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[PADA: Danavir / Bhakti Vikas Swami and in sum, the entire GBC's process, have been promoting all kinds of "outside authorities" such as: Sridhara Maharaja, Narayana Maharaja, BV Puri, BP Puri, Fakir Mohan, and a number of sahajiya gurus from Radha Kunda etc., and then they say, no one else can follow "outside" authority or they cannot be in ISKCON.
That means, they are not in ISKCON themselves, since they are at the top of the list for "following outside authorities"? The GBC even admits recently that Mahanidhi has had "philosophical issues" -- such as following outside authorities, but despite knowing that, they did nothing about it for more than a decade.
Jayapataka has said, for years together, that he really following people like the Gaudiya Matha's "advisors," because they were co-writing position papers for Jayapataka and the GBC. And Jayapataka has advertised Gaudiya Matha's, Gaura Govinda Maharaja's and Banu swami's writings. And he still is?
And Banu's writings are apparently more important than Srila Prabhupada's writings. Banu swami says for example it is quite typical in the guru parampara from Krishna for the acharyas from Vaikuntha to be fallen i.e.: Womanizing drunkards, homosexuals, Las Vegas gamblers, people who run off with the wives of disciples, debauchees, drug addicts, people who advertise for using condoms for illicit sex, insane asylum refugees, people who run off to eat chicken, fish, meat and maybe even beef steaks, people who live in mansions while the deity lives in a ghetto, etc. and this is very typical of the behavior of acharyas in our parampara.
Gaura Govinda Maharaja even wrote a paper for Jayapataka in 1988 saying simply, that its quite common for gurus to be -- demons. Gaura Govinda Maharaja's people actually gave us his "gurus are sometimes demons" paper when I visited GGM.
Srila Prabhupada never said anything like that? They have accepted Banu swami as a higher authority than Srila Prabhupada? Of course any ten year old child in the USA knows that the guru is not a debauchee, what to speak of a demon, so even a ten year old USA child could defeat all these fools in an instant.
They are even promoting Mayavada gurus in ISKCON temples, including recently, a guru who says that Radharani is not even an actual person. So this is the first problem with the GBC, they make all kinds of "laws for ISKCON," and they are the first people to break these rules. Jayapataka was even sending a tantric ghost buster guru all over ISKCON, claiming this ghost buster's guru lineage is a big authority. So they make a rule, and then they say, everyone else has to follow their concocted rules, but they never follow this rule?
Is this why Jesus says, "Oh ye hypocrites, sons of vipers"? ys pd
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Murali: "Intimate siksa association is prohibited from non-ISKCON spiritual masters", yeah, the funny thing is that Iskcon "spiritual masters" like Indradyumna, BB Govinda, Sivarama, Mahanidhi, Sacinandana Swamis and many others ad infinitum, are taking siksa association from non-Iskcon spiritual masters. When the king makes the rules and he is the first one to break them, that is called Middle Age.
[PADA: Danavir / Bhakti Vikas Swami and in sum, the entire GBC's process, have been promoting all kinds of "outside authorities" such as: Sridhara Maharaja, Narayana Maharaja, BV Puri, BP Puri, Fakir Mohan, and a number of sahajiya gurus from Radha Kunda etc., and then they say, no one else can follow "outside" authority or they cannot be in ISKCON.
That means, they are not in ISKCON themselves, since they are at the top of the list for "following outside authorities"? The GBC even admits recently that Mahanidhi has had "philosophical issues" -- such as following outside authorities, but despite knowing that, they did nothing about it for more than a decade.
Jayapataka has said, for years together, that he really following people like the Gaudiya Matha's "advisors," because they were co-writing position papers for Jayapataka and the GBC. And Jayapataka has advertised Gaudiya Matha's, Gaura Govinda Maharaja's and Banu swami's writings. And he still is?
And Banu's writings are apparently more important than Srila Prabhupada's writings. Banu swami says for example it is quite typical in the guru parampara from Krishna for the acharyas from Vaikuntha to be fallen i.e.: Womanizing drunkards, homosexuals, Las Vegas gamblers, people who run off with the wives of disciples, debauchees, drug addicts, people who advertise for using condoms for illicit sex, insane asylum refugees, people who run off to eat chicken, fish, meat and maybe even beef steaks, people who live in mansions while the deity lives in a ghetto, etc. and this is very typical of the behavior of acharyas in our parampara.
Gaura Govinda Maharaja even wrote a paper for Jayapataka in 1988 saying simply, that its quite common for gurus to be -- demons. Gaura Govinda Maharaja's people actually gave us his "gurus are sometimes demons" paper when I visited GGM.
Srila Prabhupada never said anything like that? They have accepted Banu swami as a higher authority than Srila Prabhupada? Of course any ten year old child in the USA knows that the guru is not a debauchee, what to speak of a demon, so even a ten year old USA child could defeat all these fools in an instant.
They are even promoting Mayavada gurus in ISKCON temples, including recently, a guru who says that Radharani is not even an actual person. So this is the first problem with the GBC, they make all kinds of "laws for ISKCON," and they are the first people to break these rules. Jayapataka was even sending a tantric ghost buster guru all over ISKCON, claiming this ghost buster's guru lineage is a big authority. So they make a rule, and then they say, everyone else has to follow their concocted rules, but they never follow this rule?
Is this why Jesus says, "Oh ye hypocrites, sons of vipers"? ys pd
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Murali: "Intimate siksa association is prohibited from non-ISKCON spiritual masters", yeah, the funny thing is that Iskcon "spiritual masters" like Indradyumna, BB Govinda, Sivarama, Mahanidhi, Sacinandana Swamis and many others ad infinitum, are taking siksa association from non-Iskcon spiritual masters. When the king makes the rules and he is the first one to break them, that is called Middle Age.
Guru d: That's what I understood from the SPIRITUAL VISION of Srila Prabhupad recorded in his Transcendental Books ... Cc. Adi-lila > Adi 1.1.35: The Spiritual Masters - purport by HDG Srila Prabhupad: " It is imperative that a serious person accept a bona fide spiritual master in terms of the śāstric injunctions. SRI JIVA GOSWAMI ADVISES THAT ONE NOT ACCEPT A SPIRITUAL MASTER IN TERMS OF HEREDITARY OR CUSTOMARY SOCIAL AND ECCLESIASTICAL CONVENTIONS.
One should simply try to find a genuinely qualified spiritual master for actual advancement in spiritual understanding". In the light of this statement made by Srila Prabhupad i can boldly declare that the above quotted resolution of GBC regarding Guru issue is totaly Bhogus and without any shastric support and us such very detrimental to the development of true spiritual vision, expresed by Srila Prabhupad in his teachings and his books.
Nobody can claim to posses the Monopoly of Srila Prabhupad's teachings which are non different from the teachings of Gaudiya Vaishnava Acaryas. Gauranga Mahaprabhu's message are not Sectarian message at all and there are no question of discriminations in terms of material considerations regarding the cast creed and color or bellonging to particular institutions or some other social organization.
Instead of passing this kind of resolutions and wast their time GBC body will do better to open their minds and their hearts and sincerely appologize to the world wide comunity of devotees for misinterpreting the Srila Prabhupad's messagge and for abused their power and high position in Iskcon for promoting themselfs as Gurus and spiritual authorities of Iskcon, the position which actualy belongs only to His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupad - FOUNDER AND ACARYA OF ISKCON FOR ALL TIMES TO COME... May Srila Prabhupad always bless His sincere servants !
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