Tuesday, May 25, 2021

Hanuman Croatia on "Pedophile Guru Tattva"


PADA: Hanuman Croatia is finally addressing the ISKCON "Pedophile Guru" problem. Goody! It is amazing  that in the 1980s when we started to say "homosexual guru" or "pedophile guru" and / or "homosexual pedophile guru" -- many people thought we had totally lost our minds. You are making "ooooh fence." Don't use these terms! However, as we see, more and more people are ALSO starting to use these SAME terms.  

He makes some good points here. 

*** Why are the victims having to make their own expose web sites? 

*** Why are none of the "senior people" advocating for this victim, or many other victims? 

*** Why is yet another person saying -- they want to live in a society where no pedophiles are the gurus? 

*** Why isn't the leadership cleaning this up, and instead an independent devotee has to bring this up? 

*** Why did Sanaka Rsi apologize for exposing the pedophile issue? 

*** Where is the leadership on this issue? 

Then he says, the internet has created a situation where ISKCON leaders no longer control the narrative nowadays. So it is no longer possible for them to "stop the criticizing." And because of all the propaganda about the molesting and so on, more people are waking up (albeit gradually).   

Meanwhile, someone else says they want to congratulate the GBC members who stood up against Lokanath "in private." Why are they only standing up -- in private? Why can't we make a public statement on the issue, should pedophiles be worshiped as gurus in ISKCON or not? Then Hanuman says that it is not just the leaders, but all of the rest of the people who went along with it. OK, and we would say, that includes Sridhar Swami, who was boosting the GBC's guru program, and he was voted into it.   

Anyway, he says more people are waking up, and that is a fact. ys pd 

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PADA: Well it is simple really prabhu, some of the "new people" are -- the same people who are banning us, beating us, threatening to kill us, chasing us with baseball bats, suing us, and killing us, not sure why we would want more of that? Hee hee. As soon as they find a person who has been (for example) initiated by Kirtanananda, they fall at that persons feet and kiss his shoes, but as soon as they find out someone worships Prabhupada, they want to kill us. 

It is a pro-pedophile guru cult, simply stated. I am not sure why you are not able to see this point? What else can we add to make it more clear, they hate the worshipers of Prabhupada, and the love the worshipers of pedophiles, and that has been the case all along since 1978. 

And people like Patita Uddharana, Govinda Dasi, Jadurani, and / or many / most of the sannyasas etc. all went along with these deviations, and attacked us as "the bogus ritviks" -- because we failed to support their pedophile guru process and its hand maidens like Narayan Maharaja et al. 

ys pd 

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1 comment:

  1. M Dasi: Hanuman is realizing ... the root problem? The people who worship GBC gurus ... or the pedophile gurus ... are welcome in ISKCON. The people who worship Prabhupada are banned. That problem needs to be fixed ... or there is nothing left to worry about.

    A religion that bans the worshipers of the founder guru ... while allows the worshipers of pedophile gurus ... is not ever going to work properly. And none of the citizens will be happy in that kingdom. It is sad that Patita Uddharana, Govinda dasi, Jadurani, Trivrikrama swami, Satsvarupa swami and so many of the other seniors ... betrayed their guru ... and stabbed his children in the back by giving them false gurus. And they think worship of the pure devotee is "ritvik snitvik." Shame on them all!

    Hanuman is right ... the people who stood back and allowed this are also to blame. I feel bad for them ... their future is very darkness. Many of the critics say ... worship of pure devotees "is not found in our tradition." But worship of pedophiles ... is in the tradition? The tradition of what? No wonder they ban people like us ... we are on to their sham and scam.

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