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Tuesday, March 8, 2011
Seattle Lord Chaitanya Festival flyer
http://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com/gpflyer2011.html
Seattle Festival Flyer
Seattle Festival Flyer
Saturday, March 5, 2011
Narayan Maharaja, Demigod or Demon?
http://iskcontruth.blogspot.com/2011/03/narayana-maharaj-demigod-or-demon.html
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Friday, March 4, 2011
Devotees getting "bad karma"?
Thanks prabhu, Yes, forgiveness is the quality of a devotee, except in our philosophy, a devotee sometimes has to oppose wrong headed ideas, as did all of the acharyas, they preached in opposition to many deviations from the Vedic teachings. Then again, Arjuna wanted to forgive his opponents and Krishna said, it is the duty of a devotee to oppose wrong doers. So forgive, but do not forget. Arjuna was also not getting bad karma, this is not the right idea, he was being wronged, a devotee does not get bad karma generally speaking, a devotee is generally wronged by wrong doers. This is not his "bad karma." ys pd
Nice Singing by Atmarama dasa (Sri Krishna Chaitanya)
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Thursday, March 3, 2011
Rare Video of Srila Prabhupada (Rome Italy 1974)
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Srila Bhaktisiddhanta's book: comments by Dhamaghosa dasa
Hare Krsna to all
Pranams
Glories to Prabhupada
We continue to read at breakfast time the book entitled "Brahmana and Vaisnava" by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaj. It is a most excellent treatise on the finer distinctions of bhakti and helps us understand more clearly, what went wrong with the Hare Krsna Movement.
Let me relay a few of his words below.....
"Those who traverse the descending process are qualified to reach the Absolute Truth. But since those who traverse the ascending process have accepted the external ascending path to reach the undisputed destination, they have become eager to minimize the glories of the Absolute Truth. As a result, even though they proudly advertise their faith in the Vedas, their actual intention is to disregard the Vedas. This is clearly understood...."
How many times have we seen clear distortions to the words and instructions over the past 35 years of Srila Prabhupada? Something as simple as offering bhoga is now totally the opposite to what he taught to us, in practically ALL of his temples! And this has all come about because certain leading devotees accept the ascending process of mental speculation instead of total acceptance of the descending process of words coming straight from Prabhupada himself. Srila Prabhupada once said the difference between the so called scientists and us is that we use the descending process and they use the ascending process. So these so called devotees have come under the spell of Maya and are now using her methods instead of her masters.
"Whenever the sages gave explanations on the Vedas that were contrary to the actual purport of the Vedas, differences in their respective realizations arose. On the ascending path, one sage attacks another sage and tries to establish his own opinion. In the descending path, however, there is no such outrage or drawback. The varieties that are perceived are all used in the service of the nondual Personality of Godhead; one does not become puffed up or averse to Hari...."
When one loses perception and rememberance of his eternal position, namely being a humble servant of his spiritual master, he can no longer speak rightly because his speech is now dictated by Maya, not God or Guru. When this illusion takes over, one cant even perceive his present position since his original position has already been lost. Due to enviousness and an intense hankering for sense gratification these people are impelled by sinful desires to remove their own spiritual guide from his rightful position as sole Acarya of his own temples and they then concoct opinions which differ from their own spiritual masters. All this is due to offenses committed against him by refusing to obey his commands to us all. They have no respect, basically, due to excessive pride and envy of the exhalted position of a Paramahamsa pure devotee of the Lord.
And the proof they are wrong is that they continually contradict themselves and one another and have continued to do so-- for 34 years now.!!!
On the other hand the Prabhupadanugas have held fast to one conclusion since Prabhupada departed. That conclusion is this --He, Srila Prabhupada is the current, and living Acarya who is fully competent to deliver the entire world back to home back to Godhead thru his voluminous instructions, conversations, books, lectures and murti form. One definition of a bona fide guru (and devotee) is that he is brahma nistham--FIXED, he doesn't change his opinion year to year !!
"...Wherever respect for the spiritual master has been diminished, the ascending process , in the form of disobeying the spiritual master, has simply created a perverted mentality of vivarta vada, or the Mayavada theory of illusion, filled with pride and nourished by the four defects like committing mistakes and being illusioned. This diseased mentality eventually turns into a mine of licentiousness...."
Does this licentiousness need be explained here?? The massive falldowns, the crushing of thousands of devotees material and spiritual lives, the murder of devotees, the bad publicity, the breaking of even civil laws, what to speak of the overall degradation in the publics eyes of the once pure and powerful Hare Krsna Movement .This is all the result of disrespect for the pure Vaisnava Spiritual Master Srila Prabhupada.
"When persons who disregard the spiritual master try to understand the Vedic literatures through their evil attempts, differences of opinion automatically arise in their understanding. But if the sages give up their pride of seminal birth and become fixed in real knowledge by following the descending path, then their recitation of songs from the Sama veda will be non different from that of the Rg Veda. Those who are proud of seminal birth and whose bodily conception of life is very prominent are not qualified to hear the instructions of the spiritual master. When the sages subdue their material pride and live in a gurukula to study the Vedas they are able to comprehend the hearing and studying of the Vedas...."
Again here Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaj slams the inordinate pride of the smarta class of so called spiritualists. How many times have iskcon leaders been humbly approached by Prabhupadanugas for discussion of the ills of our movement, and then been spat upon, thrown out on the street, ridiculed and even tortured?? Is this the mentality of a sadhu, what to speak of a Vaisnava? Is this how Srila Prabhupada taught us to deal with each other?
"...The wordly or social, smrtis may please and bring auspiciousness to people, but they misguide those who traverse the descending path from their goal and cause their downfall....Those who have been permanently qualified in the kingdom of aversion to the Lord are alone incapable of attaching importance to the service of the Lord Hari, through wordly or Vedic performances..."
Car puja anyone?? How about some demi god worship along with Radha Krsna seva? Or how about having someone sing opera instead of Krsna kirtan in front of Radha Krsna? Some temples are operating bingo games for profit to the temple. Some "swamis" lend money, that was supposed to have been collected for the Deities, lend this same money to the temples Deities-- with interest !! God now needs to take out a loan !!
All this madness comes about when persons disregard the words and instructions of their own spiritual master. So these misleaders have destroyed the pure path of bhakti set out by Srila Prabhupada. These misleaders preach that car pujas will help you-- if your car has been blessed by some "priest". Yet in India, the land of puja, where has it ever become SAFE to drive along side of the millions of maniacs that have had their cars/ tongas/ rickshaws so "blessed"?
What to speak: this thing has never been even mentioned by Srila Prabhupada as a "service" to the Deities. This so called service is to the congregation only, thinking of yet another way to fill the temple coffers with ill gotten money.
The result of all this deception and illusion is that the actual path of bhakti has been obscured by madness and greed. Because these people put more importance upon things of this world, and not correct importance on the things of the spiritual world, Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaj states - "they misguide those who traverse the descending path from their goal and cause their downfall" .
Let us not be so fooled by this charlatans of Kali yuga by praying to Srila Prabhupada to keep us purely engaged at his holy lotus feet.
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das
Pranams
Glories to Prabhupada
We continue to read at breakfast time the book entitled "Brahmana and Vaisnava" by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaj. It is a most excellent treatise on the finer distinctions of bhakti and helps us understand more clearly, what went wrong with the Hare Krsna Movement.
Let me relay a few of his words below.....
"Those who traverse the descending process are qualified to reach the Absolute Truth. But since those who traverse the ascending process have accepted the external ascending path to reach the undisputed destination, they have become eager to minimize the glories of the Absolute Truth. As a result, even though they proudly advertise their faith in the Vedas, their actual intention is to disregard the Vedas. This is clearly understood...."
How many times have we seen clear distortions to the words and instructions over the past 35 years of Srila Prabhupada? Something as simple as offering bhoga is now totally the opposite to what he taught to us, in practically ALL of his temples! And this has all come about because certain leading devotees accept the ascending process of mental speculation instead of total acceptance of the descending process of words coming straight from Prabhupada himself. Srila Prabhupada once said the difference between the so called scientists and us is that we use the descending process and they use the ascending process. So these so called devotees have come under the spell of Maya and are now using her methods instead of her masters.
"Whenever the sages gave explanations on the Vedas that were contrary to the actual purport of the Vedas, differences in their respective realizations arose. On the ascending path, one sage attacks another sage and tries to establish his own opinion. In the descending path, however, there is no such outrage or drawback. The varieties that are perceived are all used in the service of the nondual Personality of Godhead; one does not become puffed up or averse to Hari...."
When one loses perception and rememberance of his eternal position, namely being a humble servant of his spiritual master, he can no longer speak rightly because his speech is now dictated by Maya, not God or Guru. When this illusion takes over, one cant even perceive his present position since his original position has already been lost. Due to enviousness and an intense hankering for sense gratification these people are impelled by sinful desires to remove their own spiritual guide from his rightful position as sole Acarya of his own temples and they then concoct opinions which differ from their own spiritual masters. All this is due to offenses committed against him by refusing to obey his commands to us all. They have no respect, basically, due to excessive pride and envy of the exhalted position of a Paramahamsa pure devotee of the Lord.
And the proof they are wrong is that they continually contradict themselves and one another and have continued to do so-- for 34 years now.!!!
On the other hand the Prabhupadanugas have held fast to one conclusion since Prabhupada departed. That conclusion is this --He, Srila Prabhupada is the current, and living Acarya who is fully competent to deliver the entire world back to home back to Godhead thru his voluminous instructions, conversations, books, lectures and murti form. One definition of a bona fide guru (and devotee) is that he is brahma nistham--FIXED, he doesn't change his opinion year to year !!
"...Wherever respect for the spiritual master has been diminished, the ascending process , in the form of disobeying the spiritual master, has simply created a perverted mentality of vivarta vada, or the Mayavada theory of illusion, filled with pride and nourished by the four defects like committing mistakes and being illusioned. This diseased mentality eventually turns into a mine of licentiousness...."
Does this licentiousness need be explained here?? The massive falldowns, the crushing of thousands of devotees material and spiritual lives, the murder of devotees, the bad publicity, the breaking of even civil laws, what to speak of the overall degradation in the publics eyes of the once pure and powerful Hare Krsna Movement .This is all the result of disrespect for the pure Vaisnava Spiritual Master Srila Prabhupada.
"When persons who disregard the spiritual master try to understand the Vedic literatures through their evil attempts, differences of opinion automatically arise in their understanding. But if the sages give up their pride of seminal birth and become fixed in real knowledge by following the descending path, then their recitation of songs from the Sama veda will be non different from that of the Rg Veda. Those who are proud of seminal birth and whose bodily conception of life is very prominent are not qualified to hear the instructions of the spiritual master. When the sages subdue their material pride and live in a gurukula to study the Vedas they are able to comprehend the hearing and studying of the Vedas...."
Again here Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaj slams the inordinate pride of the smarta class of so called spiritualists. How many times have iskcon leaders been humbly approached by Prabhupadanugas for discussion of the ills of our movement, and then been spat upon, thrown out on the street, ridiculed and even tortured?? Is this the mentality of a sadhu, what to speak of a Vaisnava? Is this how Srila Prabhupada taught us to deal with each other?
"...The wordly or social, smrtis may please and bring auspiciousness to people, but they misguide those who traverse the descending path from their goal and cause their downfall....Those who have been permanently qualified in the kingdom of aversion to the Lord are alone incapable of attaching importance to the service of the Lord Hari, through wordly or Vedic performances..."
Car puja anyone?? How about some demi god worship along with Radha Krsna seva? Or how about having someone sing opera instead of Krsna kirtan in front of Radha Krsna? Some temples are operating bingo games for profit to the temple. Some "swamis" lend money, that was supposed to have been collected for the Deities, lend this same money to the temples Deities-- with interest !! God now needs to take out a loan !!
All this madness comes about when persons disregard the words and instructions of their own spiritual master. So these misleaders have destroyed the pure path of bhakti set out by Srila Prabhupada. These misleaders preach that car pujas will help you-- if your car has been blessed by some "priest". Yet in India, the land of puja, where has it ever become SAFE to drive along side of the millions of maniacs that have had their cars/ tongas/ rickshaws so "blessed"?
What to speak: this thing has never been even mentioned by Srila Prabhupada as a "service" to the Deities. This so called service is to the congregation only, thinking of yet another way to fill the temple coffers with ill gotten money.
The result of all this deception and illusion is that the actual path of bhakti has been obscured by madness and greed. Because these people put more importance upon things of this world, and not correct importance on the things of the spiritual world, Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaj states - "they misguide those who traverse the descending path from their goal and cause their downfall" .
Let us not be so fooled by this charlatans of Kali yuga by praying to Srila Prabhupada to keep us purely engaged at his holy lotus feet.
Hare Krsna
Damaghosa das
Paramadvaita like to embrace young girls (see photos)
Dear Prabhus, It seems that not only Hrdayananda (Howard Resnick) likes to embrace young women, but so do his co-gurus from the Gaudiya Matha like Mr. Paramadvaita swami. This is not appropriate behavior for a sannyasa and guru, needless to say. This shows that at root, these cheaters are all on the same platform. There is also a story here about some poor devotee family being cheated out of their home and property with extremely violent tactics orchestrated by followers of the Gaudiya Matha, ok the same style of goonda-ism we see in ISKCON. These Gaudiya Matha gurus are the same as the GBC gurus, they just know how to put on a better act. But they are all cheaters. ys pd
http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/03-11/editorials7068.htm
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http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/03-11/editorials7068.htm
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Wednesday, March 2, 2011
Who is accepting the sins in ISKCON? (Wednesday March 2)
Dear Akruranatha prabhu, As expected, you still have given no explanation as to who accepts the sins in ISKCON? You did ramble on a bit on the GBC's sannyasa / guru administration program, forgetting that none of the previous acharyas were under the powers of an administration management team? The acharya speaks when Krishna dicatates, ooops, no, he speaks after the GBC votes and tells him what to speak?
It also seems there is a sort of College Of Cardinals program that votes in the Pope, since every year more gurus are voted in as well?
You claim that there is no "guru voting" in ISKCON? That means you are not even reading your own GBC's documents, their documents state that their gurus are to be "2/3 show of hands voted in," "voting" is not "voting"? And there are also "votes" to censure, monitor, remove and excommunicate gurus? More "voting," which you say, does not exist? I am amazed that you are not even reading their documents.
Then you claim there are no more "zonal" gurus, ok, if Ravindra swarupa dasa is not "the guru for Philadelphia," then who is? Why is his name given in recent GBC documents that he is the guru for that area (zone)? And Gopal Krishna is the guru for Delhi, again -- according to their own documents. I am amazed that you are not even studying their documents, let me refresh here, every year the GBC writes an annual report which gives guru's names and areas, i.e. zones, the zonal guru process is still going on, it was never halted.
I have a friend who is a retired airline pilot. I told him that Badrinaran says most of the GBC's 230 voted in gurus have "crashed and burned," so its like a really bad airline. I explained to him that out of their 230 gurus -- recently less than 80 sannyasas remained, at least so says recent GBC writings. He said if he worked for an airline that had only 80 flights land without crashing, out of 230 flights, and the rest of the flights "crashed and burned" we'd be out of business in two days, so he said, that these people continue on despite so much crashing and burning is a sign of severe cheating.
He says even in the material sense, no wonder hardly nobody accepts their program, 230 pure as God gurus who are mostly constantly crashing and burning, this is not a bona fide religious process. Even he was amazed at the failure rate of your pure devotee acharyas, actually he was laughing his head off, he could not belieive the silliness of you folks. In any case, it seems you are saying that the crashing and burning people are absorbing others sins, except the reason they are crashing is -- they cannot even absorb their own sins? You are going in a circle here. ys pd
It also seems there is a sort of College Of Cardinals program that votes in the Pope, since every year more gurus are voted in as well?
You claim that there is no "guru voting" in ISKCON? That means you are not even reading your own GBC's documents, their documents state that their gurus are to be "2/3 show of hands voted in," "voting" is not "voting"? And there are also "votes" to censure, monitor, remove and excommunicate gurus? More "voting," which you say, does not exist? I am amazed that you are not even reading their documents.
Then you claim there are no more "zonal" gurus, ok, if Ravindra swarupa dasa is not "the guru for Philadelphia," then who is? Why is his name given in recent GBC documents that he is the guru for that area (zone)? And Gopal Krishna is the guru for Delhi, again -- according to their own documents. I am amazed that you are not even studying their documents, let me refresh here, every year the GBC writes an annual report which gives guru's names and areas, i.e. zones, the zonal guru process is still going on, it was never halted.
I have a friend who is a retired airline pilot. I told him that Badrinaran says most of the GBC's 230 voted in gurus have "crashed and burned," so its like a really bad airline. I explained to him that out of their 230 gurus -- recently less than 80 sannyasas remained, at least so says recent GBC writings. He said if he worked for an airline that had only 80 flights land without crashing, out of 230 flights, and the rest of the flights "crashed and burned" we'd be out of business in two days, so he said, that these people continue on despite so much crashing and burning is a sign of severe cheating.
He says even in the material sense, no wonder hardly nobody accepts their program, 230 pure as God gurus who are mostly constantly crashing and burning, this is not a bona fide religious process. Even he was amazed at the failure rate of your pure devotee acharyas, actually he was laughing his head off, he could not belieive the silliness of you folks. In any case, it seems you are saying that the crashing and burning people are absorbing others sins, except the reason they are crashing is -- they cannot even absorb their own sins? You are going in a circle here. ys pd
Krishna Kanta and IRM attack Bangalore
RE: Recent IRM paper which attacks Bangalore for accepting the poison issue. See b-i-f.com for details on the poison issue. ys pd
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Dear Leal prabhu, We are not at all surprised to find that Krishna Kanta Desai is still in bed with the poisoners of pure devotees, lets face it, he loves them and he always has defended them from the get go. Naveen Krishna has for the past few years now been preaching about the poison case in Bangalore and he would know, his father Dr. Khurana was one of the Kavirajas attending Srila Prabhupada in 1977. Of course who cares for the testimony of the doctors, not the GBC and the IRM. They hate "the facts."
That is why the GBC and IRM always defends the the poisoners of pure devotees. The fact that Bangalore has accepted the poison issue and rejected poison lovers like KK is making KK go mad. Notice, as soon as someone starts to worship Srila Prabhupada, as they are doing in Bangalore, Radhanatha and Krishna Kanta join forces to start propaganda to stop the worship of the pure devotee, they both hate to see a pure devotee being worshipped. In any case, we are not worried, the acceptance of the poison case is growing, and people like Adridhanra writing documents to defend the GBC is not working, our idea is being accepted more and more daily. ys pd
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Dear Leal prabhu, We are not at all surprised to find that Krishna Kanta Desai is still in bed with the poisoners of pure devotees, lets face it, he loves them and he always has defended them from the get go. Naveen Krishna has for the past few years now been preaching about the poison case in Bangalore and he would know, his father Dr. Khurana was one of the Kavirajas attending Srila Prabhupada in 1977. Of course who cares for the testimony of the doctors, not the GBC and the IRM. They hate "the facts."
That is why the GBC and IRM always defends the the poisoners of pure devotees. The fact that Bangalore has accepted the poison issue and rejected poison lovers like KK is making KK go mad. Notice, as soon as someone starts to worship Srila Prabhupada, as they are doing in Bangalore, Radhanatha and Krishna Kanta join forces to start propaganda to stop the worship of the pure devotee, they both hate to see a pure devotee being worshipped. In any case, we are not worried, the acceptance of the poison case is growing, and people like Adridhanra writing documents to defend the GBC is not working, our idea is being accepted more and more daily. ys pd
Tuesday, March 1, 2011
Bala dasa ACBS supports the GBC guru system
OK so Balah supports the people who support the GBC guru system, which Jayadvaita swami wrote about in his paper "Where The Ritviks Are Right" wherein Jayadvaita wrote: that in ISKCON their gurus are prone to have "illicit sex with men, women and children." Sorry, but Srila Prabhupada says this is worse than animal behavior, it is not guru behavior. Where is the shastra to back up the idea that gurus engage in illicit sex and fall down left, right and center? Srila Prabhupada says it is the mad elephant offense to say gurus are falling like ordinary man. ys pd
South India Progress report (March 1st)
Dear Prabhus, We are making good progress not only in Bangalore, Vrndavan and Jaipur etc., recently our preachers / reporters travelling in Udipi and South India say that even ISKCON devotees and some of their temples are just worshipping Srila Prabhupada, especially in their homes, and Srila Prahbupada is the person they want to worship. Our idea is working, whether people like it or not. They were invited to some homes where people only have photos of Srila Prabhupada on their altars, just as we do. So our idea is catching on!
And when they tell ordinary citizens in South India that the GBC program is openly preaching that "acharyas fall down into illicit sex, homosexuality, drugs and crimes," people's jaws literally drop down to their chest and their eyes bug out, they cannot believe anyone would openly preach that Lord Krishna's successors and acharyas are falling into illicit sex and so on, because they have the greatest respect for acharyas like Ramanjuacarya, Madhavacarya, The Goswamis, Lord Caitanya, and so on. So we are making good headway there! These people are agreeing with us, you need to worship a pure devotee and not people who are falling down left, right and center. ys pd
And when they tell ordinary citizens in South India that the GBC program is openly preaching that "acharyas fall down into illicit sex, homosexuality, drugs and crimes," people's jaws literally drop down to their chest and their eyes bug out, they cannot believe anyone would openly preach that Lord Krishna's successors and acharyas are falling into illicit sex and so on, because they have the greatest respect for acharyas like Ramanjuacarya, Madhavacarya, The Goswamis, Lord Caitanya, and so on. So we are making good headway there! These people are agreeing with us, you need to worship a pure devotee and not people who are falling down left, right and center. ys pd
What is the siddhanta of Balah dasa?
Ok well first of all we need to know what is the actual siddhanta of Balah, i.e. is he a supporter of the "relativised acharya" program, before we can discuss shastra or anything else with him. We asked him: does he supports the GBC guru system of -- gurus being voted in, voted out, suspended, excommunicated, censured, crashing and burning and so forth, and he apparently does not know what he supports or does not support, he cannot answer this simple basic question. So this is a very simple basic point, does Balah support our idea, that acharyas do not fall down and crash and burn etc., or does he support the GBC guru process of gurus falling down left, right and center? And if he does not know the answer, that itself is an answer. As for shastra, there is a ton of shastra that says gurus do not fall down, gurusuh narah matih narakah sah etc. ys pd
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