GBC Fraud Expose / Child Abuse Case / GBC Heresies 12 10 25

PADA: It looks like -- if we investigate some of "ISKCON's properties," probably in almost any part of the world, we will find many of them are in various other legal entities and not ISKCON. For example "Texas Krishnas." Yep, especially after the Windle Turley lawsuit was made, they declared bankrupted and evidently, started to re-distribute various assets and properties into other charity names. All of this should be investigated. ys pd 

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ICC on Deity Worship

 

https://iisb.co.in/

PADA: When we were debating head scholar Sridhara Srinivasa dasa of the India ISKCON Scholars Bureau, or IKSCON Continental Committee (ICC), we asked him: "Why does the ISKCON GBC's guru program have homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks, drug addicts, porno swamis, criminals and assorted deviants in their guru parampara -- and has had the photos of these deviants worshiped -- as good as God -- on the altars"? Well that was the end of that, he did not reply. 

OK some of these ICC people complained that since PADA is from Western born mleccha culture, we cannot comment on these issues. Oh really? You mean that since we are Westerners, who knew -- when we were 12 years old children -- that deviants are not, were not, could not have been -- God's successors, thus we cannot comment on who is God's successor? 

But the India ICC is authorized, because their guru succession from God has illicit sex with men, women and children gurus, and or / those who are 2/3 voted in as gurus, like Bhakti Vikas swami? And all of this is part of the Madhva sampradaya, the Hari Bhakti Vilasa etc.? Hee hee, this means any ordinary Joe Six Pack hamburger eating person on Market Street knows better i.e. -- deviants WERE NEVER God's successor. 

But yeah, I mean who places the photos of homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks and deviants onto KRISHNA'S altars, and / or the people voted in as gurus by these deviated folks, and have them worshiped as good as God? Who does that? This should be taken into the Delhi court, the GBC's illicit sex "good as God" acharyas program is BOGUS! And an INSULT the Krishna and HIS acharyas!

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com        

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JUSTICE FOR SRILA PRABHUPADA'S CHILDREN 

A petition of more than 500 pages has been presented to the Supreme Court on behalf of more than 200 victims of child abuse in ISKCON’s gurukulas in Vrndavana and Mayapur! “200+”!!

Those 500 pages include testimonies from the victims, as well as CPO (ISKCON Child Protection Office) reports verifying the complaints. More than 200 victims, and 12 perpetrators identified. And more victims will undoubtedly come forward!

These are not “incidental” or isolated” cases. And they are not from decades ago; some of them are very recent offenses! These complaints underscore a systemic problem within ISKCON!

For decades, the cries of these children were ignored! For decades, these victims were cajoled and harassed! For too long, the perpetrators were allowed to continue their abhorrent activities! For too long, the GBC looked the other way! For far too long, justice has not been served!

The Justice for Srila Prabhupada Foundation has recently taken up attempting to rectify this matter. Initially, our lawyers presented petitions to the appropriate government-appointed bodies entrusted to investigate these matters,the National Commission for Protection of Child Rights (NCPCR), the Uttar Pradesh Commission for Protection of Child Rights, and the West Bengal Commission for Protection of Child Rights. When acknowledgement was not forwarded by these three bodies of authority, the matter was referred to the highest court in India, the Supreme Court. And on November 25th, the Supreme Court issued an order to these same bodies requiring them to proceed with a proper investigation into the allegations.

This is not going to be an easy fight! We will face opposition from ISKCON, and the resources needed for court filings, further evidence collection, and lawyer efforts will be extensive.

We are appealing to the worldwide Vaishnava community to please pitch in to help us in this battle for justice! Your help is needed NOW! Please donate today to support our determined endeavors. Please donate here:

https://justiceforsrilaprabhupadafoundation.org/make-a-donation/

Thank you for partnering with us in this effort.

You can view the Supreme Court Order here:

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Your Servants,

JFSPF Team

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NEW BOOK AND BOOK TOUR

Lucky You!

I will be releasing my new book 'WHY PRABHUPADA LOVED ME THE MOST" and will be on tour to promote sales of this wonderful record of my divine handiwork.
In order to bring me to your temple, please send a first class airfare, and be sure that there is a sankirtan party singing my name with garlands of different varieties of flowers for my pleasure.

If you are fortunate enough to have me come and explain why I am the world's best devotee, then please refer to my 11-page menu of items that I eat since I cannot tolerate the food of ordinary devotees. We can celebrate with 108 course feasts that you can cook for me.

I will require a few brahmacharinis to wash my garments. And , oh yes, I also need a Sanskrit scholar to compose in chaste poetry a prayer of obeisances to me which will be needed by all the disciples I will certainly attract in my book tour.
Also I will need a gurukula boy to serve my feasts and massage my feet. If your temple is lucky enough for me to find time to visit, you'll be into a real treat as I share the nectar of my glories. I need my own Vyasa Asan, so get out those hammers.

Advance orders accepted,. WHY PRABHUPADA LOVED ME THE MOST, $75.00, 10 pages.

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GBC vs. Prabhupada

Heresies of the Governing Body Commission Rejected

By Narasimha das

The Iskcon GBC philosophy on guru-tattva and initiations has evolved over the years. GBC resolutions regarding initiations and guru-tattva have been inconsistent and contradictory. It is hard to find two “Iskcon gurus”, GBC members, or Iskcon devotees with the exact same views on these topics.

Below is summary of the stance of the GBC today and in the recent past, with samples of their clearly implied philosophical ideas that are against the teachings of Srila Prabhupada. Immediately after each GBC idea, we have provided the correct understanding of guru-tattva and diksa according the Srila Prabhupada’s books, conversations, letters, and classes. Authorized references are cited at the end. Throughout Srila Prabhupada’s books there are many dozens of references similar to the few cited below.

GBC: The spiritual master may be a self-made guru who is nominated by his peers or followers and sanctioned by the GBC, an ecclesiastical board. There is no need for a direct, specific order from Srila Prabhupada to become a diksa-guru in Iskcon.

Srila Prabhupada’s siddhanta: “A guru can become guru when he is ordered by his guru. That’s all. Otherwise nobody can become guru.” (See below references 1, 2 and 10.)

GBC: Srila Prabhupada authorized the GBC to sanction and dismiss diksa-gurus in ISKCON.

SPS: “Mundane votes have no jurisdiction the elect a Vaisnava acharya. A Vaisnava acharya is self-effulgent, and there is no need of any court judgment.” Note: Srila Prabhupada authorized the GBC to select (or dismiss) representatives (ritviks), who initiate on His behalf. No one can be guru without the direct order of Krishna or His perfect devotee. (See below references 1, 2, 10 and 15.)
GBC: Lord Caitanya gave a blanket order for every devotee to initiate his own disciples.

SPS: Lord Caitanya ordered His followers to become gurus by asking everyone they meet to chant Hare Krishna. He never ordered all devotees to initiate their own disciples. Even Lord Caitanya’s eternal associates, like Sri Gadadhara Pandita, refused to initiate without a direct personal order from Lord Caitanya. Not all great devotees initiate their own disciples. “If everyone simply initiates there will only be contradictory results.” (References 2 and 3.)

GBC: Persons who are not self-realized souls or topmost Vaisnavas can be diksa-gurus if the GBC approves.

SPS: “Only a topmost devotee, a maha-bhagavata, is eligible to occupy the post of guru.” (See below reference 4.)

GBC: Spiritual masters must be sanctioned, overseen, regulated and, if necessary, disciplined by the GBC.

SPS: “The spiritual master is never to be an object of disciplinary action…” A genuine spiritual master is never to be regulated or disciplined by ecclesiastical boards. (See below reference 5.)

GBC: A spiritual master may sometimes fall down and become demoniac.

SPS: “There is no possibility that a first-class devotee will fall down…” -- “The bona fide spiritual master is in the disciplic succession since time immemorial.” (See below references 6 and 18.)

GBC: One may ignore, neglect, or reject his spiritual master who falls from grace with the GBC.

SPS: A genuine disciple never rejects the bona fide spiritual master. (See reference 7.)

GBC: A student of Krishna consciousness may select any spiritual master, according his or her personal tastes and the ecclesiastical conventions current in Iskcon.

SPS: "Srila Jiva Goswami advised that one not accept a spiritual master in terms of hereditary or customary social and ecclesiastical conventions. One should simply try to find a genuinely qualified spiritual master for actual advancement in spiritual understanding.” (See below reference 8.)

GBC: There are dozens of gurus in Iskcon and each is entitled to his or her own ideas and opinions.

SPS: “Guru is one. He has no independent ideas or opinions.” (See reference 9.)

GBC: Iskcon gurus who have fallen down, if rectified, may be reinstated by the GBC.

SPS: “A bona fide spiritual master is in the disciplic succession from time eternal, and he does not deviate at all from the instructions of the Supreme Lord.” (See below reference 10.)

GBC: There are various levels of spiritual masters, or diksa-gurus, and not all are uttama-adhikaris.

SPS: “The spiritual master is always considered either one of the confidential associates of Radharani or a manifested representation of Sri Nityananda.” Only such a Vaisnava can impart transcendental knowledge into the heart of a disciple. (See below references 4, 7 and 11.)

GBC: The bona fide spiritual master dies, like all mortal men, and thus becomes useless in the matter of initiating and guiding students of Krishna consciousness.

SPS: “The spiritual master is eternal…” — “He lives forever through his divine instructions, and his follower lives with him.” -- “He reasons ill who tells that Vaisnavas die!” (See reference 12.)

GBC: One must accept as one’s diksa-guru a man or woman who is living. A posthumous spiritual master, one dead and gone, cannot offer diksa and impart transcendental knowledge.

SPS: “The spiritual master is eternal.” -- “Although a physical body is not present, the vibration should be accepted as the presence of the spiritual master. Vibration—what we have heard from the spiritual master—that is living.” (See references 10 and 12.)

GBC: Students of Krishna consciousness whose spiritual masters have fallen from grace with the GBC may shop around for another Iskcon guru and accept “re-initiation” as many times as required for them to find an “Iskcon guru” who is steady.

SPS: “A devotee must have only one initiating spiritual master because in the scriptures acceptance of more than one is always forbidden.” (Cc. Madhya, 22.71, Purport)

GBC: Every senior Iskcon devotee, even a dependent woman or neophyte with no ability to preach, is eligible to initiate his or her own disciples. Srila Prabhupada, however, is ineligible because he cannot posthumously offer diksa. One needs a guru who is alive. A fully transcendental guru with a spiritual body is useless in the matter of initiating devotees after he is dead (posthumous).

SPS: “The spiritual master is eternal.” He is not limited by material considerations of time and space. “A perfect Vaisnava is all-powerful, just like the Supreme Lord.” (See references 7, 12 and 13.)

GBC: Not all of Srila Prabhupada’s instructions and orders are to be accepted literally or permanently. Some may be interpreted, altered, edited--or rejected as being outdated. For instance, his final order on initiations (July 9th, 1977), which he ordered sent to all ISKCON leaders and temples, is now obsolete and must therefore be rejected in favor of the current system for initiations created by the GBC.

SPS: Srila Prabhupada constantly taught that a genuine disciple accepts the spiritual masters instructions wholeheartedly. He never tries to dodge, ignore or subvert those instructions. (References 7, 12, 13, 14.)

GBC: At the time of his demise, Srila Prabhupada’s instructions and ideas regarding the future of initiations in ISKCON were vague or contradictory. He left it to the GBC to sort out the details.

SPS: Srila Prabhupada specifically responded to the question of how initiations would be continued in ISKCON after his departure by dictating, reviewing, and signing an official directive establishing ritvik initiations. He ordered that this directive be sent to all leaders and GBC members in ISKCON. Ritvik initiations were nothing new for ISKCON. The ritvik system of initiations and all standards had been current in ISKCON for several years prior. Nonetheless, through this official directive and numerous conversations instructions thereafter, Srila Prabhupada clarified it in detail and institutionalized the procedure to operate without his personal supervision. For sincere disciples, there is nothing vague or contradictory in His numerous. (See below reference 15.)

GBC: Iskcon is meant for recruiting disciples for living Iskcon gurus. Those who claim to be direct disciples or aspiring direct disciples of Srila Prabhupada are deviant upstarts if they accepted initiation or joined Iskcon after 1977. In the history of Vedic culture posthumous ritvik initiations have never been seen.
SPS: In Srimad-Bhagavatam and other Puranas there are many stories of ritvik priests conducting Vedic sacrifices under the auspices of a great rishis who were not present on the same planet. There are no injunctions barring so-called “posthumous” ritvik initiations. Prabhupada clearly stated that all ISKCON leaders and trustees now and in the future must be “my initiated disciples”. (See Prabhupada’s “Final Order on Initiations”, July 9th, 1977, Srila Prabhupada’s “Final Will” and “Directions for Management” and Conversation, May 28, 1977 at 

www.harekrishnasociety.org

GBC: Post-1977 Iskcon devotees may accept Prabhupada as their instructing guru and param-guru, but they need to take initiation from a living guru to get Prabhupada’s blessings and mercy.

SPS: Srila Prabhupada is both the diksa-guru and siksa-guru for all serious students of Krishna consciousness in ISKCON and elsewhere. Advanced disciples may also act as “instructing guru” by teaching devotees to accept Srila Prabhupada and follow His instructions. (See below references 8, 15 and 16.)

GBC: Vaisnava gurus are ordinary men who sometimes make common mistakes, and even great devotees sometimes become degraded under the Lord’s external maya-shakti.

SPS: “One should consider the Acharya to be as good as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. In spite of these instructions, if one considers the spiritual master an ordinary human being, one is doomed. His study of the Vedas and his austerities and penances for enlightenment are useless, like the bathing of an elephant.” (See below reference 17 and 18.)

GBC: Although Prabhupada accepted what he had at the time, his books had many errors. Although hundreds of senior devotees have chanted these verses and translations in Prabhupada’s presence and afterwards for many years, these sayings needed several revisions done by expert pundits.

SPS: “Mistakes, illusions, cheating, and defective perception do not occur in the sayings of authoritative sages.” (See below references 14 and 17.)

GBC: Unless the GBC sanctions diksa-gurus, the disciplic succession cannot continue. Srila Prabhupada is dead; he cannot order anyone to become guru.
SPS: The disciplic succession is continued not by the manipulations of blind clerics but by genuine disciples. “The Supreme Lord said, My dear Arjuna, because you are never envious of Me, I shall impart to you the most secret wisdom, knowing which you shall be relieved of the miseries of material existence.” (Bhagavad-gita As It Is, 9.1) When repeatedly asked who would be His successor, Srila Prabhupada replied, “My success is always there. Yes. Just like the sun is there always. It may come before your vision or not—the sun is there. But if you are fortunate you come before the sun… The sun is open to everyone.” (Conversation, February 12, 1975, Mexico City) – “Only Lord Caitanya can take my place. He will take care of the movement.” (Conv., Nov. 2, 1977, Vrindaban.) (See reference 7.)
Summary Conclusions:

It is truly said, “One bad apple spoils the bunch!” In this case, at least three or four bad apples polluted the entire GBC body, most Iskcon leaders and most senior preachers. Due to the poisonous ideas introduced by a few foolish individuals, leaders in Iskcon and the vitiated Gaudiya Math temples diverted these institutions from the correct understanding of Gaudiya Vaisnava siddhanta and sadhana-bhakti, particularly with regards to guru-tattva and diksa.
In the later part of the 1980s, the GBC officially banned all scriptural and philosophical discussions on the topic of initiations in ISKCON and labeled all devotees who wanted to follow Srila Prabhupada’s system for ritvik initiations as heretics, fools or fallen rascals. 

Today the Iskcon GBC is comprised mostly of disciples and followers of “Iskcon gurus”. Most GBC members and “Iskcon acharyas” from the 1980s have resigned, retired, died, become incapacitated, gone insane, or fallen from the path of Krishna consciousness. Others are preaching a sahajiya hodge-podge of Krishna consciousness and Hinduism. (Only one former “zonal acharya” has admitted his mistake and rectified it.) On the other hand, by Krishna’s grace, almost all of the original proponents for Srila Prabhupada’s ritvik system are still actively preaching Krishna consciousness as it is.

Some devotees ask, “What is the harm if I accept an Iskcon guru as my so-called diksa-guru as long as I follow Srila Prabhupada’s instructions?” The problem with this approach is that it involves conceding dangerous philosophical misconceptions and contradictions. It involves impure diet and association. The GBC’s disobedience is not an innocent mistake but rather a conspiracy to utilize Srila Prabhupada’s mission for personal prestige and gain. Such motives have polluted Srila Prabhupada’s movement with false ambitions, guru-aparadha, Vaisnava-aparadha and sadhu-ninda. 

Srila Prabhupada’s name, fame, temples and institutions are being exploited by deviant upstarts, and some of his important teachings are being twisted, minimized or ignored by Iskcon leaders as official policy.
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References:

1. “Mundane votes have no jurisdiction the elect a Vaisnava acharya. A Vaisnava acharya is self-effulgent, and there is no need of any court judgment.” (Cc. Madhya 1.220, Purport)

2. “A guru can become guru when he is ordered by his guru. That’s all. Otherwise nobody can become guru.” (Conversation, Oct. 28, 1975, Nairobi)

3. “Vallabha Bhaṭṭa wanted to be initiated by Gadādhara Paṇḍita, but Gadādhara Paṇḍita refused, saying, ‘The work of acting as a spiritual master is not possible for me. I am completely dependent. My Lord is Gauracandra, Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. I cannot do anything independently, without His order.’ ” (Cc. Antya 7.150,151)

4. “When one has attained the topmost position of maha-bhagavata, he is to be accepted as guru and worshiped exactly like Hari, the personality of Godhead. Only such a person is eligible to occupy the post of guru.” (Cc. Madhya, 24.330, Purport, citing Padma Purana.)”

5. “The spiritual master is never to be an object of disciplinary action…”

6. “A bona fide spiritual master is in the disciplic succession from time eternal, and he does not deviate at all from the instructions of the Supreme Lord…” (Bhagavad-gita As It Is, 4.42, Purport.)

7. “He opens my darkened eyes and fills my heart with transcendental knowledge. He is my lord birth after birth. From him ecstatic prema emanates; by him ignorance is destroyed. The Vedic scriptures sing of his character.” (Sri Guru Vandana, Verse 3)

8. "Srila Jiva Goswami advised that one not accept a spiritual master in terms of hereditary or customary social and ecclesiastical conventions. One should simply try to find a genuinely qualified spiritual master for actual advancement in spiritual understanding.” (Cc. Adi, 1.35, Purport) -- “One should take initiation from a bona fide spiritual master coming in disciplic succession who is authorized by his predecessor spiritual master. This is called diksa-vidhana. (Bhagavad-gita As It Is, 4.8.54, Purport)

9. “Guru is one. He has no independent ideas or opinions.”

10. “A bona fide spiritual master is in the disciplic succession from time eternal, and does not deviate at all from the instructions of the Supreme Lord…” (Bhagavad-gita As It Is, 4.42, Purport)

11. “The spiritual master is always considered either one of the confidential associates of Radharani or a manifested representation of Sri Nityananda.” (Cc. Adi. 1.46, Purport)

12. “The spiritual master is not the question of [‘living’ or ‘dead’]… The spiritual master is eternal--the spiritual master is eternal.” (Lecture, Oct. 2, 1968, Seattle, WA) -- “I will never die. I shall live from my books, and you will utilize.” (Interview, July 16, 1975, Berkeley, CA) -- “Although a physical body is not present, the vibration should be accepted as the presence of the spiritual master. Vibration—what we have heard from the spiritual master—that is living.” (Lecture, Jan. 13, 1969, LA, CA) -- “One should consider the Acharya to be as good as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. In spite of these instructions, if one considers the spiritual master an ordinary human being, one is doomed. His study of the Vedas and his austerities and penances for enlightenment are useless, like the bathing of an elephant.” (Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.15.26, Purport)

13. "Regarding the disciplic succession, there is nothing to wonder for big gaps. We have to pick up from the prominent acarya and follow from him." (Letter, April 12, 1968.) -- "...one has to associate with the liberated persons not directly, physically, but by understanding, through philosophy and logic..." (Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.31, Purport.) -- "Although the physical body in not present, the vibration should be accepted as the presence of the spiritual master. Vibration--what we have heard from the spiritual master --that is 'living'." (Lecture, January 13, 1969, Los Angeles.)

14. “So we follow that 'No Change Policy'. Not that because I think I have become now advanced, I change this to that. That means I am not advanced. My knowledge is imperfect. Therefore I am changing.”

15. “They did even consider with common sense—that if Guru Maharaja wanted to appoint somebody as acarya, why he did not say? He said so many things, and this point he missed? The real point? And they insisted upon it. The declared some unfit person to become acarya. And then another—‘Acarya!’ Another—‘Acarya!’ So better to remain a foolish [simple] person perpetually to be directed by Guru Maharaja. That is perfection. And as soon as he [the upstart] learns that Guru Maharaja is dead, ‘Now I am so advanced that I can kill my guru and I become guru.’ Then he’s finished.” (Conv. Aug. 16, 1976, Bombay) -- “If everyone just initiates, then there will only be contradictory results. As long as it goes on there will only be failure.” (From Phalguna Krishna Pancami, 1961.) -- “I shall recommend some of you to act as officiating acaryas. Ritvik. Yes.” (Conv. May 28, 1977, Vrindaban.) -- “So, deputies… These initiations --I have deputed my disciples. Is it clear or not?” (Conv. Oct. 18, 1977, Vrindaban.) See Prabhupada’s “Final Order on Initiations”, July 9th, 1977 at www.harekrishnasociety.com .

16. “I am the initiator guru, and you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing what I am doing. This is not a title, but you should actually come to this platform. This I want. “ (Letter, August 4, 1975.)

17. bhrama pramada viralipsa karanapatava, arsa-vijna-vakye nahi dosa ei saba:
“Mistakes, illusions, cheating, and defective perception do not occur in the sayings of authoritative sages.” (Cc. Adi 2.86)

18. “There is no possibility that a first-class devotee will fall down…” (Cc. Madhya 22.71, Purport)

Rage-Isvara / Help Stop Child Abuse / Karma Catches Up 12 09 25

SRILA RAGE-ISVARA / Robert Grant

PADA: Thanks for this MMD prabhu. Yes, Srila Prabhupada did say that we Western neophytes cannot understand one word of what Srila Sarawaswati was saying, because it is too lofty for us. Ramesvara is correct. 

Meanwhile Ramesvara himself did not seem to understand word one of what our Srila Prabhupada was saying? -- Do not go to the Gaudiya Matha; Do not make premature acharyas; Do not make homosexuals and pedophiles into messiahs -- and force our ISKCON children to worship your deviant pals. 

Do not have my disciples banned, beat, molested, sued and killed on your watch; Make sure our children are NOT being starved, beaten, and sexually assaulted; Make sure these rascals do not change my books; Do not let the molesting get to the point the society has to be sued for $400,000,000, and taken to Delhi court in 2025 for molesting subsequently; Do not make illicit sex with men, women and children into Krishna's successors.

Do not allow the sannyasas to live like Saudi Princes while the children are eating rotten moldy oatmeal; Do not let the women be used as cash cows and oil painting sales ladies; Makes sure the harinama samkirtana continues; Do not place the photos of sexual perverts on my and Krishna's altars. 

Make sure the young gurukula females are protected and not "going out on dates," and reportedly having intimate amorous relations, with -- OK bogus messiah people like Mr. Ramesvara and / or his cohorts. Do not let people touch your feet and take sins. Do not encourage fools like Jayapataka to take sins to the point he looks like he got run over by a truck. Do not leave your goondas in LA to become Jayapataka's beating up dissenters program.

And when all that and more is ignored and tossed aside so you could sit in a big seat for a few years and act like the reincarnation of Jesus, do not then go hang out in Mayapur which was called -- Auschwitz for kids by some of the kids who went there, and thus give that place your validation rubber stamp of approval. 

In sum, it looks like Ramesvara went way out of his way, indeed WAY OUT OF HIS WAY, to orchestrate a situation where us who want to follow Srila Prabhupada can be banned, beaten and KILLED for doing so. I am not particularly a fan of Naranarayan dasa, but he did say Ramesvara told him he has to remove 95% of Srila Prabhupada's disciples to make his program work, and that is actually what happened in fact. I believe NNV on this account. And Mayapur is also a place that is starting YET another million dollar lawsuit against the Prabhupada devotees, and is suing us for printing books etc.

Yep, ex-LA enforcer Ramachandra told us that Ramesvara was helping New Vrndavana come after us, to kill us. And then Ramachandra became a heavy crack addict telling me -- he felt guitly for supporting Ramesvara. Another life down the drain. And we might want to forget all this, but Yamaraja never does. 

In sum, yes it looks like Ramesvara wanted to make sure Srila Prabhupada's instructions WOULD NEVER BE FOLLOWED. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

     

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December 9th, 2025

STOP CHILD ABUSE IN ISKCON NOW!!

You can be a part of the SOLUTION!

For too many decades, child abuse went on in ISKCON’s gurukulas in India without rectification; the claims of abuse by the victims were largely ignored, minimized, or quietly covered up. Instead of the victims being given shelter or recourse from these terrible crimes, they were often harassed, denounced, and badgered to keep quiet. 

The victims had to learn to live with the pain, the shame, and the confusion of these horrible crimes against themselves. Sometimes they could not…and they ended their lives instead. That time is over. The Justice for Srila Prabhupada Foundation has taken up their cause. We have gone to the Supreme Court of India to seek justice.

You can help put a halt to this horrific abuse! We can’t undo the past and take away the nightmares of these abusive scenes. We can bring it to the attention of the proper authorities to seek sanctions against the perpetrators. We can seek compensation for these victims so they can get the psychological and sometimes physical help that they need to overcome these atrocities. 

We can bring it to the public's attention! We can let the institution know that we, as honorable followers of Srila Prabhupada, will NOT sit still in the face of this abuse. We must send a message to the GBC that we will NOT allow these crimes to continue. We must protect future generations of Srila Prabhupada’s children.

We have taken this issue to the legal arena, and we will not stop fighting until justice is done! Will you help us in this effort? Please donate today to support our determined endeavors. Please donate here:

https://justiceforsrilaprabhupadafoundation.org/make-a-donation/

You can view the Supreme Court Order here:

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Your Servants,

JFSPF Team

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THE NEW WORLD ORDER

PADA: Sorry prabhu but I do not see how the USA pivoting away from the EU makes any difference in real terms of the USA's world position? The USA is dependent on goods from China, and so is the EU. If anything, they should join together to make a beneficial counter China trade policy to fix their mutual problem. 

If they pivot away from one another, then China picks up the slack and benefits all the more. If the USA and EU cooperation breaks down, China wins even more economic powers. 

The new world order is the same as the old world order. America has been racking up trade deficits with China for decades, and racked up another $1T trade imbalance with China in just the past 11 months. We are more dependent on China than we ever were, buying most of our pharmaceuticals from them, and just about everything else. 

Meanwhile China has cancelled our Boeing and agricultural products orders, which is costing USA farmers, distillers, wineries etc. over a hundred billion dollars. Probably EU is not doing much better. The new world order is -- China is running the show more and more. The USA does not need its former allies like the EU, Canada, Mexico or anyone of them, OK maybe, but it does need its trillions of China products. Unless that is solved, we are not making progress, nor is the EU.  

ys pd

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Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur took a boat across the river Ganges and he came to Kuliya. And there was a big debate:

‘Who is going to get Gaura Kishore’s body?’ There were police constables there because they were so afraid there was going to be violence.

And Bhaktisiddhanta said, “I will take his body.” And the Babajis said, “This is bogus. This is nonsense.” At that time Bhaktisiddhanta was still a Brahmachari. They said, “You are not a Babaji, you are not a sannyasi. How can you touch the body of a Babaji?

We are Babajis. We deserve the body of a Babaji.”

Bhaktisiddhanta said, “I am his only disciple and I am the only one amongst you who is following his teachings.” He said, “My Guru Maharaj is absolutely pure and only someone who is as pure as him can touch him.

So amongst you Babajis, any of you who have not had illicit sex with a woman within 1 year, you come and take his body. If you have not had sex within 1 month you come and take his body; within 1 week, you can come and take his body; any of you who have not touched a woman within 3 days can come and touch his body.”

And the police inspectors, they said to Bhaktisiddhanta, “Should we do an investigation to find out who has done what?” Bhaktisiddhanta was so bold and he was so grave. He stood before all of them. “No need for an investigation. I will take their word.” But they were so fearful because they all knew they were guilty. And every one of the Babajis, one by one turned their backs and walked away. The police and the people, in general, were shocked."

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KARMA ALWAYS CATCHES UP

Those Who Ruin Others Will Be Ruined Themselves — 

This Is the Universal Truth

In the moral fabric of existence, an action is never isolated. The moment a person, along with his companions, willingly begins betrayal and harm toward an innocent being, the chain of consequences silently begins. At that very instant, the seeds of their actions take root within them, even if they remain blind to it.

They may continue to take demonic pleasure in tormenting the innocent, believing themselves untouched and triumphant. But reality does not bend to ignorance. Externally and internally, the consequences of their deeds are already unfolding. The fruit of action resides within the action itself. Karma does not wait for the law of justice; it germinates immediately in the soil of one’s own consciousness.
Even if the wrongdoer appears outwardly joyous and indulges in perverse delight, this is never a mark of strength — it is a sign of delusion. Only a mind darkened by ignorance can find satisfaction in cruelty. Their pleasure is not reward but distortion

Karma does not act only in visible ways. Slowly, the betrayer drifts away from inner harmony. Their heart becomes restless, discernment weakens, and character corrodes. They may not recognize this subtle ruin, but ignorance delays recognition, not consequence.

Externally, too, the law of cause and effect operates unfailingly.

Actions shape circumstance, and cruelty cannot escape its echo. The universe does not punish — it mirrors. What one gives to the world ultimately returns, sometimes delayed, sometimes disguised, but always certain. To injure another is to plant the conditions of one’s own suffering. The universe does not punish; it reflects. Cruelty ultimately circles back to the cruel.

A seed carries its future tree within it; likewise, every action carries its inevitable result. Karma is not merely a future judgment — it is a present truth woven into every deed. The act shapes the actor, and wrongdoing poisons the doer immediately, even before the betrayer notices.

Those who harm the innocent may believe they have gained control or dominance.
True justice is not enforced by hands nor by human intervention. It is carried out by the very nature of existence. To act against innocence is to act against one’s own soul and the soul is the eternal witness, judge, and companion beyond all worlds.

In the end, those who ruin others sow the seeds of their own ruin. This is not merely a belief — it is the universal law that governs life itself.

Cooperating? / Kamsahanta / Delhi Court Update ETC. 12 08 25

Cooperating with Mahatma's Illicit sex with men,

women and children messiah's club,

takes one to hell. 

And has already made ISKCON into a hell. 

Mahatma dasa / Martin Hausner

PADA: OK we should all cooperate together, but on what principle? When we said that it is wrong to promote intoxicated illicit sex deviants as Krishna's guru successors, we were booted out of ISKCON. And then "the troubles" started. We and our friends were banned, beaten, sued, hunted like dogs and -- killed. What kind of cooperating is that? 

The Berkeley Police told me to wear a bullet proof vest. OK the Police cooperated with me more than you guys ever could! In short, without the help of the Police, your program would have put me into the cemetary already. The rabbit will run and hide from the lion, because it does not want to surrender to the King of the Jungle without resisting. This is basic common sense, why would a rabbit like me cooperate with the lion who wants to destroy me, and kill me?   

And many kids were molested. And we ended up having to have ISKCON sued for $400,000,000, so we could have a number of the children left remaining in the Auschwitz for kids program liberated. But that was only partly helpful, because even after the lawsuit was filed -- the Bhakti Vidya Purna swami program was actually getting worse. And that is why we need another lawsuit, this time in the Delhi courts -- to address all this because -- you guys aren't.

And thousands of devotees were banished from ISKCON, and thus now we have hardly anyone who even knows how to play a mrdunga at the temple. Govinda Dasi says it is a Joel Osteen type Hindu-ized program. It has no real potency, and the Westerners are boycotting it basically.

So yeah, we should cooperate, but banning, beating, molesting, suing and killing Vaishnavas, all to support a homosexual and pedophile guru process, is not what we signed up to be cooperating for when we became devotees. Yep! 

Q: Why are we now having to help yet another lawsuit, for orchestrating all the child abuse, in the Delhi courts. 

A: The courts offer us more cooperation than you guys ever would!

Sorry, Mahatma and ilk, you guys should have cooperated with us, and helped us contain and remove these problems instead of being a cheer leader for these deviations. But even when I was 12 years old, I would never have supported a homosexual and pedophile messiah's and guru program, because even then -- I had a very healthy fear of God -- and I would have been worried about going to hell for supporting these odious offenses to God. 

To make criminals, perverts, drunks, porno swamis and pedophiles into God's successors is an insult to God, and woe be to those who promote that deviation. Therefore, we advise everyone to NOT COOPERATE with this program. And it is working, the temples are ghost towns. We cannot do a lot to save ISKCON, but we are saving at least some people from going to the darkest regions of the universe for participating in a pedophile messiah's club, which is where false gurus and their supporters end up. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com  

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KAMSAHANTA

PADA: Yes prabhu, this is very odd. Kamsahanta was against me releasing the poison issue, but obviously he later on embraced it. But rather than tell that to me directly, and start to work with our team, he tells some random media person in West Virginia he is accepting our idea. But never tells me.  

That means he was too ashamed for not agreeing with us in the first place, thus he did not want to admit he was wrong. It is all about saving one's ego and not about working on solving ISKCON's issues, even the most important ones.

But yeah, when these guys say PADA is a paid CIA agent, that means they are really saying -- only a paid CIA agent has moral fiber and character -- and thus knows that it is our duty as human beings to save children from homosexual and pedophile guru cults. These unpaid CIA guys guys don't know that. That means any average CIA agent is more advanced than them. Very odd indeed. ys pd   

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CHEATERS

THE CUNNING, SUBTLE OR GROSS CHEATERS REPEAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN THE SAME MOST OBNOXIOUS OFFENSIVE, CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES / ACTIONS / CHEATING ... WHICH VERY CLEARLY MEANS -- THIS IS A DELIBERATE PROCESS ... AND NOT TEMPORARY WEAKNESS.!!!

“Cheating and weakness are two separate things. Persons devoid of a cheating propensity achieve perfection in life, but a cheater is never successful. Vaisnavism is another name for simplicity. Cheaters are nondevotees. Sincere persons can be weak, but they are not cheaters. 

Cheaters say something but do something else. Weak people are embarrassed by their defects, whereas cheaters are maddened by their achievements. “I will cheat the acharya,” “I will deceive the doctor,” “I will nourish the poisonous snake of my sinful propensity with banana and milk, hiding him in the hole of my cheating propensity,” and “I will demand name and fame from the people while posing as a saint”: 

These are not symptoms of weakness but of utter deceitfulness. Such cheaters will never achieve any good. By hearing humbly from saints with a sincere attitude, however, one will gradually attain auspiciousness. After accepting tridandi-sannyasa if one remains busy with worldly activities, thinking that family life is more important than spiritual life or maintaining the sinful mentality of kidnapping Sita from Rama as Ravana did even while dressed as a devotee, then one is a self-killer. 

We are far from the worship of Hari. Even if we have weakness and have enough anarthas to last us for millions of years, we are not as misfortunate as if we possessed a cheating propensity. It is better to take birth as animals or birds than to take shelter of cheating.”

The Lion Guru Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Jagad Guru Prabhupada.

 from "Prabhupadera Upadesamrta"

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LIKE MINDS PROTECT EACH OTHER

Asociación Vaisnavas de España

The big problem with ungrateful hypocrites is that they think EVERYONE is a fool. They think there's ready-made dicks and then the fools who deserve to be exploited. The world is a save who can, a "fool last". That's why they hate people with principles. They only see them as other dickheads annoying them and competing for supremacy.

What a sad life of these idiots! Always filled with anxieties and fears in the struggle for existence. Repentance lies in sin. Lying, stealing, taking advantage of others, deceiving and disguising themselves are nothing but evils necessary for survival.

That's the materialist, no matter how dressed, what social position he has, how many disciples, fame and prestige. He's a poor devil with no faith in God.

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MISGUIDED SOULS

A misguided young man Tamal Krsna Kripa Das posted a video on YouTube on November 30, 2025 praising Anirdesya Vapu (previously Bhaktividya Purna Swami).

Anirdesya Vapu was named by the ISKCON Child Protection Office as the longest running child abuser, abusing children for over 40 years - children that were placed on his watch and in his care. Anirdesya Vapu physically beat children until they bled, molested children, and kept child molesters in his school knowing they were raping the boys.

Here is the link to the video. Please comment on it expressing your disdain, disapproval, disgust, or anything along those lines. This video is a slap in the face to all of the victims of Anirdesya Vapu and their friends and family, and frankly anyone who cares about children:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1wnSKwEFvU

I will also share links in the comments to all the ISKCON News articles referencing ISKCON's restrictions on Anirdesya Vapu, and Anirdesya Vapu's history of child abuse.

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DELHI COURT UPDATE 

Dated: 29-11-2025

To,

The Trustees

Justice for Srila Prabhupada Foundation

Alachua, Florida, USA

Subject: Supreme Court Order dated 25.11.2025 – Meaning, Impact and Next Steps

Dear Trustees,

We write to formally apprise you of the significance of the Court proceedings and Order dated 25 November 2025 passed by the Hon‟ble Supreme Court of India in Writ Petition (Criminal) No. 398/2025, Rajneesh Kapur & Ors. vs. Union of India & Ors., a copy of which is enclosed herewith for your records.

In the said PIL, Mr. Shekhar Naphade, Senior Advocate assisted by Mr. Ajay Garg Advocate and his team representing the petitioners placed before the Supreme Court extensive material on systemic abuse, institutional negligence, and suppression of complaints spanning many years and sought legal action by the child protection authorities. During the hearing, Senior Advocate Mr. Kapil Sibal appeared for ISKCON Mumbai. Notably, he did not dispute or deny any of the material relating to child abuse that we had filed. Instead, he attempted to divert the matter by alleging that the petitioners belonged to a “Bangalore ISKCON faction” and had other disputes pending in the Supreme Court with ISKCON Bombay. We made it clear that child abuse is not a factional issue—it is a humanitarian, legal, and moral crisis. The Hon‟ble Court also did not accept this attempt at deflection, and the Advocates for ISKCON did not even mark their appearance, as is evident from the Order annexed herewith—seemingly to create an impression that the Order was passed in their absence.

On 25.11.2025, the Hon’ble Bench comprising Justice B.V. Nagarathna and Justice R. Mahadevan issued a clear direction permitting the petitioners to submit a fresh representation or reminder representation to Respondent Nos. 3, 7 and 9:

 National Commission for Protection of Child Rights (NCPCR),

 Uttar Pradesh Commission for Protection of Child Rights, and

 West Bengal Commission for Protection of Child Rights,

and directed these authorities to consider the allegations and grievances mentioned in the representation/PIL within a reasonable time.

This direction carries tremendous significance. It means:

 The evidence we placed before the Court is serious enough to warrant statutory examination.

 The Commissions can no longer ignore complaints of abuse; they must investigate, summon records, conduct inspections, and act under the law.

 The process of accountability—possibly including FIRs („First Information Report‟ which is registered by the Police before commencing investigation in a criminal case), inquiries, and criminal prosecution—may finally begin.

 The attempt to portray this as an internal ISKCON dispute has been firmly rejected; the focus is now rightly where it belongs—on the protection of children.

 Above all, survivors who have waited in silence for decades finally have hope that their voices will be heard.

In compliance with the liberty granted by the Hon’ble Court, our office will:

 Prepare and file a comprehensive reminder representation before Respondent Nos. 3, 7, and 9;

 Annex to it all relevant materials, including the allegations and documentary evidence already part of the writ petition;

 Follow up for timely consideration as mandated by the Court.

Conclusion

The Order marks a positive procedural advancement in the ongoing efforts to secure accountability and investigation into the issues raised by the petitioners. It ensures that the matter remains alive before the authorities and that the concerns of the Justice for Srila Prabhupada Foundation continue to receive due attention within the legal framework of India.

Please feel free to reach out for any clarification or further instructions.

Please click the link below to read the Court Order

https://mcusercontent.com/b0869b38db09be688ebd084e5/files/e7a67f6b-a75b-8178-b1d6-ab8844fd0371/Order_25_Nov_2025.pdf

Warm regards,



Garg and Garg Advocates

ADVOCATES

New Delhi, India

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KRISHNA WEST vs Bhakti Vikas swami.

HM: There is a big difference between Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON and today's modern pro-western ISKCON. Hridayananda Goswami is one of the leaders of this modern Krishna Western ISKCON. But unfortunately he is not alone. 

There are many more ISKCON leaders from that group which is destroying the original Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON even more dangerous than Hridayananda Goswami, like Anuttama das, Parabhakti das and many others. Especially the frontman of this group, Kaunteya das, who recently wrote a very offensive book toward Srila Prabhupada originally entitled ' Sexism, antisemitism, racism and homophobia in Srila Prabhupada's teachings'. 

Later on he changed the title to "Tough questions, tough answers." He wrote this book on 666 pages and it is obvious that this number of the pages was not chosen by chance. Kaunteya is part of the Jayapataka group.

Hridayananda Goswami, Anuttama das and Parabhakti das, they all publicly supported this Kaunteya's book.The topic of this book is that ISKCON should openly reject some of the Srila Prabhupada's statements which are not in the line with the western doctrine. Our Srila Prabhupada, his ISKCON and his pure teachings are under attack from this dangerous group within ISKCON who are influenced from outside. 

Thanks to Bhakti Vikas Maharaj for publicly speaking about this issue with the request to continue this, especially if he can publicly speak about this new very offensive Kaunteya's book and expose him. He is like the frontman of this group traveling through ISKCON centers and temples, especially in the west and manipulating devotees like anything. 

All sincere followers of Srila Prabhupada and his ISKCON from all generations who sincerely work for his mission and who have full faith in his pure teachings and his absolute authority should come and unite all together to protect Srila Prabhupada's movement and his pure teachings. We should stand up to defend Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON and clearly say to this dangerous group that they should leave alone Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON and create their own movement and society where they can preach, write and speak publicly whatever they want in the name of their own created society outside Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON. 

Of course, Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON and his pure teachings can never be destroyed by anyone from within or from outside. All glories to Srila Prabhupada! Hare Krsna!

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Bhakti Vikas Swami citing Srila Bhaktisiddhanta.

To rule -- a kingdom is required, and to correct the king another person is required. He might tell the king, you are seeking private happiness while we are seeking public happiness, but we say, we want neither public nor private happiness ... we want only Krishna's happiness. The rulers have one kind of sectarian happiness, and the Congress people have another kind of sectarian happiness. We will not participate in any sectarian happiness.

We will join the party of Krishna's happiness. We are not worshipers of Krishna alone, nor of guru alone. We are worshipers of Krishna with his entourage. The topmost servitor of Krishna is sri-guru-pada-padma. 

*Gurudeva is guru (the heaviest, unshakable) due to his not taking possession of Krishna's property -- those taking possession are laghu (light, superficial, fallible).

Sri bhaktisiddhanta vaibhava volume 3

Deceitful disciples. Page numbers 67 Book by HH Bhakti Vikas Swami

PADA: It always amazes me how these GBC folks will say -- the guru is in possession of Krishna, therefore he is the heaviest. But then they make additions, saying gurus are also lighter than the karmis and are thus falling down left, right and center into severe deviations. 

OK so the person who is heavy with Krishna's presence is therefore -- falling into illicit sex with men, women and children left, right and center. And even the karmis are not falling into illicit sex with men, women and children, but the guru -- is? The guru is heavy by possessing Krishna, therefore, he is commonly a drunk, debauchee, drug addict, porno swami etc. That seems to be a giant insult to anyone who is heavy because he posesses Krishna? 

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Vimuktasanga Das

Please tag Mathura das Prabhu.

I can't as he blocked me for saying I don't want to cooperate with his three Narcissistic biographies. On account of his child sex abuse that he bragged to me about. How narcissistic can a person be to proudly brag in a pornographic way that he's e a child sex abuser.

He went berserk when I told him that. saying I'm confused but I'm not. We spoke of it several times as he wanted me to help remove boys version from YT. Mathura said it was seduction the boy said it was sexual assault of a minor.
He was proud of himself and I had two grandsons the same age. He's a Trump style braggart and pervert.

GBC Shenanigans / BVKS in Alachua / Kamsahanta Question 12 07 25

 

PADA: According to the ISKCON GBC, Srila Prabhupada wanted and ordered that conditioned souls -- including homosexuals and pedophiles -- would be worshiped "as good as God" members of the "parampara tradition of Krishna." And homosexuals and pedophiles would thus become God's guru successors in the eternal chain of gurus from Krishna. Ummm, the GBC wanted to make homosexuals and pedophiles eternal parampara members?

Umm, not what was ordered. But yeah, as soon as the GBC finds out people are worshiping the pure devotee, and not their homosexual and pedophile messiah's project, the dissenters can be banned, beat, sued and killed. 

Srila Prabhupada's final order is not a final order, Srila Prabhupada had said all along from the early 1970s -- do not make false gurus, and make a Governing Body and not hokey messiahs. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com  

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BHAKTI VIKAS SWAMI IN ALACHUA

PADA: Yes Bhakti Vikas is one of the pillar support team members of the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexuals and pedophiles as messiahs project, which bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas. Yep, Alachua is also a big Jayapataka program support place. 

And Mayapur is the head quarters of the Auschwitz for kids project. BVKS was recently promoting Lokanatha, another one of their pedophile messiahs. Yes, most ISKCON people have compromised with this project. And many still are. BVKS is a sannyasa disciple of Jayapataka, who is behind all the multi-million dollar lawsuits, and is the head honcho of Auschwitz for kids. Pranada was recently gloating that she got some promoting from Jayapataka, they are unfortunately in league with each other. ys pd

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Thanks MMD prabhu, this is my dealing with Kamsahanta dasa ACBS:

KAMSAHANTA / Keith Haslam ACBSP

PADA: Yes prabhu, in 1998 the IRM folks told me there was no longer any need for PADA, I needed to stop all writing, because they had made an arrangement for me to take a Caribbean vacation with Jayapataka paying my vacation bills. When I refused the deal, they got very angry with me for "spoiling the reform." 

OK I was not going to go along with them making the leaders of the homosexual and pedophile messiahs club "the new leaders of the ritviks," which means Jayapataka would also be my leader. Worse, they made this JPS deal behind my back without even asking me if I wanted to go on vacation and stop writing etc. 

  

(Prahlad's pal) Bhakta Peter: Too bad PADA is a pathological liar, he has his facts all twisted up and makes up stories about people for some reason. He basically shoots himself in the foot. Its hard for people to take him seriously when they reserach what he says and discovers his claims are fact and fiction mixed together. Yes, the info about the bogus gurus is correct, but so many other things are not right.

So many details about what happened in the past all wrong. Call Kamsahanta on the phone and talk to him yourself if you want.... Kamsahanta himself has pointed out many of your errors and holes in your stories. We have concluded you are on the payroll of Bangalore / Madhu bandit program or possibly even the FBI. I know they wont pay more then a couple hundred dollars a week... a cheap price to sell out.

[PADA: Yeah call Kamsahanta on the phone as ask him why buildings where homosexuals and pedophiles are being worshiped as good as God, and mass child molesting is taking place, are "our buildings." OK his buildings. He admits he owns buildings where homosexuals and pedophiles are being worshiped, and mass child molesting is going on. 

OK that saves Yamaraja a lot of time, these guys admit they own it. It is all theirs. PADA does not claim that these buildings are "our buildings," they are not mine in any  shape, form or manner. They own this hot mess, it is all "ours"!

Yes the homosexual and pedophile messiah's club has ALSO always said that our reports of child abuse are made up lies. And that is how they created a situation where thousands of children were abused. Rather amazing, they are proud they created all this suffering for children by calling us liars.  

Thanks Bhakta Peter! Kamsahanta simply mirrors what many of my other God brothers had said about me for quite some time, i.e. that our complaints about: (A) The bogus appointed acharya's program, (B) the child molesting, (C) the changed books, (D) the poison issue and (E) the exploiting women process and etc. are "all fabricated lies." Its what the false guru's program's helpers, including many of my God brothers, had said almost the whole time.

Meanwhile this begs the question, since many senior brothers of ours knew way more than us about the excesses if not deviations of "gurus" like Hansadutta, Kirtanananda, Bhagavan, Bhavananda, Harikesha, Tamal and so on, why didn't our other senior brothers come out and protest as soon as these people sat in Srila Prabhupada's vyasa seat? 

Why did they sit around and wait for us to say something in public about all this, years after the fact? And where were Kamsahanta and some of these other "brother" folks when me and Sulochana were the main visible public protest (according to the police and media).

My senior God brother Naranarayan das wrote about all the horrible things he knew about Kirtanananda from the 1960s recently, ok why was this not brought out in 1978, when it could have squashed these gurus, and saved a lot of people from a lot of grief, never mind all the police raids, lawsuits, child molesting, bad publicity, murders and etc.? We knew that Kirtanananda has a tendency to deviate, therefore we are silent when he is made the next messiah. 

The good news? At this point, a number of these God brothers have recanted and told me -- they made a mistake supporting this process. Yes, there are STILL various compromised types, odds and ends hold outs here and there, who are attacking me even today, ok fine.

As for Kamsahanta, he (and a number of similar ilk God brothers) were against my idea of suing the GBC over the changed books. Kamsahanta said this would upset his plan to "make a deal over the books" with the GBC. In short, Kamsahanta and many other brothers did not even understand the significance of having original books, never mind other important things. And they also mistakenly thought the GBC would act reasonably on this and many other issues.

The good news? Many of our God brothers have now said, we are right, the changed books issue is a HUGE deviation and even -- an aparadha to Srila Prabhupada. Many God brothers, like Kamsahanta, have meanwhile have had no plan AT ALL for saving these books, and they still do not. They simply did what most of the Gaudiya Matha's rank and file did, they left and did not help defend the mission, the books, the children ... or anything else.

Then, Kamsahanta (and a number of other God brothers) were even more upset at our addressing the child molesting issue. Kamsahanta and Krishna Kanta (and ilk) said this was going to make us "lose our buildings" over the expense of the lawsuit. That means Kamsahanta (and many other God brothers) wanted to toss children into a wood chipper to "save" their precious buildings program from an expense burden (buildings where the molester messiahs program will be worshiped).

Kamsahanta's pal Prahlad even quotes Krishna Kanta's complaints about the lawsuit, because self-evidently they wanted the molesting of children process to continue. So children have to suffer and maybe even die, so you folks can save -- some bricks and stones buildings? People have no value, money and assets do? Why are you any different than the GBC's process? I worship, a brick?

So Kamsahanta and his ilk apparently worship money, bricks and stones. Or what? Did I forget to mention that due to so many God brothers dragging their feet on these issues, this why it went to court in the first place? These God brothers should have banded together with us and resolved this deviation themselves -- AGES and AGES ago -- before it came to court.

Oh forsooth! Our biggest fear is, the molester messiahs program will not have a place to be worshiped? Thus, people are expendable, even children can be tossed into a wood chipper. Children can all suffer terribly to maintain Kamsahanta and associates' bricks and stones empire? That is how you people gave Krishna a bad name, having this anti-children attitude was eventually exposed in the public.

This is essentially also what happened in the Gaudiya Matha too, at least according to Srila Prabhupada, the leaders kicked out devotees and then the leaders "fought over the bricks and stones." The suffering citizens no longer really mattered, what matters most is -- the material assets. And Kamsahanta ilk wants to help these bogus leaders in their fight for the bricks and stones?

Did I forget to mention, we cannot take our precious bricks and stones wealth with us in our next life? Yep! All kinds of our devotee associates told me the same thing, well prabhu, sure there is a molesting program, but we cannot lose -- our bricks and stones? OK the children are expendable. Save the buildings! And! Let the children inside the buildings get burnt to toast. Is that human society? Why are our brothers like Kamsahanta with that agenda, at all?

And now, they are upset someone had hundreds of children pulled out of their agenda? Why has Kamsahanta and ilk wanted the hundreds of kids that we helped get pulled out of these "GBC managed programs" -- be forced -- to stay in that situation? And why is Peter apparently with that agenda alongside them?

And then Kamsahanta said he was going to physically restrain me from going out to introduce the poison issue. He was standing at my door blocking me from leaving. OK, he was worried "we are going to lose some buildings" if this issue surfaces, especially in India. So he does not even want justice for his guru's poison complaint, and worse, he wants the poisoners to have nice buildings where they will be worshiped. Worse, he and other brothers are acting as goondas to stop me from exposing the poison complaint. Or what?

They want Judas to have a nice building to be worshiped in? And Peter, you are with that process? Yep, many other brothers told me the same thing, sure prabhu, there is a poison complaint, but if we forward that -- we will lose our bricks and stones, the India government will seize the buildings. Justice for the guru's complaint is not important, the bricks and stones are?

As for the Bangalore folks, over the past years various of their congregation members have been video chat and writing me -- saying they are agreeing with PADA on: (A) The bogus acharya's program, (B) the child molesting, (C) the changed books, (D) the poison issue and (E) the exploiting women process and etc. And they are helping others understand some of this information. Yep, whenever people are waking up, Kamsahanta and ilk wants them to go back to sleep.

Why does Kamsahanta want people to stop, and sit around like a hermit as he is doing, and not be educating other people on these issues? What is he even doing to educate others? And then the HKC Jaipur where Kamsahanta hangs out sends me links to listen to Bhakta das, a huge cheer leader of the GBC gurus. OK Bhakta das is another God brother who supports the Kauravas.

And Bangalore folks created a wonderful temple here, and in New Jersey and they are branching to Boston now. What are my other big important God brothers doing? What is Kamsahanta doing? Oh he is hanging out in India, hiding from the boogey man GBC, and so are many other brothers? What good does that do for the universe? 

If buildings where homosexuals, pedophiles and guru poisoners are being worshiped as good as God are "our buildings" aka "your buildings," then you own this mess, and frankly, you can have it. I have enough bad karma already and would not want to add the weight of owning any of this.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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Moundsville News: Keith Haslam, 65, claims the founder of the Hare Krishnas was murdered by his followers. Haslam and others calling themselves the Bhaktivedanta Investigation Force have written a book, "Judge For Yourself." In it, they lay out the case -- with capital letters and red and blue ink, accompanied by poems by a licensed toxicologist -- that Prabhupada was poisoned.

According to Haslam, whose devotee name is Kamsahanta, the smoking gun is a recording from Prabhupada's deathbed that purportedly captured a disciple whispering, "The poison is going down," as the feeble swami, then 81, drank a glass of milk.

A CD included with the book has the recording. The whisperer, faintly but clearly, says, "The swelling is going down." Nevertheless, the conspiracy theory is so persistent that ISKCON released its own book to refute it.

PADA: Yeah, this is good, but he never wrote to tell me that his blocking me from forwarding the poison issue was a bad idea, or that telling me not to pursue the molesting was a bad idea, or that telling me not to sue the BBTI was a bad idea, and so on. Rather he went on saying that PADA is a very dangerous person for the Hare Krishnas.

So that means he was leading a double life, he is with my ideas, he knows I am right, but he against me personally. Holding a grudge. Something called sour grapes I believe. 

He should have -- at the very least -- wrote me an apology for combating our process and calling me an evil force for ISKCON etc. and clarified his position as being in agreement with PADA. He never did, and then he left his body with all this not resolved. 

Unfortunately, this all will be resolved in the next life ... it is better to resolve it now. He agrees with me, and also says I am the most dangerous person in ISKCON. That means he is upset we exposed his compromise.  

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THE HARE KRISHNA HISTORY / Govinda Dasi 12 06 26

SVA DIKSHA

PADA: Yes prabhu Madhusudana Russia is giving all sorts of advice to others, acting as their leader, while at the same time saying anyone who gives advice is bogus for acting as a leader and is creating a bogus bureaucracy of leader and follower.  

Meanwhile he says everyone should just read the books, but he says we should have no book distribution bureaucracy managing -- made by the ritviks -- to print and distribute the books. The books will sva print themselves. No workers needed! 

Yeah he thinks books sva print and distribute themselves, which is why he has no printing going on. He says no one can be a leader, that is a bogus bureaucracy, but then he self appoints himself as the leader of his own program. 

He is against the ritviks, because they are the people making the books, because we ritviks know that books -- do not -- sva make themselves. Yeah he is arguing with his own self. No one should be a leader, except me! ys pd    

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THE HARE KRISHNA MOVEMENT WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY ...

YD: The Hare Krishna movement will go down in history for systematically failing to save it's own children from abusers during a period of no less than 50 years. This is / was ISKCON's darkest hour.

Srila Prabhupada said: "The Krishna consciousness movement will go down in history as having saved mankind in its darkest hour" and in another place: "I wish that it will be noted down in history that this Krishna Consciousness Movement is responsible for saving the world."

I have turned around his famous quote not out of mockery, but with the intention to point out the sad reality. Lord Caitanya's Sankirtan movement has the potential to cleanse the heart of all impurities and make us truly happy. And in that way we can give up all sinful activities.

Then we can distributer the overflow of our spiritual bliss. I consider myself fortunate to have a local ISKCON community where serious abuse never happened, and I have only happy memories of my brahmacari years.

Last month I watched the documentary "Cost of silence" for the first time. I was aware of the cases of Lokannath, Shatandaya and ex.Bhaktividyapurna but was never aware of the full scope od ISKCON's child abuse history.

ISKCON leaders are responsible for this, especially the early ones - that they didn't create a protective mechanism, but instead protected / defended the perpetrators. 

Reccently I got a job at a public elementary school. The administration demanded an official statement of 'no punishment record' (no criminal record). I checked the wrong purpose of the statement namely 'employment'. The woman in the school administration wrote to me that the purpose needs to be 'care of children and youth'. It is very specific. And it is only right that they check carefully.

No coverups for friends!

ISKCON leaders would do us all a favour if they would hand over all future cases of abuse directly to the police. ZERO TOLERANCE.

Y.S. YD

"RJ ... Lokanath Dasa so called Swami Guru is a wolf in sheep's clothing. And supported by all his big Buddies like Bhakti Vikas swami, GBC and others in Sannyasa order. He admitted sexually abusing 11 year old girl. For a period of 7 / 8 days. GBC should have asked him to step down from his position of Guru. But as usual conveniently dismissed this as a nuisance.

Sleezy man ... yet allowing him to continue to take on new Disciples. Thousands in last few years. Big Money involved with lots rich Indian who are his disciples. Lokanath is evil along with Anidesha Vapu ... Bhavs and all the rest! Along with all those that support all these Dark Traders ... very narassistic demonic entities everywhere in ISKCON. 

Australia has long history of the same, GBC reps Ramai so called Swami has covered up Sex offenders & Rapist over 4 decades. Also Anirudha GBC rep for Australasia! Corruption Right to the Core. Absolutely disgracfeful cultish mentality !! They all should be in Jail.. But no ... Still honoured as great devotees . 

Vomit vomit vomit!  

KD's post is correct: "If admitted child molesters and abusers are awarded ‘guru’ positions, it’s enough to let anyone know what’s going on in ISKCON!"

SRD: The Lokanath case says that in ISKCON, if you're high enough on the totem pole of power, you can get away with anything, even the sexual abuse of an 11 year old child. The GBC set the precedent that a confirmed child abuser can be revered as the highest spiritual authority in Srila Prabhupada's moment. I do not know how ISKCON will wash off stain...

PADA: Yes, very good analysis. 50 years of not protecting children, and now having children worship a homosexual and pedophile "guru chain," which contains all manner of deviants and debauchees in that "guru chain." 

LD says this is the collective fault of everyone involved, most especially the parents, seniors and leaders who did not take this to the police. The children victims are often too traumatized to take action and should not be blamed for running away. 

LD says that if we all knew about the abuse in 1998, and we did know -- because of the court case -- that means Bangalore / IRM and others should have drove that issue out into the India public media and courts of India. Because the abuse just got worse in India with Bhakti Vidya Purna swami after 1998. 

Everyone has had a duty to expose this and shut it down, to save children. That is correct. IRM's Kamsahanta told me we cannot expose the abuse "because we will lose our buildings." OK but you already lost your soul if your bricks are more important than your own society's children.  

Of course at that exact time the GBC / IRM / HKC Jaipur ilk folks began to say that the mass child abuse program and homosexual and pedophile messiah's club is "The Golden Body of ISKCON." So there has been a tremendous amount push back on us dissenters, and support and sympathy for the evil program. 

Thus the failure of ISKCON is a collective failure to contain abuse, a sort of crime of omission and conspiracy of silence among parents, elders and leaders, at the same time a crime of commission -- a very vicious abuse protection program that bans, beats, sues and kills people who expose this problem. And that ladies and gents, is how we got to where we are now. 

Govinda Dasi says ISKCON has morphed into a sort of Joel Osteen feel good Hindu-ized church business, and that is the result of watering everything down one drop at a time until it was a flood of deviations. Anyway yeah, ISKCON was supposed to save the world, but it could not save itself. 

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Govinda Dasi

NOTED EFFECTS OF THE EDITED BOOKS: FROM PURE BHAKTI TO KARMAKANDA

In Judaism as well as in contemporary Christianity, there is nowadays a strong tendency towards pragmatism, and a distinct tendency to relegate anything transcendental, mystical, or rapturous to imagination or myth. Even modern day Catholicism shows less attention towards the past otherworldly saints. Of course, much of this is due to the cultural bias of the 20th century Industrial Revolution where humanity was coerced into leaving natural farmland environments, and coming to work in cities, in hellish factories—for “progress.”

Judaism also has a definite reluctance to accept mystical messiahs. Even the miracles performed by Jesus Christ, such as healing lepers and walking on water, were minimized and more than ignored. Rather, they were seen as threats to the rabbinical institution with their carefully guarded perspectives crafted over centuries.

In spite of the many miracles performed by Lord Krishna, the Kuru dynasty and demons of that era refused to see Him as the Supreme Lord, worthy of worship and surrender. Instead they viewed Him as an ordinary man having some magical powers. Never did they accept Him as the Supreme Godhead worthy of our surrender to Him.

In Iskcon today we have a very similar situation. Srila Prabhupada, the divine mystic, the master transcendentalist who brought the path of grace to us, and created miracles before our very eyes —like a swan, he flew around the world many times and changed the hearts of thousands of confused and lost souls. He brought them to the transcendental pure path of bhakti, the grace-filled path gifted by Lord Chaitanya and Lord Nityananda. 

But due to the influence of these edited books, Srila Prabhupada has now been relegated to the position of “a spiritual leader, one of many”, “an erudite scholar who translates foreign texts”, or a mere “Vedic commentator” (also one of many…) Such is the horrendous effect of reading Srila Prabhupada’s edited books. They work like a poison on the soul.

By imbibing the philosophical concepts presented in these BBTi editions crafted after Srila Prabhupada’s demise, the innocent reader will be misled far away from the path of pure bhakti, the path of descending grace. The reader will be steered towards the ascending path of knowledge, ritual and mental speculation. Karmakanda. The poor reader will be led towards “self-help gurus” of all sorts, and gradually the pure transcendental mission gifted by Lord Chaitanya will become nothing more than an Indianized Joel Osteen club.

Sincere book distributors, eager to please Srila Prabhupada, are out there sincerely working to reach the public and give them what they believe to be helpful. But by introducing them to these unauthorized and deceptive teachings, they are actually doing great harm. The poor reader is reaching for God and His grace, for the presence of Lord Nityananda, and in the original books of Srila Prabhupada, they will find it. Their hearts will open to pure transcendental bhakti. But if they are exposed to these corrupted teachings, the ever present threat of the path of Karmakanda will likely consume them. Just as it has consumed and destroyed the beautiful Iskcon bhakti mission established by Srila Prabhupada.

Reminder: NO one reaches Sri Krishna by his own endeavor. The yogis, the jnanis, the empiric philosophers may try for thousands of years. But it is only by the grace of Sri Krishna that one can reach him. And it is only by the grace of guru, the Acharya, Srila Prabhupada, that one can safely find the way to the Lotus Feet of the Lord.

Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja

Aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami ma sucah

Guru Kripa Hi Kevalam.

GOVINDADASI ACBSP