Upendranath Dasa
To: Disciples and followers of Srila Prabhupada
Hare Krishna, Jai Sri Nam! (new note: I wrote this a while back, and there are some things that need revising, and there are some things not mentioned, so I will soon post a completely re-written one).
I humbly request that you go to a website, which I have just launched.
The name is Saragrahi.org
I am 78 years old now, and I have had a controversial history with ISKCON leaders -- GBC’s, Gurus, Sannaysis and Temple Presidents: 1972-74 & 1975-79 in Los Angeles, in 1974 at the Juhu Beach Temporary Temple in Bombay India, and in 1993-2001 in the Krishna & Balaram Mandir in Vrindavan India. This experience has led me to re-establish this website that was on the internet in 2002-2010, with a new intent and purpose.
At the Beginning of the Website Contents Links Menu, there are 2 Links that I suggest you go through first, and they are:
1. “Essential Information & Instructions, Regarding Saragrahi.Org”
2. “Saragrahi.Org’s Specific Vision About Free Speech and Civility”
There is a Website Content Link: “f F o r u m : Essays, etc. & Poetry”; which will facilitate the posting articles, essays, papers, and Treatises, by others, which are in pursuant of the purpose and scope of this website.
I have written 3 books, and first volume of a planned 18 volume set project with target date of completion in the year 2026. The Four being posted at this are found in the Website Content Link: “4 Featured Books by Upendranath Dasa”, which contain,
1. A Treatise “Moving Forward” A Case for the Reconstitution of Srila Prabhupada’s Mission? 600 Pages. I think you might be interested in this, in particular. and you might have some appreciation for the contents. This is where I suggest that you put your energy into, so to speak, by participating in its development and refinement; for this website is dynamic in nature. (After consultation, with a colleague Vaisnava, this book will have a major re-write that will take at least until end of 2025 to complete.
The title will remain the same; however, the intent and purpose will change dramatically, with a possible description after the title of: “Preserving and Perpetuating Srila Prabhupada Lagacy In To The Future.” This re-write and posting to the website, will be accomplished in Real-Time.
2. “Srila Prabhupada Antya-lila: 800 Pages. The Last Six Months, Was He Systematically Poisoned?” I think you will appreciate this one as well, because it is a history, that has not been told. In 1993 when I went to live in Vrindavana India, I came to possess a metal trunk, containing around 3,000 pages of type-written transcripts, from taped interview the 1980’s.
In transcribing these into MS Word Documents, I discovered the 1st clues and evidence, that my Spiritual Master, Srila Prabhupada, “WAS POISONED”, by a plot to “hijack” his ISKCON institution, by 11 unscrupulous demonic God brothers. Hence, to make that long story short; I was the source, in 1994, of the now famous “rumor” that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned. This will be the first time that my identity is revealed in regards to this rumor.
PADA: All kinds of people have been taking credit for introducing the poison issue, but when we started to distribute copies of the tape in 1997 everyone said "I never heard about this." So if someone else had the tape and was making transcripts, I did not see them then, and have not seen his -- yet?
Mukunda and Prahlad das UK also claim they were first to introduce the tapes, but oddly, their transcript is the exact same one I made in 1997? I think they copied and pasted mine. Meanwhile Mukunda said in 1997 that Nityananda should not be involved, because Mukunda wanted to suppress the forensic investigation, which is how we got the hair sample, audio forensics etc. Sorry, this was all needed.
Meanwhile Upendranath has not made any forensics that we know of? Meanwhile Prahlad says he supports Mukunda, i.e. we should not have worked with Nityananda to get the forensics done, to help the GBC cover this up. And Nityananda has written the best books on this topic the whole time. They want to suppress the poison complaint from a pure devotee.
Anyway, Upendranath should be working with us on this issue, but he has never contacted me about anything -- ever. And then later on Mukunda stole our forensics info, without giving us credit, claiming he made all this. It is all about who gets credit for what -- and not, what happened to Srila Prabhupada?
3. “What Is the Eternal, Constitutional Function of The Jiva? /Soul?” 900 Pages.
This one I do hope that you will give it some consideration; because it is a “treasure map”, that explains the “Purpose of The Human Form of Life”.
It is Compiled from Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur’s Jaiva-dharma (1896); Just the Nectarian Knowledge (Sastra), Without the Thakur’s Novel & Stories; bascally an extraction of the Questions and Answers embedded in the novel and sub-stories.
PADA: And Prabhupada told us not to cite that book because it has been edited.
4. Bhagavad-gita As It Is: “A Treatise on Human Psychology” : Prabhupada, once said that the Bhagavad-gita is actually pure Human Psychology, and instructed one of his First Disciples, that such a book should be written, however after over 50 years have past and this Disciple, in name only, has not written this book.
Nevertheless, in 1996, I heard this Disciple tell my Godbrother Kundali Dasa that he has no idea on how to carry out this instruction by Prabhupada, and requested that he (Kundali) do so. Moreover, Kundali, himself, has since ceased to write any further books, on the subject of the Science of Krishna.
PADA: Kundali was saying that Srila Prabhupada's back to Godhead idea is wrong because we were never with Godhead. He is a mayavada.
At this time, I have only done the 47 Verses of the 1st Chapter, and it has turned to be a 350-page book, which is my Forth; however this project will turn out to be at least an 18 Volume Set, ranging from 300 to 600 pages each, one book for each of the 18 chapters; I expect to finish this project, by the end of 2026.
I do need help in this project, and all that is required is that have a computer, have MS-Word, and any E-mail account, and if you got the time, and more important, "the desire!
There is also a Website Contents Link for “The 5 Aspects of Vaisnava Theory & Practice: by Kundali Dasa”, which contain these 5 books of about 300-400 Page Each:
1. “Raising Our Spiritual Standards”
2. “Variety of Dysfunctional Experience”
3. “Faith, the Analytical Mind & the Uttama-adhikari”
4. “The Heart of Reform”
5. “A Treatise: The Three Modes of Material Nature”
There is a Website Content Link for the Underground Classic “In Vaikuntha Not Even The Leaves Fall”. The origin of the Jiva Controversy in Vrindavana 1994-96, by Satyanarayana Dasa & Kundali Dasa. 369 Pages.
PADA: Yep, another Gaudiya Matha inspired document.
I have organized these lengthy works, in somewhat short Segments, in order to facilitate convenient and easy reading. All Segments have the facility for Comments, and comments to comments (more or less a “Thread” capability).
The website is yet not complete, and you will see in the 11 Website Content pages, various presentations that have been completely posted, and those that have been partially posted (remainder are a work in progress), and will be by completely posted by the end of this year, or in the early part of 2025. Nevertheless, the current website contents, encompasses 1,081 web-pages, as of May 4th 2024.
The Treatise “Moving Forward”, is an effort to begin the organization of the of likeminded devotees coming together, in a professional and organized manner, to accomplish this. I have professional experience in planning and organization, and I know that more heads are better than one.
Why do you think that Lord Brahma has multi-heads? I have one associate, at this time, and it is my desire to have 3, 6, or 9, at least. We are not like Lord Brahma; hence, the need for 9 heads.
There are 2 Website Contents Links, “Srila Prabhupada’s Books in Audio Presentations” and “Audio Presentation of Books by Past Acaryas.”
Finally, there are Website Content Links for:
1. “Srila Prabhupada Documentary Videos,1970's”.
2. “Srila Prabhupada Disciples & Followers; Video Kirtana”.
3. “Srila Prabhupada & Disciples; Audio Kirtana”.
Thank you in advance, for your consideration, and I hope that you will come and see if Saragrahi.org is your "cup of the Science of Krishna according to Srila Prabhupada" be inspired to cooperate, and participate in this Dynamic Website, Saragrahi.org
Upendranath dasa
updindia@gmail.com
PADA: Well we are all about cooperation, but you should have asked for cooperation when you guys started to cite the mayavada jeeva origins, we could have told you that is not correct, but you did not consult with us and still don't. Unfortunately, there is a lot of "Johnny come lately" to all these efforts, and it is way too late to help most of the victims.
ys pd
angel108b@yahoo.com
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Karma of Criticism
There was a king who was famous for distributing food to Brahmins. Once, during the distribution of food, an eagle flew over the venue where the banquet was taking place, it was clawing to a dead snake. A drop of venom accidentally fell from the snake's mouth and fell into one of the plates of food the king was handing out.
No one knew or saw what had happened, so the King just kept handing out food like nothing happened. A Brahmin who received a plate of poisoned food ate and died and it saddened the king.
One of the servants of Yamaraja (Superintendent of Death), whose service was to return karma to living beings, was confused about who should give karma for the sin of poisoning a Brahmin: it was not the fault of the eagle, who carried the dead snake in its claws, and it was not the blame Of the dead snake, the king was also not guilty, for he didn't know that the poison had accidentally fallen into the food.
Meanwhile, many other Brahmins have come to this kingdom. They wanted to meet the king Seeing a woman sitting on the roadside, they asked her: "Do you know where the king's palace is and how can we get there?"
The woman replied, "Yes, I know." She pointed out the direction Brahmins should take. "But be careful," she added, "the king is known as a murderer of Brahmins!"
The moment she said that, the servant Yamaraja realized who should give the karma for that Brahmin's death, and gave it to this woman!
Moral of the story:
If you criticize someone and are right in their accusations, you receive half the bad karma. But if you criticize someone and blame them undeservingly, you'll receive 100% of all the bad karma.
This story inspires us to be careful what we think or say about others.
---The Lion Guru His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisidanta Sarasvati Thakur Jagad Guru Prabhupada.
PADA: Yeah, the Berkeley police once told me in 1986, everyone who criticizes you is helping all these bogus gurus and all their child molesting, beatings and murders program. That is true, and that means the critics also share the karma, even the police know that.
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“CHAPTER 6: SOMEBODY HAS GIVEN ME POISON (Cont.)- SECTION TWO: SOMEONE SAYS I HAVE BEEN POISONED cont. (11/09/77)- SP: (Unintelligible)...
unknown whispers. SP: (Beng) Keu bole je poison kore dieche... hote pare. (Someone said that poison has been given... may be true.) Balarama Misra: Hmm? Kaviraja: (Hindi) Kya farmarahe hai? (What are you saying?) SP: (Hindi)
Koi bolta hai je koi poison deya hai. (Somebody says that someone has given poison.)
Kaviraja:Kisko?(To whom?) SP:Mujhko. (To me.)
WHY TELL OUTSIDERS BEFORE DISCIPLES? -The first and very curious question is: Why did Srila Prabhupada not raise this issue first with his own trusted and intimate disciples? Why choose Balarama Misra, whom Srila Prabhupada had not seen for a long time, and then the second person to know of it was the kaviraja, and both were outsiders?
Why did Srila Prabhupada not simply tell Tamal, his personal secretary, or any one of his own disciples? NTIAP*(see below) has two pages arguing against the idea that Srila Prabhupada told outsiders first because he thought his disciples were the poisoners, as though the “poison theory” hinges on this detail, which of course it does not. Still, whoever he spoke to first or last, which is a side issue, Srila Prabhupada is talking of actually being poisoned.
Srila Prabhupada, who was always perfectly guided by the Supersoul in every action and spoken word, made such a shocking revelation first to outsiders, and then by default his disciples and the entire world through his tape recorder. Of course, the tapes were controlled by Tamal, so maybe Srila Prabhupada was trying to bypass the tapes that went missing under Tamal’s care. (see Ch. 63) Srila Prabhupada’s message was meant to reach beyond his circle of attendants, and perhaps he did this just to circumvent the poisoners or to ensure the news got outside his rooms and the “family.”
Tamal had for many months already set up a very tight security cordon around Srila Prabhupada. Only those screened by Tamal were allowed to see Srila Prabhupada, and most devotees, dignitaries, Godbrothers, and locals were refused entry.
Many who came to Vrindaban to see Srila Prabhupada could not enter and were frustrated. Many of Srila Prabhupada’s old friends later said they were turned away: Nrshimananda Goswami, OBL Kapoor, Vishwambhar Goswami, Dr. Khurana, Dr. Ghosh (VRI), etc. Is it any wonder that when an opportunity arose, Srila Prabhupada asked Shastri to bring Balaram Misra and tell him about his poisoning and get the word out to the Vrindaban locals, bypassing Tamal and ISKCON?
This is the assumption. Tamal somehow missed this tape with so much on it. Still, Srila Prabhupada treated the matter rather casually. He said in Bengali,“somebody said that someone poisoned him.” The kaviraja asked what he was saying, and Srila Prabhupada repeats himself in Hindi.
Then, with “to me,” he confirms he is speaking of himself. Srila Prabhupada (1) is talking of actual poisoning, (2) not just the symptoms of poisoning, and (3) he states it three times. We note that there are clearly two unknown persons to which Srila Prabhupada has made reference, namely the informant (“someone”) and the poisoner (“somebody”), neither of whom are identified…….
………WHAT WAS SRILA PRABHUPADA’S PURPOSE? Why would Srila Prabhupada initiate a discussion of his own poisoning if it were not true? Did Srila Prabhupada carelessly say these things in several separate discussions (as we will see) over two days because: (1) He wanted to create confusion? (To the contrary- everything he did was for establishing the Hare Krishna Movement for the next 10,000 years, and that includes his spoken words on being poisoned.) (2) He was speculating, rambling, or just plain cranky? (forgive the outrageous suggestions.) (3) He brought up the subject of poisoning because he wanted to then later clearly state that he was NOT being poisoned?
(This is the GBC’s ridiculous position, but this makes no sense at all.) ANSWER: None of the above are sensible explanations. He said these things because they were true and he wanted us to know that he thought he was being poisoned. That he did not aggressively pursue the matter is another discussion (see Ch. 101), and does not minimize the importance of what he did say. Perhaps the purpose to his revelation a few days before his departure was to leave the service of follow-up and investigation work to us, at least those who would take his words seriously.” (Srila Prabhupada’s Hidden Glories, 1.30)