Friday, September 24, 2021

Bhagavat Maharaja And "Vaishnava Etiquette"


Bhagavat Maharaja.

PADA is in Texas helping Tamal get sued for $400,000,000
while Narayan Maharaja is in Texas yelling at our associates
for attacking Tamal.
Why do these people always support pedophile messiah's programs?
And then NM says -- the abuse victims are just "getting karma."
Umm, who authorized them to give children molesting karma? 
Let us not forget, Tamal is the person who bought NM into ISKCON.

And because PADA does not support telling children to worship
illicit sex with men, women and children guru programs --
PADA "does not understand Vaishnava etiquette"?
 

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PADA: A follower of Bhagavat Maharaja (Narayan Maharaja groupie) is trying to defend these Gaudiya Matha folks who were challenging us for using the title of "Prabhupada."

When we were in India in 1971 a number of the Mayapur Gaudiya Math God brothers -- assisted by Narayan Maharaja -- were infuriated that Srila Prabhupada was being called "Prabhupada." Their spokesman Madhava Maharaja was yelling and shouting at Prabhupada in a meeting, and we thought we were going to get into a big brawl at the time with their group. It came close to coming to blows. 

After they left, Srila Prabhupada said, post a guard at my door, my God brothers might try to harm me, or kill me. They were calling him "swami maharaja" instead of Prabhupada, and they kept doing that the whole time, as does Narayan Maharaja. 

So it was the same thing, they made false gurus, some of them had illicit sex problems, and they were creating the same types of problems we have now with Lokanath swami. And the follower of Bhagavat Maharaja says I do not understand Vaishnava etiquette? 

The etiquette is that none of these people has any authority to tell us what name we followers apply to our guru. Nor do they have any authority to tell an acharya to either use -- or not use -- a title. They have no qualifications to challenge what the acharya is doing, or what his followers are doing. 

Meanwhile they gave "acharya" titles to illicit sex deviants, causing the same problems we have now with Lokanath. They do not allow proper titles to be given where it is due, and they give high titles to people who do not deserve these titles, exactly the same as the Lokanath problem. 

They call our guru "swami maharaja," and call illicit sex deviants "acharyas," that is not proper etiquette whatever. There is no etiquette where persons can challenge the activity of, or titles used by, the acharya. That is never done by bona fide devotees. 

The bona fide devotees respect the authority of the acharya. Meanwhile the Gaudiya Matha made illicit sex gurus like Lokanath, all of this is well documented. The Gaudiya Matha folks missed the point ... not Srila Prahbupada, nor his followers. 

Where in shastra does it say the etiquette is -- we should yell at the acharya and challenge his titles? And we should give pedophile people like Lokanath high titles? I am not missing the point, that is the point. And that is what we are dealing with now, Lokanath does not deserve these titles. 

Of course Narayan Maharaja was Tamal's top bucket boy defender of their homosexual and pedophile messiah's program that has been banning, beating, molesting, suing and killing Vaishnavas. Then, after NM caused all this havoc he said we and the molested children "are getting karma." He is authorized to dish out karma to others? So Bhagavat Maharaja has become a big promoter of the NM program, i.e. a program that promotes Tamal's worship of illicit sex with men, women and children, and which bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas.

And NM's guru told him not to initiate anyone, but he did anyway. Then he got cancer and his followers said he was sick from taking their karma. Well yep, he was told not to take karma. Of course anyone who supports a pedophile guru program, and crams their pedophile guru worship program down the throats of little children, is going to get bad karma in any case.

Of course NM says that Madhava Maharaja is a bona fide acharya, because he yells, shouts and screams insults at pure devotees and makes them feel their life is threatened. As soon as NM finds some highly offensive people who love to attack pure devotees, he falls off his chair and licks their boots. 

And then Bhagavat Maharaja says, oh goody, we now get to worship the cheer leaders of these "swami maharaja" offenders, and we get Tamal's nice pedophile sex guru program for ISKCON too, sign me up! And then we wonder why ISKCON has problems? Why is Bhagavat Maharaja supporting the cheer leaders of the offenders and pedophile messiahs club? And then Bhagavat's followers write to me, I don't know Vaishnava etiquette -- because I do not support the offenders who attack and threaten pure devotees, or the founder fathers of pedophile acharyas programs like Tamal, and their hand maidens like NM?       

ys pd

4 comments:

  1. LD: Narayan Maharaja is the leader of Tamal's "gopis rasika club." We are getting bashed over the head by their club ... children are getting molested by their club ... devotees are getting killed by their club ... and they think this is wonderful ... gopis rasika leela.

    It is all "gopis rasika." This is really sahajiya. Srila Prabhupada says he is poisoned ... because of this club. I saw the photo you posted of Narayan hugging Kirtanananda. Cheaters of a feather. Narayan then says ... we got beat over the head from his rasika club ... because it is our karma? WTF?

    That is also sahajiya ... you were cheated because you want to be cheated. The children ... wanted to be cheated? WTF is wrong with these people. You wanted this ... and it is your karma ... not ours.

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  2. M Dasi: Makes me want to scream. Or vomit.

    Big self advertised saints ... like Narayan Maharaja ... support the bogus GBC gurus. Then naturally! All sorts of suffering ensues. For us! Includes molested and dead people. Oh too bad, it is your karma. I agree, what is wrong with these people?

    No remorse. No accountability. No sympathy. No feelings for the victims whatever. You are on your own ... especially if you are a victim. They are narcissistic psychopaths ... seems like the only possible explanation. YOU are the problem ... YOU have karma!

    We cause YOU to suffer and maybe have some lifetime PTSD, so what! Not my problem. Go suck a lemon! These people are merciless, heartless ... as they say ... steel framed hearts. No one can make advancement to Krishna with a steel framed heart.

    The psychopath often does not even understand he is causing pain to others ... because he has no feelings for others. Or worse ... he knows ... but enjoys to see others suffer. To simply wave us off as "getting our karma" is the most cruel thing a person can say to a victim ... but that is the first thing they always say.

    And! On top of all that ... they are angry Prabhupada has the title of Prabhupada ... so they call him swami maharaja. That is because they do not want to recognize him ... like they do not want to recognize their victims. These people act like they are victims ... oh people are picking on us! Classic narcissistic psychopath ... I am the victim ... and the real victim is the cause of the trouble. And this Bhagavat is now some sort of maharaja / swami / saint / guru himself? Lord have mercy!

    Another self advertised great saintly person ... who was swimming in Tamal's pedophile sewer. And he has that all knowing smirk ... but how many people really accept any of these bogus sham gurus these days? They are legends in their own minds ... not ours.

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  3. Bhagavat Das: We can understand from these pastimes that both Srila Prabhupada and Srila Gour Govinda Maharaja did not have a subtle materiel body which contains the false ego, the materiel mind and the materiel intelligence.

    [PADA: Yes, as soon as Bhagavat Das finds a person like Gaura Govinda maharaja, who is voted into an illicit sex with men, women and children -- and oral sex with taxi drivers in the dham -- guru parampara, he thinks that is pure. Yes SD Dasi he was a leader and he should have known about all the molesting. Why did he never take it to the police? Yep, that is the question. And why didn't Narayan Maharaja order all those people to go to the police once he found out? Yep. You got it. ys pd

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  4. SD Dasi: I don't understand this either. There has been all kinds of child abuse going on ... all over the place. There are "gurus" taking advantage of followers ... for sexual exploits. Some of these leaders use their post to have four wives and several outsider lovers.

    And then there has been the problem of taking ISKCON children's money and using it for themselves ... to buy nice new cars and private homes, while the children did not have food. The list of crimes against vulnerable devotees ... never ends ... this is just the sample. We should at least mention ... vulnerable old people are often living in very poor condition ... in many cases because there was never any concern for them either.

    And yet it seems almost no one ever calls the police for any crime ... against anyone ... anywhere ... at any time. It is a society that seems to have no moral, religious or ethical check and balance. And these are the same people who made this horrific situation. And now, these same people are going to be our maharajas, gurus and leaders?

    It seems like a society that depends on blind sheeps to jump off the cliff ... while their masters get paid some sort of bounty money for each sheeps that jumps off ... there is no moral compass on this ship. Narayana Maharaj should have known all about this all along because so many people were coming to him all the time with these complaints.

    They over and over defend the elite leaders ... and not the victims ... and so Narayan is still a big favorite among these "seniors" ... who are another version of the elite exploiters. They like Narayan Maharaja because he gives a free license for fools to be gurus ... whether GBC or his own party. And the result is so many suffering victims.

    I believe you are right. Even Narayan Maharaja got cancer from his own taking sins from all these sinful people. He dug his own grave ... and fell into it. Trouble is ... he took many ISKCON children into his grave with him ... he stole their lives by helping making molesting gurus. And now the old leaders of the exploiter guru elite cult are going to be ... our newly re-designed ... new leaders now? When are they going to account for all the damage they made?

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