PADA: Yes FC prabhu thanks for the link. A lot of people think that just by being in Vrndavana, especially at the time of death, one will automatically be liberated and go back to Krishna. Not so fast. Srila Prabhupada said there are a lot of rogues in Vrndavana, evidently they are committing aparadhas, and that will block them from going to Krishna. And he said the Radha Kunda babajis are living in Naraka Kund. And a number of them have criticized the guru line of Srila Prabhupada.
As for the ISKCON people, their policy of assisting burying deviants, homosexuals, pedophiles, porno swamis, debauchees, and the poisoners of pure devotees etc. in samadhis -- is about as sinful as it gets, to compare these deviants with the many other bona fide saints buried in the dham.
And thus a lot of devotees, even ones who live there or go there, are NOT going to be automatically saved. This is a big misconception. And the bogus people buried in samadhis there are for sure going to suffer very bad reactions.
Meanwhile a lot of devotees, actually most, or the bulk of Prabhupada's original disciples, are dying in mundane hospitals and they are not ever even going to the dham at all. Maybe a few of them get to visit for a short time. Srila Prabhupada wanted facility for his retired devotees to end their lives in the dham, but this was never implemented.
Most of the devotees were purged out of the society. For example one of the original lady disciples was living here in an old folks home, and her cigarette dropped out of her mouth by accident, and started her bed on fire, and she died in an old folks home. But I would say, that lady is way more fortunate than these artificial residents of the dham, and she will have a better future than them.
I think this is something a lot of devotees have failed to realize. Just being in the holy dham for a pilgrimage, living in the dham, being buried in the dham, or being associated with the dham in other ways, is not always a guarantee of going back home to God. And if one commits aparadha in the dham, one might be going to a lower destination.
I have been told by several accounts how some devotees died, and they had to have their faces re-arranged for a body viewing, because they had very distressed looking faces at the time of departing. In other words, just being in the earthly dham location does not automatically promote a person to the spiritual world dham. It might elevate a person, but if there are offenses, it can take a person down. ys pd
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Update Monday, later. Lajjarani is not able to overcome this lastest diagnosis, after a long struggle with cancer. She is now in comfort care, and nearby devotees and others are working to provide Krsna consciousness care. Thank you for your prayers. Hare Krsna.
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Lajjarani Cancer Prognosis
If any of you know Lajjarani dd JPS who served at New Talavana, please send her prayers. In critical condition in hospital in Portland Oregon. Suffering from bowel perforation and medical intervention is not working at this time.
PADA: Another cancer case? Anyway, offering bhogha to Jayapataka is not going to produce a good result, that is for sure. That being said, we wish this soul all the best and hopefully she will progress towards Krishna. New Talavan has had all sorts of problems -- and people I know wanted to go there, but they cannot stand Jayapataka, so they are not going/ ys pd
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ZOOM CLASSES
Hare Krishna BB prabhu,
Please accept my respectful obeisances
All Glories to Srila His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada
Prabhu if you are interested to join in our weekly sanga on Saturday and Sunday at 4pm Europe time or as your time zone for our weekly reading and discussion. We use to study only His Divine Grace original not adulterated divine books. On Saturday we read and discuss from the Bhagavad-gita As It Is 1972 Macmillan edition and on Sunday we read and discuss from the Srimad Bhagavatam dehli edition 1962-65.
Below you'll find the invitation and link on zoom, use the same link for both lectures.
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*Srimad Bhagavatam Reading & Discussion*
Hare Krsna dear devotees! You're invited to the weekly Srimad Bhagavatam class hosted by the Prabhupada Disciples Association. We're reading from the original 1962 edition of the Srimad Bhagavatam.
*Date:* Sunday, 03 Nov 2024
*Time:* 7 am PST (10 am EST / 3 pm GMT / 8:30 pm IST)
*Speaker:*
HG Yasoda nandana dasa
*Topic:*
"[SB 1.5.36] Transforming Daily Duties into Devotional Service: The Art of Remembering Krishna Through Work"
*Zoom link:*
Hope to see you all there.
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FAKE SANNYASA
I instruct my wife on this all the time. I’ve seen so-called senior Devotees male and female greet each other with hugs like Karmis, in places like Krishna house in Gainesville, Florida. The girls and boys openly mix. This is a big mistake. Even the boys who wear saffron are openly mixing with the girls.
In spite of all this in this western culture, if a girl and a boy, devotees begin talking and becoming attracted -- they should just get married. The leaders in bogus Iskcon our jokes.
The men become Sanyasis against Srila Prabhupada's 1977 orders no more Sanyasis. They actually subtly attract women. When I was a so called disciple of Bhakti Tirtha Swami, one of his disciples had took Sanyasa in Bogus Iskcon.
A African body devote named Vasudav Swami. My wife and I invited him to stay in our home and we set up programs for him at some universities and various venues. And in my association with him, I found that this man was actually not sanyasi material. he was a very scholarly person. He was working on his doctorate degree.
But I saw that he was always getting phone calls from girls all the time. And when we went to the programs, he was attracted to "preaching" to the women at the programs, always sitting down talking to them. I was a bit surprised. I would think to myself -- this man needs to find a wife. He had girls calling him all the time, seemingly asking him for advice. So these are the quality of Iskcon gurus.
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SRIDHARA MAHARAJA FOLKS:
OK but all these lawsuits happened because they did not listen to my original free advice starting in 1979 -- to contain the child mistreatment, or they would eventually have to face lawsuits. Prevention is better than the cure, if Sridhara had learned from all the devastation and people getting terminated, lawsuits etc. after 1936, he would not have made the same mess all over again, and made me a target for protesting.
And he would have told me you must protest, because worship of debauchees is bogus. Notice that Santa thinks $100,000,000 is an ant's fart, but Srila Prabhupada says -- anyone who causes Krishna's money to be lost like this will have to pay it back next lifetimes. That means Sridhara will be working hard to pay it all back, because he helped make all this loss. I was interviewed in 1986 and was seen by 23 million people. The Sridhara folks response was seen by -- what??? at most 2 or 3 people? Who knows, where is their response even? Oh its an ant's fart, sheesh! ys pd