Mahashakti Dasa (Los Angeles Prabhupada Festival) 08 10 26

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MAHASHAKTI DASA (Los Angeles)

Mahashakti dasa: 

SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer officer for the GBC's Auschwitz for kids project. Currently the leader of the Los Angeles "Prabhupada Festival" charade.  

PADA: OK this Mahashakti fellow is saying the ritvik idea -- of having priests promote the pure devotee Srila Prabhupada -- is completely crazy! Because! It has not ever been done before in Vaishnava culture. OK so worshiping pure devotees has never been done before in Vedic history. What has been done instead? 

I forgot, the GBC is promoting worshiping their conditioned souls as gurus -- who are often as not fallen -- and in various cases have been -- engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children. And that is what has been done in Vedic culture for eternal time immemorial in Krishna's guru lineage. PADA just never knew that! Our poor fund of knowledge! The guru is a person who has seen the truth, and the truth is, the guru will chase men, women and children for their lusty escapades! 

Rather oddly Mahashakti is proud of not being in animal life, but Sulochana said even dogs are not "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children. And that means these GBC folks are not advanced enough to worship a dog." Sulochana also said these people are not advanced enough to worship a bucket of dog manure, because dog manure will not ban, beat, molest and kill Vaishnavas. He said it will take them hundreds of lives to be advanced enough to worship a dog's poop. 

Yep the ritviks have the completely crazy idea that the acharyas must be pure devotees, and not -- homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks, deviants, porno swamis etc. And Mahashakti says we cannot preach to the new people or we will contaminate them .... ummm, by telling them that deviants are not acharyas?

   
AD: Mahashakti's friend is Mayesvara, who has said before is "Prabhupada murti on his altar in the Ojai temple is a statue he keeps to solely remember the past and that Srila Prabhupada is dead and gone." Is Srila Prabhupada's murti, that we decorate and bow to every day just a dead and gone statue that we officially bow to? Is Mahashakti holding the Prabhupada Festival to worship a dead and gone idol?

Then, Mahashakti claims that the problem is sadhana, but if he has come to the conclusion that Prabhupada is just a dead statue, a token of the past, doesn't this point to lack of sadhana or that it's not ineffective? 

PADA: They made a big special Vyasa type seat for Auschwitz for kids camp leader Jayapataka at the "Prabhupada Festival" when I was there 1997. And many of the temple people were his disciples. And they have had JPS photo on the altar there when I was there and probably still do now. 

I think when people like Mahashakti refer to their living spiritual master -- they are making a reference to these people like Jayapataka. And when I was doing the lawsuit, Jayapataka was screaming and yelling at me on Watseka. Mayesvara? He was helping the GBC's lawyers as an advisor, OK they really could not stand PADA's ideas whatever! 

Also Patrikananda was on hand at the festival, telling me "You are using bad language and no one takes you seriously." Which is why he was crying about the $400,000,000 lawsuit, which is not a serious issue.  Ummm, $400M is not a serious problem? What is an actual problem for these jokers?

AD: There's no seat for Jayapataka Swami at the Prabhupada festival nowadays. His image is not allowed on the altar either. They have portable piece of marble, and the pujari disciple may put a small picture of JPS on it while they are offering artik and then it must be removed from the altar area. However, when they do have a big initiation festival for JPS in LA, in the last few years, it's a big event. Very flamboyant and it lasts maybe 3 days or more. 

He's much more important than Srila Prabhupada to ISKCON LA. That's a fact. But, JPS worship doesn't interfere with the Prabhupada Festival at least directly. 

PADA: Well my point is, when they say you need a living person, that person is JPS or maybe Hrdayananda, also the Los Angeles playboy acharya. JPS is the living person IMHO. Maybe for the Prabhupada festival JPS is placed on the back burner temporary basis, but all the rest of the time it is him and his disciples running things there. 

AD: I am only asking Mahashakti to define who the living guru is. He won't say. He's quiet. He has no answer. He knows no one is a self-realized soul, who's seeing Krsna. He's bluffing. It doesn't say anywhere in Srila Prabhupada's books that I am aware of, that the guru must be living. With a physical body.

He's basically admitting to atheism. He doesn't accept Srila Prabhupada's deity as Srila Prabhupada. He's bowing down to an idol, and he's running the Prabhupada Festival! Just going through the motions to increase cash flow. The money is obviously not there in the current Prabhupada Festival, so it's on to guru next.

PADA: Yes we often corner them by asking -- who is the living person, and nowadays, they are reluctant to answer because all their GBC guru options are bad. Even Mahanidhi swami said the GBC gurus are all bad, then he was having sex with a married woman who has grown kids ... they really flop when they have to name their alleged living person. Or sometimes they make a big deal of the  guru person who has supposedly rejected the GBC, and is a better option. But those guys end up looking compromised. 

AD: There only answer, as you have said many times is - no one. No one is your guru. Better to have no one, than to have Srila Prabhupada. 

PADA: Wow. Mahashakti is saying that the Bhagavad Gita idea of accepting a guru WHO HAS SEEN THE TRUTH applies to ISKCON. So when people are surrendering to the GBC's homosexual and pedophile messiahs project, that is what Krishna in the Gita refers to? Worse, he says the ritviks are spreading poison -- ummm -- because they are not promoting homosexuals and pedophiles etc. as Krishna's successors? 

It is amazing to me how so many devotees have told me that worshiping the GBC's pedophile guru lineage is what the Gita refers to. Then Mahashakti says that those of us absorbed in "the past" are still thinking of the zonal gurus era. OK except Jayapataka has been the Zonal guru of his Mayapur Zone the whole time because, they still have Zones? It is not a past deviation. 

Yup! The zonal guru program is not in the past. But the deviants of the original Zonal guru era are ALSO the SAME people who 2/3 show of hands voted in the next wave of CURRENT gurus. How can a homosexual and pedophile guru process vote in more gurus? OK! The 11 original gurus deviated and blooped, but then they voted in more gurus just before they blooped! 

I was heavily confronted once by Mula Prakriti Dasi (Gopa Vrndapal's wife) who said I was "trying to turn ISKCON into a Nuremburg Trial." Well yep, the people who orchestrated Auschwitz should be placed on trial, that is common sense. Or they will be on Nuremburg trial in Yamaraja's court later on, so better to hold one here. 

One of the children Mula was preaching to said, Mula Prakriti was telling us kids to take initiation from Satsvarupa, who was taking tranquilizing psychotropic drugs while he was stooping his therapist. She clearly has no idea who is Krishna's guru successor, and she MISLEAD us children away from worshiping Srila Prabhupada. So that is what these Mahashakti / Mula Prakriti folks are doing, misdirecting people's worship AWAY from the acharya. While Mahashakti is in charge of Prabhupada's festival?   

MAHASHAKTI DASA

Prabhupada's Books

Recently a devotee unfriended me on FB because I challenged his views on the origin of the jiva. He is a staunch fall-vadi, meaning he believes that the jiva originated and fell from Goloka Vrndavana. This devotee is well read and intellectual. He has written books and teaches other devotees the books of our spiritual master, Srila Prabhupada. 

His method is to educate according to what Srila Prabhupada has written and if there is a discrepancy, he tries to prove the discrepancy with novel ideas. He only refers to other Acharyas when necessary and does not use their writings to support his logical conclusions. 

While he accuses me of cherry picking Prabhupada's statements, he does the exact thing repeatedly. Fall-vadis believe that we are too fallen to understand the books and teachings of our previous Acharyas so we should exclusively stick to what Srila Prabhupada has written. 

If there is a discrepancy, they say, just learn to live with it and Krsna will give guidance. Fall-vadis feel they are true to Srila Prabhupada and others, such as the no-fall vadis, are pasandis or offenders.

To be a fall-vadi is sort of like wearing a badge of honor that says, " I am able to accept any discrepancies in Prabhupada's books." It is this rare ability they possess that allows them to turn off their rational mind and think irrationally. 

Acceptance of opposing statements by Srila Prabhupada does not require further inspection. When Prabhupada says that we were sporting with Krsna prior to entering the material world and then also says the conclusion is, no one falls from Vaikuntha, not even a leaf, the fall-vadis patch both statements together with dream logic, insinuating that we are currently still in Goloka in a dream state, dreaming we are in the material world. 

Nevermind neither Prabhupada says that or Lord Krsna or any other Acharya. The fall-vadis have given themselves a free pass to interpret the statements of Srila Prabhupada that best support opposing conclusions.

Let us for a moment imagine giving a Bhagavad Gita to someone and when asked about the origin of the soul, we say that the soul fell from Goloka. Now this individual goes home and reads the Bhagavad Gita As It Is and Lord Krsna never mentions anything about the soul originating in Goloka. In fact, Krsna says that having gone Back to Godhead, the soul does not return to this world of birth and death. So this individual is confused.

Similarly, all of our ISKCON devotees read Bhagavad Gita daily and they read the very same thing, that once having gone there, the pure devotees do not return. So how then could we have fallen from a place no one falls from?

When asked, our ISKCON authorities and teachers are duty bound to state that we did fall from Goloka and everything will be revealed one day if you just keep on chanting Hare Krsna. It is not necessary to read other Acharya's books to better understand this subject because Prabhupada has given us everything. 

Even though Srila Bhaktisiddhanta and Srila Bhaktivinode having differing views, devotees in ISKCON are taught that what Srila Prabhupada says is final. In this way, ISKCON devotees are purposely being indoctrinated into Gaudiya Vaishnava siddhanta differently than any other Vaishnava Organization.

I imagine there are many leaders who feel differently about this subject but can't publicly say anything. The problem is, the rank and file devotees are utterly confused by this discrepancy and it is causing great dissension.

Just as this one ex FB friend who unfriended me, if you do not accept the fall-vadi conclusion, a devotee may worry that he will be asked to leave ISKCON or not be allowed to speak in the Temple, etc. But it goes deeper. Must a loyal ISKCON member refrain from using his intelligence and depend fully on the GBC for guidance? 

PADA: Oh this is swell. The GBC guys are gurus, in personal touch with Krishna, as described in the Bhagavad Gita. Which means they are purely representing Krishna. But you would be very stupid and idiotic to depend on anything these GBC gurus have to say! 

Yeah you better use your independent intelligence and reject and TOSS OUT what our own gurus have to say! You must surrender to one of our gurus, but do not be such a stupid person as to listen to them! WTF?

And which Mahashakti "guru" said we do not fall from Vaikuntha? Narayan Maharaja, who was in Texas boosting Tamal when we were in Texas having Tamal sued for the mass child abuse. Why is Mahashakti citing Tamal's homosexual and pedophile guru lineage cheer leader, on any topic? 

But notice, he is arguing with himself: we must accept what these GBC gurus say -- and not accept what they say -- all at the same time. Then he makes pretend he wonders why people are confused? You must listen, you cannot listen, this is hypocrisy.  

MD: Is this how we are training our community of devotees to think?

If ISKCON does not teach it's members how to correctly deal with sastric discrepancies or misunderstandings, then the path of true and deeper understanding becomes halted. How then will they become Krsna Conscious? Krsna Consciousness, when properly understood, fosters a positive change in character. It naturally promotes fraternity, love and caring among it's members. 

PADA: You mean love and caring -- such as telling little children to worship homosexuals and pedophiles guru lineage as their messiahs? And become a member of the GBC's anal reconstructive surgery epidemic club? We are a caring people, so anyone who says Srila Prabhupada is correct that we originated in Vaikuntha is bogus, which means, Srila Prabhupada is bogus. And we will ban you from ISKCON for citing Srila Prabhupada!

MD: Selfless service to God and others is the natural outcome. How many times have we heard that devotees can be callous, cold or impersonal? This is a result of spiritual unfulfillment. We should want our members to become Krsna Conscious and that requires the correct understanding of the sastra.

ISKCON should be leading the world in devotional relationships. Instead, we see quasi spiritual groups taking the lead and it is painful to see. We are the only group in the world who promotes exclusive devotion to Lord Krsna. We are properly situated. If only we could truly appreciate what we have. 

We need to go beyond the kanistha adhikara stage to at least the madhyam or second class stage. A second class devotee actually knows the sastra. His faith is unbreakable because he has no doubts. The words of Lord Krsna are as clear as day. There are no discrepancies. Srila Prabhupada did not intend for there to be any discrepancies in his books. I believe some of his followers created all of the confusion. Let's correct those misunderstandings.

Hare Krsna!

PADA: Well yep, when we were in Mayapur some devotees cried to Srila Prabhupada that the Gaudiya Math God Brother people are complaining that Srila Prabhupada's "Back to Godhead" is bogus because we never were with Godhead. And so Srila Prabhupada is bogus. 

Srila Prabhupada told us, my God brothers do not know we were all once with Krishna because THEY ARE TINGED WITH MAYAVADA. So in addition to promoting the GBC's pedophile messiahs project, it looks like Mahashakti is a full on another Gaudiya Matha mayavada preacher. 

As one newer devotee asked PADA recently, why are these falling down acharya people who have mayavada ideas the only people allowed to preach in ISKCON? Why isn't PADA allowed to preach there? Well I think the reasons are self evident, it is corrupt, it is a pedophile messiah's project, it has mayavada undertones and etc. But yeah, Mahashakti does not even know what "Back to Godhead" means, never mind more intricate siddhanta.

And ISKCON has these mega heavy duty temple thug bouncers like Mahashakti who will heavy you out the door for objecting to all their nonsense. OK yeah, it looks like it is a violent pedophile guru cult, as some have suggested. No wonder most of the people coming to ISKCON nowadays are spaced out Hindus who often eat meat and worship Vivekananda. And Mayesvara's pal Giriraj was getting oral s*x service in the temple from a female disciples, so they sent him to India to fool the Hindus over there that he is a pure devotee. 

There are a bunch of Hindus working the local Gas Station here, and they are always frying chickens, making beef and salami sandwiches, and who knows what else. They are not good candidates for higher spiritual teaching.

There is no longer any proper siddhanta being preached in ISKCON. In any case, the Auschwitz for kids messiah's project's program's members and apologists are the lowest of mankind in our not so humble opinion, and they will have a special place in Hades, that is PADA's understanding of the siddhanta. 

There is an updated report on the Vrndavana gurukula abuse, and it does not look good folks. These people are the worst, and Patrikananda is worried about my bad language -- and not the suffering of the children victims. The good news for them is that the SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer officers are often made into the next wave of acharyas in this group, so maybe Mahashakti will be elevated as one of them.

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