Hari Parsad Blames ISKCON's Children Victims / Justice Letter 11 12 25

SVA DIKSHA

PADA: Yeah prabhu. Madhusudan's sva - diksha means -- the person is his own diksha guru and he thus absorbs his own sins. That is impossible.   

And yeah, Madhusudana is like another Krishnamurti type guy, no one needs guidance, but then he writes all sorts of books and essays all day long and lectures and councils people. It is a another guru business. Agreed. 

Yeah, the photo of Krishnamurti should not be shown to people who are sensitive, his face looks frightening. He looks dark and scary. Also agreed. ys pd  

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NAMARASA and HARI PARSAD

 

PADA: Rather amazing that the GBC -- and their guys like this Hari Parsad fellow -- since 1978 -- have been ordering ISKCON's five years old children to worship their bogus messiahs project's members such as -- homosexuals, pedophiles, drug addicts, criminals, porno swamis, or those voted into that project etc. as the children's "eternal links to God." 

Then, when these children were being starved, beaten, molested and treated very badly, the argument started to surface "these ISKCON victims (OK such as the children) made bad choices for gurus." They are still saying the same thing now, victims suffered because they (five years old children) needed to be cautious about selecting their gurus. Exactly what they said at the start of all this.

Or worse, "the victims just got their karma." Umm, wait, nope! You leadership guys made the choices for these children, and crammed the worship of deviants into the children's lives. When ISKCON's Mahatma says -- people (children) got a bad guru because "they did not study the shastra properly," he is essentially saying the five years old children did not read the Vedas properly. Why didn't Mahatma read the Vedas and make proper gurus for these children?  

Wait? This is always the same question, why didn't the other leaders, and people like Hari Parsad and Mahatma, study the Vedas, figure out what and who is a guru, and then give those pre-selected gurus to these children? The five years old children have to administer "who is and who is not" God's successor for ISKCON? 

And when the leaders do not administer this properly, various victims have been starved, beat, molested and mistreated to the point they claim they were in "Auschwitz for kids." How did the children victims "choose" and select this process, when they were only five years old? Victim blaming on steroids!

 

Sorry, the kids did not choose to make Auschwitz for kids, they did not create anything for themselves. Nor does it make sense that small children have the proper discrimination position to choose anything, because they are kids. That means the children are dependent on these leadership guys to make the right choices -- for them. 

When a six year old child finds a gun in the house, and goes to school and shoots his teacher, which happened recently, the child is not charged with any crime. The parents are charged for negligence. The child should not be charged because the child has no mature idea of any of this. How did the children all of a sudden become responsible for the Auschwitz for kids project -- made by the GBC leaders, not them? Bait and switcheroo!

But look what happens, ISKCON and Hari Parsad's program -- charges the children as the prime culprits in making "the wrong choices of guru." Now Hari Parsad repeats the same bogus thing they said all along, the new people (children) have to be cautious in choosing their guru. Why is the GBC making bad gurus in the first place, which means the rest of us (and children) have to be cautious in having one of their gurus? 

And why is the penalty for children making the wrong choice, Auschwitz for kids? Who authorizes these folks to make Auschwitz for kids -- one of the choices? And how did the victims get to choose that? 

Anyway good, we should be careful when selecting GBC gurus. Good idea. What are the only allocated selections available in the Hari Parsad guru parampara?

1. Homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks, drug addicts, oral sex with taxi drivers, oral sex with boys, porno swamis and assorted deviants. OK as Jayadvaita summarizes, the GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children gurus. 

2. The next group we get to select from are: the founding fathers, enablers, promoters, re-instators, cheer leaders, position paper writes, and overall hand maidens of the homosexuals and pedophiles messiah's project from the group no. 1 category.

3. The persons hand selected -- 2/3 show of hands voted in -- to be gurus by groups no. 1 and no.2. In other words, this group is hand selected to be voted into the illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara by the deviants who made this process in the first place and / or their enablers.

4. There are no other groups available, you have to select from the above. Rather amazing, Hari Parsad says we should "seek guidance" from the homosexual and pedophile messiah's project's leaders.

5. OK someone tried to tell me Radhanath should not be included in any of this because he has "reformed and rectified." Sorry, he is the co-founder father of the New Vrndavana Auschwitz for kids project, which was condemned by the Dallas courts as "the worst cases of child abuse seen in this court." Neither does an acharya require reform. 

And then he helped bury Kirtanananda in a samadhi. Same things with Lokanath swami, well yes he is a pervert, but he has apologized and rectified. Nope, he promised the victim he would not hold a post, but he still does -- ok he is a fraud liar. 

This of course begs the question, where does Srila Prabhupada say the five years old children will be in charge of selecting gurus for ISKCON? And if the children select the founders of Auschwitz for kids as their messiahs, it is because they did not study the shastra? Or worse, it is their karma. 

Sorry, the five years olds do not need to be cautious in selecting gurus, you leaders need to be cautious. Mula Prakriti das said to me "You (PADA) just want to make a Nuremburg Trial for the leaders because you are offending our seniors"! Umm, well yeah, Nuremburg trials are required for the operators of Auschwitz. That is the normal process. That is required for accountability and justice. 

So -- all these Hari Parsad people are doing is AGAIN pouring salt into the wounds of the child victims AGAIN, by blaming the victims AGAIN for -- selecting Auschwitz co-operators -- as their gurus. The kids did not make this choice, they were frog marched into Auschwitz by the ISKCON leaders. 

When are they going to quit blaming their victims and take responsibility for their creating Auschwitz, not -- the victims? This is horrendous, the people who ended up in Auschwitz -- made bad choices -- and they made the choice -- to be in Auschwitz. WTF! ys pd

angel108b@yahoo.com 

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November 12th, 2025

From Justice For Srila Prabhupada Foundation

Digging in Their Heels

We’ve noted on the Bhaktivedanta Institute for Higher Studies (BIHS) facebook page a posting dated October 14, 2025, announcing that BIHS has officially named its library, the Tamal Krishna Goswami Memorial Library. That posting includes pictures of members of BIHS under a plaque commemorating the Tamal Krishna Goswami Memorial Library. There is a comment on that posting, exclaiming, “Jaya Tamal Krishna Goswami!”, and another comment asking, “Why?”.

We offer here, for the consideration of our readers, some conjecture in response to “Why?” Some have written to Justice for Srila Prabhupada Foundation (JFSPF) expressing that it seems to them, curious, perhaps strange, that BIHS didn’t dedicate their library to Srila Prabhupada. Peculiar, particularly considering that, as far as we’re aware, Tamal Krishna Gosvami wasn’t, relative to several others, particularly involved with the projects of Bhaktivedanta Institute.

He wasn’t amongst the founding members of Srila Prabhupada’s Bhaktivedanta Institute. Those charter members, from December 10, 1976, were Dr. Svarup Damodar das (Thoudam D. Singh, Ph.D.), Dr. Sadaputa das (Richard Thompson, Ph.D.), Dr. Rabindra Swarup das (William H. Deadwyler, Ph.D.), Dr. Madhava das (Michael Marchetti, Ph.D.), and Rupanuga das (Robert F. Corens). Others, such as Robert S. Cohen (Brahmatirtha dasa) and D.J. Webb (Jnana dasa) were also very involved in the beginning stage of the Bhaktivedanta Institute. We are not saying that Tamal Krishna Gosvami did not at all participate in the Bhaktivedanta Institute, in the 1970s, and after that. Still, we are left to wonder about dedicating the library to him, considering his relatively lesser involvement, compared with many others.

On November 2nd, 2024, the ISKCON GBC Executive Committee wrote to JFSPF, “The GBC acknowledge receipt of your letter of September 16, 2024 and pack of material. We are ready to meet with you and discuss the subject matter of the letter. We have requested the Bhaktivedanta Institute for Higher Studies to provide technical support to the GBC EC on this matter. Please provide to them all of the back-up of your data and give them direct access to the Truth Labs to review your alleged new evidence. In this way we can be prepared for a discussion.”

And, for more than a year, representatives of JFSPF have been meeting and discussing with representatives of BIHS, particularly the Executive Director, Brahmatirtha Prabhu (Mr. Bob Cohen). So, top-level representatives of BIHS are very aware of the evidence indicating that Srila Prabhupada was given poison with homicidal intent by persons close to him in 1977, and this includes understanding that Tamal Krishna Goswami is a primary suspect in this unsavory event. This evidence includes, most primarily, Srila Prabhupada’s own words, and, also, forensic toxicology, audio and medical findings that support Srila Prabhupada’s words, that he was being administered poison.

Since the year 2000, and to this day, the ISKCON GBC’s official stance is, “There is no evidence at this time to support the allegations of poisoning of Srila Prabhupada.” We suggest that BIHS dedicating its library to Tamal Krishna Goswami is a sort of, digging in its heels, not permitting the door to open even a sliver, to the possibility that Srila Prabhupada was assassinated by poison.
We’re not even speaking here of, conclusive evidence, or, even, of a preponderance of evidence, but, rather, at least, reasonable cause to suspect, that perhaps Srila Prabhupada was deliberately given poison. The library dedication seems to be a stance that states, “Srila Prabhupada’s statements constitute no evidence. 

The professional audio forensic analyses amount to nothing, zero, and the same for the detailed professional toxicology and medical reports”.
It seems to us that organizational leadership fears that, to give even the slightest credence to the possibility that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned by persons close to him, would devastate embedded institutional structures.

Our stance, as we’ve consistently expressed, is that the ISKCON GBC statement, “There is no evidence at this time to support the allegations of poisoning of Srila Prabhupada”, is a farce, a sham, and a mockery.

"The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see." – Ayn Rand

We assert that it is glaringly evident that there is strong, credible evidence, that the GBC’s “no evidence” position is absurd.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." – Upton Sinclair

“Salary”, of course, can mean, monetary reciprocation, and also it can imply, image, status or standing, in a community, or, adoration, popularity, distinction, or fulfillment of a need for approval. Each of us has opportunity here to consider the extent to which attachment to “salary”, has prevented us from thoughtfully applying our heart and intelligence, to the realities surrounding Srila Prabhupada’s departure.

We encourage readers to research this topic for themselves, and below are some links to assist in that endeavor.

September 16, 2024 Cover Letter Link:

https://justiceforsrilaprabhupadafoundation.org/.../Vital...
and Forensic Reports Link:
https://justiceforsrilaprabhupadafoundation.org/.../Salie...
In addition, you can hear Srila Prabhupada’s words, from November 1977, at
https://justiceforsrilaprabhupadafoundation.org/.../Versi...
Your Servants, JFSPF Team

Madhusudana Russia VS Chat GPT / Delhi Bomb Blast 11 11 25

 

Madhusudana Dasa Russia: You don't know Sanskrit well, and that's why it's funny. Sva in this case isn't translated as "in and of itself," but refers to something personal, something one's own. For example, "sva-print" is one's own seal, a personal imprint, not something the printer prints on its own, and so on.
This "Prabhupada said" thing again. Where are the quotes? I don't take your word for it. 

Either you back up every word with quotes, or this is just trolling. I'm not angry, I'm laughing at you. You're like ordinary old men who constantly talk and can't stop, spouting nonsense and fabrications. And the constant "Prabhupada said." Prabhupada said that I am a ritvik king.

And study what sva means and how it's translated. So it doesn't just sound like kva-kva. You just need to become a little more linguistically literate. We have sva, and you only have kva. Kva-kva.

PADA: We already know what the sanskrit of sva-diksha means, it is a mayavada idea. Read: There is no need for a guru, you are your own guru. It is very common idea among Mayavadas. But yeah, you have produced zero quotes where Srila Prahbupada recommends sva-diksha. I have to produce quotes where Srila Prabhupada condemns the mayavadas? Are you reading any of his books?

[CHAT GPT: Sva-dīkṣā refers to self-initiation — a spiritual practice where one undertakes initiation independently, without a formal guru. This concept appears in various Hindu and yogic traditions, often in contrast to guru-dīkṣā, where initiation is bestowed by a qualified teacher. 

Here's a deeper look:

Meaning of Sva-dīkṣā: Sanskrit breakdown: Sva = self; dīkṣā = initiation or consecration. Definition: A form of spiritual initiation undertaken by an individual on their own, often through personal resolve, scriptural study, or inner guidance, rather than through a formal guru-disciple ceremony.] 

PD: So yeah, we all know already what is means, it is a mayavada concept. Even CHAT GPT knows it is mayavada. I am linguistic enough to know sva means oneself, diksha means initiation, therefore one initiates oneself, one is one's own guru, and this is verified as I have shown and proven herein. 

Meanwhile, there is no sva-diksha movement which can print and distribute books, or do anything practical, so it is more or less a phantasm that has no substance in Vaishnava circles. I am not fabricating anything, Srila Prabhupada does not recommend sva-diksha. And the mayavadas and CHAT GPT give us the exact same meaning I have already given, you are your own guru. And you want to make everyone else their own guru, and this is called mayavada.

That is not the Vedic process. You also did not answer how the books will sva-print and sva-distribute themselves either. You are avoding the whole question of how your system will function. Anyway, sva-diksha is mayavada, we knew all that all along from the 1970s. 

So you are going to initiate yourself and make others initiated by themselves, and nothing will ever come of it, there is no practical effect, just like the mayavadas. You don't want a manager for the shoe store, because then he will be controlling things, ok but without a controlled organization, nothing gets done. The shoe shop has to close, there is no one to administer it. 

Srila Prabhupada's vision for ISKCON emphasized the importance of manpower, land, capital, and organization in the service of Krishna. He believed that these elements were essential for the success of the movement and the spiritual upliftment of the devotees. OK there has to be a system of leaders for any organized anything. Nothing will ever come of your sva-diksha movement, it cannot organize making a cookie sale table at the flea market.

I have verified what these terms mean, and this has verified what I said in the first instance. And you have shown zero quotes where Srila Prabhupada authorizes the sva-diksha process. It is speculation and mayavada. ys pd 

angel108b@yahoo.com

Sva-diksha. Wow, quoting the mayavadas.

Srila Prabhupada says these mayavadas will glide down

to lower births -- because they reject Vedic authority,

and they artificially make themselves the authority.

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DELHI BOMB BLAST

PADA: I have always wondered, what is the good outcome strategy here? We are going to blow up some people on an airplane, at the mall, sitting in a coffee shop, or in their cars in this case, and this is going to fix -- what? This is going to make people flock over to the Muslim Church and Mosque and say -- sign me up! 

I love what you guys are doing for humanity! 

Ummm, nope, it is going to sow distrust of the Muslim brand, and want their brand of people to be seen as potential criminals, if not potential mass murderers. It is not helping the brand, at all. Or worse, it is making people disgusted with the brand, if not frightened of the brand. OK it is not helping spread the faith, it is turning people away from it. 

ISKCON has done the same essentially. The ISKCON brand has been tainted and tarnished and badly. People are not coming to join. When Harivilas presented the book Monkey On A Stick to the GBC meeting, Ravindra Swarupa took the book off the table and put it into the trash. 

He said -- we do not care what the karmis think, we are Krishna devotees. Umm, we do not care what the senior devotees think, or their children, or the law enforcement folks, or the media, or the courts, and especially we do not care about the reputation of Srila Prabhupada and Krishna. Nor do we care what Srila Prabhupada has to say. We only care about supporting our illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's project, and orchestrated banning, beating, suing and killing dissenters, to save our pedophile messiah's project. That saved -- what?

Anyway now they are talking about Tehran having to evacuate: 

Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian “If Tehran does not get rain by Azar [Iranian calendar month starting on 22 November], we will have to ration water. And if it still does not rain after that, we will have to evacuate the city,” the president said during his visit to the north-western Kordestan Province on November 6, according to the Entekhab.ir website.

OK but simultaneously Iran has been spending billions on weapons for the Hezbollah, Hamas and Houthi guys. And ISKCON was feeding rotting oatmeal to the school kids, but simultaneously has had a spare $100,000,000 on hand to buy Luis Vuitton suits for lawyers. Same thing, what about helping your own citizens? And how does this attract others to your cause? It doesn't, it makes it look very foolish and fanatical, and -- not a bona fide religion -- but a political manipulation cult meant to benefit a few elites. 

Anyway now India will maybe eventually trace this back to Pakistan, and make another war potential. And I think that is the goal here, get everyone to blow each other up -- and we will all die in the Jihad, and then have 72 virgin girlfriends in heaven. Well maybe not. In any case, they are not helping their own cause by doing all this, and neither has ISKCON's leaders. In Kali Yuga, irreligion becomes  religion, and we see that in spades. 

No one is allowed to kill any other living entity for no just reason, which is why I am carefully pulling up the rocks in my garden trying not to harm the many beetles and spiders under them. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

People are going to think:

Worshiping God is a BAD IDEA.

It is ruining the brand.

JPS / PADA vs MD / Legal Expense / Schism 11 10 25

 

PADA: OK except Jayapataka has us banned, beaten, sued and killed. I fail to see how this will unite all the groups? When are the Jayapataka people going to allow back all of the ritviks? According to this video, the Gaudiya Matha people, BV Puri people, and other groups are allowed into ISKCON, and on top of that the GBC is trying to join hands with the mleccha dharma meat eating religions like the Christians, Muslims and Jews, but never -- the ritviks? We keep seeing photos of the GBC guys hanging out with the mleccha dharma leaders, but not us? ys pd  

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PADA vs Madhusudan Russia: Yep, you are right! The books will sva-print themselves, sva-distribute themselves, temples will sva-build themselves, deities will sva-appear in these temples, and sva- worship themselves, and none of us are needed. Ooops! Even a five years old child knows this will never sva-happen on its own, because even children know that people are required for all of this. 

Srila Prabhupada never says all of this will all sva-happen on its own without the work of his devotees. Rather he says it is our duty to do all these works. 

And some person asked me -- just now -- if any of the sannyasa in ISKCON are bona fide. I should not answer him, because he will sva-answer himself. That means you are angry we are helping others and not allowing them to sva-speculate on their own. Of course, I am going to answer this person and not tell him to sva-answer himself. It is our duty to help others in the process.

Sorry, we ritviks monkeys are helping people and not telling them to sva-realize everything on their own, telling the deity to sva-worship itself etc., this is basically atheist idea. All of these services are required, and people are needed to do all these services, and that is the order of the acharya. 

Yep, we are also suing people for mistreating children, also not needed, let the children sva-suffer without our help. Sorry, nope, it is our duty to help these children. The idea that all services to Krishna do not require us people -- but will all sva-happen without any of us devotees doing the work, means you want Krishna to do all the work. That is not the system. 

Today I am doing my laundry, and that is because I do not expect Krishna to sva-come over here and do it for me. Is someone not taking their medications? 

hee hee. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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PADA: Yep, the GBC people complained to me that I cost them $100,000,000 in legal fees. Prabhupada was against spending all this money on lawyers. ys pd

You have to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra against the demons. Just like in Australia, the demons have instituted a case against us, a big case by the city authorities. So what can be done? They wanted to appoint big, big lawyers. I have advised, 'Don't appoint lawyers. You go on chanting. They may put you in the jail. So you go on chanting.' What is that? 

You chant on the street or chant on the jail, they're the same thing. So don't be afraid. They'll take you in the jail, 'Go on, Hare Kṛṣṇa.' We have got one means. Nārāyaṇa-parāḥ sarve na kutaścana bibhyati: (SB 6.17.28) 'Those who are devotees, they are not afraid of anything.' Svargāpavarga-narakeṣv api tulyārtha-darśinaḥ: 'Either they're sent in the heavenly planet or in the hell planet, it doesn't matter.' We want simply to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and remember Kṛṣṇa. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It doesn't matter whether it is in the hell or heaven."
(Srila Prabhupada Lecture, Los Angeles, September 13, 1972)

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GBC Brazil "woke up" from their slumber

BRAZILIAN GOVERNMENTAL COUNCIL (CGB) COMMISSION

Pindamonhangaba, 22 OCTOBER 2025.

The Executive Committee of the CGB received from the CPO Brazil (Office of Child Protection) the report 003/2025 which sets out compliance criteria for the restrictions imposed on Ramadhanu das.

The resolutions of the CPO must be fully fulfilled by Ramadhanu das; and their total compliance MUST BE monitored by the Presidents of Temples and Rural Projects, who will also respond in case of non-compliance with protective measures.

In case Ramadhanu fails to comply with any of the protective measures, it will be subject to action before CPO International and GBC International for its disconnecting from ISKCON.

Any member of ISKCON facilitating non-compliance with these measures, either by intentional action, negligence or omission, which is blatant, notorious and proven, may be subject to Disciplinary Administrative Process (PAD) for disobedience or complicity in non-complyance.

The same applies to any ISKCON member who, from the publication of this notification, apologizes publicly for non-compliance with these measures.

Your servant,
Digitally signed document
MARCELO DA COSTA FONSECA
Date: 24/10/2025 08:19:24-0300

Mayapur Candra das

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How Schisms Begin

By Narasimha das

Recently a regular public harinama sankritana program of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples was joined by the followers of a departed self-appointed “guru” who has “re-initiated” some of Srila Prabhupada’s fallen disciples and often tried to insult or minimize Srila Prabhupada in various other ways. These followers came to distribute transcripts of this poser’s lectures and sing his so-called pranam mantras. 

These folks often say there are many living diksa-gurus and “jagat-gurus” who are equal to (or almost equal to) Srila Prabhupada, although none of these fellows can doing anything tangible to increase the Krishna consciousness movement around the world. Indeed, they and their followers distract from Srila Prabhupada’s real mission, as do the fallen leaders of the vitiated iskcon cults.

These leaders and their followers try to minimize and insult Srila Prabhupada and his disciples as soon they hear that Srila Prabhupada is the real acharya for this age. They are infuriated when devotees try to politely explain that he ordered ritvik initiations for the future of the Krishna consciousness movement. 

They foolishly say, “Ritvik philosophy is offensive!” And they accuse faithful devotees of being narrow-minded and sectarian. [Note: the term ritvik was instructed by Srila Prabhupada. It is a bona fide Vedic term mentioned many times in Bhagavatam and throughout the Vedas. It is not a “vada”, or philosophical interpretation, but rather refers to a practical system of sadhana by which priests conduct Vedic sacrifices under the auspices of the self-realized acharya.]

The parallels between modern-day deviants and the deviated disciples of Srila Advaitacharya are clear when one carefully studies the purports of Srila Prabhupada and Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati. The real acharyas for this age have explained how schisms begin among the followers of the bona fide spiritual master. And they have explained why such concocters are ruined in due course.
“Some of the disciples strictly accepted the orders of the acharya and others deviated, independently concocting their own opinions under the spell of daivi-maya.” (Cc. Adi 12.9)

“This verse describes the beginning of a schism. When disciples do not stick to the principle of accepting the order of their spiritual master, immediately there are two opinions. Any opinion different from the opinion of the spiritual master is useless. One cannot infiltrate materially concocted ideas into spiritual advancement. That is deviation. There is no scope for adjusting spiritual advancement to material ideas.” (Cc. Adi 12.9, Purport)

The reference above specifically refers to the schism among the disciples of Sri Advaita. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura elaborates on this point in his purports of Sri Chaitanya Bhagavat by explaining that some of the followers of Sri Advaitacharya wanted to worship Him as Krishna Himself rather than as the topmost Vaishnava worshipper of the Supreme Personalities of Godhead, Sri Sri Gaura-Nitai. In this way they tried to minimize Lord Nityananda as being inferior to Sri Advaita and thus distracted from the understanding that only Lord Chaitanya is Krishna Himself and that He is approached only through the mercy of His direct counterpart, Sri Nityananda Prabhu.

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta explains, “By the mercy of Sri Nityananda one can recognize Vaishnavas headed by Sri Advaita, and only by the mercy of Sri Nityananda can one understand that Sri Gaurasundara is Krishna.” (Chaitanya Bhagavat 22.135, Purport)

“The order of the spiritual master is the active principle in spiritual life. Anyone who disobeys the order of the spiritual master immediately becomes useless.” (Cc. Adi 12.10)

“Here is the opinion of Srila Krishnadas Gosvami. Persons who strictly follow the orders of the spiritual master are useful in executing the will of the Supreme, whereas persons who deviate from the strict order of the spiritual master are useless.” (Cc. Adi 12.10, Purport)

Neophyte devotees often wonder how it is that there are many pitfalls on the path of devotional service, particularly due to so many pseudo-bhaktas and pseudo-gurus misleading newcomers. The great acharya Krishnadas Kaviraja Gosvami explains, “Paddy is mixed with straw at first, and one must fan it to separate the paddy from the straw.” (Cc. Adi 12.12)

Srila Prabhupada elaborates: “This example given by Kṛishnadāsa Kavirāja Gosvāmī is very appropriate. In the case of the Gauḍīya Maṭha members, one can apply a similar process. There are many disciples of Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura, but to judge who is actually his disciple, to divide the useful from the useless, one must measure the activities of such disciples in executing the will of the spiritual master. Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura tried his best to spread the cult of Śrī Chaitanya Mahāprabhu to countries outside India. 

When he was present he patronized the disciples to go outside India to preach the cult of Śrī Chaitanya Mahāprabhu, but they were unsuccessful because within their minds they were not actually serious about preaching His cult in foreign countries; they simply wanted to take credit for having gone to foreign lands and utilize this recognition in India by advertising themselves as repatriated preachers. Many svāmīs have adopted this hypocritical means of preaching for the last eighty years or more, but no one could preach the real cult of Kṛishṇa consciousness all over the world. 

They merely came back to India falsely advertising that they had converted all the foreigners to the ideas of Vedānta or Kṛishṇa consciousness, and then they collected funds in India and lived satisfied lives of material comfort. As one fans paddy to separate the real paddy from useless straw, by accepting the criterion recommended by Kṛishnadāsa Kavirāja Gosvāmī one can very easily understand who is a genuine world-preacher and who is useless.” (Cc. Adi 12.12, Purport).

Apparently not all who approach the Krishna consciousness movement are sincere in their motives. Similarly, not all students and teachers who approach the Vedic literatures want to realize the conclusive truth. Many only seek material wealth and power. In Srimad-Bhagavatam, Lord Krishna explains to Sri Uddhava how such insincere persons are misled and weeded out from true Vedic paths leading to pure devotional service. This passage below is cited by Lord Chaitanya, speaking to Srila Sanatana Gosvami:

"'There are many types of Vedic literatures and supplementary Puranas. In each of them there are particular demigods who are spoken of as the chief demigods. This is just to create an illusion for moving and nonmoving living entities. Let them perpetually engage in such imaginations. However, when one analytically studies all these Vedic literatures collectively, he comes to the conclusion that Lord Viṣhṇu is the one and only Supreme Personality of Godhead.'...” (Cc. Madhya 20.145)

In this age it is nearly impossible for most people to analytically study all Vedic literatures collectively. Fortunately, however, for the immense benefit of sincere seekers of truth, great teachers have done this work for us. All great acharyas, such as Ramanuja, Madhva, Nimbarka, Vishnu Swami, Sridhara Svami, Rupa Gosvami, Jiva Gosvami, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati and many others have given the exact same conclusions about pure devotional service to Krishna that Srila Prabhupada has taught—and is still teaching-- all over the world.

Srila Prabhupada explains the means of success and why personal motives for sense enjoyment are dangerous in the Krishna consciousness movement: "I have got this personal experience in my Guru Maharaj's institution. Different Godbrothers took the words of Guru Maharaj in different interpretations for sense gratification and the whole mission [was] disrupted. 

This is still going on for the last 40 years without any proper settlement. I am always afraid of this crack, but I am sure if our aim is to serve Krishna sincerely and the Spiritual Master simultaneously, that will be our success. That means serve Krishna and the Spiritual Master simultaneously with equal faith and serious vow, and then success is sure. " (Letter, Oct. 1969)

Hare Krishna. Om Tat Sat.

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Hindustan News: Trump Booed

PADA: Trump got booed at football game (Hindustan Times). Yep America is losing jobs, and does not have enough electrical grid to make a lot of new factories for more jobs. In other words, the endless promises of making many factories and "millions of new jobs" is not happening, along with many other promises that are not being met. 

People are gradually starting to figure this out, we are losing jobs, farmers are going bankrupted, importers are being bankrupted due to tariffs, more stores are closing than opening, the deficit is climbing more than ever. In short -- what was promised is not happening, rather things seem to be deteriorating. 

And boasting that we are the wealthiest nation due to tariffs, also makes no sense. Taxing the citizens does not produce wealth, it makes the citizens more and more poor, and less able to buy needed things -- like food, gas and rent. No nation has ever become wealthy by over taxing the citizens. Of course a lot of these people do not study history. 

Then again, the Supreme Court might rule against these tariffs, which will produce a logistics nightmare scenario of all the citizens getting their money refunded by trying to undo billions of transactions. It would be a logistical crazy town. 

And moreover, every time they say the prices are going down, when everyone knows the price of food is up, and tariffs etc. are making the prices of everything else go up, it just makes the leaders look like they think everyone is stupid, or the leaders are clueless. 

Anyway, this is called buyer's remorse, people got exactly what they voted for, and now they are realizing what they voted for. ys pd  

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MD VS PADA update 11 08 25

 

MD: Okay, let them do that, but at the same time, let them understand that they are under supervision, and that supervision is from the congregation—the people. They are not their own masters. 

PD: Right, so now we are saying there has to be a congregation, that means some form of organized preaching. That is what the Prabhupada devotees are doing. That means your sva-self diksha idea is false, there needs to be others involved.  

MD: And again: today you're a ritvik, tomorrow you're not. There's no need to idealize everything.

PD: People were coming and going when Prabhupada was here even, people came, people blooped, and so on.  Neophytes can make progress, and fail, and that is well understood by already by everyone. You are a devotee today, and not tomorrow, ok that always goes on, even in the 1930s.  

MD: Materialists can also contribute something useful, their technologies for better serving Krishna, but that doesn't mean they're now my authority and I'm obligated to listen to them in everything. 

PD: If people had been obligated to listen to me, almost none of the child mistreatment would have been committed. It would have been avoided. But no one is obligated to follow anyone, we all have free will. 

MD: Thank you for your help—they'll get their dividends, but we won't allow this to turn into a new tyranny and exploit the "you owe us for the rest of your lives" mentality. 

PD: Right, no one was ever obligated to help Prabhupada, and no one is obligated to help me just because I helped them. Everyone has free will, they are also not even obligated to serve Krishna, never mind me.   

MD :Why do ritviks think they're the ones making people devotees, and not Prabhupada? 

PD: Good question. Why are you preaching at all, and not letting Prabhupada do all the preaching? I forgot, you are the only authorized licensed agent of Srila Prabhupada, not us. Sorry, you cannot give yourself the only license to preach because you are the only pure representative.

You also do not know what Prabhupada said? He said us, his followers, have to do the preaching, and distribute his books etc. He never said he was going to do the whole thing. Srila Prabhupada is not going to come here and worship the temple deity, do the cooking, print the books and so on, that is our job. But his books will help others, but only if we put the books into the hands of others. Krishna is not going to print the books, we have to do that as OUR service.   

MD: What do you mean, Prabhupada is solely responsible; he'll take away all the sins, and we'll get the good stuff? Then Prabhupada gets everything, not just the bad.

PD: I never said Srila Prabhupada is soley responsible for anything. If someone is not following, then they break the contract and he is no longer obligated. He said that. He is only responsible for a sincere follower. 

MD: You're confusing terms. A sva-bhakta means someone who belongs to a certain tradition. 

PD: First of all, there is no such thing as a self made bhakta or sva-bhakta. Every bhakta has become one because someone else gave him some information. He did not find out about Krishna by watching football.

Anyway, now you are arguing with yourself. A person who is following a tradition is following others, not his own sva self. This is a contradiction, he is following his sva self, and he is also following the congregation and tradition. This is mixed up and makes no sense. The Mayavadas also have a sva self discovery system where you find God within yourself by your own self meditation, this is not our process.  

MD: What you're talking about is atma-bhakta. This is possible because bhakti, by its causeless mercy, can manifest both through the devotee and through self-manifestation within a person. 

PD: But the recommended process is to be given the instructions from a practicing bhakta, and not have to speculate on what it is endlessly. A person who tries to figure Krishna out on their own is going to have a lot of struggles, even I can see the struggles when people ask me questions. They do not see things automatically on their own -- except in rare cases. 

MD: Prabhupada supports this because it's described in Vaishnava teachings. A person becomes a bhakta even before diksa. And as I understand it, ritviks consider other bhaktas inferior until they undergo their ritual. This is again a hierarchy, like in the GBC. That's why they say GBC 2.0.

PD: So we are going to have a society with no leaders or hierarchy? Everyone will be running around with no cohesive organized process? That sounds like a monkey farm. 

No, there has to be leaders and directors even for a shoe store at the mall. Someone is the shoe store's boss, someone is the secretary, someone is the sales man etc., there has to be a governing system even for a shoe store, never mind an international religion. There will be no leaders, there will be no organization, fine -- then there will be simply chaos and monkey society. Srila Prabhupada wanted senior people to be leaders, just like any organized business or society. 

I also never even ask people if they are initiated or not, or by whom, when they ask questions. I don't see them as inferior or superior, if they ask questions I assume they are sincere. 

The ritvik initiated people here are mainly the people doing the pooja, not the rest of the congregation. Not everyone is expected to be initiated, and it is not even a big request here. It is mainly for the pooja. It seems to me you are against making the pooja. You say we should not have any ritvik initiated brahmanas, then there will be no one to do the pooja. That is not the process. 

MD: Sva-diksa doesn't exclude accepting instructions for the purpose of correcting sadhana. What's the use of any diksa, even sva-diksa, if there's no sadhana afterwards? Diksa is only the beginning, not the end of the path.

PD: Right, so people need to be trained in the system of sadhana. And they should not even get official diksha if they are not aware of the system.  

MD: Where was I against helping others? The concept of sva-diksa is precisely an attempt to help others.

PD: Telling people they only need themselves for their own process is not helping them at all. They need association and guidance, especially when they are newbies. There is no such thing as sva-diksha, this was never mentioned. People should learn from others already on the path, that is the system Srila Prabhupada made. 

MD: There's no need to change concepts. The fact that ritvik is synonymous with brahmana doesn't mean ritviks can use it as a cover for evil.

PD: Well you are also preaching and some people could say you are evil and you are trying to manipulate others for personal gain. Preaching is not synonymous with evil, although it may be in some cases. 

But you already changed up the whole concept, people do not need advice, they are sva-self realized on their own. We do not need the ritviks to help them, they will help themselves. Sorry, we are making new devotees by HELPING them come to the platform. Waiting for them to come on their own is NOT the system.  

Saying all the ritviks are evil is also not helping other people come to the process. There are many nice ritviks and you are evidently lumping in all of them as evil. Of course there are evil people everywhere, but we cannot lump in all of them. There are also nice GBC people, and some of them write me nice questions, and read my blog etc. 

I thus do not say all GBC people are evil, because they aren't. If I say all the ritviks are evil, and all the GBC people are evil, no one would ever read my blog and I could not help anyone. There are good and evil people in every situation, that does not mean all of them are evil.   

MD: You can abandon an old ship captured by pirates and board a modern, modernized one, adapted to modern times.

PD: We are re-establishing the original system.

MD: Another thing ritviks and the GBC have in common is that they turn sastra into a prison or use it to create prison-like conditions for their followers, ultimately making it easier for them to control them. Sastra is more flexible and understanding, addressing each situation with specific instructions.

PD: Well you are also preaching from shatra and also making the same prison? Anyone who preaches shastra is making a prison? Worse. They do not need shastra, just sva-self help, with no help from us? To say that citing shastra makes a prison -- and they should just sva-self realize with no help, has nothing to do with Srila Prabhupada's instructions. He said it is our duty to help others realize Krishna.   

Anyway! You are also controlling people with your own preaching. Preaching means -- you are controlling another persons perceptions and understanding. If you are not helping control their understanding, then your preaching has no effect. Of course that process can be exploited, but unless you guide a person -- and control their understanding and perceptions -- you cannot make them Krishna bhaktas. 

I have no idea how we are going to preach by saying citing shastra is a prison and we need to tell people to not take any advice from us -- and simply sva-self realize things without any assistance. That is not going to work. 

Our system is working, because it is the original system. We have to help and guide people. And yes, give some sort of control over them, to help them along. If I am going to drag a toddler out of the ditch, I have to take control of the situation. Sorry, that is required to make any progress. You say we are not going to take "control" of the toddler in the ditch, because we are against control of others. OK and then the toddler will stay stuck there. That is not helping anything. It is our duty to take control of lost people and guide them onto the path to Krishna. Otherwise, we are allowing the blind men to fall into the ditch. That is not the process.

ys pd   

As You Sow, So Shall You Reap.

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Bhajan Clubbing / John Joeseph / Self Diksha Update 11 07 25

Bhajan Clubbing? Oh my! 

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SELF DIKSHA?

PADA to MD: Right, you are against Krishna Kant / IRM, but you agree with him that we should not conduct initiations of brahmanas. OK except Prabhupada said we need to have 50 initiated brahmanas in Berkeley to manage the deities pooja here. He never said that we should stop the process of making brahmanas to worship the deity, and stop the deity pooja. Now your plan is to have no deity pooja, which is minus the program made by the acharya for the pooja. 

Some form of initiations are required for deity pooja, he said that and ordered that. You are not his boss. To say we should break the habit of making poojaris for Krishna is - not what he ordered. He said these programs are needed, and you want to make a Prabhupada movement -- minus Prabhupada's orders, and minus deity pooja as he orders. 

The idea of worship of a pure devotee was also not made by 20 years ago by Krishna Kant, it was made by Krishna millions of years ago. That is what I thought you said, we should stop the process of worship of the deity -- as ordered by the acharya -- and have no one properly trained and initiated as brahmanas in the temple to worship the deity. The temple programs he ordered should cease. 

That was never ordered by the acharya. 

Sorry, you did not explain any of this. Rather, you keep saying the trillions of years process of making pure devotee pooja was made 20 years ago by Krishna Kant, which is not what happened. Krishna makes the process, not Krishna Kant. 

Sorry, we should be making qualified initiated people to do Krishna's pooja, that is the order of the acharya, which means it is the order of Krishna. He never said this order should be changed or jettisoned. Meanwhile, the ritviks are the main people printing and distributing original books, or any books. Your proposal seems to be missing how that will be done as well? How will people get the divyam jnanam, or the books, if no one (ok the ritviks) are printing and distributing them? 

ys pd

PADA: OK MD, so let me get this right. The ritviks are going to be the people printing and distributing books. And they are the main people making original books, and suing the BBTI. 

The ritviks are also going to be the people who make temples, train people in pooja, and are making programs for the deities. And this is also called training people how to worship Krishna, and how to make temple programs and functions for these deities. 

The ritviks are also the ONLY people who are going to be making court cases against the GBC for mass child mistreatment, no one else is. 

The ritviks are also the ONLY people who forwarded the 1977 p*ison complaint tapes. No one else did. 

Then, after the ritviks are doing all this heavy lifting of making all these things happen, you walk in and tell the same people that our process made into devotees, you did not need any of our help, you are sva-diksha, you only need yourself, you initiate yourself, and thus you will learn everything all by yourself. 

OK well I doubt you will find many people who are becoming devotees without help from other devotees. Srila Prabhupada simply never said that everyone will just become sva-diksha / self made devotees all by themselves -- with no help from others, that is simply NOT the system he made. But go ahead, lets see how many people become devotees without any instruction or input from other devotees. Lets see how your sva-diksha, initiating oneself with no help, works.

I get nice questions from devotees from all over the place, thus I should tell them not to ask questions to me, just sva-diksha yourself and be on your own authority, no need to associate with us, and figure it all out on their own. That is not the process, to abandon helping others and let them sva-everything on their own without our help, our job is to guide and help people, that is the proper process, and we are. 

Again, you keep saying that the ritviks are something made up from 20 years ago with Krishna Kant, but Vedic priests have been around since trillions of years. 20 years is not trillions of years. 

If you are saying that people do not need other devotees to give them instructions, then yes, that is not what Prabhupada teaches. He never said we can abandon ship and let everyone sva-advance on their own with no help, that is against his orders. 

He said it is our duty to help and guide others, not tell them to sva-help themselves and learn everything on their own. They won't bother with a program that tells them -- there is no one to teach and guide them. They are on their own -- it is all sva-diksha / self help / no help. How will you even know if anyone is following your idea if you are against advising your sva-no help others. 

And if there are no trained brahmanas to do the deity pooja, that is totally against his orders as well, and makes Krishna into a stone statue that requires no care. 

You are the person making all these 2.0 additions -- that were never ordered by the acharya. And since everyone shall sva-diksha on their own, there is now no need for preaching or samkirtana etc., the citizens will advance on their own without any of our help. These are all speculations. 

It seems to me, the ritviks do all the hard work, then you annoint the people we helped get to know all these things -- as having no need for us. Thus eliminating us and being on their own, without us. That means you do not want to give credit to the people doing the actual work on the ground, and you want to credit yourself for helping them by telling them -- there is no help -- you have to sva-diksha yourself without any system to train or guide them. 

And all of these so-called self realized by themselves sva-diksha -- without our help -- folks will be your followers, because you are giving people the guidance --not to have any guidance, be sva-realized on your own power. 

You want to stop us from giving guidance, making yourself the only licenced agent. But help yourself by yourself -- see God within -- on your own etc. -- is actually another idea of the mayavada, find out the God within on your own, this is a feature of the mayavadas. None of this was mentioned by the acharya.

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New "Cosmic Krishna" Video / Hare Krishna Project / Russia News 11 06 25

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Premieres Nov 7, 2025 Podcast Episodes

“Building Bridges: Working together for Srila Prabhupada” PODCAST: Episode 191 – Friday 7th November 2025 

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We’re pleased to welcome Mahaprabhu Gaura Prabhu as our guest on this week’s podcast. Born and raised in the former Republic of Yugoslavia under the Soviet Union, he has been around the Hare Krishna community for over 30 years. Inspired by his grandmother, a devout Catholic, to explore spirituality from a young age – he met Krishna devotees on the streets after the fall of communism. 

Attracted to bhakti yoga’s message of love and inclusion, he has been an enthusiast for collaborative working within the Krishna Consciousness movement for many years. A disciple of HH Jayapataka Swami, he shares his guru’s vision and focus for grassroots, ‘community-based’ preaching projects. “We need to show that Krishna Consciousness is relevant and practical in the modern era,” said Mahaprabhu Gaura. 

Mahaprabhu regularly meets leaders and gurus from a range of Gaudiya Vaishnava groups as part of his seva to ‘build bridges’ within the Hare Krishna community. For more details, check out his Facebook page: 

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PADA: OK wait a minute. Jayapataka kicked me out of ISKCON for complaining about his Vaikuntha acharya Jayatirtha's illicit sex and drugs program. I said that a guru having sex with a follower is the same as a father having sex with his daughter, according to Prabhupada. 

So now we are worshiping a pedophile. And that will act like a magnet and attract more pedophiles to ISKCON, i.e. we will become what we worship, and it has done exactly that. And Jayapataka told me to take him to court if I thought this was harming the children. 

OK then we did take him to court for mass child abuse, for $400,000,000, and all he did then was run at me screaming like a wounded elephant when he saw me in LA, raaaaaarrrrrrhhhhhh! OK so when we followed his advice to have him sued, he was angry as fire. 

Evidently thousands of children are also victims of his program. And some of them took their lives and many suffer from trauma and all sorts of negatives -- for their whole lives, thanks to JPS making his homosexual and pedophile messiah's project. 

I just got another horrible report about an ISKCON center where two girls were abused, and when they began to report it, the temple and their parents put them into a mental home to silence them. And now they are suffering worse. 

OK and JPS also spends $20,000,000 trying to shut down a free food program for kids by jailing the managers of the program, after he was sued for not feeding ISKCON's children. But now all of a sudden, after having all of us banned, beaten, sued and assassinated, he is all about "inclusion." Ummm, we are not included at all?

But yeah, the ISKCON leaders go and meet with the Muslims, Catholics, Christians, Buddhists and all that, but -- not us? We are still the enemy. And so now they are suing our Krishna Books program to cease our printing of books. 

OK yeah, the followers of the JPS homosexual and pedophile messiahs program are welcome and pals with one another, but we are not, and that means they are not being inclusive at all. "Working Together" is a good idea, they should start by repaying the Bangalore temple for making all this legal expense, and they should welcome the ritviks back into ISKCON. Instead the temple congregations are more and more Hindus, many of whom are meat eaters and mayavadas. 

There is no bridge preaching if we are constantly being banned, beaten, sued and killed -- when we try to walk on their bridge? So ask this JPS guy why this is all going on like this since 1978? There is no bridge that we can walk on together as long as some of us are systematically banned, beaten, sued and -- killed. And we are told that we have to promote JPS pedophiles or de facto ones -- as God's successors -- if we want to stay in their operation. 

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Madhusudana Das (Russia news)

I see the ritviks as an attempt to build a GBC 2.0 system—an even more cunning version. The ritvik leaders—Krishna Kant, Madhu Pandit, and Sundar Gopal—have already demonstrated their worth and ambitions, and the crowd is following them.

PADA: Madhusudana Das There is only one process for going back to Godhead, for trillions of years, worship of a pure devotee. Even Krishna worshiped Sudama to show us the example.  

You seem to say the ritviks started all this process of the worship of pure devotees 20 years ago, but which has factually gone on since trillions of years ago. You have also so far not told us what is your better idea. Against everyone, which means, as Srila Prabhupada says, when no one else is the guru, you are your own guru. If you say Srila Prabhupada is the guru, then you are doing what the ritviks are doing, except, you have not even explained what your "better" idea is so far. 

Yes, no one should follow the ritviks and worship a pure devotee, they should worship -- whom? The ritviks were here trillions of years ago? I do not believe the ritviks started the idea of worship of a pure devotee, it is the standard for trillions of years. 

So we should not worship a pure devotee -- as the ritviks are doing, and worship -- no one? I am sorry to inform you, Krishna Kanta was not here on the planet trillions of years ago, the worship of pure devotees was already in motion long before any of us were alive here. 

Krishna Kanta is not the author of the Vedas, "acharya upasanam" was written thousands of years before he was even born. You never tell us what is the right idea? To worship nothing? I find it amazing that you keep citing people like Krishna Kanta and not Krishna or the Vedas. 

Krishna Kanta is not the author of the Vedas. Krishna says we have to worship His acharyas, or have His acharyas worshiped by their priests, for millions of years, and that is what the ritviks are doing. And if there is a better system, please let us know what it is. Worship of a pure devotee is not GBC 2.0, it is Krishna's order. You are mixing up the GBC with Krishna. 

The GBC is NOT Krishna. 

You never mention what Krishna orders, and He orders the system of acharyas and / or their representatives or priests (ritviks), and in fact Sudama is one of them. Why is it that Krishna's orders do not get mentioned by you? 

You are only talking about Krishna Kant, who is a conditioned soul. You also said that this point has been argued for 20 years, no it was made trillions of years ago, not 20? you seem to mix up 20 years and trillions of years, they are not the same thing. Worship of the pure devotee is what the ritviks have done -- for trillions of years. 

To say this idea was made 20 years ago, is -- false. This seems to be the whole problem, you and others are living in 20 years time, while the Vedas are living in trillions of years time. We have to be able to tell the difference.

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