BHAKTI VIKAS SWAMI: To be a disciple of Srila Prabhupada is really something special. Even devotees who left the mission many years ago can intrigue us with their wonderful stories of Srila Prabhupada in the "early days." The good feeling that they got from Prabhupada lives with them even now. Still, when we hear our strayed away Godbrothers and Godsisters tell their "Prabhupada stories" with such enthusiasm, we wonder, "If you could do it then, why not now?
Whatever you did for Prabhupada is great. You love Prabhupada and he loves you. You are so fortunate to have had his intimate association."
However, surrender to the spiritual master is not meant to be simply a youthful fling. He is our lord, birth after birth. You have done so much for Prabhupada's mission. Now won't you do more? You belong at Prabhupada's lotus feet, not anywhere else. Prabhupada wants you. He is waiting for you. So are we, your Godbrothers and sisters, nephews and nieces.
We are missing your association and friendship. Please come and join with us again." There are many Prabhupada disciples (and disciples of his disciples) who are still devotees at some level or other, but who are spoiling their lives by not practicing Krsna consciousness very seriously. Such a great asset of knowledge, experience and advancement is going to waste! The world is suffering by your not continuing to give to others what Prabhupada gave to you. Fellow devotees, we beg you -- please come back and help push on this movement in whatever capacity you can.
Or at least practice Krsna consciousness seriously again, for your own benefit and to honour your promise to Srila Prabhupada. Don't neglect the valuable gift you have received. Help yourself and others by being Krsna conscious.
My dear godbrothers and godsisters please hear my humble request. You are all highly exalted souls. Srila Prabhupada went all over the world, calling people to his flock, and you were the ones who responded. You were the ones who sacrificed everything on his order and took all risks to preach. How sweet and fresh were those early days!
But what of today? Let us look into our hearts. Do we still cry for Prabhupada? If not, why not? Have we become stuffy, staid, comfortable and complacent? Are we now self-righteous senior citizens, slowly ticking on to our next change of body? Or, worse still, have we slipped from the vows we made to Srila Prabhupada?
Prabhus, our duty to Srila Prabhupada is not over. It is not enough simply to remember Prabhupada. We have to do something significant for Him. The Krsna consciousness movement did not end in 1977. There is so much work to do all over the world. So many devotees need the association of experienced, mature devotees.
As senior family members, we have to help the newer devotees, even if, due to their inexperience, they do not always treat us as they should.
Whatever bliss we experienced in the ''Prabhupada days'' can be had again, for the Prabhupada days are not over, nor will they ever be over. As Srila Prabhupada said he lives forever by his divine instructions, and the follower lives with him. If we are not feeling the bliss of Krsna consciousness, we cannot blame it on any external cause. Srila Prabhupada has given us everything. He gave us the nectar of serving Krsna in ISKCON. The nectar is still there. It's up to us to get properly linked again.
Biographies and Glorifications of Srila Prabhupada-My Memories of Srila
Prabhupada-Srila Prabhupada's Loving Followers-Bhakti Vikas Swami.
However, surrender to the spiritual master is not meant to be simply a youthful fling. He is our lord, birth after birth. You have done so much for Prabhupada's mission. Now won't you do more? You belong at Prabhupada's lotus feet, not anywhere else. Prabhupada wants you. He is waiting for you. So are we, your Godbrothers and sisters, nephews and nieces.
We are missing your association and friendship. Please come and join with us again." There are many Prabhupada disciples (and disciples of his disciples) who are still devotees at some level or other, but who are spoiling their lives by not practicing Krsna consciousness very seriously. Such a great asset of knowledge, experience and advancement is going to waste! The world is suffering by your not continuing to give to others what Prabhupada gave to you. Fellow devotees, we beg you -- please come back and help push on this movement in whatever capacity you can.
Or at least practice Krsna consciousness seriously again, for your own benefit and to honour your promise to Srila Prabhupada. Don't neglect the valuable gift you have received. Help yourself and others by being Krsna conscious.
My dear godbrothers and godsisters please hear my humble request. You are all highly exalted souls. Srila Prabhupada went all over the world, calling people to his flock, and you were the ones who responded. You were the ones who sacrificed everything on his order and took all risks to preach. How sweet and fresh were those early days!
But what of today? Let us look into our hearts. Do we still cry for Prabhupada? If not, why not? Have we become stuffy, staid, comfortable and complacent? Are we now self-righteous senior citizens, slowly ticking on to our next change of body? Or, worse still, have we slipped from the vows we made to Srila Prabhupada?
Prabhus, our duty to Srila Prabhupada is not over. It is not enough simply to remember Prabhupada. We have to do something significant for Him. The Krsna consciousness movement did not end in 1977. There is so much work to do all over the world. So many devotees need the association of experienced, mature devotees.
As senior family members, we have to help the newer devotees, even if, due to their inexperience, they do not always treat us as they should.
Whatever bliss we experienced in the ''Prabhupada days'' can be had again, for the Prabhupada days are not over, nor will they ever be over. As Srila Prabhupada said he lives forever by his divine instructions, and the follower lives with him. If we are not feeling the bliss of Krsna consciousness, we cannot blame it on any external cause. Srila Prabhupada has given us everything. He gave us the nectar of serving Krsna in ISKCON. The nectar is still there. It's up to us to get properly linked again.
Biographies and Glorifications of Srila Prabhupada-My Memories of Srila
Prabhupada-Srila Prabhupada's Loving Followers-Bhakti Vikas Swami.
[PADA: OK this is a misconception and re-write of history. We "Prabhupada devotees" did not "stray away," we were systematically banished and removed by the GBC's and BVKS's false acharya's regime. In short we were ORDERED by the GBC / BVKS guru program that we had to EITHER promote the GBC's 11 conditioned soul acharyas, or we HAD to leave. Thus -- most of us left.
We originally joined this movement for the purpose of promoting the worship of our guru Srila Prabhupada and Krishna, thus we did NOT want to join this movement for the purpose of promoting the worship of a few of our deviant God brothers as ISKCON's gurus. Same thing as the post-1936 Gaudiya Matha, the rank and file members all left en masse too, after a few of their foolish God brothers hijacked the properties and made themselves into "self-appointed gurus."
That means the post-1977 ISKCON GBC already knew in advance that making their self-appointed gurus would destroy the mission and create a ghost town out of Prabhupada's temples, because this had all been done already post-1936 in the Gaudiya Math mission. Anyway! Its not what we signed up for.
Berkeley temple for example purged almost all the Prabhupada devotee out, and had ONLY three original Prabhupada devotees left remaining there by 1984, one of them was Hansadutta. And he went out and shot out the windows of three occupied buildings in downtown Berkeley with four loaded guns, terrifying the occupants therein, after he had already been arrested for being "drunk and disorderly" and harassing the stewardess on his airplane ride. Apart from the guns, police also found he had $12,000 cash money and open bottles of booze in his car.
Just imagine! The hapless devotees were all at the airport chanting to their guru, when he was handcuffed and hauled off for drunken behavior. Why would we want to support this type of "guru program" which was being orchestrated by the entire GBC body? That is not what we signed up for? And all of this was creating horrible mass public news media stories that was discouraging anyone from wanting to be identified as a Krishna devotee. And in sum, it seems the GBC / BVKS program was doing everything humanly possible to make the Hare Krishna religion a public laughingstock. Why would we want to aid and abet that process?
Did we forget to mention that Hrdayananda and Ramesvara sold all three of the Berkeley temple's houses, and then the householders mostly left, because there was no place left for them to live anymore? How do you expect people to stay, when you folks remove the places they are staying in? Did we forget, you guys also closed the San Francisco temple and scattered all these people?
You folks remove or sell the places where all these devotees reside, then wonder why the devotees are not all sleeping out on the street? Meanwhile your gurus live like opulent princes in five star hotels, or Satsvarupa's favorite place, Howard Johnson's? Srila Prabhupada said -- do not sell the NYC 55th street temple because the devotees will scatter, so you all knew in advance that would be the result if you folks closed or sold the buildings? And now your folks are trying to sell the NYC temple and you are kicking out the people who protest the sales of these buildings, meaning -- nothing has changed.
And! Why would we want to promote the worship of this foolishness which the GBC was forcing down our throats? And why didn't the rest of the GBC take notice that there was a mass exodus of all of us going on because the "gurus" they were promoting were alienating the mass of devotees, and the mass of public, all at once? Meanwhile, the police made 72 felony arrests from Hansadutta's devotees at the Berkeley temple in a 12 month period, because under the guidance of the GBC / BVKS guru program, it had become a haven for criminal behaviors.
Budhhimanta was a book distributor who was one of those who left the Berkeley temple, and he told me he cannot participate in the "Hansadutta cult." He married Hansadutta's ex, namely Himavati, and she also told me the same thing, she could not participate in the "crazy" Berkeley program.
Himavati was one of the people wearing stolen clothes that had been purchased with stolen credit cards when the police caught up with her AT THE TEMPLE. Both of these devotees are now dead PREMATURELY, and some would say they died of a broken heart after being removed from their service and put into so much problems. Buddihmanta died of cancer and Himavati was apparently depressed and drinking alcohol when she died. That is because they became depressed at the condition of their guru's mission, that you folks created. OK and we would say, your program killed them.
Yet another Berkeley devotee told me she had lost her will to live after being removed from serving the deity, and shortly after that she died of cancer. Her husband told me the same thing, he could not participate either, so he had to join the Sridhara Maharaja program. Even the GBC for San Francisco, Atreya Rsi, he told me he has to leave ISKCON because he cannot deal with these bogus gurus. So your program is discouraging people, that is when your program is not beating the devotees with shoes forcing them to leave.
In other words, the BVKS program no only disturbs the service of the Prabhupada devotees, their program causes them to leave ISKCON, and even -- to die in disgust. Then again even your own gurus are leaving this hot mess: Hansadutta left ISKCON, Bhagavan left ISKCON, Harikesha left ISKCON, Ramesvara left ISKCON, Kirtanananda started his own cult and left ISKCON, Hrdayananda is starting Krishna West, Satsvarupa is basically a lost soul, Jayapataka founded his child abuse program in India, Bhavananda is out, and in sum, even your own gurus are leaving ISKCON since the sewage smell created by your own gurus is so bad, even your own leaders have to get away from it. Your own people cannot stand the stench of smell they are creating, why would anyone else tolerate it? And how do you propose to attract the public to a religion that your own leaders have to abandon to get away from the smelly stench?
We originally joined this movement for the purpose of promoting the worship of our guru Srila Prabhupada and Krishna, thus we did NOT want to join this movement for the purpose of promoting the worship of a few of our deviant God brothers as ISKCON's gurus. Same thing as the post-1936 Gaudiya Matha, the rank and file members all left en masse too, after a few of their foolish God brothers hijacked the properties and made themselves into "self-appointed gurus."
That means the post-1977 ISKCON GBC already knew in advance that making their self-appointed gurus would destroy the mission and create a ghost town out of Prabhupada's temples, because this had all been done already post-1936 in the Gaudiya Math mission. Anyway! Its not what we signed up for.
Berkeley temple for example purged almost all the Prabhupada devotee out, and had ONLY three original Prabhupada devotees left remaining there by 1984, one of them was Hansadutta. And he went out and shot out the windows of three occupied buildings in downtown Berkeley with four loaded guns, terrifying the occupants therein, after he had already been arrested for being "drunk and disorderly" and harassing the stewardess on his airplane ride. Apart from the guns, police also found he had $12,000 cash money and open bottles of booze in his car.
Just imagine! The hapless devotees were all at the airport chanting to their guru, when he was handcuffed and hauled off for drunken behavior. Why would we want to support this type of "guru program" which was being orchestrated by the entire GBC body? That is not what we signed up for? And all of this was creating horrible mass public news media stories that was discouraging anyone from wanting to be identified as a Krishna devotee. And in sum, it seems the GBC / BVKS program was doing everything humanly possible to make the Hare Krishna religion a public laughingstock. Why would we want to aid and abet that process?
Did we forget to mention that Hrdayananda and Ramesvara sold all three of the Berkeley temple's houses, and then the householders mostly left, because there was no place left for them to live anymore? How do you expect people to stay, when you folks remove the places they are staying in? Did we forget, you guys also closed the San Francisco temple and scattered all these people?
You folks remove or sell the places where all these devotees reside, then wonder why the devotees are not all sleeping out on the street? Meanwhile your gurus live like opulent princes in five star hotels, or Satsvarupa's favorite place, Howard Johnson's? Srila Prabhupada said -- do not sell the NYC 55th street temple because the devotees will scatter, so you all knew in advance that would be the result if you folks closed or sold the buildings? And now your folks are trying to sell the NYC temple and you are kicking out the people who protest the sales of these buildings, meaning -- nothing has changed.
And! Why would we want to promote the worship of this foolishness which the GBC was forcing down our throats? And why didn't the rest of the GBC take notice that there was a mass exodus of all of us going on because the "gurus" they were promoting were alienating the mass of devotees, and the mass of public, all at once? Meanwhile, the police made 72 felony arrests from Hansadutta's devotees at the Berkeley temple in a 12 month period, because under the guidance of the GBC / BVKS guru program, it had become a haven for criminal behaviors.
Budhhimanta was a book distributor who was one of those who left the Berkeley temple, and he told me he cannot participate in the "Hansadutta cult." He married Hansadutta's ex, namely Himavati, and she also told me the same thing, she could not participate in the "crazy" Berkeley program.
Himavati was one of the people wearing stolen clothes that had been purchased with stolen credit cards when the police caught up with her AT THE TEMPLE. Both of these devotees are now dead PREMATURELY, and some would say they died of a broken heart after being removed from their service and put into so much problems. Buddihmanta died of cancer and Himavati was apparently depressed and drinking alcohol when she died. That is because they became depressed at the condition of their guru's mission, that you folks created. OK and we would say, your program killed them.
Yet another Berkeley devotee told me she had lost her will to live after being removed from serving the deity, and shortly after that she died of cancer. Her husband told me the same thing, he could not participate either, so he had to join the Sridhara Maharaja program. Even the GBC for San Francisco, Atreya Rsi, he told me he has to leave ISKCON because he cannot deal with these bogus gurus. So your program is discouraging people, that is when your program is not beating the devotees with shoes forcing them to leave.
In other words, the BVKS program no only disturbs the service of the Prabhupada devotees, their program causes them to leave ISKCON, and even -- to die in disgust. Then again even your own gurus are leaving this hot mess: Hansadutta left ISKCON, Bhagavan left ISKCON, Harikesha left ISKCON, Ramesvara left ISKCON, Kirtanananda started his own cult and left ISKCON, Hrdayananda is starting Krishna West, Satsvarupa is basically a lost soul, Jayapataka founded his child abuse program in India, Bhavananda is out, and in sum, even your own gurus are leaving ISKCON since the sewage smell created by your own gurus is so bad, even your own leaders have to get away from it. Your own people cannot stand the stench of smell they are creating, why would anyone else tolerate it? And how do you propose to attract the public to a religion that your own leaders have to abandon to get away from the smelly stench?
So we rank and file either promoted your 11 as God's messiahs, or we had to leave, and so we all left. And that is still the case today, as soon as the GBC / BVKS debauchee acharya's program finds out that some few hundred people in Bangalore are worshiping Srila Prabhupada, they are infuriated and they have to stomp jack boots on that. Anyone who worships Srila Prabhupada is a criminal who has to be driven out and beaten with shoes, harassed, sued, then they wonder where we all went? Meanwhile, where did their own gurus go? Didn't most of them also leave?
So the BVKS program always lowers the boom on anyone who wants to worship Srila Prabhupada, and spends $20,000,000 suing those devotees in the India Supreme Court, and even trying to have them placed in jail, so they can make another ghost town out of MORE temples and kill the worship of the pure devotee Srila Prabhupada even more. So its currently illegal to worship Srila Prabhupada in the GBC / BVKS ISKCON process, you'll be banned, or maybe beat up, or sued, or -- as in my case -- you will receive death threats and your associates will be murdered, all because the BVKS program has made it a crime to worship Srila Prabhupada.
So as long as it is a crime to worship the founder acharya of ISKCON, we are going to be outside. Because on the outside we have the freedom to worship our acharya without being banned, beaten, sued and assassinated. How can we stay in a place where we will be banned, beaten, sued, or shot to death, for worshiping our guru?
Did I forget to mention that the GBC / BVKS program had to be sued for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse, because they did not treat the society's children much better than they treated us, or they treated the children even worse than they treated us? How can we support a program that mistreats women, children, brahmanas, cows, and insults the intelligence of the general public, who sees this as a giant foolish mess? And why would we want to be implicated in the karma of supporting all this apa-dharma?
Srila Prabhupada says that false guru programs are destined for the most obnoxious regions, and we believe that all the participants and cheer leaders of this process are implicated in the odious karma. The good news is, we are building a new wave of people who are going to worship Srila Prabhupada, despite you guys demonizing and suing them as well.
As for us not practicing, well after the rank and file were removed from the Gaudiya Matha most of them fell down and Srila Prabhupada said many of them were sitting in tea shops, reading newspapers and smoking beedis. So that was also known to you guys, that removing all these devotees from their service would cause them to become implicated back in the material pool. That is what you guys wanted, I personally heard some GBC leaders gloating that many of us were going back to getting jobs and living like materialists. As Bhavananda told Tamal in 1979, "let them all leave, we have got our own disciples." Your program wanted us to leave, and then had some of us killed for complaining that your program is removing us.
Now you say we should come back, so we can hear your spokesman Jayadvaita explain to us that acharyas are often engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children? We have to come back to listen to you guys insult and attack acharyas as the worst deviants on the planet? We do not want to hear these attacks on the acharyas, but thanks for the invite anyway!
Right now many of the Prabhupada devotees are already dead, died from a broken heart over the way you guys ruined their home, or they were beaten with shoes on the way out the door. Kulashekhara for example was the first devotee in UK and he was beaten severely by a disciple of Bhakti tirtha. He had broken bones and almost died, but you guys always have big photos of BTS all over the place, because you worship the persons who orchestrate beatings and killings of the devotees of Prabhupada.
We should come back to see the people who have us beaten and killed being worshiped? And Kulashekhara never recovered, he told me he was constantly in chronic pain after that beating, and he also died prematurely, probably from his injuries. And you worship the people who treat Vaishnavas like this? As soon as you folks find a person who orchestrates severely injuring the Prabhupada devotees, and having his devotees almost killed, and actually killed when they die prematurely, you plaster the photos of these vicious Prabhupada devotee beating program folks -- all over the place?
Anyway the good news is we are building an alliance of people who want to worship Srila Prabhupada in spite of all your attempts to ban, beat, sue and kill us. And I personally am not lamenting that all of this has happened, because like Queen Kunti says, no one can change their destiny. We Prabhupada devotees have our own personal eternal relationship with Krishna and His representative Srila Prabhupada, none of you guys can take that away from us no matter what, and actually I have to thank you guys for one thing, I have had to realize that my best association is with Krishna and Srila Prabhupada direct, and its not with a morally corrupt organization.
And that is a giant blessing in itself.
Anyway, thanks for the sentiment, but that is all it is, there is no substance to your call to have us come back, we are not in any case "coming back" to your worship of illicit sex messiah's project, we gave that up already, we are moving on with Srila Prabhupada exclusively as our guru. You should do the same as us. And do not re-write our history, we did not leave, we were forced to walk the plank and get out of the institution by your people, and then you folks had us chased with goondas with baseball bats.
You folks wanted us to leave, and you folks wanted to have us beaten and killed for defending the worship of our guru, lets never forget that. And rest assured, Krishna and Yamaraja and Chitragupta will never forget what you folks did, ever. Srila Prabhupada says false gurus are never forgiven by the Lord or any agents of the Lord, that means I am forbidden to forgive this as an agent of the Lord. ys pd]
So as long as it is a crime to worship the founder acharya of ISKCON, we are going to be outside. Because on the outside we have the freedom to worship our acharya without being banned, beaten, sued and assassinated. How can we stay in a place where we will be banned, beaten, sued, or shot to death, for worshiping our guru?
Did I forget to mention that the GBC / BVKS program had to be sued for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse, because they did not treat the society's children much better than they treated us, or they treated the children even worse than they treated us? How can we support a program that mistreats women, children, brahmanas, cows, and insults the intelligence of the general public, who sees this as a giant foolish mess? And why would we want to be implicated in the karma of supporting all this apa-dharma?
Srila Prabhupada says that false guru programs are destined for the most obnoxious regions, and we believe that all the participants and cheer leaders of this process are implicated in the odious karma. The good news is, we are building a new wave of people who are going to worship Srila Prabhupada, despite you guys demonizing and suing them as well.
As for us not practicing, well after the rank and file were removed from the Gaudiya Matha most of them fell down and Srila Prabhupada said many of them were sitting in tea shops, reading newspapers and smoking beedis. So that was also known to you guys, that removing all these devotees from their service would cause them to become implicated back in the material pool. That is what you guys wanted, I personally heard some GBC leaders gloating that many of us were going back to getting jobs and living like materialists. As Bhavananda told Tamal in 1979, "let them all leave, we have got our own disciples." Your program wanted us to leave, and then had some of us killed for complaining that your program is removing us.
Now you say we should come back, so we can hear your spokesman Jayadvaita explain to us that acharyas are often engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children? We have to come back to listen to you guys insult and attack acharyas as the worst deviants on the planet? We do not want to hear these attacks on the acharyas, but thanks for the invite anyway!
Right now many of the Prabhupada devotees are already dead, died from a broken heart over the way you guys ruined their home, or they were beaten with shoes on the way out the door. Kulashekhara for example was the first devotee in UK and he was beaten severely by a disciple of Bhakti tirtha. He had broken bones and almost died, but you guys always have big photos of BTS all over the place, because you worship the persons who orchestrate beatings and killings of the devotees of Prabhupada.
We should come back to see the people who have us beaten and killed being worshiped? And Kulashekhara never recovered, he told me he was constantly in chronic pain after that beating, and he also died prematurely, probably from his injuries. And you worship the people who treat Vaishnavas like this? As soon as you folks find a person who orchestrates severely injuring the Prabhupada devotees, and having his devotees almost killed, and actually killed when they die prematurely, you plaster the photos of these vicious Prabhupada devotee beating program folks -- all over the place?
Anyway the good news is we are building an alliance of people who want to worship Srila Prabhupada in spite of all your attempts to ban, beat, sue and kill us. And I personally am not lamenting that all of this has happened, because like Queen Kunti says, no one can change their destiny. We Prabhupada devotees have our own personal eternal relationship with Krishna and His representative Srila Prabhupada, none of you guys can take that away from us no matter what, and actually I have to thank you guys for one thing, I have had to realize that my best association is with Krishna and Srila Prabhupada direct, and its not with a morally corrupt organization.
And that is a giant blessing in itself.
Anyway, thanks for the sentiment, but that is all it is, there is no substance to your call to have us come back, we are not in any case "coming back" to your worship of illicit sex messiah's project, we gave that up already, we are moving on with Srila Prabhupada exclusively as our guru. You should do the same as us. And do not re-write our history, we did not leave, we were forced to walk the plank and get out of the institution by your people, and then you folks had us chased with goondas with baseball bats.
You folks wanted us to leave, and you folks wanted to have us beaten and killed for defending the worship of our guru, lets never forget that. And rest assured, Krishna and Yamaraja and Chitragupta will never forget what you folks did, ever. Srila Prabhupada says false gurus are never forgiven by the Lord or any agents of the Lord, that means I am forbidden to forgive this as an agent of the Lord. ys pd]
Right this is not realistic, after vilifying, harassing, banning and suing our people, or worse, for their worshiping Prabhupada, we need to "come back" to get the same treatment all over again? Sign me up!
ReplyDeleteAfter kicking our people in the head for their complaining about sexual predator gurus, embezzling, and a host of other crimes, we need to come back, to get kicked again?
You are right. They have to change their situation, open up dialogue with us, and allow our people back, and stop banning and suing our people, that would be a first step. Yep. There is no evidence they are ever going to do that, which means we were correct all along to make our own independent stuff.
Right, they would not make a general letter to all the devotees, they would reach out to specific people and start to try to bring them in. Meanwhile many Prabhupada devotees are going to be dead and gone pretty soon, and the GBC are not in any rush, so its not a serious proposal, they are just waiting for the clock to run out on their program, we will all be gone and they will win.
Problem for them is, our program is growing and will continue to grow long after these "Prabhupada devotee" "living gurus" have departed. In any case BVKS is trying to blame us for the empty temples instead of blaming his party for removing us, he is blaming the victims, which is typical of abusive personality cults. ys pd
Thanks prabhu. Right, thanks for that link, yes BVKS writes an open letter to the GBC saying they are bogus for preaching mainly to the Hindus. Then, he makes his own main program based in India, mainly preaching to the Hindus. He is not making any sense?
ReplyDeleteSrila Prabhupada said he wanted the main preaching to be in the USA.
Then he says, the GBC will not listen to his plea to stop their preaching to the Hindus anyway, well right, because that is his own program? He is arguing with his own shadow.
Then BVKS says we ex-inhabitants of ISKCON should all come back to ISKCON, but the GBC does not even listen to him, much less us, because they are the same independent mavericks they have been all along? How can we dialogue with the GBC, when even BVKS cannot dialogue with them? Again, makes no sense.
But if the GBC really wanted to get the devotees back, they would approach each of them individually, because each of them has their own independent gripes that need sorting out. They are not going to listen to BVKS, they are not going to listen to us or anyone else either? So that is the first issue that needs sorting out, they need to climb down from their ivory towers and listen to the peons. ys pd