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Prabhupadanugas USA / Silent Acquiescing / Kailasa Update / Russia House etc. 7 20


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Prabhupada: In India, what is going on as HINDU DHARMA, it's a BOGUS thing. It has no meaning. Anyone who is not going in the terms of Chaitanya's cult, he is a bogus.

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DEVOTEES SILENT ON CRIMES

PADA: In Germany many people knew about the death camps, but they silently acquiesced. That type thing also happens in ISKCON. We "dissenters" are ringing the alarm bells -- and many "senior devotees" tell me to shut up and go along with the program. Don't make waves. And that is why various victims call it "a conspiracy of silence." 

It is far from a conspiracy of silence, us whistleblowers are often silenced with the most odious tactics, same type tactics used in Germany against dissenters at the time of the camps. And our people still are often banned from their temples, shunned, harassed, and -- worse. 

A friend of mine was just now kicked out of a temple because he complained about a teacher whose bad actions sent a boy to the hospital. The bad teacher gets to stay, the whistleblower has to leave. Multiply that type thing by thousands of times, and the results are not hard to predict. 

And how will the victims feel about the bad actors being allowed to stay, and the dissenters being banned, they will self evidently feel like they are unwanted, useless objects and they are not being even minimally protected, and they would be correct. The whole atmosphere has to change, not just removing one or two leaders. ys pd

KAILASA UPDATE

PADA: Yes, so Kailasa is now citing the Gaudiya Matha's "limited guru" with "limited disciples" and "limited knowledge" taking "limited sins" idea, and indeed it appears he is citing one of their documents, because I have not ever seen these citations you quote. Srila Prabhupada says the only bona fide writings of Srila Sarawaswati -- that are not edited -- are the Brahma Samhita, and no mention of this "limited guru" or Madhyam guru is found in there to my knowledge. 

Anyway, so the Kailasa proposal is (A) Limited realized guru, (B) Limited amount of followers (C) Limited preaching capacity. Whereas Srila Prabhupada wants an international society with potential for unlimited numbers of books, temples and followers. He never said we should only have a half dozen disciples of a Madhyam, maybe one little village center somewhere, and stop there. 

Meanwhile Kailasa has produced ZERO names of ANY Madhaym guru in our line. He has produced ZERO names of the Madhyam guru he is allegedly promoting in 45 years. And he has named ZERO disciples of the Madhayam guru in 45 years. And he thus has ZERO temples and ZERO programs for people to come and worship his ZERO Madhyam guru, who does not even exist. In other words, he wants people to boil the milk, but no milk exists here, it is all ZERO. 

If we expand too much there will be problems, so let us promote dismantling the international process and expanding to -- ZERO? Expanding to ZERO does not boil any milk, there is none there to boil! 

Yep, many followers is going to produce some different results, some maybe good and some bad, but ZERO followers is going to produce ZERO results. In any case, I cannot find your Madhyam quotes, but we already know Srila Prabhupada said his followers cannot take sins, at all, as in none, as in ZERO. 

He never said -- later on we can take limited amounts sins when we are Madhyam etc., he never ordered or established that that should be done. He said that there will be ritviks and when the ritviks deviate, they will be replaced, that means they are not liberated, and he also said a Madhyam can also fall down, which means he also is not liberated. Worship of the non-liberated is the Gaudiya Matha idea, I am glad Kalaisa finally admits he is with them after 45 years, and he is apparently citing them. ys pd

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ELECTRIC CARS ARE THE ANSWER! WELL MAYBE!

PADA: Yep, some devotees are in favor of electric cars, some not. Most of the USA power grid is currently straining just to keep up with all the air conditioning going on. The current grid would not support charging a mass of cars. 

Therefore!

Unless everything in future connected to electric cars is going to be charged with a whole new system of solar panels, wind turbines etc. -- there is no easy solution here. Agreed. At the same time the weather is going quite bonkers -- and I believe man made carbon emissions are a large factor in these changes. The Amish folks are going towards electric bikes, and that seems to have a better chance of making some progress if mass adopted.

In other words -- Kali Yuga's activities has increased the effect of Kali Yuga. And transferring the karma load from one problem to another problem is not an easy way out. Srila Prabhupada wanted simple living for many reasons. And if that policy was adopted -- the planet might be saved at least somewhat, but don't hold your breath. It is not likely to manifest, even for most devotees.


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Shyamasundar and Nishtharani, the owners of the Russian House, deceived the 
GBC ISKCON.

On April 1, 2022, they were arrested on charges of violating the visa regime. In total, about twelve criminal cases have been opened against them, they are recognized as particularly dangerous criminals. Shyamasundar is still in prison, for a year and four months now, and Nishtharani, not having served a year, was released on bail.

The Delhi and Vrindavan GBC ISKCON are actively helping them. Unofficially, of course. Basically, they use their well-established ancestral connections so that these two criminal elements escape justice. GBC ISKCON of Vrindavan actively helped Nishtharani, not for free, of course, to get out on bail. They even invested their money, about ten million rupees, to get Nishtharani out on bail. This is the money that devotees donate to the temple.

In return, Nishtharani promised that she would give GBC ISKCON ten apartments of the Russian House. But as soon as she was recently released, she refused to give GBC ISKCON the promised ten apartments as payment for her bail, and gave only four apartments.

Moreover, Shyamasundar promised GBC ISKCON that if he was released, he would give GBC ISKCON all his apartments, all his possessions. But when Nishtharani was released, she declared that she would not give anything to GBC ISKCON, she would pull her husband out herself, and her husband's promises did not interest her.

Children eat their parents.

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THE DEMONS DISGUISED AS "DEVOTEES" WERE ALL AROUND SHRILA PRABHUPADA PRETENDING TO BE VERY INTIMATE, FAITHFUL AND OBEDIENT DISCIPLES..,BUT IN FACT WERE/ARE KALI CHELAS FULL OF POISON AND BIGGEST OFFENDERS AT SHRILA PRABHUPADA'S LOTUS FEET..!!!

THESE ARE THE ""GBC"", THAT THE IGNORANT AND BLIND VICTIMS FOLLOW / OBEY / WORSHIP!!!

Prabhupada: "One of my disciples is simply waiting -- when will the old man die so that I can become guru."

Sruta kirti dasa: "The mood was very sombre and intense. I've already described how he asked his disciples not to touch his feet saying, 'By their touching my feet I have to suffer. They may not be trying to achieve some goal by touching my feet, still the spiritual master has to suffer by accepting their sinful reactions.' Now Srila Prabhupada said things to me that I did not comprehend. It was very disturbing. 

The words cut through my heart. He mentioned it to me on two separate occasions during his illness saying, 'One of my disciples is simply waiting -- when will the old man die so that I can become guru.' I could not believe what I was hearing. I never imagined that day that Srila Prabhupada would not be with us. I was young and naive and thought Srila Prabhupada would be with us until he was 100 years old. Thoughts of his being gone and others giving initiation had never been a subject of conversation. He sat up in his bed and looking at me said, "This illness is because EIGHTY PERCENT OF THE LEADERS ARE NOT FOLLOWING."

Sruta Kirti dasa diary, Tuesday, March 20, 2012

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