Sunday, January 7, 2018

Who will be the next Mormon Prophet? (satire)

http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/kirby/2018/01/07/kirby-if-god-picks-me-to-be-the-next-mormon-prophet-heres-what-i-will-do/

[PADA: Yep, this guy is writing a satire on the issue. Yet the Mormons are apparently in the process of selecting their next prophet. We wish them well, but for us conditioned beings to be selecting the next prophet does not always end well. That is because its generally (always!) the job of God to select His  prophets. 

And when us conditioned beings try to take up that task, there is plenty of room for error. 

This writer alludes to this point herein, maybe God will select someone else to be the prophet, and that prophet might not be the same person the council selects. That means: God has the actual exclusive authority to select / empower His own prophets -- and no one else. Correct! Just look at the line of bogus folks the ISKCON GBC "selects" to be their "God's successors" prophets, quite often -- debauchees and deviants. Hmmm, maybe its better to leave this job to the higher authority. 

Mind you, the Mormons we see are very nice people and they have a loving and caring society which looks after the vulnerable members and so on, and we could learn a lot from them how to make a functioning social infrastructure. However, when it comes to selecting the prophet, we all might do better to leave that to a higher source. 

ys pd]   

Friday, January 5, 2018

Hari Sauri Resigns



Hari Sauri / aka Denis Harrison

[PADA: Hari Sauri has dedicated almost all of his entire human life to helping the GBC establish their "illicit sex with men, women and children guru successors to God" guru lineage, and their "debauchees form a parampara chain from Vaikuntha" process. As Sulochana says, since even dogs are not engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, that means Hari Sauri is not even advanced enough to establish the worship of a dog. Rather HS establishes less than dogs as his worshiped messiahs "chain of gurus." 

Sulochana also said that Hari Sauri's guru program will maybe assassinate us, whereas a dog will lick us and befriend us. So Hari's Sauri's guru parampara is actually more deadly for the Vaishnavas than a dog. Again, way less advanced than dogs! Sulochana is right, dogs will not harm us, rather dogs will lick and befriend the Vaishnavas, while the Hari Sauri guru parampara can kill us, and did kill some of us.  

The good news is that eventually Hari Sauri will be going to a planet where they worship what he wants to have worshiped. There he will find a planet where the messiahs are just like what he wants to establish as worshipable, like debauchees, sexual predators, drunkards, fools, tyrants, drug addicts, deviants, criminals and -- gurus who are less than dogs, where he will be in heaven! He will find his home! 

Now he is handing off his "library project" to a big disciple of Radhanath swami, the "guru" who has buried a known pedophile in the holy dham. Yep, as soon as Hari Sauri finds people who bow down and worship apparent pedophiles in the holy dham, he falls off his seat and offers his prostrated obeisances. He has found his respected authority! Hari Sauri has been a big figure in the Mayapura program, where many ex-kuli victims report that abuse was going on under the watchful eye of these -- "managers." Did we forget to mention, many folks believe Radhanath is connected to the murder of Sulochana? 

Great, also working with Dayarama, a Jayapataka henchman who at least admits to me that the GBC is promoting homosexuals and other deviants as their acharyas. 

Did we forget to mention? 

Srila Prabhupada told us that we neophytes cannot take the post of diksha guru, because we will be taking sins that will cause us to get sick, fall down, or both. Yet! Right after Srila Prabhupada established that we are forbidden to be diksha gurus ... Hari Sauri launched a huge campaign to encourage the ISKCON neophytes to -- be diksha gurus. Yep, and then Hari Sauri's "gurus" started to get sick, fall down, and die prematurely from taking sins of their followers. In sum, Hari Sauri caused his own brothers to fall down, get sick and die prematurely.


Followed Hari Sauri's advice to be a diksha guru. 
How is that working out?




The Hari Sauri Guru parampara


By Pushti Devi Dasi

The Bhaktivedanta Research Centre (BRC) was formed in 2009 by His Grace Hari Sauri Prabhu as managing co-director along with His Grace Pranava Prabhu as academic co-director. It is located in Kolkata and is primarily a resource of Vedic & Vaisnava Literature which is open to all researchers, scholars & students. BRC houses rare collections of manuscripts, journals & books.

Since 2009, under guidance of His Grace Hari Sauri Prabhu & His Grace Pranava Prabhu, BRC has been has been on several manuscript retrieving missions, preservation process, translating & editing, collecting & displaying rare literature from the time of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Goswami 1904, Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur from 1866 & a hand-written manuscript on handmade paper of Sri Chaitanya Charitamrita dated back to 1780.

At present, after 9 years of building a strong foundation with his relentless efforts, His Grace Hari Sauri Prabhu, has decided to resign from active duty pertaining to his ill health. We, the BRC team, would like to thank him for his unconditional support, motivation & guidance for this unique & wonderful project. We wish him speedy recovery.

Please find below his letter of resignation:

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January 2, 2018

Dear Maharajas and Prabhus,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

I am writing to inform you of some important changes in the management of the Bhaktivedanta Research Centre (BRC) in Kolkata. As you know the BRC has for the last nine years emerged as one of the most important projects

in ISKCON, and indeed in the Vaisnava community as a whole, by collecting and preserving important historical documents of our Gaudiya Vaisnava lineage.
I have had the privilege of serving as the managing co-director along with our academic co-director Pranava Prabhu.

Most of you will know that in recent years my health has gradually been seriously affected by Parkinson’s disease which is ongoing. It has now progressed to the point where I feel I can no longer function effectively enough to fulfil the requirements of the service. I beg to inform you therefore that as of Gaura Purnima, March 2nd, 2018 I shall retire from active service at the BRC.

During the last few months I have been working with Pranava and others to insure that the project continues effectively up to the high standards we have already established, and indeed will continue to expand its services. I am pleased to inform you that Sriman Gauranga das brahmacari from Chowpatty, a leading disciple of His Holiness Radhanatha Swami, has agreed to take up the service as the new Administrative Director of the BRC.

Those of you who know Gauranga Prabhu know him to be a highly intelligent and capable manager who will insure the integrity of the BRC operation to the best possible standard. Gauranga Prabhu is currently organizing a team to carry out all the functions at the BRC along with the existing staff. So I am very optimistic of a smooth transition.

The regular work of the BRC in acquiring and preserving our literary heritage will continue on. For example just three weeks ago our library field team was successful in acquiring from the West Bengal State Archives the government work-records of Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur from 1866 to 1892.

At the same time there are some important new developments to expand the BRC’s functions. A new trust has been formed with myself, Gauranga Prabhu, Doyaram Prabhu and Sriman Sumanta Rudra PhD. as the founding trustees. News of further developments will be made available from time to time.

Needless to say, BRC will continue to depend upon the generosity and support of our donors. Many of you have generously contributed to our membership program and my sincere request is that you continue to do so with full enthusiasm and confidence. We are entering into a new expanded era for the BRC and we can only do that with the generous support of the Vaisnava community.

Any inquiries as to how you can help the BRC are warmly welcomed and may be directed to His Grace Gauranga Prabhu – 


gaurangadas.in@gmail.com

Thank you once again for giving me your heartfelt support and the opportunity to serve you all.

Your humble servant

Hari Sauri das


BHAKTIVEDANTA RESEARCH CENTRE
110 A, MOTILAL NEHRU ROAD
KOLKATA 700 029
WEST BENGAL
INDIA
PHONE: +91 33 40656198 (Library)
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Website: www.brcindia.com

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IRM vs. Sundar Gopal (Singapore)

IRM (Krishna Kant)

Back To Prabhupada, Issue 54, Winter 2016/17

The previous article addresses the disciples of the guru hoaxers. We have also been asked about the position of disciples of Srila Prabhupada who support the guru hoax, even though they may not be guru hoaxers themselves.

Sincere service:

The request arose because our readers had directed us to statements made in a paper titled "IA77". The paper's compilation was guided by Singapore Temple President and Srila Prabhupada disciple, Sundar Gopal Dasa ("SG"). His history is that after the guru hoax began in 1978, he served under it. He took second initiation from guru hoaxer Hamsadutta, and then served as a Temple President under various GBCs, who were guru hoaxers. He stopped supporting the guru hoax in 1997 when he received The Final Order ("TFO") and his eyes were opened, and therefore GBC Resolution 303, 1999, sanctioned him for having accepted TFO stating he held "managerial or spiritual authority in ISKCON".

IA77 promotes him as having "spent more than four decades of his life in the sincere service of Srila Prabhupada". Yet, as just seen, 2 of these decades were spent supporting the guru hoax. Thus, if supporting the guru hoax is compatible with being in the "sincere service of Srila Prabhupada", then by extension the guru hoaxers themselves would also be engaging in "sincere service to Srila Prabhupada". Thus, by claiming this, IA77, which is supposed to oppose the guru hoax, contradicts its very aim.

[PADA: This is somewhat of a problem because we know a number of people in and around ISKCON who are externally serving the GBC's gurus, but inwardly they believe that Srila Prabhupada is their actual link to Krishna. This also happened at the time of Krishna, some people were externally serving Kamsa but internally they served Krishna. 

So we cannot make a blanket condemnation of all of the people inside the institution, since we cannot always know their inner feelings. We also know personally a number of people inside the inside the institution who accept our Prabhupadanuga idea, but for various reasons they remain inside the GBC's movement.]  

Disobedient disciples

The reality is that if one is a disciple of Srila Prabhupada, then the quotes in reference to the guru hoaxers, such as —

"First offense is guror avajna, defying the authority of guru. This is the first offense. So one who is offensive, how he can make advance in chanting? He cannot make. Then everything is finished in the beginning." 

(Srila Prabhupada Lecture, 4/7/74)

"If you become disobedient to guru, then your business is finished."

(Srila Prabhupada Lecture, 10/8/74) 

"If one is disobeying the spiritual master, he cannot remain in the pure status of life. He cannot be siksa-guru or anything else. He is finished, immediately."

(Srila Prabhupada Lecture, 4/7/74)

— apply just as equally to him if he supports the guru hoax, since he is also disobeying his guru's orders: to keep Srila Prabhupada as ISKCON's only diksa guru. Therefore, support of the guru hoax would not constitute being "in the sincere service of Srila Prabhupada", as IA77 claims about SG. Ironically, this fact is also accepted by IA77 itself, which states that serving under the guru hoax regime would actually constitute being "party to the offence", thereby leading IA77 to engage in a double contradiction.

[PADA: Right, we should ideally operate outside the GBC structure, if possible. That is the better alternate.] 

Two-tier caste system

The paper also states that SG:

"was initiated directly by Srila Prabhupada in January 1977".

It is claimed that SG was initiated "directly" by Srila Prabhupada because he became Srila Prabhupada's disciple during his physical presence. This implies that anyone accepting Srila Prabhupada as their diksa guru now would only be receiving "indirect" initiation. However, this two-tier "caste system" of devotees who have received "direct" and "indirect" initiations was not taught by Srila Prabhupada. Rather, it undermines the paper's supposed argument that Srila Prabhupada is everyone's diksa guru equally.

[PADA: Good. Everyone who worships Srila Prabhupada now should be considered as an equal disciple as the original pre-1977 disciples. Moreoever, many of the newer followers are doing better in their sadhana than a number of the "original disciples," many of whom went down hill spiritually especially after 1977.] 

Accepts hoaxer authority

The paper states that it will offer "sastric references" from the Srimad-Bhagavatam, but then it quotes many times from the Srimad-Bhagavatam translated by guru hoaxer HH Hridayananda Dasa Goswami ("HD") to make its arguments:

SB 10.44.10; 10.87.39; 11.2.42; 11.8.13; 11.17.33; 10.74.40; 11.2.46; 11.2.47;

And in the case of the last three verses listed above, Srila Prabhupada had actually also given translations for them by referring to them in the purports of his books. But even then the paper still preferred to quote the versions given by HD!

[PADA: Right, this is a good point, we should not quote the GBC's penned books as authoritative. PADA quotes them sometimes for reasons of exposing the faults of their statements, that is another thing.]

By elevating HD to a position of being on a par with — or as we saw in some cases, superior to — Srila Prabhupada in the matter of translating scripture, the paper defeats its supposed objective of opposing the guru hoax:

1) In BTP 51 article "The Unauthorised Cantos", we detailed how HD had completed the Bhagavatam cantos quoted by IA77 whilst being in the maya of the zonal-acarya guru hoax. HD had even written nonsense purports glorifying the other zonal acaryas. Yet, the paper believes this guru-hoax Bhagavatam is equivalent to Srila Prabhupada's Bhagavatam.

2) Srila Prabhupada states that translation of scripture must be done by one who is "very realised" (Room Conversation, 28/5/77). Thus, by accepting HD's translations as authoritative, the paper accepts he was "very realised", rather than a guru hoaxer.

3) The paper itself states that the guru hoaxers are "envious of Srila Prabhupada and should be neglected or disregarded". Thus, by relying on HD's translations, rather than neglecting and disregarding HD, the paper is not accepting that HD is a guru hoaxer.

While promoting the paper, its publishers had boasted that it contained "some never-before-added, compelling scriptural evidence". However, the only thing not seen before was "scriptural evidence" from a guru hoaxer, which those opposing the guru hoax would ‘never have added'.

Not Srila Prabhupada

The paper also claims that Srila Prabhupada stated:

"Your love for me will be shown by how you cooperate among yourselves after I have gone." "

Note the use of speech marks to indicate that it is presenting a direct verbatim quote from Srila Prabhupada. However, there is no such recorded quote from Srila Prabhupada. Rather, the first time this quote ever appears on record is from guru hoaxer HH Satsvarupa Dasa Goswami, in his 1981 Vyasa-puja offering. So, again IA77 accepts the authority of a guru hoaxer, rather than letting him be "neglected or disregarded".

Conclusion

Again, we have given examples of how the Prabhupada-Free Paradigm (PFP) leads even those opposing the guru hoax to unwittingly end up promoting it, in order to demonstrate just how dangerous it is. Therefore, we must only directly quote Srila Prabhupada and only state conclusions supported by his teachings.

[PADA: Correct, we cannot quote the GBC's literature as authoritative. We have had some problems with the Prahlad / HKC Jaipur types claiming that Sundar Gopal prabhu has the only factual realization of Srila Prabhupada's instructions. Evidently, he does not. 

Apparently Prahlad and one of his "lifetime brahmacari" counterparts are against some of the devotees who play guitars on their kirtans. And so we got a message from one of these people complaining that guitars are like "giant vaginas." And Prahlad and this guy also do not like PADA's contemporary music. Don't these guys have something else to do with their lives than seeing giant vaginas all over the planet? Hee hee! Similarly, we need to only listen to Sundar Gopal, he has the superior realization -- even over PADA -- but he has flaws in his source of citations?

At the same time, Sundar Gopal prabhu has been doing good service and preaching, and he should be encouraged in doing that. 

All of these problems have been created by a lack of communication among the various folks involved with this process. Often times certain people do not ever write to me, but they write about me, and thus they usually write wrong info because they never consulted with me. 

If Sundar Gopal wants to write papers on these topics, he should run them by some of us to double check the statements therein. Of course the same thing happened with the IRM, they wrote complaining about us, without consulting us. And the IRM thus made the wrong conclusions about: the books changes lawsuit, the child molesting lawsuit, the poison issue and so on. We are hoping that the various Prabhupadnauga groups will increase their communication in 2018 to avoid these contrary results. ys pd]  

Wednesday, January 3, 2018

Jayapataka's Immortality plan


Wanted to take karma against orders of Prabhupada

DD: Gauranga? He used to be like a big director in Mayapur, and everyone liked him but more and more the local Bengalis are running things now, so most of the Westerners are being siphoned off and sidelined from positions of authority .... nothing new really. Actually there's much more chanting of Hare Krishna going on around Mayapura even at these Sunday markets. Mostly its Russian Westerners here, not many others.

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PADA: A PADA friend recently coming back from Mayapura says that Jayapataka is getting "very paranoid" of Westerners these days. So he is trying to fill most of the prominent Mayapura positions with his "loyal Bengalis" (on salary?) before he departs, especially those who also have a solid link to the local police and government there. Right, most of the Westerners are not EVER going to worship the dead carcass of JPS, a founder father of the molester messiahs project, just like they are not flocking to worship the dead carcass' of Tamal, Kirtanananda, Jayatirtha or even Gaura Govinda maharaja. 


JPS is correct, at least on the count: The Westerners as a rule are not really interested in worshiping these fraudulent folks, dead or alive. So he desperately wants to establish his eternal samadhi project in Mayapura now, thinking that he will somehow live on forever in Mayapura by dint of having his carcass buried there. Ooops, shastra says -- once the soul is separated at the time of death from these JPS program type folks -- that orchestrates devotees being banned, beaten, molested and assassinated, those souls are escorted to the stone rollers on Yamaraja's planet, where they are crushed repeatedly without mercy. Their dead and gone body's location has nothing to do with their soul's future location. 



I will live forever in my eternal statue

Meanwhile! The Bengalis who write to me with questions from time to time, seem to be almost clueless about the actual history of the GBC's gurus and their criminal organization. Hence their questions seem to be almost kindergarten level, about a hundred years behind in their history information. Then again JPS complained that a number of his Bengali disciples cannot even read nor write. Yep! Its much easier to take advantage of illiterate village folks in Bengal than educated Westerners, no kidding! 

So it seems JPS is capitalizing on exploiting people who are not really up to speed on the real story of the GBC's guru process. Isn't that what crooks do: exploit ignorance; exploit the weaker, the less educated, the helpless. Is this not like the criminals who were arrested here for "phone scamming" some less aware elderly people -- by trying to steal their pensions on some bogus business loan deals? Preying on the less literate, the non-internet savvy, the weak and innocent? Is this something to be proud of? Unfortunately, scamming the ignorant means one has to later on take birth as an ignorant person and to be scammed oneself. 

Meanwhile, Bhakti Vikas swami is doing about the same thing, he is another person who hangs out in a semi-remote place like Salem India, far away from places where the more sophisticated / literate people are more aware of the GBC's history.  

Bhakti Vikas swami is the sannyasa disciple of Jayapataka, and he says he is the dog of Srila Prabhupada. Yet! Bhakti Vikas swami has people worshiping his illicit sex with men, women and children acharya's process, which Sulochana concluded is -- less -- than dog behavior. So BVKS is yet another person who apparently has to hide out in remote places in India where he can prey on the less literate and un-informed people, and where he can promote his worship of illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara to a small group of more ignorant folks. 

Worship of: illicit sex gurus, Vodka drinking acharyas, offering LSD to the deity, porno swamis, sex with taxi drivers messiahs and so forth, its not going to be accepted widely by the mass of people, ever. Thus! These people are going to more remote places where there are more or less ignorant people who do not know the history of their illicit sex "chain of gurus from God." Once GBC guru says he purposefully hangs out in a remote place because "the screaming devotee mob wants to take down the GBC." Heh heh heh!

Yep, of course after Sulochana said their guru parampara is worse "acar" than dogs -- because at least dogs do not have illicit sex with men, women and children, dogs have a lot more dignity, then he was assassinated by the BVKS guru parampara folks? Someone asked me recently, why is Hanuman Croatia (lasting impressions web site) still supporting BVKS? Maybe he thinks their less than dogs acharya program can be revived? Sorry, it won't be revived, its going down.    



More advanced than some Jayapataka program's acharyas?

Anyway! Apparently, the Mayapura Westerners are being "phased out more and more," so the Bengalis will continue to worship the molester messiah's project guys in samadhis over there forever, at least that is the plan. So its corrupt over there, for sure. And my friend says that if anyone is found to get out of line, and go against the JPS regime, the local cops will reign that person in (same in Vrndavana). 

So it appears all about money and corruption over there, and was even at the time of Srila Sarasvati Thakura, people were trying to bribe the authorities to come after him. The good news is, they are boxed into certain areas where they can prey on a few ignorant people, but the mass of people worldwide are getting wise to their whole illicit sex acharya's scheme, which is also why our blog is getting way more hits this year than last, people are being educated gradually. The mundane police will not be able to save these guys from an educated mass of devotees, nor from the police of Yamaraja. Did we forget to mention, JPS voice is heard on the poison tapes? Sheesh, this guy has no clue what his future is going to be, he has no faith in shastra. ys pd

Dalit Protest in Mumbai

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/mumbai-dalit-strike-latest-updates-lowest-caste-city-transport-untouchable-protest-hindi-nationalist-a8139406.html

PADA: The outdated caste system there is dysfunctional and simply -- isn't working. There are little or none proper kshatriyas and brahmanas at the helm of the society, so the corrupted caste idea is simply used to exploit various sectors of the society. A number of Dalits are converting to become Christians andMuslims, that cannot be good for the so-called "Hindutva" cause. ys pd

New Years Program in Spain


Monday, January 1, 2018

Venugopal's Jeeva Tattva Essay



PADA: A follower of Narayana Maharaja wrote to chastise me, because according to this person NM "helped many people understand what Srila Prabhupada really said." Maybe, but NM also said that the 11 GBC are the appointed guru successors. How did that work out for you folks? 

And NM said that Srila Prabhupada's "Back to Godhead" idea is wrong because we were never with Krishna, and he said so many other things that contradicted the acharya. So now we need people having to work as clean up janitors (like this article below) to correct all the mis-citations that the GBC and their "advsiors" came up with.

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Only for those interested in the subject matter......understand and take what you can from this. At this stage in my life I am will not be interested in debating these matters any more.

CONTRADICTING CONCEPTS IN TRANSCENDENTAL KNOWLEDGE

namah om visnupadaya krsna presthaya bhutale
srimate bhaktivedanta swamin iti namine
namaste sarasvati deve gaura vani pracarine
nirvasesa sunyavadi pascatya desa tarine

panca tattvamakam krsnam bhaktarupa svarupakam
bhaktavataram bhaktakhyam namami bhakta saktikam

sri krsna caitanya prabhu nityananda
sri advaita gadadadhar srivasadi gaura bhakta vrinda

hare krsna hare krsna krsna krsna hare hare
hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare

Note: In writing this essay I have attempted to address some questions of contradiction that some devotees perceive in Srila Prabhupadas’ presentation of Vaisnava siddhanta in the western world. I hope it is of some help to those who may be struggling with these types of questions.

Contents

Part 1 Terminology: Back Home Back to Godhead.
Part 2 The Quandary of Time Place and Circumstance.
Part 3 The Origin of the Eternal Soul.
Part 4 Eternal Association of the Lord.
Part 5 The Conclusion.

Part One

Terminology: Back Home Back to Godhead.

In 1944, at a time when most were content in understanding that souls (jivas) in the spiritual world do not fall down, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami was busy -- to the contrary -- coining the phrase ‘Back home, back to Godhead’. These words however were hidden to most and their relevance went unnoticed for many years. Indeed, it wasn’t until much later, after his movement found world recognition that the actual significance and indeed the controversy of this phrase, finally came to light.


[PADA: This jeeva tattva "controversy" was wholesale started by the ISKCON GBC and their false post-1977 "advisors." They are the ones who went to "take shelter" of BR Sridhara Maharaja, BV Narayana Maharaja, BP and BV Puri Maharajas, Fakir Mohan, Gaura Govinda maharaja, Babajis and others, who did not accept that we were once with Krishna. So the GBC created this "controverial storm" all by themselves. Previously, none of the ISKCON devotees would even dare challenge the statement "Back To Godhead," therefore it is the bogus GBC and their cheer leaders who enabled and empowered people to doubt the statements of the acharya. Srila Prabhupada said that those who doubted his Back To Godhead idea are tinged with mayavada, and they are.] 

Srila Prabhupada freely use this expression as he travelled the world (including India, the home of Gaudiya vaisnava philosophy) and he constantly and lucidly explained its’ meaning as well. Yet despite this well-known and documented history, many still struggle with the concept, questioning the contradictions in logic it inevitably conjures. 

[PADA: Adam and Eve left the Garden, Satan was a highly placed angel who became envious and fell down. This concept is pretty much easy to understand i.e.; The spirit souls are originally pure, but they fell. They became envious of God; They violated the orders of God; They broke their relationship with God or some variation of these issues, and thus they had to leave God's association in the Garden, or end up ruling Hell like Satan. 

Clearly, its easy to see how this idea works; A soul who is with God can end up breaking their relationship with God. And that also explains the concept of how we "left our position of serving Godhead," and now we have to "return home" -- and its not that difficult to understand these ideas actually.]

In fact for some it’s become a very personal challenge just coming to terms with what ‘Prabhupada said’ in this regard. Most however hold fast to what Srila Prabhupada did say about this and they live with the faith that by such chastity, Srila Prabhupada will indeed take them back home, back to Godhead. In the Upanishads there is an important injunction describing how such faith brings one to understand what is otherwise not understandable.

yasya deva para bhakti yatah deva tatah guruh
tasyate katatah hayatah prakasante mahatmanah

To one who has unflinching faith in the supreme Lord and similar faith in the spiritual master, all the imports of Vedic knowledge are revealed.

[PADA: Right, its a little silly for us teeny little jeevas to try to decide on our own whether we either came from association with Godhead, or to accept that we came from the impersonal brahman, we simply have no idea how we came into existence and how we got here. We therefore have to accept shastra, and not speculate on these issues.] 
 


Perhaps it is the trend of our modern age that this essential ingredient for spiritual realization is more often than not, set aside in favour of speculative intellectualism. Nevertheless, as mentioned above, perfect spiritual understanding actually descends from the absolute platform through the transparent via medium of a bona fide spiritual master. This is an absolute truth. It is stated very clearly in Vedic scriptures and those who walk the path of pure devotional service directly experience it.

[PADA: Yep!]

The phrase back home, back to Godhead, has both direct and indirect meaning. Directly, it implies that we have a spiritual home, a place from which we have come and to which we can return; an origin in the eternal world of Godhead. Indirectly, it implies that we must have left that home, "some how or other falling down" from there. It was by using this phrase so extensively that Srila Prabhupada encouraged the collective vision most of his followers share today; that the jiva souls in this world have fallen from their spiritual "locus standi" and that the desire and order of the spiritual master is to somehow or other guide them back to home, back to Godhead. 

[PADA: Yes, the main theme of Srila Prabhupada is that we revive our dormant Krishna consciousness, which means it existed previously.]

He even chose the phrase as the primary logo for his spiritual journal, designed and destined to be distributed throughout the entire world. It was also Srila Prabhupadas’ habit to systematically hammer home important points by repetition and we see this phrase is of no exception as it pervades the entirety of his Bhaktivedanta purports. Little wonder the concept embeds deep in the psyche of anyone who cares to study his writings.

Within the great echelons of vaisnava culture Srila Prabhupadas’ authority is unquestionably bona fide and his practical achievements are astounding and as such, his constant use of this phrase should not be taken lightly. However, with the passing of time and in his physical absence many have succumbed to just that and disregarding both the direct and indirect meanings, they seek to impose a completely alien one. 

[PADA: Right, appointed acharyas, falling down acharyas, illicit sex acharyas, and the bogus jeeva tattva that we originated in brahman and so on, all these are alien concepts.]

The conjecture is, that in the light of the Gita’s statement of “having once gone there, (the supreme abode) one never returns”, the concept of going “back” to such a place is contradictory and therefore impossible and so Srila Prabhupada must have invented the whole concept in the name of preaching, simply for the sake of ‘time, place and circumstances’. However, those who are his disciples (either diksa or siksa) are really bound by duty to embrace the concept ‘as he did’ and they must present it ‘as he did’ as well.

Part Two

The Quandary of Time, Place and Circumstances.

Throughout his books, his lectures, morning walks, conversations and letters, Srila Prabhupada stated that infinitesimal living entities can and will fall from grace at any time simply by the miss-use of their minute independence. An example can be found in Srimad Bhagavatam’s 3:31:15:

Translation - The human soul further prays: The living entity is put under the influence of material nature and continues a hard struggle for existence on the path of repeated birth and death. This conditional life is due to his forgetfulness of his relationship with the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Therefore, without the Lord's mercy, how can he again engage in the transcendental loving service of the Lord?

Extract from Purport - One can be liberated in the knowledge of the Absolute Truth simply by the mercy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. It is clearly said herein that our memory is lost because we are now covered by His material energy. Arguments may be put forward as to why we have been put under the influence of this material energy by the supreme will of the Lord. 

This is explained in Bhagavad-gita, where the Lord says, "I am sitting in everyone's heart, and due to Me one is forgetful or one is alive in knowledge." The forgetfulness of the conditioned soul is also due to the direction of the Supreme Lord. A living entity misuses his little independence when he wants to lord it over material nature. This misuse of independence, which is called maya, is always available, otherwise there would be no independence. Independence implies that one can use it properly or improperly. It is not static; it is dynamic. Therefore, misuse of independence is the cause of being influenced by maya.

However, in seeming contradiction Srila Prabhupada also used phrases like “otherwise it is a fact that no one falls from Vaikuntha” and, “having once gone there, one never returns” etc. Over the years these statements have attracted so much attention and there have been numerous papers published on the subject as well. Yet despite both the well-intentioned rhetoric of such papers and the present day party line that “we have now brought the subject to a suitable closure”, there still remains a very strong (almost closet kind of) feeling among many, that we have not actually arrived at a substantial answer which satisfactorily addresses the natural questions of a sincere intellect. 


Even nowadays, when those ‘questions’ arise (and they inevitably do), the answers almost always fade into ambiguity, devoid of any absolute merit and the audience is left drifting in a realm of spiritual uncertainty.

There is however another path of understanding, a path not many have yet cared to venture but when explored puts to rest both sides of this argument. Stated simply, both sides of a coin are gold. That is to say, that on one hand, Srila Prabhupada does state that jivas, on account of their intrinsic free will, can fall-down at any time, but yet on the other hand he also says that one does not fall down from the spiritual world. In other words, both these teachings are there in his commentaries and as such, we really have no alternative but to accept and acknowledge that he supported both of them, side by side. This is the only natural conclusion and the only safe one also.


[PADA: Right, generally most jeevas in the spiritual world do not fall, but sometimes, a minority may fall. Srila Prabhupada explains this is just like in the ordinary mundane society; The society has mostly law abiding citizens, but some minority will break the law. Therefore, there has to be a jail for the law breaking sector, and the material world is God's jail for His law breaker citizens.]

Now as a matter of personal choice, some of Srila Prabhupada’s followers (along with some vaisnavas from other Maths) opt to subscribe to one view only and they reason that when Prabhupada stated otherwise, he did so for the sake of a particular time place and circumstance. But the glaring discrepancy in this kind of reasoning is that it does nothing to explain his (Srila Prabhupadas) simultaneous use of both these conceptual contradictions in the same time, place and circumstances. In other words, even if it were thought that Srila Prabhupadas’ books are only for a particular time, place and circumstance, then why on earth would he cite both concepts in that same time place and circumstance? 

[PADA: Right, Narayana Maharaja folks said to me that the "Back To Godhead" idea was made up to pacify the hippies in the 1960s. Nope, the "Back To Godhead" magazine was made decades earlier.]

Why would such a great acharaya as Srila Prabhupada, who stated that his translations and purports are the guiding light for the next ten thousand years, simultaneously put forward two opposing views and leave the ignorant to decide for themselves which one to follow? Yet in Srila Prabhupadas greatest legacy (his books), we are confronted with just that. 

The presentation of (a) the supremacy and safety of Lord Krsnas lotus feet where having taken shelter one does not come back to this material world and (b) the misuse of our minute independence, causing one to fall down from the association of the Lord. The point is, neither of these concepts has ever been refuted by any of our acharays and neither did Srila Prabhupada ever attempt to do so. On the contrary, he always taught and supported both of them.

[PADA: Both ideas are correct, generally people in the spiritual world tend to stay there, but a small minority might decide not to stay there.]

Further to this and for those still bent on arguing the point, isn’t it really just begging the question of who will decide anyway? In other words, if it is a question of ‘time, place and circumstance’, then who among us is to say which acharaya is speaking due to the ‘time place and circumstance’ and which acharaya is speaking absolute truth? Even taking one acharaya at a time; who will decide which part of their teaching is for the time, place and circumstance and which part is absolute? 


Who will step forward and judge our acharays in this way and from what platform will they dare do so? In the shadow of truth all kinds of speculation goes on and in the absence of absolute perception many now simply close their mind around one particular concept, based on a limited angle of vision.

We should look closely at Srila Prabhupadas’ personal example of “time, place and circumstance”. Time place and circumstances only ever referred to the different methods of dissemination and/or to the amount of knowledge able to be to be digested by the audience. ‘Time place and circumstance’ never dictated change in the Truth itself. Such acharayas present the Absolute Truth, ‘as it is’, knowing full well that it is Truth only which liberates one from ignorance. Absolute Truth requires no help or explanation from bewildered conditioned souls and we should be careful not to be allured by such persons into these arguments from either side even if they sometimes present shastric evidence to support their view. 

If we do so, the outcome will always prove inconclusive and fruitless. Factually speaking, both these concepts, as Srila Prabhupada presents them, are absolutely true. It is an absolute truth that by misusing ones free will, one falls down from the transcendental platform and it is also an absolute truth that upon entering the spiritual world, one does not return. In either case, whatever may happen is ultimately a matter of the Absolute Will of God, because both situations are just different manifestations of His Absolute perfect mercy and abundant grace upon us.

[PADA: Right, to say we fell because God starts out some exclusive people with Him who never fail, and some start out -- without -- Him making them prone to fail, makes God biased. That is not correct. God is equal to all the children, there is no original bias against a sector of His children.]

All these so-called contradictions are just differentiations of transcendental variety on the absolute plane. Try we may to measure one concept true and the other false, but in so doing we face only confusion. We must understand that everything in the Absolute Truth is factual and as such, it is pointless to argue the reality of one transcendental concept against the other. 

In the material world everyone is affected by the dualities of relative truth. Everyone is conditioned to think one way or the other; that one concept is right and the other wrong, and we tend to continuously argue the point. Indeed, it is next to impossible accommodating two totally contradictory ideas while accepting them both as correct. Nevertheless, in all things spiritual, we are reminded by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati that Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the Absolute Truth, is adorned and glorified with the wonderful inconceivable quality of perfectly reconciling all contradictory matters pertaining to Himself. 

And true to such transcendental form, we find in Srila Prabhupada’s writings the presentation of both concepts and so we must also accept them both as factual. One has only to give up the debilitating habit of speculative interpretation and simply try to observe the context of each concept ‘as it is’ presented. Then one will see both concepts as perfectly harmonious, simply due to their being initiated and orchestrated by the absolute will of the Lord.

Part Three

The Origin of the Eternal Soul.

In terms of mundane logic, descriptions of a jiva soul as having both an origin and an eternal nature are also certainly contradictory, nevertheless both of these ideas have their place in Shastric evidence. For example, in the Bhagavad Gita we find,

na jayate mriyate va kadacin
nayam bhutva bhavito vana bhuyah
ajo nitya sasvato yam purano
na hanyate hanyamane sarire

“For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain.”

Yet in Brahma Samhita we find the Lord is glorified as:

sahasramsah sahasra-suh.

“He, the Lord, is the source of thousands of avatars and the creator of thousands of individual souls”.

On hearing this, the logical mind argues that ultimately, only one can be correct. Our acarayas on the other hand, give much explanation to both concepts and we would do well when going through their explanations to do so without prejudice (thinking that one must be right and the other wrong due to “time place and circumstances”). For example, in his Jaiva Dharma, Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura goes as far as saying that jivas or living entities are ‘newly manifest’. By such terminology he certainly risks the possibility of people jumping to the conclusion that jivas, or living entities must therefore be non-eternal, nevertheless he takes that risk for the sake of establishing the truth of their origin. Jivas are certainly eternal (nitya), but it is only because God (their origin) is eternal. Krsna is (sat), the total supreme embodiment of eternal existence. He is

anadi adi govinda sarva karuna karanam,

The primal entity Who is without cause, the cause of all other causes, the fountainhead and ultimate source of everything.

In the Gita Lord Krsna says,

aham sarvasya prabhavo mattah sarvam pravartate

Everything that is spiritual and everything that is material emanates from Me.

In this way it is understood that all souls, be they ‘vibhucit’ or ‘anucit’, (infinite or infinitesimal) come either directly or indirectly from the Supreme Personality of Godhead Krsna. However this does not mean to say, that having expanded from the Lord, such souls previously had no existence for how can that be? Krsna is the inexhaustible reservoir of existence (sat). He is the Absolute Truth. In Him there is no such thing as non-existence. In Krsna there is only existence or ‘sat’. He is Self-endowed with eternal being, and as He expands, even that which appears ‘newly manifest’ from Him is also eternally existent or sat’, having its’ own source and therefore qualitative nature in Him. Brahman or spirit (sat) is not the product of non-being (asat). All living beings, infinite or infinitesimal, have expanded from the eternal Godhead and therefore they all have their eternal identity and existence in Him and Him only, hence the Vedic aphorism ‘aham brahmasmi’.

Furthermore, in the shastra we will find it is said that not only spirit, but matter (as pradhana) also, is an eternal energy of the Lord and because of this it is often argued that both these energies must therefore be without beginning. Of course this is indeed quite logical but if it were the whole truth, then the many scriptural descriptions of the creative attributes of God would ultimately be meaningless. Many thinkers these days are content to just discard Gods’ actual creative potency as nothing more than a mundane metaphorical conception for the benefit of our limited intelligence but Gaudiya Vaisnavism begs to differ and it explains Krsnas’ absolute creative nature in its proper transcendental context and hierarchy. In this way the truth of Krsnas’ inconceivable potency can be better appreciated.

Both the eternal nature and the origin of the soul are clearly described in Bhagavad Gita wherein Lord Krsna speaks of the nature of His different energies.

maimavamsa jiva loke jiva bhuta sanatana

The Lord claims all jivas (souls) as His eternal fragmented parts and parcels. They are specifically described as eternally fragmented parts and parcels, meaning that they are eternally individuals.

And in the same Bhagavad Gita, Krsna also says,

aham sarvasya prabhavo mattah sarvam pravartate

“Everything material and everything spiritual emanates from Me. I am the source of all. Everything emanates from Me.”

Here Krsna says that all these eternal individuals have emanated from Him. That means He is their origin and they have come from Him.

Krsna also claims to be the source of, the proprietor of, and the controller of matter as well. He says,

mamatma bhuta bhavana

“I am the source of all manifestations”

and,

mayadaksyena prakrti suyate sa caracaram

“The material nature or manifestation is working under My direction.”

So it is understood by these clear statements in Bhagavad Gita that although both the living entities and matter have their eternal individualities, at the same time they also have their common origin in Krsna. They are creations of God, manifestations of His personal will or desire.

Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead can and does create. To suggest otherwise would impose serious limitations upon He, who is glorified as supremely omnipotent. Indeed, it is only Krsna (or Visnu) who has the will and the power to create at all. All others are but secondary, so-called ‘creators’, who by Lord Visnus’ grace alone, can only manipulate or transform the elements of His different energies. When Krsna creates, it is not as others do. 

Where others can only build with the external ingredients already made available to them, Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, creates out of His own Being (or that of his plenary expansions). He needs no external ingredient or help. Everything is achieved by His own internal energy and desire. Newly manifest entities expand from Him, as do unlimited spiritual pastimes, as does the total mahatattva (material energy) and because He is the reservoir of eternity, everything that emanates from Him is also by its very nature, eternal as well. Spirit (brahman) and the ingredients of matter (pradhana) are all eternal because factually they have their origin in Him. 

The actions of transformation that we observe in this material world give the impression (or illusion) only, that everything is temporary (with beginning and end, birth and death etc) but the underlying elements (i.e. both matter and spirit) being creations of God, are in fact eternal. It is the conception of non-existence that is illusory, and it is caused by the wonderful interactions and transformations of the Lord’s different eternal energies. In this way the inconceivable and illusive nature of the Lord’s energies is so great that the empiric scholars, the best scientists and the most thoughtful philosophers of this mundane world are all bewildered when confronted with the glories of the inconceivable creative potency of the Lord.

Part Four

Eternal Association with the Lord.

Entering into the eternal association of the Lord, as well as falling away from His eternal association is also, in terms of mundane logic, another great contradiction. But again, these concepts are all mentioned in the Shastra and we find them in the commentaries of the acarayas as well. Whereas mundane logic certainly serves as a tool for spiritual understanding and development, it can only do so up to a point. Beyond the mundane world, in the spiritual sky, the inconceivable transcendental energies of the Lord work freely without restriction and our material mechanistic logic is not at all required for the confirmation of what transpires there. 

All our academic endeavours and mental speculation put together cannot grant us the necessary power to understand that transcendental situation. It is a subject known sufficiently only by direct experience of the Lord and His transcendental energies. In the spiritual sky, the unending spiritual variety and emotional exchange that surrounds the Personality of Godhead is absolute and eternal and its’ unique spiritual quality is that of perfect harmony (due to its’ obedient relationship with the transcendental desire or incentive of the Lord). A living entities (jiva) relationship with the Lord may be sometimes interrupted by the misuse of their free will, but the original spiritual connection or relationship is never severed. 

We may imagine we have left Him, but the fact is He never leaves us. Even in this world of matter, where the Lord is generally not directly perceived, He is nevertheless both directly and indirectly present everywhere, as there is no possibility of existence at all, without the omnipresence of the Lord. In the material world we are simply experiencing a different form of His association.

The Supreme Personality of Godhead is the unlimited reservoir of multifarious potencies. The tiny infinitesimal jivas categorically belong to one of those potencies. They are all purely spiritual, purely sentient, infinitesimal individuals, conceived by the blissful Will (anandamayobhyasat) of the Prime Infinite Sentient, Sri Krsna, through one of His Own agencies or Plenary Forms. Innumerable sentient jivas have expanded from the eternal, all-powerful Godhead and because of this all jivas without exception, are essentially possessed of His own transcendental nature and pure spiritual quality. 

There is no ignorance, no imperfection, or bound state of illusion in them. In the soul proper there is only the quality of pure consciousness, which is their original and constitutional sense of oneness in submission to Godhead, and which is also their eternal constitutional identity in ‘Brahman’. This oneness in submission to Godhead is our original and eternal nature.

‘jivera svarupa haya nitya krsna dasa.’


[PADA: There you go, the eternal position of the jeeva is a servant of God, why would God start out some souls in the position of -- not serving? Makes no sense ....]

We are eternally servants of Krsna and for the ever-continuing development of our natural affection and loving relationship with Him, (or in other words, for the sake of our inherent spiritual purpose), we are made ‘tatastha’ or marginally independent and so there always exists in us the potential to be overpowered by His corrective potency, maya, but only when, by misuse of our small independent free-will we choose to conceive of ourselves in a way which is against our conceived purpose, our constitutional nature and our own good. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura has commented upon this inclination of the jivas as follows:

“The subjugation of the soul to the laws of a foreign mistress is a result of his own deliberate choice. He can easily revert to the state of free existence by the exercise of that same freedom of choice. But free existence does and can only mean constitutional existence in the transcendental region. The soul is a tiny particle of Universal soul. By his constitution he is subject to the spiritual power of the Divinity, of which he is a constitutional part. 

When he chooses to function in his own position in the spiritual system and in subordination to the laws of the spiritual realm, he is constitutionally free. Whenever he chooses deliberately not to serve the Absolute, he thereby, ipsofacto, looses his natural free state and is compelled to submit to the Divine Will under pressure. This thraldom, he learns to prefer to real freedom by the tricks of the illusory energy of Godhead (maya), which creates a world by the will of Godhead in which Godhead makes Himself invisible for the benefit of the jiva. 

In this world he finds ample scope for his atheistic activities, which only result in increasing misery and disappointment. He wants to be master but finds himself really powerless and compelled to serve, not Godhead, but a power that is totally alien to himself. But this is the only alternative to utter annihilation, which should be the instantaneous consequence of his abandonment by Godhead. Godhead does not want to destroy those jivas that become adverse to his domination, so He offers them something which is infinitely better than what they themselves want in lieu of His service and which completely satisfies, although it is intended to ultimately cure their disloyal inclinations. 

If He had offered what they themselves want, it would be their own destruction. They want to be masters, or in other words, to be merged in the Absolute, that is, to cease to be, whereas they are really servants in substance and by their constitution. When the jiva wants to be identified with Godhead, he can be neither. He must be either jiva or nothing at all. Godhead must maintain the jiva if he is to exist at all. 

If He did not do so, they would cease to exist. He allows them to imagine therefore, that they are self maintained and maintains them nevertheless. But as a matter of fact they are really unable to maintain themselves without support from Godhead. This is recognised even by the fallen soul when he prays to God for his continued maintenance in the way he likes. He does not want to be ruled by his Author or Master. He wants to pursue an independent course with the help of the power of Godhead. But Godheads’ power can never really act in a subordinate way and hence it is necessary as the only way of saving his existence, to produce the illusion in the fallen soul that he is being served, while he is really being dominated. This is the great untruth necessary for the existence of the jiva in defiance of Godhead.

(Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati)

From the above we can see that the Lord intentionally allows jivas free-will by which they can choose at any point in either mundane or transcendental time to approach Him in selfless love or turn away from Him for selfish pursuits. Naturally, The Lords’ powerful will or desire penetrates deep into the very heart of the soul, but free-will always dictates choice in the matter. In this way, love of Godhead is always full of discerning freedom and spontaneity. It is not mechanical, it is not forced.

[PADA: Right, to say some souls start with Krishna and some start in brahman takes away the freedom of those who start without Krishna.] 


The Lord is the greatest of all living beings, ‘nityo nityanas cetanas cetananam’. He is the predominating chief of all jivas who, as innumerable infinitesimal souls are manifest as ‘tatastha shakti’, meaning that they possess a natural discrimination between mundane consciousness (self-absorption) and spiritual consciousness (absorption in God). He is their origin and He is their God. And it is He who creates and oversees their inherent free will, allowing them the fruits of their eclipsed or uneclipsed cognition. 

The meaning and the purpose behind the existence of all these infinitesimal souls will be found by them only in the existence of He, Who is their eternal Master by reason of their uneclipsed cognition. And it is through His grace only (as the Supersoul of all) that the real path of their true well-being is gradually remembered, by submissive service and inquiry at the lotus feet of Sri Guru.

Pure devotional service gradually reawakens within the heart of a soul (jiva) by the combined will of the Lord and the favourable association of His pure devotee and in due course Krsna is factually understood and directly seen as the all-attractive centre of attention. Krsna is the supreme enjoyer of all aspects of all kinds of relationships with his eternal associates who reciprocate with Him in various moods of loving affection. Their unswerving devotion is absolutely reposed in Him and it is by nature, perfect and pure. 

There is no forgetfulness or darkness in them. As Krsna is supremely lovable to the unlimited degree, so His associates are supremely loving, to the unlimited degree. They are the perfect eternal counterparts in His all-spiritual pastimes. A jiva however, cannot attain to this status of becoming a counterpart of the Lord as their constitutional nature is uniquely different. They can either relish in love (tasting the complete rasa thereof) or leave alone in envy those pastimes of the Lord and His Associates. 

As Krsna is infinitely great, His Associates are also infinitely great. Jivas (living entities) however are infinitesimally great or minutely great and they take part in the pastimes of the Lord in a position and in a way perfectly suited to their infinitesimal nature. By the grace of Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu, jivas awaken to understand their constitutional place (dharma) in the scheme of these transcendental pastimes and they become completely perfect and self-satisfied in chanting and glorifying the Holy Names and pastimes of the Lord. Only then do they actually serve and glorify the Lord in their constitutional position and form (svarupa) and only then do they directly experience their constitutional love of God in ever increasing fullness. 

All other attempts to find or remember their forgotten spiritual identity will always be impure and pretentious, inspired by the perverted desire to imitate or become one with either the Lord, His Eternal Associates or His spiritual effulgence.

Part Five

Conclusion.

When the acharays portray seemingly contradictory concepts there is no fault on their part, for they are in actuality, presenting nothing less than Absolute Truths. All transcendental concepts coexist in perfect harmony by the supreme will and inconceivable potency of the Lord and they must always be seen in that light. It is ‘achintya bheda bheda tattva’.

The supreme Will of the Lord is always One and that Will is simply His own ananda or spiritual pleasure. And in order to expand this Ananda or Will, the Lord displays unlimited varied Personal aspects and pastimes according to His own independent desire and the loving mood and dealings of his different devotees who share in these transcendental proclivities. He is known as ‘akhila rasamrta murtih’. His supreme Will, or intention is non-different from His ‘ananda’ or pleasure and this is the very foundation upon which any and every transcendental relationship with Him exists. Whether conditioned, liberated, newly manifest or whatever, if we neglect to act for the pleasure of the Lord, we can have no standing in our eternal relationship with Him and we immediately fall down to the illusory platform of material sense gratification. If on the other hand, we properly understand the Will of the Lord (devotional service to Him) and obediently execute it, we will never fall down. The choice is always ours.

By the proper practice and execution of devotional service under the guidance of a bonafide spiritual master a living entity becomes situated in perfect knowledge of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and such a fortunate soul certainly awakens their previously dormant Krsna consciousness. At that time philosophical contradictions no longer bewilder them because the mercy of the bonafide spiritual master is such that in the progress of their spiritual awakening they experience first hand, their constitutional relationship with the Lord. The all-auspicious appearance of Sri Krsna completely dissipates the darkness of ignorance (forgetfulness) within the heart of such a devotee and from that point on, eternal remembrance of the Lord and His Transcendental Pastimes becomes the only real priority of their existence. Krsna always gives protection to such surrendered souls, keeping good His promise in the Bhagavad Gita that ‘My devotees never perish’.

We have tried here to describe in simple terms, a small particle of the truth of the eternal nature of jivas, as well as the truth of their origin. We have also tried to explain the natural consequences of their minute independence and free will as well. However, these things are only fully understood when, after sufficiently maturing in the practice of devotional service, the living entity again comes face to face with the Supreme Personality of Godhead. 

By the power of pure devotional service in the presence of the Lord all speculations regarding ones origin are completely dispelled. By the Lords’ merciful association and ones own obedient use of free will, love of Godhead is naturally reawakened and it is infinitely increased as well. In that completely transcendental situation there is no more any need to practice the ritualistic regulative principles of devotional service because in the presence of the Lord, everything is enacted naturally and spontaneously. If there is some small misuse of free will, the Lord personally and directly corrects it by remaining aloof, or indifferent, or by some other means. 

And if there is some chronic misuse of free will the Lord also naturally corrects that, though indirectly, through the agency of His external potency. These are the divine laws which regulate our spiritual freedom and as eternal infinitesimal living beings (jivas), they forever and eternally rule us.

Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare,
Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare,


[PADA: Agreed. Once going "Back to Godhead," back to Krishna, one never leaves. That is the general principle. The principle is not always the rule in all cases. The souls are always free to choose, otherwise, there is no love. A person has to choose love and this cannot be artificially imposed, the person has to desire that love by his own volition, or it is not love, it is mechanical robots. Krishna has no interest in mechanical robot servants. ys pd] 





Prayers for H.G. Venugopal dasa (ACBSP)

Prayers for H.G. Venugopal dasa (ACBSP) 

Sriman Venugopal das recently sent the following message to Kurma dasa: "I feel the time is nearing. To all my friends and loved ones, please do not lament. Be happy under Prabhupada's shelter. Take the Holy Name with full faith and attention. Care for each other and try to serve the Vaisnavas in any way you can. Oh....and I have no intention of stopping off in heaven. My Home is elsewhere." 

Venugopal prabhu's wife, Nikunja Seva devi, has also informed the devotees: 

"He has a few weeks at the most. He has an aggressive type of Cancer. Had Colon surgery on 2nd Nov but cancer was already in his Liver & Lymph nodes. Chemo was not an option as it was not going to solve the problem. Since then, the tumours have grown rapidly. 

He is pretty yellow. There was talk of seeing if there was a blocked duct in the liver and perhaps putting a stent which would have alleviated his jaundice but the scans last night showed that it was pretty futile to try anything. He is in great consciousness - cutting jokes and counselling grief stricken devotees. 

He is pretty weak. He has lost at least 15 kgs recently but his focus and attention on what he needs to do is steadfast and strong. We have been overwhelmed with the love and support from our devotee family all over the world. Prayers are his main medicine so your heartfelt prayers would be most appreciated. With respect and thanks.  

Nikunja Seva dd

Original Edition Hungarian Gita (PDF)

http://www.prabhupada-books.de/translations/gita-hungarian/Az_Eredeti_Bhagavad-gita_1981_Bhaktivedanta_Swami_Prabhupada.pdf

PADA: Please let us know where other "original editions" in other languages are available. Wow, this is amazing, we need to undo the damage the GBC book changing termites have been doing all over the planet, and get originals re-established in all languages. Lots of service for those looking for some! ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com