KD: So many are fed up and have left "Iskcon" to different degrees, but unfortunately we are also very divided on the guru issue. As there are several Ritvik / Prabhupadanuga groups, the same will likely be the situation for those who doesn't accept that conclusion. A few of us are planning to start a temple in Vrindavan in 5 years time on the basis of the original books. The finances are there. Already got a nice place in Vrindavan and a big place in Mayapur, outside the "Iskcon" campus. Also planning a bus tour in India, converting a new bus into a mobile temple. One of the regional leaders in India is going to be part of it.
KKD: Yes, it is very obvious that there are two big issues or problems in ISKCON! One problem is the guru issue, and the other is the unauthorized changes of Srila Prabhupada's original books. And it is very difficult to say which problem is worse!
PADA: Well it all comes down to: who is being promoted as the current acharya of whatever group we have? For example, the deviated ISKCON GBC's folks promote their process: that its common to see illicit sex and other deviations manifesting in the acharya's lineage. And that is also why they bury sexual predators and porno swamis in samadhis, and they spend $20,000,000 suing the Prabhupadanugas and they ban our people etc. They favor a guru lineage of deviants and they attack a guru lineage of pure devotees, and that is their track record.
KKD: Yes, it is very obvious that there are two big issues or problems in ISKCON! One problem is the guru issue, and the other is the unauthorized changes of Srila Prabhupada's original books. And it is very difficult to say which problem is worse!
PADA: Well it all comes down to: who is being promoted as the current acharya of whatever group we have? For example, the deviated ISKCON GBC's folks promote their process: that its common to see illicit sex and other deviations manifesting in the acharya's lineage. And that is also why they bury sexual predators and porno swamis in samadhis, and they spend $20,000,000 suing the Prabhupadanugas and they ban our people etc. They favor a guru lineage of deviants and they attack a guru lineage of pure devotees, and that is their track record.
Then, we have the Narayan Maharaja / Gaudiya Matha's folks, the promoters, advisors, rasika acharyas, siksha gurus and cheer leaders of the GBC's illicit sex acharya's process. So we can have a separate group from all that deviated process, but unless we clearly identify that our current acharya is Srila Prabhupada, we will have the same problems as the GBC has, i.e. no clear siddhanta.
That is why any group has to make a clear position paper statement about what alternate acharya system they are adopting from the GBC's, or else they will be possibly "lumped in" with the GBC's and Gaudiya Matha's sexual predator's acharya's lineages. Anyway, good luck with your separate group, just about anything is better than the idea that acharyas are often debauchees, that has to be rejected wholesale. And it seems, it is being rejected more and more. Keep us posted on your progress and programs.
A friend of ours says that at their USA ISKCON temple the GBC's plan is almost complete, there are barely any Western devotees participating. The GBC supposedly gives salaries to the folks managing the temple as well. Therefore, they have had their dream realized, they get to bilk the Hindus with a "showing of the deity program," just like the Gaudiya Matha's folks did. History repeated!
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A friend of ours says that at their USA ISKCON temple the GBC's plan is almost complete, there are barely any Western devotees participating. The GBC supposedly gives salaries to the folks managing the temple as well. Therefore, they have had their dream realized, they get to bilk the Hindus with a "showing of the deity program," just like the Gaudiya Matha's folks did. History repeated!
ys pd
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