Narayan Maharaj Defeats: Himself?

PADA: Yep! Anyone who does not help Tamal's illicit sex acharya's program --

And who worships pure devotees and not debauchees -- must be avoided!

Narayan Maharaja: “In our line there is guru, there is śikṣā-guru, there is caitya-guru, there is śravaṇa-guru, there is patha-pradarśaka-guru - so many gurus. Why go to these bogus ṛtviks? 

[PADA: The "ritviks" are brahmanas (priests) and / or neophyte laymen who are not yet acharyas, so they are preaching on behalf of the acharyas. Why should we "avoid" the people who are preaching about Krishna? He never explains.

All of Srila Prabhupada's devotees were doing that type preaching already the whole time, and that is the process he established. The "patha-pradasaka guru" (one who shows the path) would ALSO be in this category, an agent, a person who is preaching on behalf of the acharya. 

Wait! Narayan Maharaja says there is a patha-pradarsaka guru (a ritvik or a representative) but then -- there is not such thing as the patha-pradarsaka guru? He is arguing with himself.  

In 1984 Narayan Maharaja was helping the ISKCON GBC's Satsvarupa write "The Guru Reform Notebook," which establishes that acharyas are often debauchees, drunks, sexual predators -- and even criminals. And as such, Krishna's successors and acharyas need to be "reformed" for being drunk, disorderly, sexual predators and other similar deviations. OK so we should avoid the people who say pure devotees are pure and are not deviants (the ritviks), and we should instead promote the people who say acharyas are often fallen, and even sexual predators, criminals and sahajiyas etc.?

Why does Narayan Maharaja help the ISKCON GBC ghost write bogus "Guru Reform" pamphlets, and he becomes the hand maiden of the party that says acharyas are often debauchees -- and that acharyas need to often be reformed for deviations; AND we should avoid anyone who says acharyas are not reform school deviants? And at the same time, the GBC / NM "Guru Reform" process was establishing that the first wave of gurus (i.e. the drunk and disorderly and debauchee class etc.) should "2/3 show of hands" vote in more gurus. 

*** Narayan Maharaja has never explained what is a deviant acharya who needs to be "reformed" for deviations? Where is his guru reform process mentioned in shastra? 

*** And why would Narayan Maharaja want assorted debauchees / or their cheer leaders to vote in more acharyas, in the first place? Why would any bona fide acharya even want "the votes" of debauchee guru programs in the first place? 

*** And which previous acharyas were debauchees who needed reform? Etc.!]     

NM: Be very far away from them. Be careful about them. We should be very careful about māyāvādīs, sahajiyās, and all nirviśeṣavādīs. You know that in our guru-paramparā line Brahmā has never fallen down, Nārada has never fallen down, and Śrī Vyāsa and Śrī Śukadeva Gosvāmī have also never fallen down. 

[PADA: Wait? You are supporting the GBC's gurus like Tamal, and their acharyas are falling down left, right and center? Gurus never fall down? And that is why you were helping Satsvarupa with their guru reform process? Now you are saying that none of the acharyas EVER fall down, after saying the acharyas fall down and need reform? And NM was always hanging out with Tamal, and the other leaders of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru party. He is arguing with himself!]

You know Mādhavendra Purī and Īśvara Purīpāda; they never fell down. You know that Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī, Śrīla Sanātana Gosvāmī, Śrīla Jīva Gosvāmī and all the other six gosvāmīs, Śrīla Kṛṣṇadāsa Kavirāja Gosvāmī, Śrīla Narottama Dāsa Ṭhākura, and after that Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura, Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, Śrīla Prabhupāda Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī, my Gurudeva Oṁ Viṣṇupāda Śrī Śrīmad Bhakti Prajñāna Keśava Gosvāmī Mahārāja, and my śikṣā-guru Śrīla [A.C.] Bhaktivedānta Svāmī Mahārāja - none of them ever fell down. They cannot fall down. They are actual gurus. One should select a guru like them. However, even if you have not as yet done so, you can think about it more and more.”

[PADA: Yes, but as soon as someone selects a guru of this category, then NM says they are bogus ritviks? So -- we should ONLY worship a pure devotee, but as soon as anyone worships a pure devotee, he is a bogus ritvik? And instead we should associate with and promote GBC folks like Tamal and his illicit sex with men, women and children acharyas program. 

This is called hypocrisy. OK Narayan Maharaja has no idea what he is talking about, gurus do not fall down, but anyone who says gurus do not fall down should be avoided because they are bogus. We should help Tamal and his illicit sex with men, women and children acharya's program. 

OK really? Say what? 

ys pd]

—Paramgurudeva Śrī Śrīmad Bhaktivedānta Nārāyaṇa Gosvāmī Mahārajā. July 30, 2000. Moscow