Friday, December 8, 2023

Kirtanananda Samadhi Imbroglio 12 08

 


PADA: Yes, my friends in Vrndavana told me that Kirtanananda carcass was starting to stink so Gopal Krishna hired a big refrigerator. Then Radhanath got Gopal Krishna to get the government permits. In any case, Gopal Krishna, Radhanath and the temple president of Vrndavana temple -- Panca Gauda -- were all at the installation ceremony, acting as the head priests. 

Of course they also buried porno swami Gunagrahi in Vrndavana, and other deviants were buried in Mayapur. But this is all part of the pattern of glorifying deviants as Krishna's successors which they have been doing all along. The India Continental Committee people wrote to tell me the reason i do not endorse deviants in samadhis is that I am a mleccha who does not understand Hindu culture. 

Well no, I do understand, a person who contaminates the holy dham with the worship of predators in samadhis is called an aparadhi. And why do they do that? So they can make little children worship predators as messiahs in samadhi, which they have done the whole time. It is called corrupting the morals of minors, which is a crime here in the USA, evidently, not there. 

So this is the goal of Lokanath swami and his India ICC committee, they want little children to worship their homosexuals / pedophiles / drug addicts / deviants / as God's successors, then they have the nerve to tell us we do not worship predators as samadhi saints because we are mlecchas.  

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AR: His grave (i dont call it a samadhi) is on parikrama marg in vrindavan. This is just a puspa samadhi. Don't feel bad doing parikrama, it is just flowers.

SJ: Still, it’s a public permanent honoring of a notorious child abuser and all-around criminal.

VP: Well to me it doesn't seem right whatever that is. I don't need to see a picture of this person walking by. And that unfortunately spoils it for me. It's best to make your own temple in your own heart.

SN: I remember seeing his “grave” on parikrama marg, the area after Pani Ghat, after he left the body…. But I haven’t seen it lately, is it still there or did they move it?

AR: Still -- it counts when we do parikrama.

LP: Their faces are on the samadhi stones ... its enough.

AR: I think it is personal to outweigh what you find important, there is no right or wrong in this matter, but it is personal. There are also other samadhis there of great acaryas and of course the govardhan sila given to our Srila Sanatan goswami. But as I said it is personal and no right or wrong. No one should be jugded for either not doing or doing parikrama there.

PD: If personal opinion takes over what is right and wrong for the dham, we are doomed. We need to take the opinion of the saints, worship of molesters is very sinful.

KP: Money can buy anything. In time people will forget about his crimes and worship him. That is the whole idea.

VP: So sad and terrible, just to even unconsciously worship him by doing Parikrama, it's a shame. More people should know that. I don't think anybody is aware of that they surround the Samadhi of a very big Demon, unfortunately. What to do? Who cares? If ISKCON doesn't object. Silently they may want him worshipped.

KP: What I am seeing with the people in ISKCON is that they just mow over everything. Being a temple worshipper is not the same than being a devotee. That's very obvious. Nobody can chant the name who is worshipping a pedophile. Out and over! This worship means nothing! First all have to start out with being a good human being.

JND: Why would ISKCON object? They are literally the ones to put him in samadhi on the parikrama marga. They also got the land for his samadhi.

SD: If it makes you feel any better it's just a pushpa samadhi which they have for so many devotees that pay the temple money. The real travesty is the actual samadhi with his dead corpse his disciples are building in another part of vrindavan.

VP: Sorry, it doesn't really make me feel better. But by the way the corpse samadhi is in the Goshala I think, and for sure am not going to go there either. This is such a horrible offense to the dham.

RD: We should rally up and march the streats of Vrndavan demanding that he and any other false followers of Śrila Prabhupada be taken out of there. The gundas can help us to get him dug up and taken out of there after they hear about our abuse from this demoniac man.

I am so angry about this news!!!

I am so sorry for all your suffering around his man.

Thank you so much for noticing this and telling us what you discoverd.

Who is the other individual next it him laying in Samadhi ?

KP: He was excommunicated from ISKCON. Radhanath then put him into Samadhi. They are not of Bhakti. They are demoniac souls who came specifically to destroy innocent souls Bhakti and keep them away from their spiritual identity. I thought his Samadhi is somewhere else!!! Does anyone know why Radhanath put him into Samadhi ?

RD: Where is the land of this Samadhi? I think Radhanath is also independant of ISKCON. He took over all of Kirtananda's Temples, and projects that are independant from ISKCON. Somehow or another he controls all of the leaders of ISKCON.

PD: Radhanath is now the main leader of ISKCON, he is not outside, he is the main inside authority.

RHD: Kirtanananda is being garlanded by his right hand man Radhanath.

SD: Radhanath in some ways is Small Potatoes in Vrindavan compared to Gopal Krishna the GBC of ISKCON Vrindavan who also helped with Kirtanananda's samadhi ceremony. 

Of course the Elephant in the room is Srila Prabhupad's self proclaimed poisoning. Nothing new here this is the way the world works. Why should anyone be particularly surprised?

Like every other religious organization, ISKCON although a very small one even by Indian standards, is a fairly compromised, materialistic, mainstreamed religious organization, aligned more or less with the New World Order Globalist Cabal's agenda. ISKCON is cooperating with the World Economic Forum, World Health Organization and the United Nations for example.

Most of its current membership is very pleased and satisfied by this. This is also part of Srila Prabhupad's legacy. This is the all part of the ISKCON

"Brand ".

Why would anyone find going to Radha Damodara Mandir any more objectionable than going to ISKCON Vrindavan? Welcome to the material world. To paraphrase Srila Prabhupad, "You can't buy a ticket to Vrindavan."

RHD: That just how slimy he is. I got personal experience to see who was really the most powerful. He is like a slithing snake that goes by you without being noticed, but he will kill you without any notice.

DD: I have been told that Tamal Krishna is next to Srila Prabhupada's samadhi. And then someone else told me Kirtananandana Is nearby also. The gang is re-assembing.

RHD: His disciples still do glorify him and worship him. It makes me want to barf all over them. They need to be woken up!!! Some of my daughters best friends are his desciples. They are getting ready to go to his eco village for his annual retreat with some of his famous celebrity associates. He puts these retreats on for teaching seminars to wealthy people on how to become billionares like he is. 

These young 30+ year olds think he is a pure devotee. My daughter has told them that he raped me and got off on many crimes, and they think he is a reformed criminal.

VP: OK they can keep their opinion and live with it - hope they are going to wake up from ignorance one day.

DD: So therefore we should not claim they are saints, especially when reality shows otherwise …

ZD: We are good enough qualified to see child abusers, dont make a philosophy out of obvious facts. So you think that a person could be an abuser and pedophile, and at the same time to have bhakti???

MD: It is all karma, bhakti is not part of karma.

RHD: MD, are a former gurukuli? What years did you go to what gurukulas. Did you go to Kieth Hams Community schools ? Did suffer a childhood of repeatedly his analy raping you and your friends ? I am trying to understand where you are coming from. What was your childhood experience lije ? Please fill me in?

Srila Prabhupada once said that Keith ham was trying to take over and be the controller over him since day 2 of joining him. What do have to answer to that?

ZD: MD you are in a deep ignorance because person who has bhakti cannot do such abominable crimes, they are in tama guna. This is a waste of time debating with someone who’s either trolling or doesn’t know basic facts

EF: That is nuts man. Faith is one thing, but blind faith is foolish.

DD: Open your eyes. Anyone who is sexually abusing little boys CANNOT simultaneously have bhakti for Krishna. Don't say foolish things. I was there!

BC: I would do my best to avoid worshipping him even while allowing for this possibility to be true.

MD: "Even the most abominable act ... he is still a sadhu."

PD: Oh no, here we go again. Covering up for molesting as saintly.

BD: In the purport there are some conditions for the applicablility of this line.

EF: That is complete crap prabhu. NEVER IS THAT TRUE.

PJ: Last I went thru the Radha Damodar Temple's courtyard; I was wondering also how these devotees managed to have nice samadhis. What is the process of selection? Is it just by giving some donation or what? Regardless of what they have been convicted of? Anyhow his name is Kirtanananda not Kirtananda.

DD: Back in the 80s I served in New Vrindavan and Kirtanananda was there. I am disciple of Srila Prabhupada since 70s but I definitely know things of Kirtanananda And how he deviated. I was shocked to hear long time ago when he left his body that they put samadhi. I think they put his main samadhi right next to Srila Prabhupada. But all of the samadhis are not that far away in Vrndavana.

KC Dasi: Everyone, this is the comment of a trolly troll. If you look at his account, he has 3 friends! He created his account to harass us. He does not deserve any response. This is typical of GBC trolls. 

DD: A real genuine Devotee always thinks everyone else loves Krishna and a genuine Devotee feels he has no love for Krishna. So when you say you have bhakti and they don't? This is simply arrogance

LP: Their followers paid good money. They will say anything to defend the GBC.

AV: Despite protests of local devotees, they went ahead. Money is honey as they say.

VP: Really sad situation. Religious people are the biggest business people nowadays. No real bhakti to be seen anywhere only money.

KP:  I ve seen, in my opinion, not real sadhus ... but truly most pretenders.

DD: They did not pay good money… They paid with bad money. When you give money in service to a murderer and child abuser This is called blood money. 

LP: Yes ... right all of it is ill gotten gains.

VDB: Yes, maybe devotees can do petition and send to the manager of samadhi area ... You need to remove this from Holy place ...

VP: I was thinking of talking to the Goswami there as my husband knows him from childhood times. I just don't think that he will be able to remove it now. It's already quite old. I will try to talk nevertheless.

LP: No way ... money is more powerful there.

MC: Better late than never. Future generations and grand grand disciples of Shrila Prabhupada in decades to come will blame those who knew the truth but lacked moral courage to voice out or try to make things right. Before trying to please Krishna, it's more important to please the spiritual master and act according to what instructions He gave. 

It's high time that those who got ostracized or victimized by any evil "devotee" to obtain justice and liberate their minds from the harm and atrocities they faced. Remember that no one is stronger that Time and no one knows Krishna's plan. As long as we are sincere and devoted to the mission of Shree Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, there is no need to fear any GBC or self appointed bogus gorus . Nitai Gauranga. 

MA: Also Hansadutta is there.

VP: Yeah so outrageous! It's terrible to think who people are worshipping.

MA: Perhaps that is one reason why Srila Prabhupada wants us to be independent thinkers, not to end up worshipping Hiranyakashipu.

VP: Nowadays you can only see these Hiranyakashipurs everywhere here. The real ones have all gone away somewhere else, where they can't be seen. Religion means business in India now.

MA: Like that everywhere, not only in India.

PDD: I've seen that a few years ago.

IB: You can’t “put” someone is samadhi. They must enter themselves, upon their behaviour and consciousness. This is akin to a park bench dedicated in someone’s name. Even the mausoleum on parikram marg, with his body in it, is just a park bench which someone has money to invest in.

Iskcon has not much to do with Radha Damodar’s “samadhi” area. Unfortunately some representatives chose to attend the funeral…. Very poor taste. Sycophants waved enough money at the samadhi dept to make this happen. Doesn’t mean he’s an elevated soul.

VP: Unfortunately ISKCON chooses to worship various abusers alive or dead and somehow doesn't take a stand against child abuse. That's the sign of a poisoned leadership who have no morals but an inflated egomaniac consciousness of standing above moral law, because of there so called 50 decade service which they deem to be superior to human values of Compassion and understanding.

SSC: Cult people can't distinguish right from wrong. Lucky is who stepped out and opened their eyes.

VP: Absolutely right! Almost everyone here, temple is a dead funeral home.

R Dasi: Yes, bogus sects, just a sect exploiting humans, ruining their valuable lives.

MA: Unbelievable how Iskcon allows this.

D Dasa: I don’t know that ISKCON had any powers to prevent it. It’s a non ISKCON property and he had supporters outside of ISKCON that must have negotiated with the temple leaders there.

MA: https://youtu.be/GWCBev0oy0o?si=OsArFbXO-K9scJzE

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MA: Ceremony of the Puspa “samadhis”.

NR: Iskcon not only doesn’t object but actively supports the legacy of pedophilia by its management. And in India that is very easy to carry on with impunity. May the roar of Lord Narasinghadev wake y’all up.

PJ: This is obviously not Iskcon since they are in dispute with the temple administration; and since Kirtanananda has been excommunicated more than 20 years ago.

PD: No, Radhanath and Gopal Krishna helped, they are ISKCON. 

ME: The MONEY, THE BIG BOSS.....whoever math, this temple belong to, there is mafias everywhere there.

B Dāsī: I agree, it is completely inappropriate that any kind of recognition of such a person is in such a place. There's no way it can be called a samadhi.

Such a person's recognition in that sacred place lays discredit upon the parampara system, when the people apparently recognised as saints are not actually so. It's cheating.

Different to what KP said above, I think it is more likely that in time the inappropriateness of that charlatan's presence there will be recognised, and it'll be removed. I pray it is that way, to preserve our culture's integrity.

RR Das: You can thank his disciple, Bapuji, who had Mr Green Eggs and Ham sign over his entire estate to him, in exchange for the "glorious burial" and successorship.... and how did you like all those plastic trees? All the existing kalpa vriksha trees were cut down to make way for the plastic ones. Money money money.

M Dasi: "All the existing kalpa vriksha trees were cut down to make way for the plastic ones." What? I can't even begin to imagine how offensive this was. OMG! Kill dham vasis? How are these things going on?

DM Das: It's poetic liscense to say trees were killed to put in plastic ones. 50 years ago there may have been trees also in the open air samadhi courtyard. That courtyard has long sense been covered over by rooves etc. Now in recent years fake trees have gone in. It's ironic for sure. Still the mistakes of leadership don't need to be exaggerated, it just makes critics in general seem less substantial.

MI: Somebody needs to deface that memorial. It's horrible. Approved off no doubt by his sansasi disciple Radanath. It's sickening to think that iskcon gurus will eventually end up with their own Samadi in the dham. Kali yuga seems to have few boundaries. No wonder traditional Gaudiyas view iskcon as a laughing stock when they Behold such insulting sites on parikarama.

LW: They have no understanding of what a samadhi is meant for.

TRD: RNS paid lakhs of Money for (pushpa)samadhi..

RNS 2023 karthik Gopi sahajiya avatar in Vrindavan....

MA: Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura, he said that "When our men will be sahajiya, oh, they'll be more dangerous"

Prabhupad : Sahajiyā... Sahaj means easy. Easy-going. They will smoke cigarette at the same time they will play rasa-līlā. This is sahajiyā. This is sahajiyā. They will do all nonsense; still, they will become God, imitation of God."

(Srila Prabhupada Morning Walk, Bombay, May 1, 1974)

All these Maharajas going to Sahajiya and Baba's and learning, How to do acting when kirtan, showing Bhava to Audience, all Mechanical type of acting while doing kirtan.

AR Dasi: So horribly disturbing.

NC: How many alleged devotees are buried on or around temple property?

HT: Om Vishnupada His Divine Grace? He was an offender against Srila Prabhupada from the very beginning. Someone is way out of touch here.

TB: Such a shame! 

AR: Shameless feel no shame.

Y Devi: It should be taken down. No if, or maybes. I’m sure it’s only there because for one paid for it to be there!

R Dasi: Welcome to the disgusting Hare Krishna world on earth.


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