Tuesday, October 9, 2018

Rocana Wants "Mad Acharya's Disease" Spread Everywhere!


Everyone should be free to declare they are also acharyas 
(like Srila Prabhupada)?


Following the Most Recent Sampradaya Acarya

BY: ROCANA DASA

Oct 5, 2018 — CANADA (SUN) —

As we conclude our serial presentation of the paper "Guru-parampara: The List of 32" and its addendum summary of the biographies of our Sampradaya Acaryas, we would like to end with the following. Although we quite recently presented a reprise of the Constitution for ISKCON As It Is, we would like to once again present the following, from the Premable:

[PADA: Notice that Rocana never explains why he participated in the ISKCON "50 man committee of Guru Reform" where the GBC and their "reformer" partners said they could add more diksha guru members of the parampara by a "2/3 show of hands" GBC vote? Who authorized Rocana and / or the GBC to add more members to the list of 32 gurus? 

What happens if the 2/3 section think he is a bona fide acharya, and the other 1/3 think he is a rascal? How will this be resolved? And where is there any process ordered by Srila Prabhupada that the GBC shall "vote in" more acharyas? And if 2/3 think he is bona fide, and 1/3 does not, that itself shows that the whole process is mundane speculation, there is not even a universal consensus required to coronate more messiahs.]

"I have given you the process of disciplic succession... So in the parampara system, in that disciplic succession, you will find no change. The original word is there. That is the thing... If you want the real thing, then you have to take the old, the oldest. You cannot change anything." [19]

[PADA: Correct, most of the Prabhupadanugas consider that Rocana's "guru reform" process is bogus, for starters because if a person is a deviant who needs "guru reform," he was never a guru in the first place. And most people consider that none of these folks ever had the authority to "change everything" by adding (concocting) more members to the list of 32 gurus by a "2/3 show of hands voting for guru" system.] 

In the same way that we accept Srila Prabhupada's authorized books without change, Members of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness As It Is adopt and promote the mood and methods of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada for executing the mission of his spiritual society. Srila Prabhupada's mood, methods and standards shall be emulated and replicated to the greatest degree possible in all areas of practicing and preaching Krsna Consciousness, adjusted only as necessary to meet present circumstances and facilitate preaching.

[PADA: So the GBC and their reformer allies thought that the original 11 were authorized to be gurus, and they were all authorized combinedly to vote in more gurus. Yet Rocana and others openly admit that there was a lot of deviation going on among the original 11. How can the first wave of self-admitted deviating acharyas "vote in" another wave of acharyas? And in another writing Rocana also says the trouble is that the GBC is not enforcing the rules of administering their gurus, and there has to be better enforcement. The GBC is the overseer of the acharyas?]

It is not our business to re-create Srila Prabhupada's mission, which embodies the lila pastimes of the pure devotee. Our business is to manifest the Founder-Acarya's vision within our mission, which is built upon his own. 

[PADA: It is not our business to re-create the mission? This is quite confusing. And where was the idea promoted by Srila Prabhupada that us neophytes could be listed as diksha gurus in the parampara (by votes or by our own self-declaration)?]

The Society shall be based on the philosophical constructs, standards and practices instructed by His Divine Grace during his manifest lila, however he is no longer physically present to oversee the Society, thus the dynamics of his ISKCON lila cannot be re-created. His Divine Grace requested that his followers not appoint or elect a successor acarya in the Society, thus the Members shall collectively and personally try to please His Divine Grace by embracing his mood, vision and standards as they are represented by the principles of this Constitution.

Members of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness -- As It Is -- accept the dictates found in authorized Vaisnava sastra on the matter of initiation. We accept the sastric imperative for the bona fide spiritual seeker to aspire for acceptance into the Sampradaya through formal diksa initiation. We accept the sastric imperative that when the bona fide Spiritual Master departs, his spiritually qualified disciples are free to accept the responsibility of becoming diksa (bona fide) gurus. These relationships, properly engaged, in no way diminish the role of Srila Prabhupada as the Founder-Acarya.

[PADA: OK, that is the first problem. Out of the entire Gaudiya Matha -- where they had many "brahmana born" followers -- Srila Prabhupada says -- none of them are qualified to be acharyas. Why would "mleccha by birth" Westerners fare any better? 

And if "anyone who is spiritually qualified to be a diksha guru in ISKCON is free to accept the post of diksha guru," who will regulate who does and does not take the post of diksha guru? This sounds like a total acharya's post "free for all." 

Anyone who wants to claim that he is NOW the CURRENT acharya has to be accepted in ISKCON, because anyone and everyone is free (free for all) to accept that post. Is this not what happened in the Gaudiya Matha, "another man comes, then another man comes, then another man comes to be acharya," its a free for all. Why would we want to follow that program?

And how will these acharyas be regulated at all, if their followers think they are acharyas who are beyond the advice of the managerial body? And exactly what is an acharya regulatory body in the first place, Rocana never explains? And how well are they managing their current acharyas that they already have? And if they are not doing a good job there, why would we want to add more and more and more renegades to that existing dysfunctional acharya's pile? 

It seems like Rocana is proposing that the post of guru will be some sort of free for all "smash and grab" process where anyone and everyone who feels like they are qualified to be a diksha guru simply assumes the post without any pre-conditions, pre-screening, or control from any regulatory body. Then Rocana says, a pile of neophytes posing as acharyas will not diminish the role of the actual acharya. No, Srila Prabhupada says false gurus have diminished the entire India culture? You mean to say Rocana does not know his conditioned soul gurus have already tarnished and diminished the name of ISKCON and Krishna?] 

We accept the parity of siksa and diksa-guru, and the sastric imperative that initiation is a connection to the eternal sampradaya brought about by transmission of knowledge through the Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya Vaisnava via medium who is following the predecessor Acaryas in the Sampradaya, and particularly the most recent, preeminent Acarya − His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.

[PADA: We accept "the parity" of the neophyte temple preachers (aka the siksa devotees) and the acharyas? The neophyte shiksha temple devotees and the diksha acharyas are equals = parity? 

Parity: the state or condition of being equal, especially regarding status or pay.
"parity of incomes between rural workers and those in industrial occupations"


The temple neophyte is on parity with the acharya? This makes no sense at all? 
Isn't this the problem we have had all along here, that the GBC's gurus are advertised as parity / equals to Srila Prabhupada. Nope, they are not. The neophyte temple devotees are ONLY capable of connecting a person to Srila Prabhupada, but they are not capable of giving pure divyam jnanam and absorbing the sins of others like Jesus is doing? 

This is the same issue we we find in the Christian religion. There we find there are laymen, preachers, priests and so on, and they connect people to their guru, Lord Jesus. These laymen, preachers or priests are not considered as parity "equals" to Jesus?]  

We reject the notion that an organizational body or a collective of leaders of a matha or spiritual institution are authorized by sastra and the Sampradaya's Acaryas to withhold permission for any qualified disciple to become a bona fide representative of the Sampradaya by giving diksa initiation following the departure of his own Spiritual Master. 

[PADA: How do we know who is qualified then, if there are no guidelines being managed? And, how can we simply allow anyone who declares that they are now the current diksha guru to sit in ISKCON's temple vyasasana seats and preach that they are now the number 33 guru in the parampara? That would create chaos. Dozens or potentially even hundreds of people could then float in and out of ISKCON scooping up disciples for themselves -- and their programs would not be supervised by anyone in ISKCON? That is already going on to some extent, people are being told to be loyal to their GBC guru and not the overall ISKCON society and its GBC.]  

Likewise, we reject the notion that such an institutional body or collective of leaders has the right to withhold permission for any qualified disciple to enter into the sannyasa asrama.

Members of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness As It Is accept the Governing Body Commission construct established by His Divine Grace, and members of the GBC body who are acting in accordance with Srila Prabhupada's instructions for how this Governing Body is to function.

[PADA: Where does Srila Prabhupada say that anyone who wants to be acharya is free to declare himself as such? Where does Srila Prabhupada say that we all have to follow the GBC construct, simultaneously, the GBC cannot manage the acharyas because anyone who wants to declare he is an acharya can do so without any input from the GBC? In sum, where is Rocana getting all these ideas from? Did I forget to mention Rocana never explains how neophytes can take the post of diksha guru and absorb sins like Jesus is doing? ys pd]

1 comment:

  1. This is rather amazing, agreed. Rocana says there is a sacred lineage of only 32 people for the past 5,000 years, but now, anyone who wants to claim to be the number the 33 acharya in the list can just do so with no restrictions because everyone is "free"to do so. That means he is really opening the doors for a flood of more and more and more conditioned souls acting as acharyas. So they got caught printing counterfeit money, so now they are saying, well lets open the floodgates, everyone else is free to print counterfeit money too, who cares! This is non-workable for an institution, anyone who wants to declare they are the next acharya in the line is free to do so, makes no sense. ys pd

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