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T DASI: BE KIND

THIS DOES NOT IMPLY SILENCE WHEN REPORTING CRIMES

After 50 years of practicing Bhakti yoga, chanting, dancing ,feasting , studying scripture, preaching, rising early etc. If we can’t be kind, compassionate human beings, we have failed.

If we can’t discuss things rationally, disagree respectfully, open our minds to differences of opinions without overt anger, we’ve failed. Do we understand that?

It is true that Bhakti is never wasted or forgotten which is gift from God. Yet, any post from rude and negative practitioners of Bhakti no longer draw my attention.
I don’t care how many slokas you can chant from memory.

If you can’t be kind and respectful you have FAILED in the most all inclusive spiritual path in the universe. What a shame! Negative posts full of ugliness cancels out all of our legitimacy as authentic lovers of the Lord.

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ISKCON IS DYSFUNCTIONAL UPDATE

PADA: Thanks prabhu. Yeah the [Krishna] Fitch family is another example of the dysfunctional Krishna society. Mrkanda Fitch has a sister named Jvalamukhi, and their mother told her kids to take initiation from Radhanath, and evidently Jvalamukhi did. 

Later on she rejected Radhanath, but she also started to complain that she has eye witnessed ch*ld sacrifice ceremonies in her childhood in ISKCON. OK she may have seen this or that, I cannot say for sure, but I can say -- she has FOR SURE had a demented and deranged childhood -- which lead her to believe she is in a ch*ld sacrifice cult. That did not manifest from nowhere.

Then her brother Mrkanda Fitch blamed me for his sister going off the rails, although I have had only a few short exchanges with her -- and only after she rejected Radhanath -- and I never mentioned the things she believes she witnessed. 

I just agreed that she has had some rough going in her childhood, and that has lead her to her current de-stabilized mental state. I also know another young lady who tried to stab her mother with scissors and had to be sedated and sent to a mental ward, when she was only 17. 

Something happened to that person, that is not normal behavior. And I know of many other cases of troubled ISKCON youth, including for example a Krishna boy who stole a car and drove it into a canal, and he had to be rescued from maybe drowning -- and arrested, and the list here is endless.  

OK she came up with all this on her own. Mrkanda Fitch also says that he believes ISKCON's Mahatma, Kalakantha, Brahma Tirtha and others are doing great preaching. OK wait, they are the same people who have promoted Kirtanananda's henchman Radhanath as a guru, which evidently messed up his sister. 

When I reminded Mrkanda Fitch that these people bury known homos and pedos in samadhis, he said I am like a fly going for the stool. OK I did not create this stool, I am simply reporting it. Nor does this explain why it is a good idea to bury deviants in samadhis.

Radhanath was telling me Kirtanananda is a pure devotee just a few months before Sulochana was taken out, and we all know he helped promote Kirtanananda, and therefore he may have had a hand in Sulochana being taken out, and many believe -- he did have a hand in that. 

Meanwhile, Jvalamukhi says the ritviks are bogus because she follows that crazy Purely Prabhupada lady, who says we all have to be gurus ourself -- and take our own responsibility for the people we preach to ourself. OK the rank and file Christians all need to become another Jesus and absorb sins themselves. How is that going to work out pilgrims? 

All the followers are going to take the same responsibility as the acharya? Wait, that is what the GBC basically says, the neophytes will take the post of acharya. Not working pilgrims!

And Mrkanda Fitch hangs out with the Alachua ISKCON people, same folks who promote the king of the child mistreatment program in Mayapur, Jayapataka. And these are the same people who encouraged Jayapataka to take sins from thousands of people, and just look at the state of that guy now. He clearly does not have the capacity to absorb sins. And neither does Mahatma, which is why he had to have bypass surgery recently.

So yeah, as soon as these folks find a guy like Radhanath -- who helps bury oral s*x with boys in the motorhome as the messiah -- who needs a samadhi in the dham, they think that is great preaching -- and we are the problem because -- we do not promote oral s*x with boys in the motorhome as Krishna's samadhi successors. And of course these same people do not accept the p*ison issue or any other issue we bring up, because they are with the people -- Jvalamukhi says -- are a ch*ld sacrifice cult. 

They cannot even accept responsibility for making Jvalamukhi a train wreck, never mind the thousands and thousands of other kids they made into train wrecks. And now these people are going to -- advise us? They essentially p*isoned Jvalamukhi, they destroyed her, never mind they may have mistreated their guru and thousands of others. They mistreat others badly and destroy lives as their regular daily function, could they have mistreated their guru as well? We would say, of course they could have. OK they did. ys pd

VK: Thanks for that, Mrkanda Fitch is Jvalamukhis family. Yea they are of the Tamal sampradaya, Prabhupada is senile old man, had enough suffering, overworked, tired of bad servants so he begged to be medicined outta here. What a twisted view of SP.

The one thing I’m glad about is when the women’s asrama tried to scoop up my sister I said stay TF away! Have your life, chant and be happy but don’t get involved in this messed up institution. I replied to Mrkanda earlier to this but it vanished. Thanks for your reply and info. Heavy maya in this movement.

PADA: Yeah, these people block me all the time, and then they invite in their s*x with boys in the motorhome messiah's program folks. No wonder Jvalamukhi is such a mess, and then they blame me for making her a such a mess. They need to follow their own advice -- and take responsibility for the things they orchestrate, like making her a mess. 

Of course eventually they will have to be fully 100% responsible, because Yamaraja will force them to take responsibility. To say I am the person to be blamed as responsible, when I created zero percent of any of this, and I tried to warn people to avoid this mess, is not going to work when they are in the higher court of Yama system. But yeah, they blame the messenger, block the messenger, and make a giant mess -- and then double down blame the messenger -- but for which they will be held accountable. 

And that is why they block us, they cannot answer our points and they know we are right. They are in denial. Head in the sand, typical of cult people. Will not work over the long haul in the justice system of God, they do not get to have the final say. Heavy maya about sums it up. ys pd

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LOKANATH SWAMI UPDATE

January 17th 2025

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Lokanath Swami's Lawsuit no 1: Overview

Introduction:

Lokanath Swami, an ISKCON leader, has faced serious allegations related to past inappropriate behavior involving a minor. This situation has sparked significant criticism and efforts from advocates seeking accountability and reform within the organization.


Key Points:

Allegations Against Lokanath Swami:

• Lokanath is accused of molesting an 11-year-old girl in New Jersey in the 1990s.

• A GBC committee investigated and found his admissions of guilt, resulting in suspension but lacking serious consequences.

Activism by Saraswati and Damodar:

• They have actively raised awareness about the case, utilizing social media to keep the issue visible. They have criticized the GBC for not taking sufficient action against Lokanath, arguing that reinstating him damages ISKCON's integrity.

Legal Actions Taken:

• In March 2023, Lokanath Swami filed a SLAPP Lawsuit before High Court of Delhi against Saraswati and Damodar for alleged defamation, demanding the removal of negative comments and financial compensation INR 22,500,000. The Suit was designed to intimidate and silence critics.

• An injunction was granted initially, whereby, the Court ordered removal of all their posts against Lokanath Swami which were subject matter of the Suit and not to post anything offensive against him.

Defense Arguments:

• Saraswati and Damodar engaged a law firm Garg and Garg Advocates, New Delhi to defend them in the above Suit. Garg and Garg Advocates led by Mr. Ajay Garg, Advocate contested the above-said Suit on behalf of Saraswati and Damodar and refuted all the allegations made by Lokanath Swami and also raised several legal and factual issues to seek outright rejection of the Suit.

• Saraswati and Damodar’s legal team argued their statements were truthful and in the public interest, referencing past incidents and reports on Lokanath’s misconduct.

• They highlighted that the GBC had not properly referred Lokanath’s case to the Child Protection Office, which was established to handle abuses.

Outcome of the Legal Battle:

• On April 5, 2024, the Delhi High Court recognized a lack of jurisdiction over the case, leading to the withdrawal of the suit by Lokanath Swami against Saraswati and Damodar.

• This decision was seen as a victory for them, allowing them to continue their advocacy without legal hindrance.

Conclusion:

Saraswati and Damodar's efforts underline the challenges faced in addressing abuse within religious organizations. Their activism and the subsequent legal developments have opened dialogues on accountability and victim support within ISKCON, leading to significant changes in the organization’s handling of such sensitive issues.

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COMING COLLAPSE OF THE GBC HYPOCRISY

In 2000, the GBC, after being presented a book titled Not That I Am Poisoned, which was secretly published by none other than the four primary Srila Prabhupada poisoning suspects themselves, endorsed said book as the final resolution of the poisoning issue. Their unanimous resolution was that there was “no evidence” of Srila Prabhupada having been poisoned, and that he had passed away from natural causes. 

Of course, this was only their conjecture, as opposed to the irrevocable forensic determination of Truth Labs’ 2024 extensive study report.
Just as the United States does with its perceived adversaries, the GBC has employed proxy agents to attack the “envious, trouble-making enemies of ISKCON,” namely those who favor seeking the truth about Srila Prabhupada’s disappearance pastimes. Messengers of the scientific facts and evidence accumulated from private investigations are labelled “Kali chelas,” “public enemy number one,” and “lost souls with emotional problems.”

However, despite the GBC’s best attempts, albeit from an arm’s length distance so as not to become legally implicated, to discredit the truth that Srila Prabhupada was homicidally poisoned and his movement hijacked by imposter gurus, their hypocrisy is collapsing. Their fraudulent and deviational regime is on life-support. The truths of ISKCON history, of the GBC lies and cheating, of the hoax that Srila Prabhupada wanted imposter gurus who cannot control their minds and senses- are becoming impossible to hide and gloss over much longer.

Change is coming, and ever faster, every day. A shift in the collective devotee awareness is accelerating as the TRUTH shines its light and it can no longer be squelched with institutional decrees, policies, intimidation, or repeated dry denials. The increasing number of books, social media posts, essays, articles, and unrestricted person to person communications is revealing simple truths, apparent to anyone with common sense. 

These truths are neither revolutionary nor particularly remarkable, but are ones that have not been allowed to be brought up in public (or even in private) discourse under the GBC’s strict censorship and intimidation regime. E.g., all ISKCON leaders are strictly held in check and cannot differ from the party line, or be removed.

Gradually these unpleasant truths have reached into the far corners of the Hare Krishna world, and discussion of these forbidden but obvious truths are bringing them out in the open. Something powerful has begun to stir. The upper crust of hardened GBCs and big ISKCON gurus still covers the masses of devotees, but their control and influence is evaporating, as ever more souls are now able to see through the ISKCON GBC’s veneer of so-called “spiritual authority.” Critical thinking and intelligent debate are returning, despite the disapproval of the corrupted misleadership.

The corrupt, fragile, and sclerotic GBC regime, based on lies, corruption, and suppression of truth, is being brought down by the sincere inquiries and research of honest devotees, those who sincerely want to serve the Founder-Acharya. As they scramble, the top ISKCON leaders are being exposed as totalitarians whose “authority” rests on cognitive dissonance and cheating, with censorship thrown in. 

They always silence opposing voices and their gurocracy continues to exploit and cheat innocent seekers in horrible ways. It is the pinnacle of paradox that these censoring totalitarians call truth-speakers the “enemies of devotion.” The truth is so different from what they claim. But their days of falsehoods are numbered.
Free, open, and respectful debate amongst those sincerely seeking the truth will restore Srila Prabhupada’s Divine Mission, and rescue it from the deviant, corrupted hijackers seeking to enrich their bank accounts and false egos. 

Using our best intelligence, cleansing our hearts with the process of Krishna consciousness, and praying to the divine messenger Founder-Acharya will reveal the truths of what the Hare Krishna Movement should be, revived and as it was given by Srila Prabhupada. As it is, no changes, no deviations, no personal ambitions.

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Why Does Krishna Allow Suffering? / Krishna candra Astakam VIDEO

 WHY DOES KRISHNA ALLOW SUFFERING? 

Regarding the inquiry, 'If there is God, how can there be suffering and disease,' the similar question may be asked, 'In the presence of an affectionate father, why should a child suffer from diseases?' God is the Supreme Father and He gives us the process for being relieved of our sufferings. But if one refuses to accept this gift of God, then he must suffer from the results of his activities. Anyone who is suffering or enjoying in this material world is doing so as a result of his own activities. Krishna says that if we surrender unto Him, He will relieve us of all sufferings, so if someone rejects this offer of Krishna and then says that there is no God because he is experiencing some suffering, that is not a very intelligent position. Krishna wants everyone to go back to Home, back to Godhead, and enjoy eternal life and blissful knowledge there. If your father agrees to this process, he also can be taken back to Home, back to Godhead, with my other disciples. There will be no difficulty for me. You can tell your father that. But if he does not agree, what responsibility is God's? Everyone has got his independence."

(Srila Prabhupada Letter, September 13, 1969)

Disciple: Srila Prabhupada, sometimes people argue that if there is no God, it doesn’t matter what I do, and if there is a God, then He is controlling everything and it still doesn’t matter what I do, because everything is predetermined anyway. In either case, I am free to do anything I like.

Srila Prabhupada: Yes, but why do you suffer?

Disciple: Well, it’s all God’s plan. I suffer according to God’s plan.

Srila Prabhupada: No. It is not God’s plan that you suffer; you suffer because you violate God’s laws. He is controlling everything, but He has given you minute independence: You can either follow His laws or violate them. But you are so foolish that you do not understand you are suffering. Your position is like that of the cats and dogs, who also cannot understand that they are suffering.

Our point is that you are suffering because you have violated God’s laws, and if you become obedient to God you will not suffer. But you are such a fool, such a rascal, that you do not even know that you are suffering.

Disciple: But the devotees also seem to be suffering.

Srila Prabhupada: Yes, but they are not suffering like the nondevotees. Material life, which is the cause of suffering, is like a disease, and devotees are giving up this diseased condition of life for Krishna consciousness. If you are suffering from some disease, you cannot expect to be cured immediately. But one who is taking the medicine is very intelligent. His sufferings will soon be gone. But these nondevotee rascals will not even take the medicine-Krishna consciousness-so they will continue to suffer.

And for the most part, devotees enjoy. Why are you always chanting Hare Krishna and dancing unless you are enjoying?

Disciple: Sometimes I get a sick stomach, too.

Srila Prabhupada: That’s because you have a material body. But your suffering is just like the movement of a fan that has been switched off. The fan is still moving, but the switch is off; so it will soon stop. Similarly, your suffering will soon stop, because you are acting on the spiritual platform. And after giving up this body, you will have a completely blissful life. As Krishna says in the Bhagavad-gita [4.9], tyaktva deham punar janma naiti:

“After giving up the body, a devotee doesn’t take birth again in the material world.” You are not going to get another material body, full of suffering. That is your advantage.

But these nondevotee rascals are going to continue getting body after body, all full of suffering. They will have to accept one body and suffer, and then again they’ll have to give up that body and take another body and suffer. As long as one accepts a material body he will have to suffer, because having a material body means suffering. So those who are not Krishna conscious will change bodies one after another and continue to suffer the threefold miseries [those caused by the body and mind, those caused by other living beings, and those caused by natural calamities].

But devotees, even if they appear to be undergoing some suffering, will eventually give up the material body and remain in their spiritual body, free from all suffering.

Disciple: [taking the position of a materialist] That is simply your faith.

Srila Prabhupada: And it is your faith that you do not believe it. We are accepting the words of the Bhagavad-gita on faith, so we have a chance of getting promoted to the spiritual world. But you have no faith, so you are sure to continue suffering in the material world. We are at least willing to take the chance, but you are so foolish that you are not willing to take the chance. So your suffering is sure to continue.

Disciple: Indians often say, “Well, I will take the chance when Krishna wishes. His will is supreme, so whenever He wishes He will make me Krishna conscious.”

Srila Prabhupada : In the Bhagavad-gita [18.66], Krishna says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam sharanam vraja: “Give up all your nonsense and surrender unto Me. Become Krishna conscious.” So, Krishna wishes that you surrender to Him. Why don’t you obey His wish?

Disciple: Why does Krishna arrange for the pleasures of sense gratification if they only bring us suffering?

Srila Prabhupada: Again, the same answer: Krishna has given us minute independence-we can use our senses for either sense gratification or for serving Him, which is the real pleasure of the senses. The senses are meant for enjoyment, but if you try to enjoy your senses in a diseased way-by gratifying them-that is your misfortune, and you will have to suffer. You have to cure your disease by becoming Krishna conscious. Then you will enjoy unlimitedly.

We are not like the Mayavadis [impersonalists], who want to destroy the senses and become senseless. That is not our program. We want to purify the senses (sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam tat-paratvena nirmalam). Suppose a man cannot see because he has glaucoma. The Mayavada program is that if your eye is giving you trouble and you cannot see, pluck it out. That is not our program. We want to cure the disease so you can see very nicely. So, our senses should be cured of the material disease by our practicing Krishna consciousness. Then we will be able to enjoy real sense pleasure by using our senses in the service of Hrishikesha [Krishna], the master of the senses.

Kumbha Mela / Ghostly Priest / Prabhupada Shelter 01 14 25

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How did a priest, who constantly chanted holy names become a brahma-rākṣasa ghost?

In 1885, Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura took Bimalā along with other sons to visit a few places of Lord Caitanya's pastimes in Bengal. Arriving late one evening on the outskirts of Kulīna-grāma, a settlement whose former inhabitants were very dear to Caitanya Mahāprabhu, the father and sons were accorded repose in a temple. 

Next morning, upon entering the hamlet, they were asked by some local residents where they had come from and where they had spent the night. Upon hearing the answer the village men amazedly asked, “How could you have slept? No one can stay there peacefully, for it's haunted by a brahma-rākṣasa who pitches stones and brickbats at anyone passing by after dusk.” 

Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura replied, “Yes, that ghost did try to disturb us, but I loudly chanted the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra and he went away.” Learning that he was Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, whom they already knew of, some having read his books, the villagers became most obedient and further questioned, “How did you quell that ghost by chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa? Previously he was the priest of that temple, and he chanted Hare Kṛṣṇa throughout his life. How did he become a ghost, and how could your chanting expel him?”

Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura told them that the priest must have vibrated only the syllables of the name, thus producing a physical, lip-deep sound lacking spiritual essence. When Bhaktivinoda asked about his character, they replied, “He was not good. He committed many sinful acts. But he used to recite harināma almost constantly.” 

Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura further explained why the priest could not have been truly chanting: “Sinful people, with the intention of acquiring wealth and reputation, make a show of kīrtana, but that is merely cheating. As stated in Śrīla Jagadānanda Paṇḍita's Prema-vivarta: asādhu-saṅge bhāi “kṛṣṇa nāma” nāhi haya “nāmākṣara” bāhirāya baṭe nāma kabhu naya -- Those not in the association of authentic devotees cannot actually utter the holy names. Even though they may externally vibrate the sound kṛṣṇa, that is not actually the name of Kṛṣṇa.

“The name of Kṛṣṇa is nondifferent from Him and thus completely pure and spiritual. Kṛṣṇa- nāma does not allow Himself to be plundered by materialists. This man never actually chanted Hare Kṛṣṇa, only nāmāparādha. Because of severe offenses to the holy name he became a ghost. The men then asked, “Can he ever be released from that wretched condition?” 

Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura said, “If he hears the real name, or the proper explanation of Bhagavad- gītā or Bhāgavatam from a bona fide sadhu who has a genuine connection with Kṛṣṇa, then he can be liberated from ghostly existence.”
Henceforth all troubles caused by the specter ceased. The villagers then realized that Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura was himself that caliber of exalted sadhu whose pure kīrtana had the power not only to exorcise unyielding ghosts, but to deliver the entire universe from the maelstrom of material life.

Sri Bhaktisiddhanta Vaibhava 

PADA: Yep pilgrims, people who chant, but they desire to have name, fame, guru post, mundane opulence, guru bhoghi, kama, lobha, pooja, pratistha etc. do not go back to Krishna. They have to stay here and continue to suffer. 

Chanting alone does not fix everything, the chanting requires the proper mood of surrendering to Krishna -- and when people try to cheat, it just makes them more culpable and alienated from Krishna, and thus, more punishable, even more punishable that the ordinary mundane man who at least knows it is forbidden to pose as a sadhu artificially. I feel bad for these guru God brothers, their fate is very dark indeed. ys pd

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TAKE SHELTER OF PRABHUPADA

BD: I was initiated by His Divine Grace 56 years back and I have thought a lot on this subject. You can read not only what he wrote on the face, but between the lines. If you wish to take initiation that is fine, But a proper guru in the line from Prabhupada should be nothing more than a friend and a guide and a sign post to Prabhupada. 

Even the greatest sadhus and acharyas of India are amazed at his potency. Anyone who tries to supersede the Founder-Acharya or erect a throne for himself in the ashram of Shri Guru is a certified nut case. Just see the examples of what has happened to each of the pirate gurus who claimed to be his successors. 

They are all tragic one after another. Such posers must be avoided as they will lead you and their other followers to hell. Becoming re-initiatied over and over is no solution. Prabhupada is right there for you. You can obtain a nice deity of His Divine Grace and keep him on your altar and just surrender to Radha and Krishna through him as your guru. We should understand the difference between regular guru and the Paramhamsa pure devotee who is on the level of Shrila Rupa and Raghunatha. Make your life perfect through Prabhupada's mercy. He is still here for us -- and for you.

ISKCON CPO Fallout / Rupa Goswami Prayer 01 13 25

There is no other shelter than Radha and Krishna.

When will I finally realize that?

SRD: ONE BIG OVERSIGHT!!!

Long after we announced it here, ISKCON News has finally confirmed our worst fears about these changes to the CPO. 

https://iskconnews.org/iskcons-child-protection.../

This is what I think, the whole thing is a sham! These are significant changes that will have a major impact on the entire society. The devotees who have worked in Child Protection for 30 years weren't consulted, the SABHA will not get a vote.
A bunch of shady lawyers got together and dismantled what little system of child protection was in place.

This was a tyrannical political maneuver, pushed by these lawyers and imposed by the GBCs. I can confirm that they did NOT consult with the devotees that currently serve with the CPO.

That's a flat out lie! They reached out to them ONCE! They were supposed to meet again to actually discuss the matter further, but it never happened. This fact alone is evidence that the primary motive for this overhaul was NOT increasing the protection of children.

Champakalata's track record when she served as the Director of CPO is appalling!

We have no reason to hope that she'll fare any better this time around. This Oversight Committee (OC) has a disproportionate degree of influence on which cases make it to the investigators.

I am really curious to see who will pay for professional investigators and where we'll find professional investigators specialized in historical child abuse cases in India, Africa and South America...

Despite all the word jugglers, only one of the 3 lawyers that make up the OC has any notable Child Protection experience. I'm told that Govinda Lilamrita, one of the lawyers defended someone accused of child abuse. Apparently, that's her Child Protection experience!

The OC will be made up of 5 people, 3 lawyers, one child protection professional expert, that hasn't been found yet, and one mystery surprise member...  WHAT????? If child protection was the priority driving these changes, I would expect to see a team made up of 4 child protection experts and maybe one lawyer to ensure legal compliance...

I would have expected to have seen a high degree of consultation with the devotees who have dedicated decades of their lives to protecting our children!

The fact that the majority of the OC members are lawyers (plus Champakalata) and that they already have the 3 lawyers, but still haven't found the Child Protection expert, spells out what is the purpose behind these changes.

The protection of children clearly isn't it. Make no mistake, all this is to ensure that protecting children does not interfere with corporate interests. I dread to think how this model will work in poor and developing countries that have no regional CPO directors. These shady lawyers will re-train the CPO panelists and explain what they view as acceptable evidence.

The only good news is that at least for now they're saying that this circus will not be applied retroactively. But the GBCs have wantonly changed their mind so frequently that it's hard to believe anything they say.

It is evident to anyone who is paying attention that these changes aren't aimed at improving child protection... "We acknowledge more consultations could have been done during this process.... In hindsight, it would have been prudent to consult more extensively with the regional CPO Directors, and we take full responsibility for that".

Excuse my French, but what the hell does it mean, "We take full responsibility for that"... What a load of manure!!! You clearly don't even know the first thing about what it actually means to take full responsibility!!!

How many lawyers have resigned as a tangible gesture of responsibility for the 'OVERSIGHT'???? How about you actually go back and do the consultation you should have done in the first place?!?!? Taking full responsibility requires fixing the problem you acknowledge you are responsible for!!!

In short and for what it's worth, my opinion is that these changes only serve to introduce more bureaucracy and red tape that will make it easier for the GBCs to control high profile CPO cases. They will NOT help children, but rather they will make the life of the perpetrators easier.

In other words, the inception of all these changes is very inauspicious for the protection of children. They started a very difficult task by undermining their credibility, before they even got out of the door!

Do who's going to keep an eye on the OVERSIGHTS of the oversight committee???
ISKCON News and the GBCs have failed to explain to the devotee community how exactly these changes constitute a tangible improvement for Child Protection.

What's perhaps the worst part about this most recent debacle is the fact that ISKCON News and the GBCs continue to treat the devotee community as if they believe them to be stupid! The contempt and utter disrespect over an issue as important as the protection of our children is appalling and unfit for Vaishnavas!!!

AKD: A change on this large of a scale and with such large implications would take years of education and development. The fact that it was done so quickly and without input from the current ICPO gives a clear indication this is not being done to "enhance child protection". In summary, there is a new panel (child protection oversight committee or CPOC). What do they do? They receive complaints, keep a file and issue a reference number. 

Why do we need lawyers for this task? Obviously, the CPOC will have a larger role to play than simply assigning reference numbers. From this point, the CPOC assigns the case to the local RGB CPO director. We are to assume at this point that there is a qualified CPO director on every Regional Governing Body and that they have been trained how to handle cases for the newly implemented policies. At this point, the actual victim (or complainant) is 2 steps removed from the person handling the case. 

Now, the RGB CPO director (even though we don't have a CPO anymore) assigns the case to an independent third party investigator. At this point, the victim is 3 steps removed from the investigator. We are to assume at this point that 1) there are qualified child protection personnel for every RGB 2) the child protection personnel are trained on the new policies 3) the child protection personnel have resources for qualified 3rd party investigators 4) the RGB has the financial ability to pay for a third party investigator - this is a very critical but painfully ambiguous piece of the puzzle. 

How can we wait for the local leaders to find ways to pay for an independent investigator? How are we to assume the CPOC has no other role than filing a ticket #? As PK stated, it seems they are privately tasked with being some sort of gatekeeper. This convoluted process being filtered through the newly formed CPOC does not seem to have the best interest of child protection in mind as Sanaka Rsi Prabhu has emphasized. The fact that the overhaul happened so quickly and without consultation with the current CPO should be a huge red flag for the intentions of the GBC resolution.

PADA: Whatever happened to the GBC team headed by Guru Prasad swami that was going to "investigate and rectify" the Giriraj swami problem, of the swami chasing a female follower? Yep, sound of crickets. We don't hear anything of substance subsequentially. Radio silence. 

This seems to be a pattern, the people who are supposed to investigate and rectify things, are the same people that need to be investigated and rectified. And since the people who need correcting are the same people doing the oversight of the correcting, where does that lead? The idea that new committees will be formed to improve oversight, only to reduce oversight, is because they knew their program is being exposed all over the place (thank you internet) and therefore the best option is to make a panel of lawyers to field complaints and questions, because their lawyers know best how to LEGALLY shield the perps and the society of leaders that have enabled and empowered these perps. 

I believe the whole plan right now is to circle the wagons into even more fortified LEGAL positions to protect the leaders from scrutiny, and potentially legal entanglements, by their enabling, allowing, covering up for -- perps. Giriraj is also one of the people giving me vulture glares when we were having them sued, and he would not speak one word to me about these issues. He is a member of and -- an enabler of -- the child mistreatment cabal. Talk to my lawyers. Well ok, and your LA headquarters area and San Fernando Valley lawyers area of the people opposing me and the children on the lawsuit -- is totally on fire at the moment. Maybe that is not a coincidence? ys pd

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RUPA GOSWAMI

(1)

hari he dayala mora jaya radha-natha

bara bara e-i bara laha nija satha

(2)

bahu yoni bhrami natha la-inu sarana

nija gune kripa kara adhama-tarana

(3)

jagata-tarana tumi jagata-jibana

toma chada kara nahi he radha-ramana

(4)

bhubana-mangala tumi bhubanera pati

tumi upekshile natha ki ha-ibe gati

(5)

bhabiya dekhinu e-i jagata majhare

toma bina keha na-i e rame uddhare

1) O master of Radha! All glory to You! O Lord Hari! Please be merciful to me! Again and again and again I beg: Please accept me as one of Your associates!

2) O Lord, wandering in this world, I took shelter of many different wombs. O deliverer of the fallen, please be merciful to me.

3) You are the savior of the worlds. You are the life of the worlds. O Lord Radha-ramana, please do not turn away from me.

4) You are the auspiciousness of the worlds. You are the master of the worlds. What will happen to persons who turn from You?

5) I have carefully observed this world. O Lord, none but You can deliver this Rama dasa.

Bhargava / LA Fires / History Summary 01 09 25

Sorry, we just are not going to be happy campers

in Durga's prison house. But we can be happy

when we are with Krishna. There is no other option. 

Bhargava das has had some kind of health crisis. He was unconscious and they took him away in an ambulance. He was always sorta friendly with me, but he could not help me protest the bad guys. I wish him well. Pavaka dasi is also in the hospital, not sure what her update is.

Los Angeles is on fire. 

Not looking good. And the people there are having to breathe a lot of smoke. A governing mismanagement issue for sure. They all knew it was all dried out; they all knew the wind was coming; they all knew they had many fires there before; they all knew the water system was low; they all knew the fire fighting funds were cut back; so where was the preparation? It looks like the government dropped the ball here, big time.  

Lots of people are now going to be homeless, when they already had a giant homeless crisis. The problems are going to persist for a long time because everyone's life is now topsy turvy, many businesses are burned up, and there will be no jobs for a lot of people. Many communications and electrical transmission systems are gone, many vehicles are gone, many people won't be able to get around, many food stores have burnt down etc. A lot of trouble for a lot of people.

There will be lots of people crowded into shelters -- with nowhere to go, and all the rest. A big mess. Bad Karma for a big sinful city -- you think? But the Christians who are gloating that sin city is burning, are not making people want to worship their God. We should not be gloating that people are suffering, at the same time, the material energy will do its thing and we have to tolerate.

I feel very bad for all the animals -- dogs, cats, cows and horses were running away, and all that. They have a limited amount of escape ability. Of course having the karma of being Jayapataka's Western head quarters location is not good karma right out of the gate. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com   

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PADA:

I think we just need to summarize the whole pot-1977 ISKCON situation:

1. Srila Prabhupada complained he was being poisoned, and this complaint was hidden -- and still is hidden -- from a lot of devotees.

2. The leaders responsible for that horrific crime then self-anointed themselves as the "eternal successors to Krishna and Srila Prabhupada." And these leaders could be identified as those among the "poison whisperers" -- found on the poison tape itself -- for example: -- Tamal's voice; Jayapataka's -- "poison isvarya rasa"; Jayadvaita -- "Jay, God dammit Jay"; "The poison is going down"; Bhavananda's giggles -- Etc. In fact Nanda Kumar dasa said the leaders were all giggling, joking and laughing outside Prabhupada's room in 1977 -- and Nanda Kumar knew they were up to no good. He said, I either need to kill them, or leave, so I left. OK, that was not a good move either, he left his guru in the hands of these laughing hyenas.

3: After that -- many ISKCON seniors and leaders -- including most of the UK yatra where I was -- and assorted people like Rupanuga, Mukunda swami, Ravindra swarupa, even Brahmananda and many others -- went along with the poison gang of self appointed / self anointed acharyas and their "appointment as gurus" -- for example Bhagavan, Hansadutta, Satsvarupa, Rupanuga et al. -- saying they were "right there" when the poison gang was: ordered, anointed, appointed, commanded, or somehow or other authorized as gurus, or whatever term the GBC and people like Rupanuga are using at different times. Lets just say -- a lot of people went along with the self anointed poison guru gangsters by promoting the cabal members as gurus and acharyas, OK like Rupanuga and many others.

4: Later on, so many scandals surfaced among these self anointed gangster / poisoner messiahs they had to have a "guru reform" in 1986 -- where they voted in another wave of gurus -- i.e. persons who would cooperate with the original wave of self anointed poisoner guru gangsters. The reformers also excommunicated Sulochana, because he had discovered the "May 28th guru appointment tape" was a scam and a splice job, and did not appoint ANY gurus in ANY case. He thus had to be terminated for exposing the cabal's guru appointment scam, and he was. Sulochana called the guru appointment "The Big Lie" and he said Satsvarupa is "the Joeseph Goebbels writer of ISKCON." Of course our Joeseph Goebbels has had a lot of supporters in the ISKCON institution, who agreed with his fascist idea of making absolutist rulers out of deviants and debauchees. Satsvarupa said me and Sulochana are poison pens, in order to make us targets for assassination.

5: Not too long after 1978 -- the poisoner's gangster messiah's crew proved they had a tendency to deviate if not fall down -- as these same group of leaders did all through the 1970s. And in sum -- as Jayadvaita says -- various GBC guru crew members have been falling into "illicit sex with men, women and possibly children." OK exactly what is not to be done by Krishna's guru successors, proving -- they are not, were not, could not have EVER been Krishna's successors. Never mind key members of that party are prime suspects in the poisoning of guru crime. Never mind the average karmi mundane citizen does not engage in illicit sex with men, women and children. Did I forget to mention Srila Prabhupada already said they are not fit for sannyasa in January 1977, so there is no way they would be fit to be God's messiahs from heaven in 1978?

6: Another well known fact: worship of the demigods takes us to their planet, worship of the asuras takes us to their planet -- in sum: "we become what we worship." Therefore worshiping: -- sexual deviants, homosexuals, pedophiles, predators, poisoners, criminals, porno swamis, machine gun swamis, drunks, drug addicts, oral sex with boys in the motorhome swamis, Timothy Leary and Andy Warhol disciples -- and so on -- as "God's successors," produced a magnet to attract MANY MORE of these same types of deviant folks to ISKCON, and cover up for them when they are exposed in crimes -- including child abuse. As happened. And thus a sort of haven for such criminal activities increased exponentially. And thereby -- a giant wave of these criminal and perverted activities was spawned all over ISKCON. In short, ISKCON became exactly what it was worshiping, a society of greedy self promoters, poisoners, lusty dogs, criminals, homos, pedos and guru murderers. The Berkeley police told me the ISKCON temple is "a criminal operation posing as a religion and a magnet for criminals" in 1980.

7. We also said -- in 1978 -- that offering food [bhogha] to these types of deviants will contaminate the offerings, and produce ill effects, which might explain the subsequent explosion of cancer and other fatal ailments all over the Hare Krishna community. And people are still offering food to members of the criminal, poisoners and / or molester messiahs party -- even today. We also said these neophytes cannot absorb sins, which might explain why a number of them fell down, got sick, and died prematurely. Of course people like Bhakta das still think offering food to these people who bury pedophiles in samadhis is acceptable, but all it is doing is -- making people accept the concept that pedophiles belong in samadhis. And GBC and / or Bhakta dasa says Gopal Krishna has been doing a great job, helping bury homosexual pedophiles and porno swamis in samadhis. Worshiping oral sex with boys as samadhi messiahs -- will produce more of that result -- since a society becomes what it worships. Wasn't that the whole plan?

8: Later on we got the so-called poison tape, in 1997. Which begs the question, why was this tape hidden? And why was -- the appointment tape, the last will, the Direction of Management, the 1977 conversations, the letters and other documents -- also hidden from the mass of devotees? And why did a guru tell Sulochana he would be "dead meat on a hook" if he published the letters? And how did he become dead -- shortly thereafter? And why did some people warn me if I release the poison tape "you will be dead in 24 hours"? What kind of society produces these types of murderous fanatics? I forgot, same society that worships the killers of pure devotees.

9: People such as the GBC and Bhakta dasa ilk claim that people could freely choose the guru they wanted in ISKCON. Umm, nope, people who rejected Hansadutta as their guru here were sometimes beaten to a pulp -- and had their bones broken -- and maybe also had their car windows smashed out and tires slashed, which happened to some dissenters here. And many other dissenters all over ISKCON got similar treatment. Worse, the 5 years old children were being told they got abused because they made "the wrong choice of guru," but they had no say in their choice. One ex-child victim told me we had a nice "guru choice" option: die by poison, firing squad or the electric chair. Those were our only "guru" options. Fine choices here! Oddly, some people still think these 5 years olds "got their karma for choosing the wrong guru."

Yep, you can choose a crook / child molester / pedophile / poisoner guru -- or the "successors to the first wave of criminal gurus" who are "2/3 show of hands voted in" by these poison sabha members. And people like Rupanuga were big members of the 1986 "50 man committee of guru reform" movement, where they established that Krishna's guru successors are often deviating drug fueled debauchees who need to be sent to reform school -- and sometimes their messiahs are having oral sex with taxi drivers -- among an extensive encyclopedia of other of their messiah's deviations. And the SAME EXACT people who re-certified oral sex with taxi drivers as ISKCON's Vishnupada messiah -- were also voted in and certified as co-messiahs along with their oral sex with taxi drivers-pada messiah. This was their idea of a reform, to re-certify oral sex with taxi drivers as God's messiahs, and make us targets for assassination for objecting. And I too would have been assassinated, except the undercover cops took down the three goons the GBC folks sent to get me.

Sulochana said these guru reformers are the leaders of a "semen sucking sampradaya" and a "guru suck-session" and therefore it is no wonder so many children are being victims of their program. In other words, the reformers reformed nothing, and Hrdayananda said the guru disease has become an epidemic. Which it has. And did I forget to mention Sulochana was correct, Kirtanananda was having oral sex with young men, and notice the GBC never apologized to Sulochana for going against him and causing his death, and allowing oral sex with young men to continue on by discounting Sulochana. Kirtanananda's ex-maid said he was also trying to have sex with -- the cat. Fine messiahs GBC and Rupanuga produced here!

10: Then, we had to have Tamal's poisoner / molester messiahs program sued in Dallas in 1986 for child abuse. And later on sued again in 1997 -- for the same thing - child abuse. And the entire society was exposed all over the media for being sued for $400,000,000 -- for orchestrating mass child abuse. That means we dissenters were not able to protest the child abuse issue properly since 1979 -- because these gurus claimed we were making offenses to pure devotees etc. which nullified our complaints, and made making complaints dangerous if not deadly. This issue had to go to court because it was just too dangerous to take it to the leaders in person, a dissenter could get killed, and were killed.

11: We could go on here forever, but lets sum up by judging by the results.

(A) Thousands and thousands of sincere bhaktas were banned, exiled and shunned from ISKCON and they are never coming back, ever.

(B) Thousands of kids were abused and victimized, and they are never coming back either, ever. And many of them now hold a grudge against the Krishna religion.

(C) Thousands and thousands of spiritual and material lives have been destroyed and will never be repaired in this lifetime, ever.

(D) Many victims fell down, got sick, got into intoxicants, had health and financial problems, and a number died. Many got cancer which my nurse friend says is a HARE KRISHNA epidemic.

(E) A number of victims were beaten up, like the first UK devotee Kulashekara -- who was beaten so badly by Bhakti Tirtha's goons -- he was in the hospital for months. And he told me that he suffered pain for the rest of his whole life -- he never fully recovered from those injuries. And he died prematurely, and was not getting much proper health care in the end. As Sulochana said, these [Bhakti Tirtha] GBC goonda type people are less advanced than dogs, pigs and snakes. A dog will not harm a Vaishnava, but these ISKCON guru followers will -- beat and kill a Vaishnava -- because they are less advanced than snakes and animals.

Sulochana said this is the result of association with poison snakes posing as gurus, they create more of same. Of course if asuras promote the killers of guru, they will want to kill off the family members and children of the guru as well, as we find asuras kill off whole families as well as the main target. The LA police told me, stay away from Watseka, these people WANT TO KILL YOU. Why do they want to kill us? Because we are not promoting homosexual pedophiles as God's successors.

(F) Millions and billions of ordinary mundane people have been reading all sorts of horrific and nasty news media exposes of the activities of these gurus, which will turn them off from ever being a Krishna devotee. Ever. This has harmed the spiritual lives of UNLIMITED numbers of people -- for this life and many of their future lives. Blocking people from coming to Krishna is VERY SINFUL, if not unforgivable. Making a mockery zoo of Lord Chaitanya's movement will make Lord Chaitanya very angry.

(G) Hence in 1988 Lokanath swami complained the temples are empty ghost towns, skeleton crew. Where did all the devotees go? They were purged out.

(H) Rampant crimes were going on in many sectors because some GBC leaders were not only -- not fixing things -- they were often encouraging / defending the criminals and propping up the criminal's crime activities. And some of the criminals being protected are child abusers. And a whole forum has been made to discuss this criminal behavior. Did I forget to mention the GBC sued the leaders of the child welfare forum, to try to silence anyone who defends children.

(I) Jayapataka people wrote to complain I helped lawsuits that cost ISKCON over $100,000,000. More than the TOVP building. That means the GBC's main priority has been buying new Armani shoes for lawyers, while begging for money for shoes for the kids.

(J) I personally know a number of devotees who died from cancer, alcohol poison, drugs, and many other problems -- because they were depressed by the situation caused by these toxic guru leaders. Even a number of the gurus have suffered all sorts of troubles and ailments. The whole guru show has been a toxic mess for the members, the leaders, and the whole society. Hansadutta died a lonely alcoholic, he was drinking right up to the end. He not only destroyed countless lives of others, ruined the name of Krishna for millions of people all over California with all of his machine gun swami bad public media expose antics, he destroyed his own life. The only winner here is -- Satan.

(K) The argument that the GBC has had to make gurus to avoid a take over by Narayan Maharaja makes no sense. No one would have ever even heard of Narayan Maharaja without the GBC introducing him into ISKCON and promoting him as ISKCON's rasika guru, and now ISKCON has spawned its own competition of Gaudiya Matha off shoots.

(L) A number of the Gaudiya Matha / Narayan people smoke pot and are basically sahajiyas, thanks to being lead there by the GBC.

(M) Many ISKCON temples are being handed off to Hindu managers, some of whom are not even vegetarians. And meanwhile predators, homosexuals, pedophiles, criminals, poisoners and deviants are being buried in samadhi in the dham. Everyone connected to these dham aparadhas will have to suffer severe reactions.

(N) ISKCON India has spent $20,000,000 suing Bangalore, because Bangalore does not want to promote illicit sex messiahs.

(O) Many of Srila Prabhupada's books have been changed and the GBC is promoting rubbish writings of people like Satsvarupa "the more I chant the drier it gets" "I have to battle constantly with doubts that Krishna is a myth." Etc. And thanks to empowering these book changer fools as gurus, they have legal control over the BBT and are forcing changes to the books. If hardly any books are even being printed these days.

(P) The GBC says we do not want to be like the bogus Christians, but Srila Prabhupada promoted Jesus and said his worship is bona fide.

(Q) Conditioned souls cannot absorb sins, and the results of taking sins has been catastrophic for many GBC gurus, their followers, and the society.

(R) Not only children but many hundreds if not thousands of women have been mistreated badly, which has sparked an onslaught of angry women writing nasty things about the Krishna religion on their web sites.

(S) Many deities ended up in dire conditions, which Sulochana summed as "placing Krishna into a ghetto while the leaders live like millionaires."

(T) Srila Prabhupada has been made to look highly defective for "appointing" highly defecting people as God's successors.

(U) An accountant told me ISKCON would be worth billions today if it has gone on expanding as it was. And Srila Prabhupada said whoever makes my mission lose money will have to pay it back in a future life. Wow, these leaders are going to be working in Yama's coal mines for kalpas to pay all this back.

(V) No one is allowed to harm one hair on the head of a Vaishnava, and these gurus have Vaishnavas systematically banned, beaten, sued, molested and -- killed. And poisoned.

(W) Most of these gurus or leaders later on blooped out and stole money and maybe a woman on the way out the door. They never cared about ISKCON, only themselves. They made a house no one could live in, even themselves. Most of the leaders left, and many who remain have resigned from being a GBC, because they do not want responsibility for the mess they made. They started the house on fire, then exited with stolen property to set themselves up -- while the innocents were left inside the burning house to suffer.

(X) The idea now is that conditioned souls can be diksha gurus and absorb sins like Jesus. And Jayadvaita said he has taken too much karma, so he made Kadamba his sin absorbing replacement, who died of cancer. They are even killing each other -- never mind killing us.

(Y) Krishna says He cannot tolerate offenses to His devotees, and the offenders have to apologize, but many of the offended are now dead, that means the offenders will carry the weight of these offenses to their next life.

(Z) Srila Prabhupada says false gurus are destined for the most obnoxious regions. And so is the society they manage, which explains all the problems in ISKCON. The leaders are going to the most obnoxious regions, and they took ISKCON along for the ride down there with them. It all started when they poisoned their guru, and the poison spread to every nook and cranny of the operation. Them -- and all their influence -- has to be purged out, just like Bhishma said all these arrows are draining the blood made from the food I took from Duryodhana, so this is purification. ISKCON needs a similar purification.

Finally, why does Krishna allow all this? When motivated people want to be gurus, and they poison their guru, and then many other motivated for position people support the motivated usurper / poisoner gurus, then Krishna fulfils all their desires collectively, to make an illicit sex with men, women and children guru program, that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills vaishnavas. And worships pedos and guru poisoners as messiahs. They got what they desired. In short, they have had the wrong desires. That needs to be corrected, or there will be no ISKCON left over to argue about.

ys pd

K Dasi Forgives / Mukunda UK / Upendranath 1 3 25

He is our Lord and even our worst enemies

cannot ever change that. Forever. 

K Dasi: I found out today a disciple of Srila Prabhupada named Rupa Manohar das passed away yesterday in Maui. He was the first devotee that caused bodily pain to my son (5 years old at the time along with 4 other boys) in the small ashram at New Navadwipa Honolulu 1979. The boys were beaten badly with a bamboo cane as they lay upon their floor beds. 

Rupa Manohar was not the ashram teacher. The ashram teacher and his wife were wonderful devotees. They had left Rupa Manohar in charge so they could do some errands. When they found out what had happened they were very upset and angry. He was never allowed to be in charge of the young 5-6 years olds ever again. 

The beating was the first my small son had ever experienced. He has never forgotten and neither have I. I’m aware that we have to find it in our hearts to forgive, and my son is a good example. He says he has forgiven everyone that hurt him beat him, abused him throughout his years in gurukula. 

As a mother, it’s more difficult for me. Understanding that this person knowingly and purposely caused pain and harm to your child is a hard pill to swallow. I pray that you Rupa will have a better birth in the next life and not beat on children.

PADA: Wow pilgrims, this problem was much more pervasive than a lot of us imagined. I am glad the mother and her son have been able to forgive this guy and move on, but Lord Yamaraja is not very forgiving with people like this who beat up and otherwise abuse Krishna's children, or any children for that matter. 

I think he is going to have to suffer, and badly. I really cannot imagine the type of karma a person will receive for hurting little children, but it is not going to be nice, guaranteed. There are some very violent, misogynist, and overall creepy people in and around ISKCON, and unfortunately a lot of the GBC leaders fueled their process by being the same type mentality. Birds of a feather. ys pd 

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AMERICAN POLITICS UPDATE

PADA: OK I am not an expert at world economics here, but it looks to me like removing all the immigrant tomato pickers who are getting $3 an hour, and replacing them with USA citizens -- and giving them $20 an hour -- is going to vastly inflate the cost of tomatoes. Or what?

OK not really, the USA people won't pick tomatoes for $20 or even $30 an hour either, they just won't do that type work. The tomatoes will then rot on the vine, with no pickers. So then there will be a shortage of tomatoes, and then it will cost $5 for one tomato. Or? I have no idea why this is a good plan?

Meanwhile, the good paying tech job admin folks are removing the USA workers and they are being replaced with tech immigrants, and that is also the new good idea. OK, so the conclusion is -- the USA citizens are going to get the low paid, cheap, dirty, hard and manual labor jobs, with no health insurance etc. while the tech immigrants are going to get the higher paying skilled jobs, and this is going to fix everything in the USA? Me thinks, nope. 

Hee hee! It just shows me that the political folks are just as out of touch now as they have been all along. If you wonder why you cannot understand the people with severe accents when you call for tech help from a big company, now you know! Nothing against any immigrants really, they are also struggling for existence like all the rest of us, but to say these jobs fixes are fixing the economy and will employ lots of USA citizens -- is just not the reality. OK it sounds to me like another scam.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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MUKUNDA DASA: In 1993 a seed was planted in my heart and mind by Sulocana prabhu. That seed sprouted by the Grace of Srila Prabhupada and the Lord in my heart, as the sublime idea of presenting Prabhupada’s own words about himself, the pure devotee, as his own autobiography.

After eight years of dedicating my life to hearing constantly from Srila Prabhupada, I was able to collect from his lotus lips all the quotations that formed the book called Srila Prabhupada Lilamrita As It Is, which was printed in 2001.

Recently Purujit dasa and his followers have stolen that sublime idea and all my dedicated service and presented it as their own work, in their book called Bhaktivedanta. This is a clear act of plagiarism. They have not asked or been granted any permission to use my work and ideas. They have unscrupulously stolen what already existed and have simply adjusted and repackaged it with their own branding without giving credit to its originators, namely myself and Sulocana Prabhu.

PADA: Mukunda plagarized all of our 1980s PADA documents and copied and pasted all of our quotes -- without giving us any credit. Then he plagarized all our quotes about the changed books. Then he plagarized our transcript version of the poison tape, word for word, and stole the audio of that tape from our posted audio files etc. Basically his whole operation is a plagarized cut and paste of our quotes, audios etc. 

Then he said he wanted to advertise the name of the person who gave me the 1977 tapes, despite this person told me to never mention his name in public, but Mukunda insisted on exposing our delicate info sources and he plastered his name out in public anyway -- to give this poor guy a headache and trouble. Mukunda is attacking the very people who are helping Prabhupada and the Prabhupadanugas. And he is trying to help the GBC make innocent people targets for GBC retribution, possibly violent targets. Why does Mukunda help the GBC target the Prabhupadanugas with violence?

Then he plagarized the audio whispers from Nityananda, after saying Nityananda should have no involvement with the case. Then he plagarized our copy of Sulochana's book, which we posted before anyone else. Then he said PADA is bogus, because we were the very same people who paid to have that book published when Sulochana was here (he was out of funds). 

Mukunda plagaraized the whole Sulochana book without ever mentioning that we are the people who published it in the first place, and he never would have had that book without us publishing it in the first place. 

Then Mukunda said we need to promote -- and work with -- Bhakta dasa, who is promoting Saint Radhanath, who is part of the group of people who took out Sulochana. Mukunda made a video with Bhakta dasa to glorify the Saint Radhanath / Bhakti pedo pada groupies. And then he began to cut and paste Bhakta dasa quotes. 

And the same Saint Radhanath party would have taken me out without help from the FEDS. We need to promote the party of people who took out Sulochana, to glorify Sulochana? Anyway good, he is now reaping what he sows, he is plagarizing others, and now it is happening to him. Hee hee! What goes around goes around! But yeah, he is correct, Purujit is plagarizing the ISKCON Gita and other documents, he is another fraud. But two wrongs don't make a right. 

A number of people have said Mukunda, Purujit, Mathura Pati etc. are trying to make themselves out as "the best and only TRUE Prabhupada devotees," because they have the same self-promoting problems as the GBC people.

ys pd

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UPENDRANATH DASA

“They Should Be Completely Neglected” Part 2

By Upendranath Dasa ACBSP

Prabhupada said about this person. “I have noted, he does not have the heart of a Vaishnava.”

However, we do not neglect such people. We elevate them to the realm of inaccessible gods so we can respect them. Worse, instead of modeling ourselves after our stalwart acharyas, we seek to emulate them. The difficulty is that we are more sentimental than hard-headed realists in our approach to Krishna consciousness. 

This is because at heart we are competing to be the most advanced. We think hard-headed realism puts us at odds with advanced Krishna consciousness. Not so. Prabhupada said repeatedly that the preacher’s duty is to discriminate.

If the letter by TKG was meant as a joke, it was not the least bit funny, considering the time, place, and circumstances. In any event, no one who read it at the time thought it a joke. Absurd, yes. Joke, no. Those who know the author’s history in ISKCON will not find it amusing at any time, in any place, or in any circumstance.

Such persons, possessed by their passionate strivings, are the worst association. Their striving is their idol — not Krishna, not prema, not Srila Prabhupada’s service, not raganuga-bhakti, not any of the virtues by which they rationalize their irrational passions. As Srila Bhaktisiddhanta said:

“Worldly people possess a double nature. They express one kind of sentiment but internally cherish a different purpose. How will our purpose be served with the help of persons who possess a double nature? There is no correspondence between what they say and do. The tidings that the sweet and healthy words of our Sri Gurudeva have brought us will not be listened to by persons who have a double tongue. 

"To him others are tools, things, and means to an end. We will cultivate the society only of those who are straightforward. We will not keep company with any person who is not so. We must, by all means, avoid bad company. We are advised to keep at a distance of a hundred cubits from animals of the horned species. We should preserve the same caution concerning all insincere persons.”

One aspect of this lust for power that the insincere embody is that having impoverished themselves by the alienation process; in order to get back some sense of self-worth, they may try to “possess” others. The alienated fall into different categories. Some are simply using the institution. 

Others are possessed by some person or the institution, or both. They in turn try to possess things and people (who are also things to them). Virtual disciplic chains of alienated persons are formed, and the real parampara is lost. Maya is such serious business.

The person bent on possessing others in the name of Krishna consciousness is obviously “the mundane person in the dress of a Vaishnava.” What a great misfortune when such an alienated person passes for an advanced devotee and rises to the pinnacle of power in an institution in which position is equated with spiritual advancement. 

Worse still, in order to achieve the perfection of life, to be freed from the horrors of repeated birth and death; one is called upon to obey this prisoner of his irrational passions. One is asked to show one’s love for our founder-acharya by cooperating with the servant, not of the Lord, but of his own irrational strivings, his anarthas.

For such persons—pitifully lost to themselves—god brothers, disciples, the institution, guru, and even Krishna Himself are but means to an end, mere rungs of the ladder, stepping-stones. Moreover, because we have completely neglected Prabhupada’s instructions regarding such persons, there are several of them in key positions in the ISKCON society.

It is the responsibility of the leaders of the institution to recognize and weed out such self-estranged persons from our midst. They must be completely neglected. That is the instruction of our Founder-Acharya in Chaitanya-caritamrita, Mad. 2.218 purport:

“A mundane person in the dress of a Vaishnava should not be respected but rejected. This is enjoined in the shastras (upeksha). The word upeksha means neglect. One should neglect an envious person. A preacher’s duty is to love the Supreme Personality of Godhead, make friendships with Vaishnavas, show mercy to the innocent and reject or neglect those who are envious or jealous. 

"There are many jealous people in the dress of Vaishnavas in this Krishna consciousness movement, and they should be completely neglected. There is no need to serve a jealous person who is in the dress of a Vaishnava. When Narottama dasa Thakura says chadiya Vaishnava seva nistara peche keba, he is indicating an actual Vaishnava, not an envious or jealous person in the dress of a Vaishnava. A preacher’s duty is to love the Supreme Personality of Godhead, make friendships with Vaishnavas, show mercy to the innocent and reject or neglect those who are envious or jealous.”

Here Prabhupada describes the madhyama-adhikari according to the Eleventh Canto of Bhagavatam. The preacher’s duty is to discriminate on the basis of these four functions. Neglecting to do so does not vault us into the next class of devotee, uttama-adhikari; rather we remain on the third-class platform, kanistha. 

The verse defining the intermediate devotee makes it plain that the instruction to neglect the envious and jealous should not be neglected. Following this instruction is as important as loving the Supreme Lord, making friends with devotees, and preaching to the innocent.

After the above-quoted letter was sent to the GBC body, the writer took a leave of absence from his GBC duties and took up the pursuit of so called “higher education.” This was a cover up to the fact that the GBC banned TKG from India and not allowed to make new disciples for a period of two years. After completing his college education while ignoring his GBC duties, this year he returned to the GBC meetings. After departing Sri Mayapura dhama in a vehicle on a morning in the month of March, TKG received a reply from Krishna and Prabhupada in regards to his personal ambition, and his pursuit of his irrational strivings and desires when he stated:

“I am not resigning! Due to the influence of raganuga bhakti, I am now twice as competitive, manipulative, nasty, and political as I was before. And it’s now on the spontaneous platform! This is my 25th year on the GBC. If Krishna wills, I will serve another 25 years and then retire gracefully. Allow me that dignity. I am sure Prabhupada would.”

In other words, it was not Krishna’s will nor did Prabhupada allow him that dignity.

ISKCON Replies to Monkey Stick Movie 1 1 25

https://iskconnews.org/official-statement-from-iskcon.../...

Not sure if to laugh or cry. Apparently, iskcon has made a big progress in rectifying power and other abuse since 40 years ago. What a bunch of nonsense.

SRD: Anuttama Dasa seems to have forgotten that ISKCON still has many problems with child abuse and that the GBCs are disbanding the International CPO...

I wonder why he forgot to mention all that!

SH: Seems the truth is coming out and all the GBC can do is lie lie lie.. Only a matter of time and the real truth will hit the streets and people will see the truth of the Hare Krsna movement.. The smes and a few free meals won't be enough and a back lash will occur..

SD: Apparently before the time of Srila Bhaktivinoda the word “Gaudiya Vaishnava “ used to make people curl their lips in disgust. Hopefully in the future the common masses don’t hunt down genuine Iskcon devotees mistaking us for the deviants who have found a safe haven amongst devotees! We better look out, we better take care!

RMD: Forget about the past and ongoing physical and sexual abuse issues, we serve free vegetarian meals which makes up for it. 

TK: Balanced? ....Hue hue

SFD: Tried to read and IDK should be embarrassed for them for not knowing what true crime genre means ; or happy for them for displaying their nature.

GPD: Nice try but - - the cat is out of the bag and it is not going back in, theirs no way these criminal acts can be covered up any more.

RMD: https://youtu.be/k34boxNrqL8?si=klwFnDmHxIAvrE-D

Crazy Baldhead / Running Away (Live At The Rainbow 4th June 1977)

DD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe9NtD1qqGw /////The author of the documentary film tells the story Monkey on a Stick's Jason Lapeyre talks about the line between religion and faith

DM: I was just getting ready to post on here about this! Annutama is crying like a baby because he didnt get to have his say so?

GPD: reading this, 2 songs come to mind at this time, stand up for your rights, and crazy baldheads, both by bob marley.

PADA: Well the biggest leaders of New Vrndavana were made into the next wave of managers, like Radhanath, Devamrita, Umapati, Tapah Punja, Kuladri etc. and then they buried Kirtanananda in a samadhi. Not sure how that fixes anything? 

Notice also that Anuttama never mentions the fact that thousands and thousands of victims do NOT believe ISKCON has rectified. If anything, many victims feel like the leaders are circling the wagons to defend their corrupt regime all the more.

The main problem with the Monkey On A Stick movie is, while they discuss all sorts of side issues, like women's roles in ISKCON, the moon landing imbrogio and so on and so forth, no one mentions that the REAL reason Sulochana was taken out -- he was bringing out documents and evidence that the 11 had not been appointed as gurus. Why was he made a Monkey On A Stick? No one who watches this movie will know for sure, if at all. 

Very disappointed that we know Srila Prabhupada objected to the alleged moon landing program, but the fact that he had not appointed any of these people as gurus, and in fact he vociferously objects to conditioned souls posing as gurus, is not clear at all. 

In fact it more or less looks like he authorized these gurus and then all sorts of mayhem ensued. Anyway what can be done, most people want to emphasize all the crimes and chaos, without explaining the cause, and that is very typical of media events. 

Meanwhile, this is bad publicity for ISKCON's alleged messiahs anyway you look at it, people will be wary of the GBC guru process. And although that is a good thing, it is just unfortunate that they have to be publicly exposed all the time -- and they do not listen to us dissenters -- who warned them all along there will be bad results from their hokey gurus. ys pd

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