Friday, May 6, 2011

Tripurari swami feedback (ISKCON) Friday 05/06/11

Dear PADA, You might sound authoritative to people who are totally ignorant of the history, but I can assure you that for those of us who do know you sound utterly insane. Caitanyadasa108

PADA: OK what is the history? I was in San Francisco when Tripurari was trying to get voted in as guru by Kirtanananda, I am an eye-witness. Tripurari thought that if he can get the votes of the homosexual pedophile messiahs, that would make him a messiah too. I was there. Where were you at the time? You were not there, you do not know the history. ys pd
CD: That's your version of the history. Other eye witnesses don't corroborate it. Question: do you believe Srila Prabhupada was omniscient? If you do then you have to reject him too, because that would mean he knew about the child molestation that was going on in his mission and yet let it go on.
Caitanyadasa108

PADA:  CD 108 There were a few molestings before 1977, and when that occured in Holland we called the police and had the molester arrested, Srila Prabhupada approved of that. Tripurari on the other hand wants to be certified as a messiah by a child molester, so he supports having child molesters in the role of messiahs and he wanted to be voted in by them. Srila Prabhupada also said that he was not omniscient, because only God is. Are you saying since God is omniscient, God endorses criminals? ys pd
CD to @pada1008
1. Tripurari Maharaja was told by Srila Sridhara Maharaja to initiate disciples; he did not and does not "want to be certified" by Kirtanananda or anyone else.
2. Tripurari Maharaja does not support people who are unqualified to be gurus. Don't conflate tolerance and support.
3. When all is said and done the results speak for themselves. People can compare your libel and slander with what Tripurari Maharaja says and then make a choice as to whom to believe.
Caitanyadasa108 10 hours ago
PADA: @Caitanyadasa108 Tripurari was trying to get voted in by Kirtanananda first, and he said if he could not get a vote from Kirtanananda then he would go to Sridhara. Sridhara is the founder father of the 1936 homosexual guru in the Gaudiya Matha who had dissenters murdered. So you are correct, once Tripurari found he could not get a homosexual pedophile certificate, he had to surrender and just get the plain homosexual guru / dissenter murdering program certificate. thats right ys pd
CD to PADA: God is omniscient, no doubt, but he still sanctions everything that goes on. Sanction is not the same as endorsement. Caitanyadasa108

PADA @Caitanyadasa108 Tripurari actually endorsed Kirtanananda's homosexual guru program by trying to get voted in there, and he endorses Sridhara and his homosexual guru program because he tried to get voted in there. Clearly Tripurari endorses homosexual guru projects, he was beating their doors down to get voted in. ys pd

To PADA: Where is the information from? About Ananta's support even after his fall.
Satyavrata108 
Why those devotees couldn't leave the place as well?
Satyavrata108 

PADA to @Satyavrata108 So now you are saying Sridhara should make bogus gurus, and everyone should just leave and let the mission end? Why is that a good idea? I have stayed on as a devotee and have fought against Sridhara and his bogus gurus and we are building an alliance of devotees, many of them also still in ISKCON. Why should we tell people to abandon ISKCON? This is another Sridhara idea, ruin the mission, and tell everyone to leave, so he wants to destroy the mission, you are correct. ys pd
To PADA When Ananta's ashastric behavior became known Sridhar Maharaj left this camp to live along at first at SP's house and then in Navadvip. Satyavrata108

PADA @Satyavrata108 Yes but meanwhile the Gaudiya devotees were being banned, beaten and killed by Ananta's followers, so what you are saying is, Sridhara Maharaja simply left these devotees to suffer and die. You are correct. He did the same thing after 1977, when the beatings, killings and mass child molesting took place in ISKCON, Sridhara just walked off and did nothing, he makes Frankenstein monsters, and then left the citizens to be attacked by his monsters. You are right. ys pd
pada1008

To PADA: Strange logic. We don't make our gurus. Srila Sridhar Maharaj didn't promote any body he just took one of the sides as many did at that time including Srila Prabhupada. Satyavrata108
 
PADA Ananata told Sridhara he wanted to get married and he DOES NOT want to be the ACHARYA, but Sridhara told him you HAVE to be the acharya. And after 1977 when Ramesvara, Tamal, Hansadutta and others failed, Sridhara said, so what THEY HAVE TO BE acharyas. So when Sridhara finds out you are a fallen rascal, drug addict and sex fiend, he says, you have to be the acharya. That is what he did in post 1977. And Tripurari was trying to get voted in by Kirtanananda, a homosexual child molester. ys pd pada1008

To PADA: You said Srila Sridhar's Guru (Saraswati Thakur) committed suicide. Had a 10-year child. What are you talking about? Are you insane? Satyavrata108

PADA @Satyavrata108 The guru Sridhara promoted in 1936 guru was called Ananta Vasudeva. I have also another tape on my list here on youtube about Sridhara and his 1936 guru who was named Ananta Vasudeva, who commited suicide. Yes, this was because Sridhara violated the orders of Srila Saraswati to make a GBC, and not to have bogus gurus. Please listen to the other tape and I give more details of Sridhara maharaja. But Ananta Vasudeva was his guru, because SM made him a guru in 1936. Thanks pd

To PADA: Well you must be QUITE the devotee if you think you can be the judge and jury of the Vaishnavas! ShaktipatSeer

PADA @ShaktipatSeer Dear Shaktipat, First of all one of the ten offenses is to say that acharyas have faults, and you are saying acharyas are full of faults that need to be overlooked. No, the kanistha devotees are full of faults, not the acharyas. So you do not even know about the ten offenses? Yes, easy to be judge jury, since even a five year old child knows that people like Jesus (acharyas) are not full of mundane desires. You have to come to the level of a five year old first of all. ys pd pada1008
 
To PADA: "It is a qualification of a Vaiṣṇava that he is adoṣa-darśī: he never sees others' faults. Of course, every human being has both good qualities and faults. Therefore it is said, saj-janā guṇam icchanti doṣam icchanti pāmarāḥ: everyone has a combination of faults and glories. But a Vaiṣṇava, a sober man, accepts only a man's glories and not his faults, for flies seek sores whereas honeybees seek honey." - Srila Prabhupada Ādi 8.62 purport YOU ARE A FLY SUCKING ON WOUNDS FOR NURISHMENT  ShaktipatSeer

PADA @ShaktipatSeer Yes every NEOPHYTE has a combination of faults and good qualities (mixed devotional service), but Tripurari and his clan have said that acharyas (pure devotees aka people like Jesus) are mixed. Tripurari and you have never read the shastra, gurusuh narah matih narakah sah, anyone who says acharyas are faulty is a resident of narakah. Every human has faults, so you are saying gurus are ordinary humans, gurusuh narah (ordinary human), that means you violated shastra. ys pd
pada1008

To @pada1008 I only listened to a minute or so of your blasphemous garbage, where you insulted Tripurari when he was not a Guru but was merely a servant of Prabhupada, your fault finding of him at that stage where he is not perfect indeed is Vaishnava Aparadha. I never said that today he has fault, although your attempt to root out fault and find it with EVERYBODY I have still pointed out.
ShaktipatSeer

PADA @ShaktipatSeer But Tripurari sells books saying that acharyas (people like Jesus) are falling down with money, women and followers. In sum TS says that people like Jesus are debauchees. He also says anyone who worships Jesus and not his homosexual guru party is "a bogus ritvik," so he is attacking Jesus all day long. As for your pal Kailash, he says there is a living guru, except, when we asked to name the living guru, he could not give any name. You guys forgot who your guru is? thanks pd
pada1008

To PADA: Who the f*** are you to call Shridhar Maharaj "foolish" ?!?! Are you serious?!?! What were you hovering over them 24/7 like some kind of nazi snitch inspecting every move they made and every word they said?!? These people devoted their whole existence to Krishna Consciousness and spreading it, PRABHUPADA SAID he wanted his disciples to become Gurus, what the *** is your problem you snake? ShaktipatSeer

PADA @ShaktipatSeer Srila Prabhupada called SM foolish, SP said my foolish God brothers made Ananta Vasudeva into a guru in 1936. And Sridhara Maharaja is the leader of that group, so I am citing the pure devotee, and yes, he is serious. SP says this idea of SM, making deviants into acharyas, destroyed the preaching and ruined the Gaudiya Matha. So who am I to cite the pure devotee, I dunno, who are you to challenge the pure devotee, SP said SM is the founder of the severe offenders Bagh Bazaar. pada1008

To @pada1008 How are you so conclusive? Prabhupada has also said - "I can refer you to one who is most highly competent of my godbrothers. This is B. R. Sridhara Maharaja, whom I consider to be even my siksa-guru, so what to speak of the benefit that you can have from his association.", are you doubting what Prabhupada has said here regarding Shirdhara Maharaj? ShaktipatSeer

PADA @ShaktipatSeer OK he said that, and he also said amongst my God brothers NO ONE is qualfied to be acharya, especially Sridhara Maharaja who made a deviant into a guru. He also said that Sridhara Maharaja ruined the Gaudiya Matha. You have to look at my other videos, I have one about Sridhara maharaja there. You also failed to tell me who is the living guru of Kailash and "the real explanation" folks? They have no guru at all, they never give the name. Why not tell me who is their living guru? pada1008

To PADA: There is so much envy and judgment in your disgusting videos, these are NOT traits of the Vaishnavas, Prabhupada has said himself that "flies are attracted to wounds, and bees attracted to honey". Tripurari Swami left ISKCON because of the nonsense and went his own way, PRABHUPADA himself advised his disciples to go to Shridhara Maharaj for philosophical consultation and Tripurari followed the advice of his Guru. What poison in your mind has caused you to focus on all this bull***? ShaktipatSeer 

PADA to @ShaktipatSeer And so what happened when Sridhara Maharaja supported the bogus GBC gurus, thousands of children were molested. Tripurari never left ISKCON, the GBC says gurus fall down because Sridhara taught them to say that. Read SM and Tripurari's book "Sri Guru and His Grace," it says gurus go mad after money, women and followers, the GBC got these ideas from Sridhara maharaja. Tripurari is syaing that gurus fall down, but even a five year old knows that messiahs do not fall down. pada1008

To @pada1008 I have that book Sri Guru & His Grace on my computer could you please quote the exact verse please? Oh great meiser of the vaishnavas. ShaktipatSeer

PADA to @ShaktipatSeer The book says the Pandavas were falling down and everyone was surprised, no they were going back to God, the books says acharyas "go mad" after money, women and followers, because Sridhrara thinks pure devotees are debauchees. Sridhara says gurus fall down, left right and center, so he said we need to keep Jayatirtha, Hansadutta, Tamal, Ramesvara, he said we need to keep them in the post of guru, even after he was told they were failing. He thinks acharyas fail. ys pd
pada1008

To @pada1008 "It is a great misfortune if a Vaisnava guru strays from the line. It is rare, but occasionally it may be found. Generally the symptoms of deviation fall into three different classes: kanaka, kamini, and pratistha: money, women, and reputation." is this what you are talking about? He never says that gurus go mad, he says that very rarely it is possible for someone who has attained that level of Guru, that is to say one who repeats the words of Krishna, to come under the material
ShaktipatSeer

PADA: None of the vaishnava gurus has ever strayed from the line, moreover it is a severe offense to say that acharyas are straying -- gurusuh narah matih, narakah sah, anyone who says gurus fail like an ordinary man is a resident of narakah. The CC says to consider the guru as ordinany is the mad elephant offense, and that is the first line out of your book, gurus are ordinary men. Sorry, your book says that gurus go mad, (p.78) In a particular circle he is a monarch, and monarchy can bring MADNESS!
pada1008

to @pada1008 You are putting too high of a meaning to the word "Guru"... there is a difference between "Gurus" and Mahabhagavatas like Srila Prabhupada. ShaktipatSeer

PADA: The people Sridhara supported as gurus use titles like "Gurupada" (even Madhvacarya falls at his feet), Acharyapada (even Srila Prabhupada falls at his feet), Tirthapada (oop Tripurari took over Jayatirtha's LSD cult farm at Philo, apparently LSD is our tirtha), Krishnapada, yep even Krishna falls at their feet, and of course Vishnupada and so on, so Sridhara supports all of these people using all of these titles which are only used by mahabhagavatas, so he links deviants and acharya. Gurupada?
pada1008 

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  1. pada your so so wrong may the lord have mercy on you please stop these lies now

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