terminate him both figuratively and literally. So then he started to imply that Sulochana's writings were edited and approved by Kailasa, because he wanted to take credit for Sulochana's works. No, there is no statement in any of Sulochana's writings where he says he agrees with GBC / Kailasa that we need to worship conditioned souls -- or their dog manure messiahs -- as the GBC and Kailasa have been promoting. They are now trying to say Sulochana agrees with them -- with worshiping a dog's manure -- as guru? 

Then Berkeley devotees were very upset with Kailasa when he helped sell the temple farm, took half the money from the sale of the property, and half the cows, and never informed the devotees where the cows or money went to. We only found out later where the cows went. Of course ISKCON gurus and leaders pull these same property sale scam tricks all the time on the devotees, nothing new here. Riktaharshana said Kailasa was paranoid at the farm and he could not wait to literally take off with the money and run, hey, just like Kailasa's guru compadres have done over and over.    

Of course Kailasa also repeats the GBC saying that Srila Prabhupada's writings are devoid of divyam jnanam that destroys sins [diksha]. The writings of the Vedas have authors who are "absent and absentia." OK, so God and His pure devotees are absent, so why bother worshiping them? This is straight up atheism, God's worship is worship of the absent and absentia.

And the writings of the acharyas are posthumous, post samadhi and post mortem, also exactly what the GBC says [and atheists]. And the people who are worshiping the pure devotee and Krishna "are being cheated" -- which is actually also what the atheists say. And Kailasa says -- when Srila Prabhupada says that Jesus is eternal, that is because Srila Prabhupada is a karta bhaja sahajiya. And Kailasa also says there is no need to have trained and initiated people taking care of the deity, which has lead to deities being placed into ghetto like conditions, which has made these folks quite happy to see that not only devotees are suffering but so is the deity.

I could go on here, but this is a summary. Of course, many Krishna devotees often doubt my claims, but -- local law enforcement, Dallas courts, Feds, New York Times, Dr. J. Stillson Judah, Rolling Stone Magazine, India courts, BBTI courts, and numerous others, accept my version, as do thousands and thousands of devotees. But that some devotees doubt my version is not new, they doubted me all along to the peril of their society. ys pd   

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