Friday, August 2, 2013

Mahanidhi scandal expands (other ISKCON GBC gurus implicated)

Dear PADA: RE: Mahanidhi swami falldown 

I Just spoke with Damodara dasa (Mahanidhi swami's first disciple) and he confirmed the news of maharaja's affair with a 30 yrs old Rasa rangini dasi (maharaja's 3rd disciple from delhi). Maharaja was caught with her red handed 2 months back. Currently Radhanath swami and Gopla krsna are in a meeting to somehow cover it all up. They will be soon going to meet mahanidhi and help him "rectify." THIS MATAJI WAS MARRIED TO A GUY AND MAHARAJA GOT HER DIVORCED FROM HIM IN 2006. This is the same mataji whom in 2003 I saw with Maharaja in his closed room in a very compromised position." 

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S Das: We show so much compassion for fallen gurus and yet we throw out and persecute those who take direct shelter of Srila Prabhupada. There is a huge difference between Madhudvisa fall down as a sannyasi and Mahanidhi's falldown as a fake Guru. He is a deceiver and deserved my condemnation as he cheated others by posing as a bona fide guru. After living in Radha Kunda for so many years you would expect some purification and instead he ran away with a seventy five years old married woman. Is there any shame? Who are we trying to protect? Am I angry? Yes I am. He is not worth my compassion because he has none toward those who took shelter of him while posing as a bona fide member of our pure Sampradaya of self realized souls.


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PADA: Srila Prabhupada told us in 1971 when we went to Vrndavana, that we cannot live in Radha kunda (we can only visit there temporarily). He said if we try to live there and do "nirjana bhajana" we will simply think of sex life, and we will not be in Radha Kunda -- but Narakah kunda (hell). 

He also firmly ordered us, that we must never associate with these Radha Kunda babajis, who live there. He said these babajis are very contaminated people with many wrong ideas. It seems Mahanidhi swami ignored all these instructions? 

Worse, some of these babajis tried to "re-initiate" (hi-jack) Srila Prabhupada's disciples -- even way back then! The babajis said we need to accept them -- to get the real rasika teachings. It is amazing that all these direct orders are being ignored. And the unfortunate result of ignoring these direct orders is: that some of the people who went to Radha Kunda to live there -- ended up -- thinking of women and sex life, just as he warned us -- would happen! Srila Prabhupada said we need to be preachers and not artificial "nirjana bhajana in Radha Kunda babajis." He is right! ys pd    

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Dear PADA: Mahanidhi swami took sannyasa initiation from Satsvarupa, and helped SDG compile the bogus GBC's "Lilamrta," -- now you know why that book has so many defects and offenses against Srila Prabhupada.

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G dasa: Until 2002 Aindra prabhu was best friends with Mahanidhi, and Aindra used to come and meet Mahanidhi every day at Radha kunda. But when Aindra came to know about Mahanidhi's so many re-initiations he questioned Mahanidhi Maharaj and they had a big argument and fight about this issue. I was there and was an eye witness to that fight. Aindra prabhu told Mahanidhi that from now onwards he will have nothing to do with him until he repents and apologizes to Srila Prabhupada.

And I was the one who built Mahanidhi swami's ashram in Radha kunda in 2001. I was going to take initiation from him, and I was his right hand secretary and assistant, but in 2003 I came to know about his affair with a woman (who was about 26 years old at the time) and so I rejected him. I then told some of the other ISKCON GBC leaders at that time about Mahanidhi's female association scandal problem, and that the woman had got a divorce to be with Mahanidhi, but no one listened. Damodar was my best friend and first disciple of Mahanidhi swami at the time.

I knew about his connection to women all along, and much, much, much more about Mahanidhi swami's problems, for example that he has taken 5 re-initiations and all the GBC in ISKCON all know about this problem, but no one wants to questions him -- as he has been built up in the first place by these iskcon leaders as ISKCON's (rasika guru) ANSWER TO NARAYAN MAHARAJ.

Worse, in 2003 I saw him make the grossest of offences when he kicked the SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM IN HIS VERANDA. And he also said the Bhagavad Gita of Srila Prabhupada contains no nectar, its dry.

[PADA: Satsvarupa wrote that as well "the more I chant, the drier it gets.]

M dasa: 5 reinitiations? WOW! Why and from whom?

G das: MAHANIDHI also gave me my so-called SIDDHA PRANALI initiaiton AND he told me to do SMARANAM and YOGA PITHA UPASANA. LOL. Mahanidhi's first re-initiation was from Narayan maharaj, then Puri maharaj, then Krsna dasa babaji of Goverdhan, then Ananta dasa pandit of Radha kunda and finally from this Rama krsnadasa babaji

T das: Oh Krsna! 

G Dasa: Mahanidhi told me, and many others in 2003, that Srila Prabhupada is not a pure devotee and he has made many mistakes, so these were all the various reasons for Mahanidhi's rejecting Srila Prabhupada as his guru. Mahanidhi also used to allow meat eaters to hear his rasa lila pastimes talks and also to read books like Govinda lila-amrita and Krsna bhava-amrita -- asta kaliya lila. Only those who had enough money could become his disciples, the rest he rejected, or he just kept them waiting for his so called causeless mercy -- which he never gave to them.

M dasa: My God Krishna! People / devotees want to be cheated really!

G Dasa: Radhanath swami called his book "The Art of Chanting," the "Bible" of ISKCON, and Sacidananda swami called this book a master piece. But I knew his book was simply a word for word translation of Ananta dasa pandit's book, which is written in Bengali.

M das: He said that Srila Prabhupada is not a pure devotees... is he completely crazy? Bible of iskcon?

G Dasa: Nearly all his books and lectures are a copy and paste of Ananta dasa pandit's books and lectures.

M dasa: What do you know about this Guru in Barsana? I forget his name. Because some of my old Iskcon friends like him very much......

G Dasa: Ramesh baba -- the guru in Barsana. He is a sahajiya. And that is why Sacinandan swami and Radhanatha dance like these sahajiyas, they follow these people.

M das: YES! Really a sahajya? because I have fear to make a appardha? Are you sure?

G Dasa: Yes fully.

M Dasa: So many of my old friends are going to him. One of his disciples teaches in UK -- how to dance like a gopi. And some stupid folks are doing it with some other friends, but its like a laughing show. But I think for him it was not only a show.......

G Dasa: This Ramesh baba is the siksha guru of Mahanidhi and "diksha guru" of Sacidananda swami, Radhantha and Lokanath swami and also Radha Govinda maharaja.

M Dasa: Please can you help me to create a nice article about " Sahajiya" and about Ramesh-Baba especially.

G Dasa: They all took re-initiation from Ramesh baba.

M dasa: Then I can help get this to many devotees ...

G Dasa: All of them got a secret re-initiation. I have many articles already written.

M dasa: PLEASE SEND ME!! Secret reinitiation ? Of Sacinandana Swami etc.?

G Dasa: Yes

W dasa: Some of our new "Friends"who have created problems within our sanga are connected to Bhakta das, who is connected to Radhanath, who is connected to Mahanidhi, who is connected with Iskcon's Gurus. Now we know the source of our "troubles."

G Dasa: Till 2002 Aindra prabhu was best friends with Mahanidhi swami, and he used to come to meet Mahanidhi every day at Radha kunda, but when Aindra came to know about Mahanidhi's so many re-initiations, he questioned maharaj and they had a big argument and fight. I was there as a witness to that fight. Aindra prabhu told Mahanidhi that from now onwards he will have nothing to do with him til he repents and apologizes to Srila Prabhupada.

W das: There is no need to canonize devotees. We have Srila Prabhupada living still in sound and the quest for "heroes" to replace Srila Prabhupada is going to always meet with disappointments, due to false shelters.

M das: But now, G Dasa Prabhu, one old friend, he is every year often in Barsana and meets with Ramesh-baba, and he told me now that Ramesh baba has not ONE disciple. He told me that Ramesh said to him that he is not a guru and he gives never initiation. What is truth now? Now he told me on phone call.

W dasa: Some may think ... Oh,we should only look for the honey and stop making offenses to Iskcon Gurus....we should hear more "Hari katha" from devotees like Mahanidhi. Now what? Those fanatics always find some other Monkey - like pretender to endorse.

G Dasa: This is why I told you, it is a secret initiation.

M das: Because G Prabhu said that Ramesh baba is the new guru of Sacinandana Swami and Radhanath swami........but an another Prabhu, my old Iskcon friend told me now that Ramesh baba gives no initiations because he said about himself, that he is not a diksa guru. What is now the truth? Because some of my old Fiskcon friends they are going every year many times to this Ramesh baba, and I wanted to know more about this Ramesh baba, because I heard that he has a great Sahajiya sect.

G Dasa: If you want to get initiation from Ramesh baba, I can make that happen. Are you ready? You just have to get into their inner circles -- just like the secret societies of the west.

M Dasa: My God....only cheating is going on.

G Dasa: Til 2003 I was a part of this inner circle, the nexus, from out side it looks that they all are in gopi bhava, but once you get in the inner circle you realize it is a horror show. Watch Radhanth, Lokanath, Sacidananda, Mahanidhi closely when they dance or do kirtan, and you will see that how closely they resemble these babajis. Very few know that just before Srila Prabhupada made these negative statements about people taking sannyasa, Mahanidhi swami had approached Srila Prabhupada for sannyasa. 

And Srila Prabhupada rejected him saying you are not qualified for sannyasa ---: SRILA PRABHUPADA : "And this kind of hypocrisy--they have taken sannyasa and mixing with woman. This is not to be allowed. If you want woman you get yourself married, live respectfully. We have no objection. But this hypocrisy should be stopped. There have been so many fallen down. First of all there will be no sannyasi anymore. I have got very bad experience. And at least, we are not going to create new sannyasis. And those who have fallen down, let them marry, live like respectable gentlemen. I have no objection. [...]

"Get one wife and live like a gentleman. Similarly woman. Live with one husband fastidiously, with children. What is the wrong there? We have so many grhastha devotees. [...] 

" But what is this nonsense that you take sannyasa and make relation with...? This should be completely stopped."

(Srila Prabhupada Conversation, 7/1/77).

G Dasa: Then Mahanidhi took sannyasa from Satsvarupa Maharaj and Mahanidhi is the real one responsible for the bogus Lila-amrita, he did all the interviews and compiling for Satsvarupa. This fall down will really shake the other GBC's / gurus, since Mahanidhi swami is the siksha guru to many "A LISTED GURUS" like Radhanath, Sachinanda swami, Banu swami, Lokanath, BB Govinda swami, Gopal krsna maharaja etc etc. Soon we will see the GBC / gurus try to cover it all up, as they have since 2003 already.

W Dasa: Flies on a sticky paper jaja!! Krsna cleans things up wholesale. Sri Krsna Ki Jaya!!!

D: Uh oh!

G: This initiating-guru system is all just a farce ... many will go the same way.

S Das: On his Vyasa puja this year, Mahanidhi's disciples hired a helicopter and threw flower petals on Radha Kunda. Three days later -- he was gone. I was told his disciples pleaded with him not to leave Radha Kunda and sort his problems out. They asked him to leave the association of the old lady (75 years old I was told). He told them to leave if they wanted but he would not give up her association. What do you make out of that? Weird indeed. 

[Regarding how a Sannyāsī must be very careful not to indulge in sense gratification for they become a vantasi. Srila Prabhupada:]

TRANSLATION
One who accepts the sannyasa order gives up the three principles of materialistic activities in which one indulges in the field of household life—namely religion, economic development and sense gratification. One who first accepts sannyasa but then returns to such materialistic activities is to be called a vantasi, or one who eats his own vomit. He is indeed a shameless person.

PURPORT
Materialistic activities are regulated by the institution of varnasrama-dharma. Without varnasrama-dharma, materialistic activities constitute animal life. Yet even in human life, while observing the principles of varna and asrama-brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, brahmacarya, gṛhastha, vanaprastha and sannyasa—one must ultimately accept sannyasa, the renounced order, for only by the renounced order can one be situated in brahma-sukha, or transcendental bliss. In brahma-sukha one is no longer attracted by lusty desires. Indeed, when one is no longer disturbed, especially by lusty desires for sexual indulgence, he is fit to become a sannyasi. 

Otherwise, one should not accept the sannyasa order. 

If one accepts sannyasa at an immature stage, there is every possibility of his being attracted by women and lusty desires and thus again becoming a so-called grhastha or a victim of women. Such a person is most shameless, and he is called vantasi, or one who eats that which he has already vomited. He certainly leads a condemned life. In our Krsna consciousness movement it is advised, therefore, that the sannyasis and brahmacaris keep strictly aloof from the association of women so that there will be no chance of their falling down again as victims of lusty desires.

[SB: 7.15.36]

P: Talking of Prabhupadas instructions ! He actually wanted everybody to get married because he knew that none of us is ready to become renounced. That was his clear desire .... What bores me often is the endless quotations out of the Shastra. Much more interesting would be to read what Devotees have realized over the years. 

Religion always tries to control people through sex and that is not possible. When not properly lived out it will always pop up again. Thinking about it is like doing it. As long it is done with love for the person I believe it's healthy and nourishes our soul. It's a bit like how we use a knife. To properly cut a slice of bread or cut somebody's throat with it .....Why a man becomes a victim of women? I would rather say that women become victim of man! That is my own realization. I don't have to agree with all that Prabhupada said. He never told me that I have to. We always have the choice to become like sheeple or think also a bit for ones self. Believe me you won't go to hell for that........

P: You can lead sheep to knowledge ..... But you can't make them think!

D: One can never put out fire by adding fuel to it. Similarly, material desires can never cease to bother human beings. That's why vedic lifestyle helps one transcend such mundane stuff. Srila Prabhupada never said Krishna consciousness is for everyone. For his disciples each word from him is worth its weight in gold...and his words are pretty heavy!

V: Well there you go then.....another one bites the dust....

D: One who reads...not just read..but study Srila Prabhupada books can think independent of everyone in the material world. The knowledge is not derived or experiential. It just dawns ...like a swift sunrise. And stays eternally...

P: I mean don't people have eyes in their head. I could have told you by just looking at him that he's not ready to take disciples! If we are not aware who is who then we might get what we deserve. We have to open our eyes and feel with our heart. If there's always somebody around who does the thinking for us like many incompetent ISKCON leaders, you might end up in never never land, with them.  

D: That's why it is important to mull over what exactly Srila Prabhupada instructions were. If these people had understood...which needs head on the shoulder...these things wouldn't happen in iskcon.

G: Everyone performing the process of bhakti must make sure to give up false ego (fame, name, recognition, followers, wealth etc.) for no one can cheat maya the unsummortable divine energy of the Lord, for She knows how to trick and firmly entangle those whose heart is not pure.

R: Welcome to the world of ITSACON => "GURUS" + Blind Followers!

M: Srila Prabhupada: But this hypocrisy should be stopped. There have been so many fallen down. First of all there will be no sannyasi anymore. I have got very bad experience. And at least, we are not going to create new sannyasis. And those who have fallen down, let them get married. 

25 comments:

  1. Srila Prabhupada: "And those who have fallen down, let them get married."

    Unfortunately in FISKCON, the false iskcon today, even after they fall down for (fill in the blank-) years, once they come back they go right back to collecting money from their disciples. The disciples think if they sell their houses for their gurus, and their cars, all that they have, it is the greatest service to these men. But these men "have fallen down, let them get married." So why should we support them as if they were Prabhupada, who never kept a dime for himself?

    Wake up people! When your guru comes back from blooping give him nothing! He is a grhastha now not a sannyasi, even if he won't admit it. We have Prabhupada's order, "this hypocrisy should be stopped.".

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    1. But this is broad way.... "The show must go on"at all costs!

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  2. you sound like a bunch of old ladies at lunch time, clucking like hens.

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    1. Yep you couldn’t put it in a better way Old hens clucking
      It also seems that these Hens only get happy when something appears untoward
      All glories to Sri Guru & Gauranga

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  3. GREAT ARTICLE ON RAMESH BABA CONNECTION WITH FISKCON GURU`S/GOPI BHAVA CLUB BOYS... http://prabhupadavision.com/2011/12/gopi-bhava/

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  4. There is of course a huge agenda who want to have Vaishnavism 100% completely removed from the West. Prabhupada called them demons. Therefore Prabhupada established istagosthi and public relations.
    People in general what do they know about conditioned status and liberated platform?
    Agreed, people in general are so conditioned that they even won't read anything about fallen ISKCON gurus.
    Only problem, there are professionals who get paid to remove Vaishnavism from western nations. Nowadays they easily get all information about false gurus who demand to be worshiped as good as God, absolutism, what is in western nations unconstitutional / criminal.
    ISKCON and GM better hit the road and get things idiot-proof. At one point it will say, sorry folks, game over, you bungled the job. Still, they won't listen, "we need living gurus no matter how degraded these gurus are". Isn't this kind of suicidal policy? Prabhupada: "If when a good man becomes too much frustrated, he commits suicide. That is also very current in your country."

    Better stop this risky madness, elect bona fide GBC and conduct missionary activities cooperatively. I mean, before the whole thing gets spoiled...or is it spoiled already?

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  5. api cet su-durācāro
    bhajate mām ananya-bhāk
    sādhur eva sa mantavyaḥ
    samyag vyavasito hi saḥ


    Even if one commits the most abominable action, if he is engaged in devotional service he is to be considered saintly because he is properly situated in his determination.

    Bhagavad Gita 9.30
    http://vedabase.net/bg/9/30/

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  6. This verse does not apply to gurus. This verse applies to us neophytes, yes, we can be forgiven for fall downs, but gurus are not falling down into illicit sex with their disciples etc. A guru is an uttama devotee, that means tama (ignorance) cannot overcome him. You are using a verse that applies to neophytes to make it sound like it applies to acharyas, its does not. Acaryam mam vijnaiyam, the acharya is as pure as Krishna, that means he is not a debauchee. You are mixing up apples and organges. ys pd

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  7. Very well constructed and interesting article. A+

    to krishna1008, generally speaking, almost 99.9% of the gurus in the past have been conditioned souls who are just following their gurus. Once they go back to Godhead, they become liberated and their disciples follow them and then THEY become liberated. In this way, all the gurus have become liberated, but most of them were fallen the whole time they were on earth compared to uttama adhikaris.

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  8. which of Sri Anantas das Baba's book Mahanidhi Swami translated from Bengali and called Tha art of Chanting???

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  9. rasrangini dd (geeta bidani)the lady responsible for mahanidhi swamis fall down is not divorced she is married is 45 yrs old has 2 children and is cheating on her husband and is very rich she is the director of CHENAB PLASTICS AND STAYS IN NOIDA how could she do this with her family and guru shame!!!!!!

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  10. FYI, Ramesh Baba ji of Maan Mandir, Gahvar Van etc Barsana is an initiated Sadhu of the Nimbārka Sampradāya. However of late, he has relinquished the symbols of the Nimbārka tradition for the sake of supporting all Vaiṣṇava denominations. Read into that what you will. He is definitely not Sahajiya. Radhe Shyam.

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  11. Could you please tell which of Sri Anantas das Baba's book Mahanidhi Swami translated from Bengali and called The art of Chanting???

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  12. MAHANIDHI SWAMI’S LETTER AUGUST 13, 2013
    Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayate!
    Dear devotees and friends,
    Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. For your consideration I offer the following explanation of the recent events of my life.
    The Veda Purana says in Kali-yuga, disciples will become so antagonistic, envious and ungrateful that they will even kill their own Guru. Recently, a few disciples have accused me of improper behavior with a female devotee, and that was publicized worldwide.
    Contrary to the thousands of false statements, distorted facts, wild exaggerated stories and complete lies, I have never had any illicit relations with a woman or man during my entire devotional life. Of course, this is only possible by the mercy of my Gurudeva Srila Prabhupada, Lord Gauranga and Sri Krishna’s Holy Names. And in no way have I left my eternal divine holy master Srila Prabhupada, and ran away with a woman or some other Guru.
    Why did I resign from ISKCON, the International Society for Krishna Consciousness? By the 15th of June 2013, I observed that some antagonistic disciples had formed a conspiracy, and then forcefully spread slanderous allegations and completely false stories about my character to the disciples, and then throughout India and overseas. Not only was my name, reputation, disciple sanga, and preaching platform destroyed, but so to was all the wonderful preaching being done by the disciples. Seeing that permanent damage was already done, and feeling that the situation was hopeless, I accepted it as Bhagavan Sri Krishna’s sweet will.
    Now it seems that time had come to change the focus, and concentrate on my personal internal spiritual development. At this time, I suddenly remembered some important siksha Srila Prabhupada gave in 1972.
    In that year, my Gurudeva Srila Prabhupada said, “Preach while you are young. When you are old, retire to Vrndavana and chant Hare Krishna. If you have preached sufficiently, you can retire to chant Hare Krishna.” (Prabhupada Lilamrta Vol 5 pg. 94: 1983 ed.)
    I am sixty-three years old, and have spent the last forty years of my life in ISKCON actively preaching and publishing books to spread the science of Krishna
    Consciousness around the world. Feeling that I have preached sufficiently, I thought now I can follow my Gurudeva’s siksha to retire in Vrndavana and chant Hare Krishna.
    Thus, I resigned from the glorious preaching campaign of ISKCON to spend the balance of my life at Radha Kunda in Sridhama Vrndavana, chanting the sweet Holy Names of Sri Krishna, with the hope of someday attaining the most cherished goal of Radha-Krishna prema, pure love of God.
    In closing, I want to take this opportunity to humbly beg forgiveness from any Vaisnava whom I may have offended during this most difficult time of my life. Also, I want to it to be clearly understood that I will always love and serve my eternal Gurudeva Srila Prabhupada, and maintain the deepest respect and gratitude toward ISKCON and all the devotees.
    And if Bhagavan Sri Krishna blesses me, then in the future I may receive the good fortune to render a little service for the pleasure of the Vaisnavas.
    Jai Jai Sri Radhe!
    Vaisnavadasanudasa,
    mahanidhi swami august 13, 2013

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  13. isckon, the 14ª sahaja sampradaya

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  14. First Of all I don't know your name but you are a rascal, because you don't have respect for vaishnavas...Like Shripad Anant Das Baba Ji Maharaj, Sri Ramesh baba ji, Vinod Baba ji,Krishna Das Baba Ji etc.

    You don't have any right to say or wright any thing about any sampradaya. Firstly you have to go Vraja and do some shodh karya on your own parampara which is all ready broken. You cheep ritwiks, You will go to hell,and your so called guru Shrila Prabhupada will not save or protect you at any cost.......

    Shut your dirty mouth.......

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    1. R.I.P English language, lols

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    2. My friend... we know nothing... we think from our own ignorance. cockroaches in the kings throne trying to understand the kings thoughts, emotions and responsabilities. If my brother felt down I will give my hand to him to help him stand up. Even lord Brahma felldown.
      No offense to any Guru, any sampradaya. Religious life is hard, so much materialism, so much bad in this times. Let us all learn who we are, and where we are at, and do not criticize the ones on a different platform. We are all mad dogs, trying to find the tender hand of our master. Radhe Radhe!

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  15. The GBC gurus are not bona fide, they support the worship of illicit sex as acharyas, and then these gurus in India support and shelter them, and claim they are able to get rasika. Sorry, the bogus GBC gurus are being supported by these gurus in India, and worse, they are juxtaposing the GBC's illicit sex acharyas with rasika. That is what takes people to hell, mixing illixit sex and rasika, says shastra. We are not doing that, so we are not the ones going to hell. ys pd

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  16. please kindly remind yourself the first offene against the holy name.. lets krsna decide the fate, you please donot criticise anyone, as told by caitanya mahaprabhu,. otherwise all of us will meet the same fate, born again. so, always glorify,...

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  17. This letter should be spread to all over the ISKCON , Ritwik people only blaspheme the pure devotees .They chant 24 hour the blasphemy of Pure devotees they cant even control even their senses for a day and have guts to blaspheme the Gurus.

    PADA: What gurus are being blasphemed? I am not sure what your point is. ys pd

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  18. Let he/she who is without sin, cast the first stone....

    Bhakta Nobody

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  19. Gurus are not sinners, thats the first problem we have with your comment ... ys pd

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  20. No one knows whats inside anyone s heart. Let us worry about our personal relationship with the lord, and in that way we will learn how to relate to others. The answers for us morons is in UPADESAMRITA. For all of us to read until the letters fade away. With this very simple and slender book, we will not commit any aparada. And we will learn to respect all Vaisnavas. I ones read on Caitanya Caritamrta, that Lord Caitanya feels pain when a devotee offend another Vaisnava. "Quotation needed here" :) so I took that very personal. If we have time to be writing here, that means we have too much time for waist!!. My sweet lord I better go and find myself some scrubbing to do, or some pots to clean at my mindir. Radhe Radhe!

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