Sorry, we just are not going to be happy campers
in Durga's prison house. But we can be happy
when we are with Krishna. There is no other option.
Bhargava das has had some kind of health crisis. He was unconscious and they took him away in an ambulance. He was always sorta friendly with me, but he could not help me protest the bad guys. I wish him well. Pavaka dasi is also in the hospital, not sure what her update is.
Los Angeles is on fire.
Not looking good. And the people there are having to breathe a lot of smoke. A governing mismanagement issue for sure. They all knew it was all dried out; they all knew the wind was coming; they all knew they had many fires there before; they all knew the water system was low; they all knew the fire fighting funds were cut back; so where was the preparation? It looks like the government dropped the ball here, big time.
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PADA:
I think we just need to summarize the whole pot-1977 ISKCON situation:
1. Srila Prabhupada complained he was being poisoned, and this complaint was hidden -- and still is hidden -- from a lot of devotees.
2. The leaders responsible for that horrific crime then self-anointed themselves as the "eternal successors to Krishna and Srila Prabhupada." And these leaders could be identified as those among the "poison whisperers" -- found on the poison tape itself -- for example: -- Tamal's voice; Jayapataka's -- "poison isvarya rasa"; Jayadvaita -- "Jay, God dammit Jay"; "The poison is going down"; Bhavananda's giggles -- Etc. In fact Nanda Kumar dasa said the leaders were all giggling, joking and laughing outside Prabhupada's room in 1977 -- and Nanda Kumar knew they were up to no good. He said, I either need to kill them, or leave, so I left. OK, that was not a good move either, he left his guru in the hands of these laughing hyenas.
3: After that -- many ISKCON seniors and leaders -- including most of the UK yatra where I was -- and assorted people like Rupanuga, Mukunda swami, Ravindra swarupa, even Brahmananda and many others -- went along with the poison gang of self appointed / self anointed acharyas and their "appointment as gurus" -- for example Bhagavan, Hansadutta, Satsvarupa, Rupanuga et al. -- saying they were "right there" when the poison gang was: ordered, anointed, appointed, commanded, or somehow or other authorized as gurus, or whatever term the GBC and people like Rupanuga are using at different times. Lets just say -- a lot of people went along with the self anointed poison guru gangsters by promoting the cabal members as gurus and acharyas, OK like Rupanuga and many others.
4: Later on, so many scandals surfaced among these self anointed gangster / poisoner messiahs they had to have a "guru reform" in 1986 -- where they voted in another wave of gurus -- i.e. persons who would cooperate with the original wave of self anointed poisoner guru gangsters. The reformers also excommunicated Sulochana, because he had discovered the "May 28th guru appointment tape" was a scam and a splice job, and did not appoint ANY gurus in ANY case. He thus had to be terminated for exposing the cabal's guru appointment scam, and he was. Sulochana called the guru appointment "The Big Lie" and he said Satsvarupa is "the Joeseph Goebbels writer of ISKCON." Of course our Joeseph Goebbels has had a lot of supporters in the ISKCON institution, who agreed with his fascist idea of making absolutist rulers out of deviants and debauchees. Satsvarupa said me and Sulochana are poison pens, in order to make us targets for assassination.
5: Not too long after 1978 -- the poisoner's gangster messiah's crew proved they had a tendency to deviate if not fall down -- as these same group of leaders did all through the 1970s. And in sum -- as Jayadvaita says -- various GBC guru crew members have been falling into "illicit sex with men, women and possibly children." OK exactly what is not to be done by Krishna's guru successors, proving -- they are not, were not, could not have EVER been Krishna's successors. Never mind key members of that party are prime suspects in the poisoning of guru crime. Never mind the average karmi mundane citizen does not engage in illicit sex with men, women and children. Did I forget to mention Srila Prabhupada already said they are not fit for sannyasa in January 1977, so there is no way they would be fit to be God's messiahs from heaven in 1978?
6: Another well known fact: worship of the demigods takes us to their planet, worship of the asuras takes us to their planet -- in sum: "we become what we worship." Therefore worshiping: -- sexual deviants, homosexuals, pedophiles, predators, poisoners, criminals, porno swamis, machine gun swamis, drunks, drug addicts, oral sex with boys in the motorhome swamis, Timothy Leary and Andy Warhol disciples -- and so on -- as "God's successors," produced a magnet to attract MANY MORE of these same types of deviant folks to ISKCON, and cover up for them when they are exposed in crimes -- including child abuse. As happened. And thus a sort of haven for such criminal activities increased exponentially. And thereby -- a giant wave of these criminal and perverted activities was spawned all over ISKCON. In short, ISKCON became exactly what it was worshiping, a society of greedy self promoters, poisoners, lusty dogs, criminals, homos, pedos and guru murderers. The Berkeley police told me the ISKCON temple is "a criminal operation posing as a religion and a magnet for criminals" in 1980.
7. We also said -- in 1978 -- that offering food [bhogha] to these types of deviants will contaminate the offerings, and produce ill effects, which might explain the subsequent explosion of cancer and other fatal ailments all over the Hare Krishna community. And people are still offering food to members of the criminal, poisoners and / or molester messiahs party -- even today. We also said these neophytes cannot absorb sins, which might explain why a number of them fell down, got sick, and died prematurely. Of course people like Bhakta das still think offering food to these people who bury pedophiles in samadhis is acceptable, but all it is doing is -- making people accept the concept that pedophiles belong in samadhis. And GBC and / or Bhakta dasa says Gopal Krishna has been doing a great job, helping bury homosexual pedophiles and porno swamis in samadhis. Worshiping oral sex with boys as samadhi messiahs -- will produce more of that result -- since a society becomes what it worships. Wasn't that the whole plan?
8: Later on we got the so-called poison tape, in 1997. Which begs the question, why was this tape hidden? And why was -- the appointment tape, the last will, the Direction of Management, the 1977 conversations, the letters and other documents -- also hidden from the mass of devotees? And why did a guru tell Sulochana he would be "dead meat on a hook" if he published the letters? And how did he become dead -- shortly thereafter? And why did some people warn me if I release the poison tape "you will be dead in 24 hours"? What kind of society produces these types of murderous fanatics? I forgot, same society that worships the killers of pure devotees.
9: People such as the GBC and Bhakta dasa ilk claim that people could freely choose the guru they wanted in ISKCON. Umm, nope, people who rejected Hansadutta as their guru here were sometimes beaten to a pulp -- and had their bones broken -- and maybe also had their car windows smashed out and tires slashed, which happened to some dissenters here. And many other dissenters all over ISKCON got similar treatment. Worse, the 5 years old children were being told they got abused because they made "the wrong choice of guru," but they had no say in their choice. One ex-child victim told me we had a nice "guru choice" option: die by poison, firing squad or the electric chair. Those were our only "guru" options. Fine choices here! Oddly, some people still think these 5 years olds "got their karma for choosing the wrong guru."
Yep, you can choose a crook / child molester / pedophile / poisoner guru -- or the "successors to the first wave of criminal gurus" who are "2/3 show of hands voted in" by these poison sabha members. And people like Rupanuga were big members of the 1986 "50 man committee of guru reform" movement, where they established that Krishna's guru successors are often deviating drug fueled debauchees who need to be sent to reform school -- and sometimes their messiahs are having oral sex with taxi drivers -- among an extensive encyclopedia of other of their messiah's deviations. And the SAME EXACT people who re-certified oral sex with taxi drivers as ISKCON's Vishnupada messiah -- were also voted in and certified as co-messiahs along with their oral sex with taxi drivers-pada messiah. This was their idea of a reform, to re-certify oral sex with taxi drivers as God's messiahs, and make us targets for assassination for objecting. And I too would have been assassinated, except the undercover cops took down the three goons the GBC folks sent to get me.
Sulochana said these guru reformers are the leaders of a "semen sucking sampradaya" and a "guru suck-session" and therefore it is no wonder so many children are being victims of their program. In other words, the reformers reformed nothing, and Hrdayananda said the guru disease has become an epidemic. Which it has. And did I forget to mention Sulochana was correct, Kirtanananda was having oral sex with young men, and notice the GBC never apologized to Sulochana for going against him and causing his death, and allowing oral sex with young men to continue on by discounting Sulochana. Kirtanananda's ex-maid said he was also trying to have sex with -- the cat. Fine messiahs GBC and Rupanuga produced here!
10: Then, we had to have Tamal's poisoner / molester messiahs program sued in Dallas in 1986 for child abuse. And later on sued again in 1997 -- for the same thing - child abuse. And the entire society was exposed all over the media for being sued for $400,000,000 -- for orchestrating mass child abuse. That means we dissenters were not able to protest the child abuse issue properly since 1979 -- because these gurus claimed we were making offenses to pure devotees etc. which nullified our complaints, and made making complaints dangerous if not deadly. This issue had to go to court because it was just too dangerous to take it to the leaders in person, a dissenter could get killed, and were killed.
11: We could go on here forever, but lets sum up by judging by the results.
(A) Thousands and thousands of sincere bhaktas were banned, exiled and shunned from ISKCON and they are never coming back, ever.
(B) Thousands of kids were abused and victimized, and they are never coming back either, ever. And many of them now hold a grudge against the Krishna religion.
(C) Thousands and thousands of spiritual and material lives have been destroyed and will never be repaired in this lifetime, ever.
(D) Many victims fell down, got sick, got into intoxicants, had health and financial problems, and a number died. Many got cancer which my nurse friend says is a HARE KRISHNA epidemic.
(E) A number of victims were beaten up, like the first UK devotee Kulashekara -- who was beaten so badly by Bhakti Tirtha's goons -- he was in the hospital for months. And he told me that he suffered pain for the rest of his whole life -- he never fully recovered from those injuries. And he died prematurely, and was not getting much proper health care in the end. As Sulochana said, these [Bhakti Tirtha] GBC goonda type people are less advanced than dogs, pigs and snakes. A dog will not harm a Vaishnava, but these ISKCON guru followers will -- beat and kill a Vaishnava -- because they are less advanced than snakes and animals.
Sulochana said this is the result of association with poison snakes posing as gurus, they create more of same. Of course if asuras promote the killers of guru, they will want to kill off the family members and children of the guru as well, as we find asuras kill off whole families as well as the main target. The LA police told me, stay away from Watseka, these people WANT TO KILL YOU. Why do they want to kill us? Because we are not promoting homosexual pedophiles as God's successors.
(F) Millions and billions of ordinary mundane people have been reading all sorts of horrific and nasty news media exposes of the activities of these gurus, which will turn them off from ever being a Krishna devotee. Ever. This has harmed the spiritual lives of UNLIMITED numbers of people -- for this life and many of their future lives. Blocking people from coming to Krishna is VERY SINFUL, if not unforgivable. Making a mockery zoo of Lord Chaitanya's movement will make Lord Chaitanya very angry.
(G) Hence in 1988 Lokanath swami complained the temples are empty ghost towns, skeleton crew. Where did all the devotees go? They were purged out.
(H) Rampant crimes were going on in many sectors because some GBC leaders were not only -- not fixing things -- they were often encouraging / defending the criminals and propping up the criminal's crime activities. And some of the criminals being protected are child abusers. And a whole forum has been made to discuss this criminal behavior. Did I forget to mention the GBC sued the leaders of the child welfare forum, to try to silence anyone who defends children.
(I) Jayapataka people wrote to complain I helped lawsuits that cost ISKCON over $100,000,000. More than the TOVP building. That means the GBC's main priority has been buying new Armani shoes for lawyers, while begging for money for shoes for the kids.
(J) I personally know a number of devotees who died from cancer, alcohol poison, drugs, and many other problems -- because they were depressed by the situation caused by these toxic guru leaders. Even a number of the gurus have suffered all sorts of troubles and ailments. The whole guru show has been a toxic mess for the members, the leaders, and the whole society. Hansadutta died a lonely alcoholic, he was drinking right up to the end. He not only destroyed countless lives of others, ruined the name of Krishna for millions of people all over California with all of his machine gun swami bad public media expose antics, he destroyed his own life. The only winner here is -- Satan.
(K) The argument that the GBC has had to make gurus to avoid a take over by Narayan Maharaja makes no sense. No one would have ever even heard of Narayan Maharaja without the GBC introducing him into ISKCON and promoting him as ISKCON's rasika guru, and now ISKCON has spawned its own competition of Gaudiya Matha off shoots.
(L) A number of the Gaudiya Matha / Narayan people smoke pot and are basically sahajiyas, thanks to being lead there by the GBC.
(M) Many ISKCON temples are being handed off to Hindu managers, some of whom are not even vegetarians. And meanwhile predators, homosexuals, pedophiles, criminals, poisoners and deviants are being buried in samadhi in the dham. Everyone connected to these dham aparadhas will have to suffer severe reactions.
(N) ISKCON India has spent $20,000,000 suing Bangalore, because Bangalore does not want to promote illicit sex messiahs.
(O) Many of Srila Prabhupada's books have been changed and the GBC is promoting rubbish writings of people like Satsvarupa "the more I chant the drier it gets" "I have to battle constantly with doubts that Krishna is a myth." Etc. And thanks to empowering these book changer fools as gurus, they have legal control over the BBT and are forcing changes to the books. If hardly any books are even being printed these days.
(P) The GBC says we do not want to be like the bogus Christians, but Srila Prabhupada promoted Jesus and said his worship is bona fide.
(Q) Conditioned souls cannot absorb sins, and the results of taking sins has been catastrophic for many GBC gurus, their followers, and the society.
(R) Not only children but many hundreds if not thousands of women have been mistreated badly, which has sparked an onslaught of angry women writing nasty things about the Krishna religion on their web sites.
(S) Many deities ended up in dire conditions, which Sulochana summed as "placing Krishna into a ghetto while the leaders live like millionaires."
(T) Srila Prabhupada has been made to look highly defective for "appointing" highly defecting people as God's successors.
(U) An accountant told me ISKCON would be worth billions today if it has gone on expanding as it was. And Srila Prabhupada said whoever makes my mission lose money will have to pay it back in a future life. Wow, these leaders are going to be working in Yama's coal mines for kalpas to pay all this back.
(V) No one is allowed to harm one hair on the head of a Vaishnava, and these gurus have Vaishnavas systematically banned, beaten, sued, molested and -- killed. And poisoned.
(W) Most of these gurus or leaders later on blooped out and stole money and maybe a woman on the way out the door. They never cared about ISKCON, only themselves. They made a house no one could live in, even themselves. Most of the leaders left, and many who remain have resigned from being a GBC, because they do not want responsibility for the mess they made. They started the house on fire, then exited with stolen property to set themselves up -- while the innocents were left inside the burning house to suffer.
(X) The idea now is that conditioned souls can be diksha gurus and absorb sins like Jesus. And Jayadvaita said he has taken too much karma, so he made Kadamba his sin absorbing replacement, who died of cancer. They are even killing each other -- never mind killing us.
(Y) Krishna says He cannot tolerate offenses to His devotees, and the offenders have to apologize, but many of the offended are now dead, that means the offenders will carry the weight of these offenses to their next life.
(Z) Srila Prabhupada says false gurus are destined for the most obnoxious regions. And so is the society they manage, which explains all the problems in ISKCON. The leaders are going to the most obnoxious regions, and they took ISKCON along for the ride down there with them. It all started when they poisoned their guru, and the poison spread to every nook and cranny of the operation. Them -- and all their influence -- has to be purged out, just like Bhishma said all these arrows are draining the blood made from the food I took from Duryodhana, so this is purification. ISKCON needs a similar purification.
Finally, why does Krishna allow all this? When motivated people want to be gurus, and they poison their guru, and then many other motivated for position people support the motivated usurper / poisoner gurus, then Krishna fulfils all their desires collectively, to make an illicit sex with men, women and children guru program, that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills vaishnavas. And worships pedos and guru poisoners as messiahs. They got what they desired. In short, they have had the wrong desires. That needs to be corrected, or there will be no ISKCON left over to argue about.
ys pd
Lots of people are now going to be homeless, when they already had a giant homeless crisis. The problems are going to persist for a long time because everyone's life is now topsy turvy, many businesses are burned up, and there will be no jobs for a lot of people. Many communications and electrical transmission systems are gone, many vehicles are gone, many people won't be able to get around, many food stores have burnt down etc. A lot of trouble for a lot of people.
There will be lots of people crowded into shelters -- with nowhere to go, and all the rest. A big mess. Bad Karma for a big sinful city -- you think? But the Christians who are gloating that sin city is burning, are not making people want to worship their God. We should not be gloating that people are suffering, at the same time, the material energy will do its thing and we have to tolerate.
I feel very bad for all the animals -- dogs, cats, cows and horses were running away, and all that. They have a limited amount of escape ability. Of course having the karma of being Jayapataka's Western head quarters location is not good karma right out of the gate.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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PADA:
I think we just need to summarize the whole pot-1977 ISKCON situation:
1. Srila Prabhupada complained he was being poisoned, and this complaint was hidden -- and still is hidden -- from a lot of devotees.
2. The leaders responsible for that horrific crime then self-anointed themselves as the "eternal successors to Krishna and Srila Prabhupada." And these leaders could be identified as those among the "poison whisperers" -- found on the poison tape itself -- for example: -- Tamal's voice; Jayapataka's -- "poison isvarya rasa"; Jayadvaita -- "Jay, God dammit Jay"; "The poison is going down"; Bhavananda's giggles -- Etc. In fact Nanda Kumar dasa said the leaders were all giggling, joking and laughing outside Prabhupada's room in 1977 -- and Nanda Kumar knew they were up to no good. He said, I either need to kill them, or leave, so I left. OK, that was not a good move either, he left his guru in the hands of these laughing hyenas.
3: After that -- many ISKCON seniors and leaders -- including most of the UK yatra where I was -- and assorted people like Rupanuga, Mukunda swami, Ravindra swarupa, even Brahmananda and many others -- went along with the poison gang of self appointed / self anointed acharyas and their "appointment as gurus" -- for example Bhagavan, Hansadutta, Satsvarupa, Rupanuga et al. -- saying they were "right there" when the poison gang was: ordered, anointed, appointed, commanded, or somehow or other authorized as gurus, or whatever term the GBC and people like Rupanuga are using at different times. Lets just say -- a lot of people went along with the self anointed poison guru gangsters by promoting the cabal members as gurus and acharyas, OK like Rupanuga and many others.
4: Later on, so many scandals surfaced among these self anointed gangster / poisoner messiahs they had to have a "guru reform" in 1986 -- where they voted in another wave of gurus -- i.e. persons who would cooperate with the original wave of self anointed poisoner guru gangsters. The reformers also excommunicated Sulochana, because he had discovered the "May 28th guru appointment tape" was a scam and a splice job, and did not appoint ANY gurus in ANY case. He thus had to be terminated for exposing the cabal's guru appointment scam, and he was. Sulochana called the guru appointment "The Big Lie" and he said Satsvarupa is "the Joeseph Goebbels writer of ISKCON." Of course our Joeseph Goebbels has had a lot of supporters in the ISKCON institution, who agreed with his fascist idea of making absolutist rulers out of deviants and debauchees. Satsvarupa said me and Sulochana are poison pens, in order to make us targets for assassination.
5: Not too long after 1978 -- the poisoner's gangster messiah's crew proved they had a tendency to deviate if not fall down -- as these same group of leaders did all through the 1970s. And in sum -- as Jayadvaita says -- various GBC guru crew members have been falling into "illicit sex with men, women and possibly children." OK exactly what is not to be done by Krishna's guru successors, proving -- they are not, were not, could not have EVER been Krishna's successors. Never mind key members of that party are prime suspects in the poisoning of guru crime. Never mind the average karmi mundane citizen does not engage in illicit sex with men, women and children. Did I forget to mention Srila Prabhupada already said they are not fit for sannyasa in January 1977, so there is no way they would be fit to be God's messiahs from heaven in 1978?
6: Another well known fact: worship of the demigods takes us to their planet, worship of the asuras takes us to their planet -- in sum: "we become what we worship." Therefore worshiping: -- sexual deviants, homosexuals, pedophiles, predators, poisoners, criminals, porno swamis, machine gun swamis, drunks, drug addicts, oral sex with boys in the motorhome swamis, Timothy Leary and Andy Warhol disciples -- and so on -- as "God's successors," produced a magnet to attract MANY MORE of these same types of deviant folks to ISKCON, and cover up for them when they are exposed in crimes -- including child abuse. As happened. And thus a sort of haven for such criminal activities increased exponentially. And thereby -- a giant wave of these criminal and perverted activities was spawned all over ISKCON. In short, ISKCON became exactly what it was worshiping, a society of greedy self promoters, poisoners, lusty dogs, criminals, homos, pedos and guru murderers. The Berkeley police told me the ISKCON temple is "a criminal operation posing as a religion and a magnet for criminals" in 1980.
7. We also said -- in 1978 -- that offering food [bhogha] to these types of deviants will contaminate the offerings, and produce ill effects, which might explain the subsequent explosion of cancer and other fatal ailments all over the Hare Krishna community. And people are still offering food to members of the criminal, poisoners and / or molester messiahs party -- even today. We also said these neophytes cannot absorb sins, which might explain why a number of them fell down, got sick, and died prematurely. Of course people like Bhakta das still think offering food to these people who bury pedophiles in samadhis is acceptable, but all it is doing is -- making people accept the concept that pedophiles belong in samadhis. And GBC and / or Bhakta dasa says Gopal Krishna has been doing a great job, helping bury homosexual pedophiles and porno swamis in samadhis. Worshiping oral sex with boys as samadhi messiahs -- will produce more of that result -- since a society becomes what it worships. Wasn't that the whole plan?
8: Later on we got the so-called poison tape, in 1997. Which begs the question, why was this tape hidden? And why was -- the appointment tape, the last will, the Direction of Management, the 1977 conversations, the letters and other documents -- also hidden from the mass of devotees? And why did a guru tell Sulochana he would be "dead meat on a hook" if he published the letters? And how did he become dead -- shortly thereafter? And why did some people warn me if I release the poison tape "you will be dead in 24 hours"? What kind of society produces these types of murderous fanatics? I forgot, same society that worships the killers of pure devotees.
9: People such as the GBC and Bhakta dasa ilk claim that people could freely choose the guru they wanted in ISKCON. Umm, nope, people who rejected Hansadutta as their guru here were sometimes beaten to a pulp -- and had their bones broken -- and maybe also had their car windows smashed out and tires slashed, which happened to some dissenters here. And many other dissenters all over ISKCON got similar treatment. Worse, the 5 years old children were being told they got abused because they made "the wrong choice of guru," but they had no say in their choice. One ex-child victim told me we had a nice "guru choice" option: die by poison, firing squad or the electric chair. Those were our only "guru" options. Fine choices here! Oddly, some people still think these 5 years olds "got their karma for choosing the wrong guru."
Yep, you can choose a crook / child molester / pedophile / poisoner guru -- or the "successors to the first wave of criminal gurus" who are "2/3 show of hands voted in" by these poison sabha members. And people like Rupanuga were big members of the 1986 "50 man committee of guru reform" movement, where they established that Krishna's guru successors are often deviating drug fueled debauchees who need to be sent to reform school -- and sometimes their messiahs are having oral sex with taxi drivers -- among an extensive encyclopedia of other of their messiah's deviations. And the SAME EXACT people who re-certified oral sex with taxi drivers as ISKCON's Vishnupada messiah -- were also voted in and certified as co-messiahs along with their oral sex with taxi drivers-pada messiah. This was their idea of a reform, to re-certify oral sex with taxi drivers as God's messiahs, and make us targets for assassination for objecting. And I too would have been assassinated, except the undercover cops took down the three goons the GBC folks sent to get me.
Sulochana said these guru reformers are the leaders of a "semen sucking sampradaya" and a "guru suck-session" and therefore it is no wonder so many children are being victims of their program. In other words, the reformers reformed nothing, and Hrdayananda said the guru disease has become an epidemic. Which it has. And did I forget to mention Sulochana was correct, Kirtanananda was having oral sex with young men, and notice the GBC never apologized to Sulochana for going against him and causing his death, and allowing oral sex with young men to continue on by discounting Sulochana. Kirtanananda's ex-maid said he was also trying to have sex with -- the cat. Fine messiahs GBC and Rupanuga produced here!
10: Then, we had to have Tamal's poisoner / molester messiahs program sued in Dallas in 1986 for child abuse. And later on sued again in 1997 -- for the same thing - child abuse. And the entire society was exposed all over the media for being sued for $400,000,000 -- for orchestrating mass child abuse. That means we dissenters were not able to protest the child abuse issue properly since 1979 -- because these gurus claimed we were making offenses to pure devotees etc. which nullified our complaints, and made making complaints dangerous if not deadly. This issue had to go to court because it was just too dangerous to take it to the leaders in person, a dissenter could get killed, and were killed.
11: We could go on here forever, but lets sum up by judging by the results.
(A) Thousands and thousands of sincere bhaktas were banned, exiled and shunned from ISKCON and they are never coming back, ever.
(B) Thousands of kids were abused and victimized, and they are never coming back either, ever. And many of them now hold a grudge against the Krishna religion.
(C) Thousands and thousands of spiritual and material lives have been destroyed and will never be repaired in this lifetime, ever.
(D) Many victims fell down, got sick, got into intoxicants, had health and financial problems, and a number died. Many got cancer which my nurse friend says is a HARE KRISHNA epidemic.
(E) A number of victims were beaten up, like the first UK devotee Kulashekara -- who was beaten so badly by Bhakti Tirtha's goons -- he was in the hospital for months. And he told me that he suffered pain for the rest of his whole life -- he never fully recovered from those injuries. And he died prematurely, and was not getting much proper health care in the end. As Sulochana said, these [Bhakti Tirtha] GBC goonda type people are less advanced than dogs, pigs and snakes. A dog will not harm a Vaishnava, but these ISKCON guru followers will -- beat and kill a Vaishnava -- because they are less advanced than snakes and animals.
Sulochana said this is the result of association with poison snakes posing as gurus, they create more of same. Of course if asuras promote the killers of guru, they will want to kill off the family members and children of the guru as well, as we find asuras kill off whole families as well as the main target. The LA police told me, stay away from Watseka, these people WANT TO KILL YOU. Why do they want to kill us? Because we are not promoting homosexual pedophiles as God's successors.
(F) Millions and billions of ordinary mundane people have been reading all sorts of horrific and nasty news media exposes of the activities of these gurus, which will turn them off from ever being a Krishna devotee. Ever. This has harmed the spiritual lives of UNLIMITED numbers of people -- for this life and many of their future lives. Blocking people from coming to Krishna is VERY SINFUL, if not unforgivable. Making a mockery zoo of Lord Chaitanya's movement will make Lord Chaitanya very angry.
(G) Hence in 1988 Lokanath swami complained the temples are empty ghost towns, skeleton crew. Where did all the devotees go? They were purged out.
(H) Rampant crimes were going on in many sectors because some GBC leaders were not only -- not fixing things -- they were often encouraging / defending the criminals and propping up the criminal's crime activities. And some of the criminals being protected are child abusers. And a whole forum has been made to discuss this criminal behavior. Did I forget to mention the GBC sued the leaders of the child welfare forum, to try to silence anyone who defends children.
(I) Jayapataka people wrote to complain I helped lawsuits that cost ISKCON over $100,000,000. More than the TOVP building. That means the GBC's main priority has been buying new Armani shoes for lawyers, while begging for money for shoes for the kids.
(J) I personally know a number of devotees who died from cancer, alcohol poison, drugs, and many other problems -- because they were depressed by the situation caused by these toxic guru leaders. Even a number of the gurus have suffered all sorts of troubles and ailments. The whole guru show has been a toxic mess for the members, the leaders, and the whole society. Hansadutta died a lonely alcoholic, he was drinking right up to the end. He not only destroyed countless lives of others, ruined the name of Krishna for millions of people all over California with all of his machine gun swami bad public media expose antics, he destroyed his own life. The only winner here is -- Satan.
(K) The argument that the GBC has had to make gurus to avoid a take over by Narayan Maharaja makes no sense. No one would have ever even heard of Narayan Maharaja without the GBC introducing him into ISKCON and promoting him as ISKCON's rasika guru, and now ISKCON has spawned its own competition of Gaudiya Matha off shoots.
(L) A number of the Gaudiya Matha / Narayan people smoke pot and are basically sahajiyas, thanks to being lead there by the GBC.
(M) Many ISKCON temples are being handed off to Hindu managers, some of whom are not even vegetarians. And meanwhile predators, homosexuals, pedophiles, criminals, poisoners and deviants are being buried in samadhi in the dham. Everyone connected to these dham aparadhas will have to suffer severe reactions.
(N) ISKCON India has spent $20,000,000 suing Bangalore, because Bangalore does not want to promote illicit sex messiahs.
(O) Many of Srila Prabhupada's books have been changed and the GBC is promoting rubbish writings of people like Satsvarupa "the more I chant the drier it gets" "I have to battle constantly with doubts that Krishna is a myth." Etc. And thanks to empowering these book changer fools as gurus, they have legal control over the BBT and are forcing changes to the books. If hardly any books are even being printed these days.
(P) The GBC says we do not want to be like the bogus Christians, but Srila Prabhupada promoted Jesus and said his worship is bona fide.
(Q) Conditioned souls cannot absorb sins, and the results of taking sins has been catastrophic for many GBC gurus, their followers, and the society.
(R) Not only children but many hundreds if not thousands of women have been mistreated badly, which has sparked an onslaught of angry women writing nasty things about the Krishna religion on their web sites.
(S) Many deities ended up in dire conditions, which Sulochana summed as "placing Krishna into a ghetto while the leaders live like millionaires."
(T) Srila Prabhupada has been made to look highly defective for "appointing" highly defecting people as God's successors.
(U) An accountant told me ISKCON would be worth billions today if it has gone on expanding as it was. And Srila Prabhupada said whoever makes my mission lose money will have to pay it back in a future life. Wow, these leaders are going to be working in Yama's coal mines for kalpas to pay all this back.
(V) No one is allowed to harm one hair on the head of a Vaishnava, and these gurus have Vaishnavas systematically banned, beaten, sued, molested and -- killed. And poisoned.
(W) Most of these gurus or leaders later on blooped out and stole money and maybe a woman on the way out the door. They never cared about ISKCON, only themselves. They made a house no one could live in, even themselves. Most of the leaders left, and many who remain have resigned from being a GBC, because they do not want responsibility for the mess they made. They started the house on fire, then exited with stolen property to set themselves up -- while the innocents were left inside the burning house to suffer.
(X) The idea now is that conditioned souls can be diksha gurus and absorb sins like Jesus. And Jayadvaita said he has taken too much karma, so he made Kadamba his sin absorbing replacement, who died of cancer. They are even killing each other -- never mind killing us.
(Y) Krishna says He cannot tolerate offenses to His devotees, and the offenders have to apologize, but many of the offended are now dead, that means the offenders will carry the weight of these offenses to their next life.
(Z) Srila Prabhupada says false gurus are destined for the most obnoxious regions. And so is the society they manage, which explains all the problems in ISKCON. The leaders are going to the most obnoxious regions, and they took ISKCON along for the ride down there with them. It all started when they poisoned their guru, and the poison spread to every nook and cranny of the operation. Them -- and all their influence -- has to be purged out, just like Bhishma said all these arrows are draining the blood made from the food I took from Duryodhana, so this is purification. ISKCON needs a similar purification.
Finally, why does Krishna allow all this? When motivated people want to be gurus, and they poison their guru, and then many other motivated for position people support the motivated usurper / poisoner gurus, then Krishna fulfils all their desires collectively, to make an illicit sex with men, women and children guru program, that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills vaishnavas. And worships pedos and guru poisoners as messiahs. They got what they desired. In short, they have had the wrong desires. That needs to be corrected, or there will be no ISKCON left over to argue about.
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