Monday, October 13, 2025

Jane Wallace Video / Why I Left ISKCON 10 13 25

 

PADA: Thanks JD, you got it, the meat eating Christian ritviks are embraced by the ISKCON leaders, but the Krishna ritviks are beaten, sued and killed. Yep! Meanwhile, another Hindu guru's temple followers came to the ISKCON temple to hand out fliers to advertise their program. Everyone knows ISKCON is a Hindu program, including the Hindus. And yep, a number of them eat meat. 

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PADA: Jane Wallace's show was our first participation in a TV news broadcast after Sulochana's departure. Jane Wallace first of all asked me -- is Kirtanananda's sitting on a big seat covered with the hands of many little boys "pedophile heaven." I said yep it is. She said thank God we met you, we thought all the Hare Krishnas supported this pedophile's worship, because -- almost all the rest of the Krishna people we interviewed thought -- there was nothing wrong. OK people like the GBC and Radhanath could not figure out what she could figure out -- in two seconds.

She also said she would have yanked that bogus guy off his seat all by herself if this had happened in her Church, and she could not understand why all the Bhagavad Gita warriors were going along with all this nonsense. She is right. 

The bulk of the devotees at the time, especially at New Vrndavana, were all going along with this. And almost all of the devotees would not support me and Sulochana -- and many or most of them opposed us. All of that empowered and enabled the pedo pooja program, to the peril of ISKCON. 

And to the peril of the children of ISKCON, as we see herein: 

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WHY I LEFT ISKCON

BORN IN ISKCON -- BUT DISTRESSED 

PH: 

I was born into ISKCON and grew up believing it was a place of love and protection. What I saw, and what many others have seen, was different: silence around abuse, leaders protecting abusers, and families like mine left broken and forgotten.

This letter to Srila Prabhupada is my way of giving voice to that pain and asking for change. It speaks for my mother, my sister, and for friends who were also hurt in gurukulas and devotee homes. We are still living with the effects — illness, trauma, fear. I share this because I believe that truth is part of healing.
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Dear Srila Prabhupada,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to you, the Founder-Acharya of ISKCON.

I was born into your movement. My parents served with their hearts — they were married in a temple room, chanted sincerely, and built their lives around devotion to Krishna. My mother was joyful, creative, and full of love. She taught me to offer every drawing, every meal, every moment to the Lord. We made backdrops for the Deities, cooked for Krishna, and went on long walks singing kirtan. I fell asleep to her chanting every night.

My father worked hard and served the temple, but he was distant from us. His spirituality often felt like rules without love, service without tenderness. Over time I watched him grow angry, and my mother grow smaller. I saw him belittle her, insult her, and call her names no wife — no devotee — should ever hear. I saw her do everything for the family, for the temple, and for him, and still be told she was not enough.

When the abuse became unbearable, we left — my mother, my sister, and me. We had no safety net, no protection from the community we had served all our lives. We were homeless. No prasadam was brought to us. No one from the temple checked if we were safe. Not one devotee reached out. No one asked if we needed help, food, or shelter.

Srila Prabhupada, this is what I cannot understand. You gave the world the holy name and taught that love for Krishna means love for every living being. Yet within your movement, I have seen women and children neglected, silenced, and abused.

I am not the only one who has suffered. I know friends in Mayapur who were hurt too. I know a young boy who was suicidal because of what happened to him in the gurukula. I know families where mothers were abused, and children watched in silence. I know fathers at temples — even at the Manor — who hurt their own families, using Krishna consciousness as a weapon. 

My close freind now in South America went through a similar experience, her parents abandoned her, her mother stayed with her father even through he abused her emotionally. If there is domestic abuse, there is child abuse.

And there are far too many children in your family who have suffered in silence.
I’ve heard of mothers abandoned by their husbands, of devotees forced into isolation, of respected men who have abused and still lead kirtan, still give lectures, still sit on vyasasanas. I’ve heard of Lokanath Swami, who harmed a girl and yet continues to sing in temples. I’ve heard of others — leaders and gurus — who have done terrible things but are still protected. My own father was protected too.

So how can I stay in ISKCON, Srila Prabhupada?

How can I walk into a temple room with this pain in my heart? How can I bow before the Deities knowing that so many abusers are honored, and so many victims forgotten? I feel betrayed. I feel angry. I’ve lost trust.

I don’t believe in the leadership anymore. They protect each other. They protect abusers. They call it humility or forgiveness, but it’s silence — and that silence destroys lives.

You taught that Krishna consciousness is compassion, not control. Love, not fear. Yet what I have seen is pride, denial, and cruelty in the name of service.
This year, Srila Prabhupada, I left ISKCON. I had to. I could no longer stay in a society that speaks of purity but hides so much pain. I still love Krishna — the Krishna of my childhood, the one who smiled through my paintings, who I offered flowers to, who I spoke to when I was scared. That love remains. But the institution that carries your name has broken my heart.

I want your movement to reflect your compassion

I want no child, no mother, no devotee to ever feel the pain we felt. ISKCON should be a home we all feel safe in, but we don't, so much abuse in your movement.

Please, Srila Prabhupada, if your spirit guides ISKCON, then let there be truth. Let there be safety. Let there be real love.

Your granddaughter

(with deep wounds) still prayering that my own father's eyes open, and he heals)

MB: Congrats to you. You don't need them to have a relationship with god, or to assist your spiritual progress. You never did. Its a control system they created by brainwashing us to think that our individual spiritual life depends on being part of the group. "Devotee association".

My own parents to this day truly believe that if they were to leave the temple that their spiritual life would be over. Just like that, in a second gone. Thus is the brainwashing.

It was never normal from the beginning. Why should children have to live in a fanatic setting where the basic tendencies of a child are frowned upon, waking up at 3 am and spending their days doing "service". Not allowed to have fun, and brainwashed to think desires are maya. 

They were training the next generation of non remunerated workers. From day one its been wrong. What kind of future awaits children that grow up in the "ashram"? Because they are not going to pay your bills, or look after your toddler. Like you said its a sad story, marking 2 generations. The first generation literally spent their whole lives blindly serving the institution, missing out on having a normal family experience. And in the process, destroyed their family.

BR: Gosh thanks for sharing! So true and so unfortunate💔 For a movement that's supposed to be about love, acceptance compassion and mercy - we see fear, abuse, guilt, shame and repression. Somehow there's love and acceptance for abusers ironically. So messed up. Thanks for opening up and sharing. I feel your pain and I want you to know you're not alone. You haven't left Iskcon. Iskcon left you. Iskcon failed you. Krishna is always going to be there ❤️❤️❤️



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Sunday, October 12, 2025

Bhakti Ananda Goswami Departs + ISKCON's Interfaith Program 10 12 25



Can someone bring me some pot cookies in Vrndavana?
My migraines are acting up again!
Hee hee.


JD: I got it already. The meat eating Christian ritviks are welcome in ISKCON, the devotee ritviks are banned, beaten and sued. What I thought! Makes perfect sense about what is really going on.

Henry Doktorski:

Rest In Peace, Bhakti Ananda Goswami (David Sherman)

I attended Bhakti Ananda Goswami's sannyasa initiation ceremony at New Vrindaban, around 1992. Radhanath Swami presided at the fire sacrifice. I always liked him, for his friendly personality and his incredible research about world religions.

I also corresponded with him around 2015 when I was writing "Killing For Krishna." He is cited in the book several times, but he requested to remain anonymous, as he was a bit fearful that my godbrother Janmastami might cause him problems. He told me Janmastami in the 1990s had sent him postcards in the mail threatening karmic retribution for his prior support of Bhaktipada.

[Photo of Bhakti Ananda Goswami with Sister Piety in the New Vrindaban prasadam room adjacent to the temple room.]

Penelope Anderson says: I have just heard of the passing of the extraordinary personality Bhakti Ananda Goswami. When he was healthier he participated in several forums i was involved in such as Progressive Vaisnavism. He had a busy schedule but still made time to discuss various philosophical points with me and others.

One quality i particularly respected was his bold denunciation of the culture of child abuse within ISKCON. and his compassionate and empathetic nature.

From Soolabha Doyal

"Today I honour the passing of the saint and Vaisnava scholar Srimad Bhakti Ananda Gosvami Maharaja. Being a disciple of Srila Prabhupada, initiated leader of Jhansi League of Devotees, being an active Pureland Buddhist and consecrated Catholic Priest, the pioneer of interfaith paleo-linguistics, a master of multi-faith religious history, who's research and revelations unify all present and past religions in the name of Sri Caitanya-deva.

Maharaja brought down the walls of prejudice and sectarian spirit among followers of the one true God, who manifests in various ways throughout the ages. One great contribution was his tracing of the spread of the Holy Name of Hari through every culture of the Old World (Afro-Eurasia). Much of his work has been archived by his followers Elijah Dobkins (https://hierophant.netlify.app/) and Vedic Empire Productions.

May he continue to serve Sri Gauranga, Sri Krsna and Sri Radha in the spiritual world."


PADA: OK I am always totally bewildered if not pinching myself to see if I am dreaming or not, when all sorts of ISKCON people are promoting multi-cultural "interfaith dialogue and acceptance," including Kirtanananda's establishing a deity of Jesus. Right, we should all love and appreciate all other religions, especially the Christians -- who follow the ritvik system -- of having priests offer baptism on behalf of Jesus. Wow, where do I sign up?

Oooops! Not my experience whatsoever. As soon as I say people should worship Srila Prabhupada as the acharya, then all sorts of ISKCON people ESPECIALLY from ISKCON places like NEW VRNDAVANA say -- oh no, God forbid, that is the bogus Christian's ritvik idea! Stomp that out quick! 

You ritviks are totally bogus and need to be banned, beaten, sued, and maybe -- killed -- for promoting the bogus ritvik idea of worship of a pure devotee! That is strictly verbotten in ISKCON and you will be punished badly for promoting such blasphemy, as to suggest it is a good idea to worship a pure devotee, and not worship our homosexuals, pedophiles and lusty intoxicated fools like Jayatirtha as the messiahs of the jagat.

Does the term double standard apply here? Or hypocrisy? Or just bone headed irrational cultism? Yeah we love the people who follow the ritvik system, which is why they need to be hunted and killed! And the GBC has made umpteen hundreds if not thousands of position paper directives on forbidding the worship of pure devotees in ISKCON aka the "bogus ritvik idea."

NOT allowed! 

Meanwhile the ISKCON leaders are meeting with Protestant, Methodist, Pentecostal, Church of England and Catholic priests -- or even Muslim leaders -- all day and night, to make cheezy photos of themselves embracing these priests. Yep, we love the ritviks to pieces, which is why, we have them banned, beaten, sued and -- killed. 

How does this make ANY sense? OK it is the highest form of hypocrisy ever made in religion's circles. The good news is, I was loved so much that I was only chased with bats, before the FEDS stepped in and saved me from getting a .45 slug in the head. OK the police told me these people HATE your guts, and they want to KILL you. And they will kill you -- if they think for one minute that they can get away with it. OK. They have zero percent love for us ritviks, lets fact it.

That means all this interfaith "pro-ritviks" messaging is -- to me at least -- simply false propaganda, ok lies, and has no actual bearing on the situation going on in ISKCON. The ritviks are commonly banned, if not beaten -- sometimes to a pulp like Kulashekar was, if not sued -- like Bangalore was -- if not -- killed. 

In sum, the Hare Krishna's rtiviks are not allowed, but the mundane religion's ritviks are embraced. The upshot now is, the Western people are abandoning the ISKCON ship, because yeah, the Westerners are following a tradition of worshiping a pure devotee like Jesus (the ritvik system), and so they are going to reject a religion that worships deviants. 

Bhakti Ananda did not want his statement published until he departed, fearing for his safety. OK, I hear this a lot, well yeah prabhu, you are right, but I am never going to speak up, these people are too scary. OK and what happens to the children when the people who know there is a problem -- do not speak up -- and defend those children? Yep, we all know what happens to those children.   

As for Janmastami well this is another baffling case. First, he wrote to apologize for being part of the group that was hunting us. He says, 1,000,000 obeisances at your feet prabhu! He was very friendly and apologetic. Then he oddly went haywire, and started blaming me for this and that happening. Dude! I was a taxi driver in San Francisco, I had no powers to change the ISKCON world. 

And no one wanted to join me because you guys were frightening them. Sorry, you guys are 99.99% responsible for the whole imbroglio, OK I am too, but only .001%. You guys are the main cause of all this mess, please do not blame the messenger! So I had to block the guy's e-mails because he was resorting to swearing and cursing at me, and had no control over his communication skills. Evidently, after that his house was raided by the police for his pot program.  

Which shows me -- he has a lot of anger management issues, if not intoxication issues, which is why he was chosen to be their goonda. Anyway, these interfaith people are just beating around the bush in my opinion, and avoiding the real issues that plague ISKCON. And they are making ISKCON look all the more like a hokey compromised Hindu Bindu hodge podge or "it is all one religion" etc. -- while not fixing the giant mess in their own religion. OK it is a cop out in my estimation, to avoid dealing with the actual situation on the ground in ISKCON. 
 
October 12, 1993: On this date in history 32 years ago, in a letter to a godbrother, Hansadutta explains, “The bottom line about Kirtanananda Swami is he has an overwhelming, deep-seated ambition to be a holy man, . . . a religious mentor—in short, a guru, or to put it bluntly, ‘The Guru of the Gurus.’ In one word, he wants to be Prabhupada.”
For more about this topic, see Henry’s book, “Gold, Guns and God,” Vol. 9, p. 218.

PADA: Yeah Hansadutta sends everyone from Berkeley to "the only pure devotee on the planet Kirtanananda" at New Vrndavana, then sends three goondas back from there to take me out. He knew this was a hoax the whole time, but he wanted -- yep -- to be the next Prabhupada himself. And he wanted me -- dead. ys pd

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Saturday, October 11, 2025

Fake Sadhu? / BBTI Russia / GBC Deceit / Collapse of Banks 10 11 25


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ANOTHER FAKE SADHU?

APD: With great sadness, we must inform the community that Sriman Uttam Krishna Prabhu (India) has been added to the list of our reports. Uttam Krishna Das presents himself as a peaceful "brahmachari" monk, but in practice, he likes to surround himself with young girls with whom he constantly chats privately and even receives from them some letters inappropriate for a “celibate” monk.

During his previous visit to Chile, and given that we were friends, I (Janardan) discovered one of those letters and saw it with my own eyes. After that, I tried to speak with him to offer my support and make him aware of the danger of his situation, hoping he would reflect and step down from his platform as a “celibate preaching monk,” considering that in some countries he is even treated almost as a guru.

When the scandal of BV Vana and his sect of thugs came to light, Uttam Krishna chose to cling to his selfish share of influence over others rather than to reality. Therefore, unfortunately, we now have to make public the deception of this false monk so that the community may know the truth and decide whether or not to continue being around him, especially if they have young daughters.

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RUSSIAN NEWS: BBT, changes Prabhupada books, and the "Indian" facade at the Moscow International Book Fair—who is replacing Prabhupada and why? An expose.

While the power brokers in the spiritual marketplace are churning out "official" credentials, a quiet substitution is taking place behind the scenes. At the Moscow Book Fair (Indian pavilion, supported by the Embassy and the Ministry of Culture), we were once again presented with a "complete library" of Srila Prabhupada—but the truth is far from on display. Below are facts, documents, and questions that the organizers and "official" publishers are unwilling to discuss.

In short: there is historical, legal, and editorial confusion between the various organizations using the BBT brand; at the same time, independent researchers and a number of former and current devotees are publicly pointing out unauthorized edits and the fact that some of the "new" editions do not match what Prabhupada originally intended. This can't be dismissed as trivial quibbles—it's a question of the authenticity of sacred heritage. Details below.

1) BBT at the fair—is it really the "original BBT"?

The organizers and the Indian delegation did indeed announce the presence of the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust at the Moscow fair and the participation of the Indian side (Ambassador V. Kumar and the National Book Trust). These official reports are included in the press releases and news from the Indian pavilion.

However, there has been long-standing legal and identity confusion between several organizations with similar names—the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust (the original trust established by Prabhupada) and Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International, Inc. (BBTI), a corporation created later. Independent resources and schisms within the Vaishnava community detail that these are different legal entities and that rights and control over the texts have been disputed.

2) Editorial Changes – Official Acknowledgment and Criticism.

The alarm is not unfounded: back in 2019–2022, the BBT and related agencies created editorial committees and publicly discussed the "issue of changes" to Prabhupada's books—meaning, the representatives themselves acknowledged the discussion and intervention. This isn't just rumor—there are public BBT materials stating the creation of an Editorial Review Panel to resolve disputes over edits.

At the same time, independent websites and groups (critical of the current management of Prabhupada's estate) are publishing specific accusations: changes are being made to bring the texts into line with the current ideology and practices of the governing bodies; there are examples of reworkings and deletions, as well as loud claims of "rewriting" of texts. These materials document instances in which many devotees have demanded transparency and the preservation of the author's texts.

3) BBT vs. BBTi – Who is "official" and whom to trust?

The history of these disputes is long: legal and public disputes over rights, copyright transfer, and who has the right to publish "original" texts are contained in archived publications. Some websites representing the viewpoint of opponents of the current team call BBTI an "inauthentic" organization that appropriated the brand and rights years after Prabhupada's passing. This explains why exhibitions sometimes display "BBT" in a broad sense, while in reality, a completely different legal entity may be operating under this name.

4) What does this mean for the reader and for the fair?

— When official venues (including national pavilions supported by embassies) provide a platform for publications with questionable editorial histories, this undermines the reader's right to the authentic text and misleads the public. We can't simply dismiss this: we are talking about the movement's core texts.
Conclusions and demands (what should be required of organizers and publishers):

1. A full public declaration of who exactly represented BBT at the fair (legal name, office, contact information).

2. A complete list of the publications whose versions were exhibited, and information about what editorial changes/translations were made (and by whom).

3. Access to Prabhupada's archives/original dictations/author's manuscripts for independent verification, so that readers can compare.

Srila Prabhupada's name must not be allowed to become a brand for political and internal maneuvering. When government support (the Indian pavilion, the embassy) and a merry-go-round of PR reports mask real editorial and legal confusion, the public must ask: whose version is being presented? We have a right to the original, not "negotiated versions" or "administrative adaptations." The truth must be transparent - and we will demand it.

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GBC’S DECEIT # EIGHT of TEN:


OFF-THE-WALL CONCLUSIONS, SELECTIVE OMISSIONS


(1) GBC stated that since many devotees ate Srila Prabhupada’s maha prasadam in 1977 and they did not become ill, therefore Srila Prabhupada was not poisoned. This insane logic assumes Srila Prabhupada was poisoned via food that was then distributed. However, most likely, poison was given intermittently or in food / drinks which were not distributed. Poisoners would know not to poison others too, to avoid detection.

PADA: Yeah, the poisoners did not know it would not be a good idea to poison everyone else. So they would have poisoned everyone else too. Really?

(2) GBC never explained their hero Tamal Krishna Goswami’s “mercy killing” interview, Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning statements, nor Srila Prabhupada’s conversation with his caretakers, who clearly accept and acknowledge Srila Prabhupada’s homicidal poisoning. Why?

(3) A GBC film included a clip from Primeau Forensics on how whispers are often misinterpreted by what the listener wants to hear, recommending a forensic analysis, and yet, the GBC never countered eight expert audio forensic studies on these whispers with their own study. Why?

PADA: Yeah, Balavanta was the GBC investigator. He is neighbors with the people doing the forensic whisper study. Then he suddenly bails out and quits. Hmmm?

(4) GBC stated that caretakers would not talk / whisper about poisoning on tape, so the “poison theory” is ridiculous.

BUT: multiple forensic studies have verified the poison whispers, so it appears the caretakers thought the tape recorder could not pick up their background speaking! Also, why were they whispering?

PADA: Yeah this looks like a weak idea. I myself did not know the whispers were on the tape, it takes some good audio equipment to bring them up. The whispers are further evidence, plain and simple.

(5) GBC says the “poison theory” was concocted from nothing due to malice. What matters is the messenger’s hidden motives, not the real evidence? This is standard propaganda methodology: to attribute an ill motive to the adversary and discard the facts. But the evidence of poisoning is irrefutable, certified, and not a theory.

PADA: Yeah attack the messenger.


(6) GBC book: “To suggest that Srila Prabhupada felt like he was being poisoned by his most trusted men implies he didn’t have common sense to immediately send anyone away he did not trust …he could summon mystic powers and know who was betraying him … Srila Prabhupada just went along with it? Srila Prabhupada would have outsmarted his envious disciples and is offensively portrayed like a confused martyr, willing to sacrifice his own life, being so tolerant, compassionate.”

This errant interpretation negates Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning? This idea that he would have saved himself and stopped the poisoning is flawed. Jesus accepted his crucifixion, carrying his own cross, and did not use mystic powers to save himself. Did Haridas Thakur stop his tormentors? What of Prahlad or Mirabhai? Yes, the pure devotee has inconceivable mercy and tolerance.

PADA: Does not seem to hold a lot of water either. Jesus knew he was in trouble, he could have left the area, but he stayed. What difference does that make?

(7) GBC: “With all due respect to Dr. Morris and his Hyperpure Dermanium Generator Detector at Univ. Missouri, he simply isn’t a toxicological expert.” But Dr. Morris did not make a toxicological evaluation of the cadmium findings (he simply did the tests).

Meanwhile, the GBC has no experts on 250 X normal average hair cadmium, and instead, they ridicule Dr. Morris. Such hypocrisy! Dr. J S Morris has testified in court hundreds of times and his credentials were never questioned.

(8) GBC: “If this were heard by a trial jury, the prosecuting attorney would have to explain with great detail where the poison was acquired, who obtained it and how they learned to administer it.”

PADA: Nope, why would this be required? A lot of these things can be found by doing some research in a library. Never mind that, some poisons tell you on the bottle that this product can kill a person.  

Actually, the hair tests are court-quality proof that Srila Prabhupada WAS lethally, homicidally poisoned, and who did the poisoning is a separate issue. The GBC ridicules the notion of cadmium poisoning as “complicated, difficult.” But cadmium salts are readily available and can easily taint food/drink, and hair tests prove a lethal poisoning took place. A six-year forensic study by Truth Labs (India) determined the caretakers did it, likely led by Tamal.

(9) GBC: “This poison conspiracy has caused so much alienation, hurt, resentment, and chaos in all branches of the Vaishnava community, and this rumor has been so disruptive to Lord Chaitanya’s movement.” Well, the truth can hurt, but ultimately it heals, and honesty is the best path. Why hide from or fear the truth? We must use our intelligence to ascertain the truth. Study the facts and evidence-- judge for yourself.

(10) GBC: “The hair samples, which changed hands many times, were not stored in a clean, controlled environment and could have even been replaced with other hairs by a zealot disciple, are all possible.” This is false. The hair samples’ chain of custody was impeccable, fully documented, and the GBC had custody throughout (and no one else). Dr. Morris was engaged by the GBC’s Balavanta das. This doubt-mongering is dishonesty and deception. Why does the GBC disparage the tests they arranged with Dr. Morris and invited others to pay for? Further, there is so much other evidence confirming the hair tests. 

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Collapse of the Artificial Banking

January 21, 1977, Bhubaneswar

"Rāmeśvara: (...) And you mentioned about the gold standard, that this is very bad, this artificial standard of monetary exchange.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. It is very bad.
Rāmeśvara: In the future this is something that we should try to correct.
Prabhupāda: You should introduce coin, real money.
Hari-śauri: Real gold coins. No paper.
Prabhupāda: Anyone has got money… It is fact. And what is this nonsense, keeping some paper and thinking that he has got money? How cheating it is going on, from government’s side. And therefore artificial inflation. You can print, so the price is increased. Because you haven’t got to pay him real money—you print and pay him—and he will ask, “Give me this money. Then I’ll supply.” “All right, take.” You print and pay.
Rāmeśvara: It’s definitely a means that the government has for controlling. Because they can withdraw money, pull it back out of circulation by increasing the interest the banks give, or they can get more money in…
Prabhupāda: Anything done artificially.
Rāmeśvara: Yes. They control the amount of money, interest on loans. It’s all standardized from what they call the Federal Reserve system. This was introduced during the Depression by the bankers.
Prabhupāda: Whatever they do, when you receive money in the paper it has no value. Bad money. It is bad money. It is not good money.
Rāmeśvara: Actually, most purchasing in America is done on credit now. Even a step beyond paper money is credit—no money, buying on no money; loans.
Prabhupāda: That is in India also.
Rāmeśvara: We don’t find these things in Vedic culture too much. Now one thing is…
Prabhupāda: There was never paper money.
Hari-śauri: No. They used to…
Prabhupāda: That barter system: “You have got rice; I have got something else. So I give you something; you give me something.”
Hari-śauri: But isn’t inflation still possible even with coins? Even if you have gold coins, isn’t inflation still possible?
Prabhupāda: No, gold is acceptable by everyone.
Rāmeśvara: The main point is the barter system.
Hari-śauri: Yes, well its value is recognized by what it can…, by its purchasing power.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: So you can alter… Say, you like have one gold coin. You can alter what it…
Prabhupāda: No. If you introduce real metal coin, then there will be no inflation.
Hari-śauri: There’s only a certain amount of metal.
Prabhupāda: That’s all right. The exchange… The more demand, more price. So suppose here is a spectacle. I am demanding ten rupees. So both of you are customer, and you are asking for this spectacle. Then I am increasing my price. So if you can pay me by printing paper, you’ll accept any price. That means artificially price is increased. Is it not?
Rāmeśvara: Yes.
Hari-śauri: So the idea is that with coins the man who has the goods, he can’t…
Prabhupāda: Therefore… Suppose he has got ten coins, you have got ten coins; I am wanting fifteen coins. So there will be no competition. I have to accept either from you or you, ten coins.
Hari-śauri: Right. Because there’s only that much money.
Prabhupāda: But if I increase price and if you print… If you have got power to print, “All right. Take fifteen coins, er, fifteen rupees.” But you print and pay me. But if the gold, the coin, is there, you cannot increase on that.
Hari-śauri: He can’t increase the price of the product, and the man who got…, ‘cause there’s only a certain amount of money there.
Prabhupāda: But I can increase the price, provided you pay me. But by printing, it is easier. But if you have to collect coins, that will be difficult, so there will be no artificial increase of…
Hari-śauri: Yes. Coins is a check…
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: …on charging too much.
Prabhupāda: That is wanted. And these rascals, they are artificially printing paper as money. And I am a rascal; I’m demanding more because I have got customer.
Rāmeśvara: The difference between Vedic culture and…, the Kṛṣṇa conscious culture and the modern culture is very, very dramatic, very big difference. So the transforming of society…
Prabhupāda: And besides that, if we concentrate in farm project there will be no need of exchange, because I’ll be satisfied with my products, that’s all. There is no need of exchange. Whatever I need, I get in my farm.
Rāmeśvara: Weaving, cloth.
Prabhupāda: Everything you get. So I haven’t got to go outside for exchange. If you are satisfied in your farm, I am satisfied, then where is question of exchange? There is no need of artificial… So this banking, “fanking,” everything will collapse automatically. There is no money, who is going to keep money in the bank?"
January 21, 1977, Bhubaneswar


Italy Scandal Update / Former Lokanath Follower 10 11 25


More PADA and friends music.



Namananda and the sudden violence (ENGLISH TRANSLATION BELOW)

Former Hare Krishna temple of Padova and Villa Vrindavana: serious allegations against Bhakta Claudio and responsibility of Matsyavatara Prabhu and Madhusevita Prabhu.

Child sexual violence

Namananda Das is the son of Namahatta Das, one of the greatest book distributors at the time of criminal William Ehrlichman, aka Bhagavan Das. About thirty years ago, little Namananda was sexually abused by Bhakta Claudio, his teacher at the then Hare Krishna temple in Padua. The head of the temple was notorious conman Orlando Cecchini alias Dayanidhi Vanacari. Whoever abuses the weak betrays every human and spiritual principle.

PADA: Dayanidhi wrote to tell me I am making serious offenses to BV Puri Maharaja, who was promoting Radhanath swami at his matha. I simply pointed out that we cannot glorify the second in command to Kirtanananda, and a person evidently involved in the departure of Sulochana and so many other deviations, as a spiritual authority. And that should not require my instruction, they should already know that. In fact, BV Puri and others should be lecturing to neophytes like me not to glorify these false GBC acharyas. I should not have to lecture them. But Dayanidhi appears to be still recognized in ISKCON, despite switching camps to BV Puri? 

Transfer

Following the abuse case, Namananda's family was forced to move to Villa Vrindavana, under the presiding of Claudio Rocchi, alias Krishna Caitanya das. Initially they lived in a motorhome, then they managed to buy a house in Villa Bonazza.

Adoption and hypocrisy of Matsyavatara

After the abuse and the death of his parents, Namananda was adopted by Marco Ferrini aka Matsyavatara Prabhu, ironically called “the humble one”. Today Namananda works as a psychologist in a drug addiction recovery community in Tuscany. Genuine compassion is measured by facts, not titles.

Exposure and insufficient consequences

Last year, Namananda found the courage to report Bhakta Claudio to Matsyavatara. Result? Just a ban from Italian Hare Krishna temples. A pitiful decision, which shows how blind those who should defend the weakest are to evil.

Omerty and collusion

Matsyavatara, already known for protecting paedophiles in the past and therefore accomplice, kept everything a secret, refusing to assist Namananda in reporting to the relevant authorities. He didn’t even report Bhagavan Das, masking the scams as “lawful activities”. Already as president of Villa Vrindavana temple, he had spent over 200 million pounds on Bhagavan’s villa marbles and bath, while telling devotees to sell books in the sun and rain. Her false devotion becomes instrument of suffering.

The tragic end of Namahatta

Namananda's father Namahatta Prabhu ended his life in disgrace towards the late 1990s. The wife had already left the body a few years ago. Despite being one of the biggest distributors of Srila Prabhupada books in the world, he spent his last days in a room in Villa Vrindavana, only to be thrown out without decency, terminally ill with AIDS, by the then President Samba Das, instrument of the GBC mobster Massimo Brioli, alias Madhusevita Prabhu. This is the face of falsehood and spiritual betrayal.

Last words loaded with truth

Namahatta's very last words were:

"Those who treated me like this will pay by turning on Matsyavatara and Madhusevita. The holders of the greatest prophet in the world are not capable of loving. Words that touch the heart, shedding light on the corruption of false teachers."

Book ban and spiritual discrimination

In recent years he was officially banned from receiving books, which were only given to him under the counter by a brother of his, because Matsyavatara and his followers did not accept his initiation by B.V. Puri Maharaj. 

PADA: But BV Puri endorsed GBC gurus like Radhanath, Gopal Krishna and others and was considered as a sort of advisor for some of the GBC gurus. The only reason he was later rejected was, he was "re-initiating" ISKCON's people and was then seen as a competitor. Then they turned on him. But he did say Srila Prabhupada had only appointed ritviks, so he was at least partially correct.

True devotion knows no prejudice, but they have stepped on it.

Dedication and method of Namahatta

Many remember Namahatta, also known as Maha-rathi, as a book dealer like no other. His 'dandavat' bows to other devotees were done with unique sincerity, dispelling any anartha.

Direct quotes on Sankirtan

"I do not understand those devotees who are jealous because I distribute so many books, I am not giving this mercy but it is Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu;

"You need to concentrate on the heart and the paramatma when distributing a book of transcendental literature. 

The living teachings condemn every spiritual manipulation.

Conclusion

The story of Namananda and Namahatta is the crude radiography of corruption, hypocrisy and evil in ISKCON Italy. People who are supposed to protect and love turn out to be accomplices of abuse and more abuse. Matsyavatara, Madhusevita Prabhu, Bhagavan Das and their accomplices not only do not know how to love - they destroy lives, cover violence and betray Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mercy. 

Those who have lied and betrayed must be called to their own responsibilities, without mercy, without compromise. Devotion without discernment, in the hands of those seeking power and profit, becomes a weapon of universal suffering.

Villa Vrindavana Iskcon
Hare Krishna Dandavats Dasa
Iskcon Rijeka
Centro Studi Bhaktivedanta
The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust
ISKCON RITVIKS
ISKCON Governing Body Commission (GBC)

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A letter from a disciple of Lokanath Swami (2017)

To understand the situation related to Lokanath Swami case, a part of the personal correspondence between him and his disciple Abhay Charan das from New Zealand is published.

The author of the letter explains that he turned to the Guru due to growing doubts and lack of answers from senior Vaishnavis. He points out that he was not initially going to disclose this correspondence, but he is doing it now — to clarify the facts and counter attempts to silence or downplay the seriousness of what has happened.

Student's letter (June 6, 2017):

Abhay Charan das describes that after receiving the initiation in 1996, his faith has shaken for two reasons:

1. He came to know that in 1995 Lokanath Swami was removed from the GBC initiation but did not inform the disciples.

2. He later became aware of the case of sexual violence against a girl in which Swami confessed. Attempts to obtain a personal explanation were left unanswered.

He notes that, despite having doubts, he has always maintained respect for the Guru and followed his promises, but now openly expresses pain and frustration, hoping for a sincere response.

Lokanath Swami's answer (16 June 2017):

Swami confirmed that in 1995-1996, the GBC instructed him to keep the incident a secret, which he was "religiously performing". He called the incident "a minor incident thirty years ago" and expressed regret that the student found out about it later.

He also commented on Abhay Charan's refusal to publish the Vaishnava Puja offer, stating that he would not want the criticism to be made public.

Offering to Vyasa puja (Abhai Charan das, May 2017):

In his message, the disciple wished that his Guru should always remain an example of a pure, humble and responsible leader who represents Srila Prabhupada and our parampara with dignity.

The comments:

“My frustration is not in Lokanatha Swami as a man, but in the GBC reaction at the time, who protected the violator and left the victim without support. After years of waiting, I left him as a Diksha Guru - one of the hardest decision of my spiritual life. Nevertheless, I wish him spiritual well."

Friday, October 10, 2025

Purujit's BLISS Society update 10 10 25



Yeah there is something very off about this guy. 


Who is Purujit Dasa and his BLISS, and why it is important to talk about it. 

(ENGLISH TRANSLATION BELOW)

Purujit Dasa is the founder of the London-based BLISS movement (Bhaktivedanta Lives in Sound Society), which is advertised as being faithful to the original teachings of Srila Prabhupada. Started in 2008 by Kapindra Swami Maharaj, and yet known for arrogance, authoritarianism and self-proclamation of a sort of Guru status.

BLISS presents itself as a project of “restoration of purity”, but it’s just a facade patina to deceive naive and curious devotees.

Behind this mask, hides an abyss of hypocrisy, falsehood and morally unacceptable behaviours.

Main controversies:

Sacrileague modification of sacred texts:

Purujit has published a “rigged” and "re-edited" and illegitimate version of the Bhagavad-gītā, replacing the 1972 edition that Srila Prabhupada himself approved and authorized. His arguments are ridiculously similar to that of Jayadvaita Swami, another notorious manipulator of lyrics. Purujit, without any official mandate, has self-elevated himself to “editor” and “keeper” of purity, severely offending the intelligence and faith of Hare Krishna. 

His texts, devoid of copyright and legitimacy, destroys the coherence and sanctity of the original teachings, causing irreparable damage.

Fraudulent exploitation.

He collected donations from people believing it was an authorized project, deliberately misleading devotees who then openly denounced this spiritual scam.

Pornography: an indelible and disgusting stain.

Former members of his centre in Spain testified that they caught him several times watching explicit pornographic material, behaving like a predator disguised as a sannyasi. In the face of accusations, Purujit didn't have the courage to face the truth: he fled to Canada, leaving his followers in chaos and despair. His collaborator Makhancora even justified this obscene behaviour, stating cynically that he will continue to follow him “even if Purujit contradicts Prabhupada”. This is the indelible mark of a cult of deceivers without conscience.

Tyrannical authoritarianism.

Purujit demands blind obedience, imposes his authority in a dictatorial manner, intimidating, bullying and shoving away anyone who dares to ask him legitimate questions or disagree.

Project BLISS complete failure

The group in Spain is frankly implicated. Devotees from Mexico, Canada and Europe have abandoned this scam, many isolating as former members. Even the Spain “Tattoo guy” who hosted him quietly disassociated, visibly embarrassed, after being his main attack dog for a long time. He finally realized he was defending a fraud.

Fake saffron garments, no humility, just deception.

Purujit wears sannyasi’s saffron dress, but it’s just a mask to hide his shameful actions: pornography, textual revisionism, self-proclamations by guru. It’s a grotesque and offensive caricature of everything sacred in Vaisnavism.

Dangerous ties

BLISS has repeatedly been associated with HKC Jaipur, known for indirectly supporting criminals, spreading Hitler-glorifying content and not protecting vulnerable children and devotees.

PADA: Yeah, the HKC Jaipur folks told me that our saving children from being beaten and raped means PADA "has no credibility." Everyone else is saying WTF is wrong with these odious clowns, we should allow children to be abused to save the GBC's guru program? No wonder the HKC Jaipur / Mathura Pati are promoting Radhanath's cheer leaders, the same party who killed Sulochana; and Bhavananda's writer Hari Sauri. These folks are CREDIBLE -- where?

Then the HKC joined with Narayan Visvakarma to declare the pedo molesting cult is "the Golden Body of ISKCON." In other words, they started to promote Radhanath's cheer leaders and Bhavananda's writer because they are still defending the molester "Golden Body" of the messiah's project. Then Mathura Pati is hanging out with Purujit, after working with a serial woman abuser like NNV, who was beating women and forcing them to have sex (aka rape). 

These people should not considered to be advanced, or as the authorities in a religious society. But yeah, Purujit is a book changer and none of the sincere readers of PADA agree he is authorized to re-edit the books. 

He trains his people to call me "an old fart" -- but even the karmis don't talk to me that rude way because they do not behave like animals. Purujit is in short, self promoting himself, which would be good -- if he was authorized, but he is not. As for the porno complaint, that means he should not dress in orange, just be honest. There is just a lot of misdirection and cheating going on with this guy, and that means he should not be seen as bona fide.

But I knew something was wrong when he came all the way to Berkeley and he kept putting off meeting me, and then he left. He avoided meeting me -- for a reason.   

Conclusion without appeal:

Purujit Dasa and his followers embody, according to Srīla Prabhupada, a total, dangerous and useless deviation. Labeling the Bhagavad-gītā As It Is 1972 as “useless” or “Māyāvāda-tinged" is a sacrilege that puts oneself above the master. Srila Prabhupāda clearly warned: Whoever contradicts the Guru is a demon, whoever distorts his words is a traitor to spiritual service.

Krishna has already pronounced His irrevocable judgment: a trail of failure, betrayal, division, and total absence of divine blessing. As PADA emphasizes, Purujit represents the umpteenth manifestation of “Deadly Acharya Disease”, the deadly disease of self-proclamation that corrupts and destroys true spiritual guidance.

A true teacher is recognized by transparency, integrity, coherence and humility, not by boastful proclamations, manipulated videos or empty saffron poses.
It is urgent and necessary to defend the authentic mission of Srila Prabhupada. With love, but with the firm determination of those who know the truth.

Thursday, October 9, 2025

PADA Music / ISKCON GBC and Radhanath / Suicidal Ex Kuli Update / Jokernath 10 09 25


PADA's "GOA TRANCE" song. Sorta "Shanti People" version. 


PADA: Yep, we -- and many others -- believe that the GBC's principle -- most advertised -- guru, Radhanath swami, is implicated in the murder of Sulochana, in addition to his covering up multiple other dubious projects going on at New Vrndavana. OK for example Kirtanananda was having oral sex with boys among other deviations, and then we were chased with bat and eventually hunted for assassination for exposing these odious things. 

Sulochana said he believed some of the top funding for New Vrndavana came from drug sales and so on. I met Radhanath personally in early 1986 and he told me he believes Kirtanananda is the best guru in ISKCON. Recently Bir Krishna was saying how wonderful it is that he has the great association with Radhanath and Badrinarayan, ummm yup, the people who opposed PADA all along. 

Badri was in Los Angeles poking jokes at me when I was helping having them sued for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse. He seems to think that the mass child abuse program is some sort of comedy hour joke session. And Bir Krishna is with that team. But very importantly, Radhanath was part of the team cheering on the process of going after / oppressing / suppressing us dissenters, and / or fomenting the mood that was making us targets. And he and the GBC never stopped, they still call us bogus ritviks and all the rest of it, to discredit us -- and maybe make us targets. 

Radhanath wrote to Sulochana's murderer: “Without a goal worth dying for we have nothing worthwhile to live for. Any shallow creature can speak these words. Very few most fortunate souls have the courage and integrity to engrave these words within the heart of hearts and remain faithful in the face of life and death.”

OK faithful to what? You mean -- the worship of a homosexual pedophile guru like Kirtanananda? Sorry, Radhanath was self evidently inciting coming after us, and we were then targets -- for assassination. And after all that, Radhanath is made the chief of the GBC guru program? 

And Umapati and others who went to Tirtha's prison to encourage Tirtha were also made big leaders. It sounds like the GBC rewards people who incite violence towards dissenters, dissenters who are simply complaining about the homosexual and pedophile gurus process and its many odious off shoots -- which is victimizing children. 

What happens now is -- more people are starting to figure out is, the criminals and / or their servants and henchmen seem to always move up the top tier hierarchy as ISKCON leaders. And! The whistleblowers seem to be pushed away. Or in the case of Lokanath's program, his goons tried to sue some devotees running a forum. Bullies. 

The story of the suicidal ex-kuli is another -- of many -- cases in point. The person who visits him and tries to help the victim was formerly a regular ISKCON temple guest. As soon as the guest complained that a known child abuser was visiting the temple and sitting in a big seat and giving lectures, he was booted out and the temple called the police to have him removed legally. 

In other words the abuser stays and the whistleblower has to leave. Radhanath is another example, he stays and whistle blowers and people like for example the Bangalore devotees are not welcome in ISKCON. OK more people are saying this is a corrupt process. But yeah, Rahanath is involved in supporting Kirtanananda and the criminal regime known as New Vrndavana. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com  

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DATE: 8 October 2025

Re: WAS RADHANATH INVOLVED?

Dear Prabhus, The following video is of a talk by Radhanath (LINK: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1862939604607847)

In the talk, Radhanath claims that he did not kill anyone. However, there is a quick message—or question—at the end of the video asking whether Radhanath had a had in the cold-blooded assassination of Shriman Sulochana dasa Prabhu. Some evidence that he was indeed involved is given next, from the well-researched books of Henry Doktorski (Hirishikesh dasa Prabhu. Please circulate this message widely.

Thanks, Your A.I.S.F. Team.

Radhanath’s letter to Tirtha dasa, Sulochan’s murderer

October 1, 1989: On this date in history 34 years ago, Radhanath Swami (in Pune, India) writes an inspiring letter to Sulochan’s murderer—Tirtha in prison—and explains, “Without a goal worth dying for we have nothing worthwhile to live for. Any shallow creature can speak these words. Very few most fortunate souls have the courage and integrity to engrave these words within the heart of hearts and remain faithful in the face of life and death.”

In the same letter, Radhanath glorifies Tirtha’s book, Meditations on the American Gulag, which Tirtha had written in prison, “Your beautiful book is THE MOST POPULAR BOOK amongst your godbrothers and godsisters in India. It is even more sought after than any other book.”

(Killing For Krishna, p. 390)

http://henrydoktorski.com/Killing4Krishna.html

Radhanath allegedly recruited conspirators to kill Sulochan

January 10, 2007: On this date in history 17 years ago, a few weeks after Janmastami, one of the conspirators in the plot to assassinate Sulochan, breaks his self-imposed 20 year silence and announces in a December 2007 letter posted on the Sampradaya Sun that Radhanath Swami (a famous ISKCON guru) recruited Janmastami into the murder conspiracy in 1986, Radhanath Swami announces, “As far as what Janmastami dasa has written on the Internet, every single allegation against me is totally false. I was not involved in any criminal activity.”

(Killing For Krishna, p. 482)

http://www.henrydoktorski.com/Killing4Krishna.html

Devotee claims Radhanath is a government informant

April 19, 2020: On this date in history 5 years ago, Jyotirdhama dasa (Joseph Pollock, Jr.), the New Vrindaban Telephone Man who was a member of the conspiracy to murder Sulochan, meets a man at a rally in Richland, Washington, who claims to be a government agent who had infiltrated New Vrindaban in the 1980s. The man tells Jyotirdhama that Radhanath Swami is, and has been for decades, a government informant.

For more about this topic, see Henry’s book, “Gold, Guns and God,” Vol. 6, p. 254.

http://www.henrydoktorski.com/Gold_Guns_God/Vol6.html


Radhanath Deity, Mumbai

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SUICIDAL EX-KULI UPDATE

Today "Syama" and I hung out for the first time in about a year.  We hung out at his apartment, and I stayed for an hour.  This is a man who was raised in a hard-core cult, and was so traumatized from his childhood that as an adult he became a hard-core addict and alcoholic.  He was on meth for years and years and he did so much of it, and for so long, that if you met him you'd think he was twenty years older than he is, but he's only fifty-four.  

He had something like four strokes in three years, and his physical health is poor.  He walks with a cane and speaks with a noticeable stammer.  He needs a kidney and is on dialysis at home like 8-12 hours a day.  So I try to be a friend to the man, try to encourage him to be optimistic and all this, but it's hard.  I am very careful to not preach religion or politics to him, or to patronize him in any way.  

He stopped using hard drugs and alcohol after his strokes, and now he just smokes the herb, but he's a total stoner, smoking all day.  All he really wants to do at this point in his life is get high, talk about getting high, roll joints, and wait to die.  And it's depressing to me.  I did not smoke with him today, but he was smoking pretty much the whole time I was there.  I want to be a friend to this man, show him some love, but it's not easy since I have to make a conscious effort to not talk down to him at all.  Please pray for Syama, friends.  He told me today that he'll keep taking his meds and all, but otherwise he is just smoking weed and waiting to die.  Damn, that is depressing.  How do I best be a friend to this man?  I invite him to go to church with me but that is about it.  What is your advice, friends?  I am asking for it.

Please pray for Syama, Paul. He is one of the original Dallas gurukulis. Need I say more?

PADA: Very sad situation. Unfortunately, some of these ex-kids are "damaged goods" to the point there is not much fixing that can be done. Some of them here eat meat and take intoxicants and yeah, they suffer from depression. I see some of them sometimes around town and there is not much I can say to them. They just did not get the love, support and upbringing they needed to cope with the world, and now they are sort of invalid and dysfunctional. I don't blame them for their being negative on the Krishna religion or any other religion. They basically think religion is evil, and for them, it has been. I just try to be friendly and let them know someone understands their situation. They sort of need professional help, and it is out of my league. But thanks for trying to help this guy, that is more than most others would do. Some of the kids here told me -- no one knows who we are, where we are, what happened to us, or how what happened to us affects our lives. We are the forgotten generation. I cannot argue with them. ys pd

PADA: In 1988 Lokanath swami said that the temples are "empty ghost towns, skeleton crew." That was exactly the plan, empty out the temples so they could bring in the Hindus and have -- car blessings, weddings, even funerals. My friend at one temple says he knows the Hindus who come there, and he says at least 50% of them eat meat, 25% of them worship Sai Baba or Rama Krishna, and 100% of them really have no idea what Srila Prabhupada was preaching about. And now they are putting demigods images in various temples, having Bhagavat Saptas, Raas Garbhas and all that -- for the Hindus. And moreover, they are placing Hindus on the temple managerial boards, so they actually have legal control of the properties. This was Tamal's plan right at the start, he was getting rid of the Prabhupada disciples wholesale and inviting in the Hindus. It is a business. ys pd


Tuesday, October 7, 2025

New Bangalore Video / PADA Destroying ISKCON? 10 07 25

 


Destroying ISKCON Update

Yes prabhu, the guru poisoners, book changers, women beaters, child beaters, devotee hunters and assassins etc. sabha does not like PADA. I got that already. They said I am a paranoid fool thinking there is a conspiracy afoot, well there is a conspiracy afoot, or actually a number of them going on at the same time. 

Yep. There is a poison conspiracy, a conspiracy to make homosexuals and pedophiles into acharyas, a conspiracy to re-write the books, and so on and so forth. I believe all of these issues are connected at the core, or has been managed by a core cadre -- and their defenders. Some of the ex-children have informed me we are opposing nothing less than a Satanic child sacrifice cult, and I have no valid reason to argue with them. 

None of this disaster could have happened without a lot of coordinated and combined effort -- to suppress information, suppress us, suppress victims etc. 
And we were suppressed, to the peril of the victims, and then all sorts of mayhem and suffering, and bankrupting ISKCON and making it a ghost town, resulted. 

Yes, the Rupa Manjari story is very sad and depressing. Some of the NNV ladies were beaten and forced to have sex (raped), one of them had an abortion, so this is more or less animal consciousness, or less than animal. Yep, and gurukula children were also beaten and forced to have sex, yep -- it is all connected. It is the same exploitive consciousness -- just in different degrees.

For the GBC / Mukunda / HKC Jaipur / Mathura Pati and Prabhupadanugas EU types to make NNV into their hero leader, spokesman and defender of "Golden Body of ISKCON" is why a lot of this women and child abuse went on. The defenders have been over-powering us dissenters, and then the women and children had to suffer. And they suffered -- and horribly. And yep, I could have been killed and it is a miracle I wasn't. 

Instead of helping PADA contain the women and child abuse, the abusers and their cheer leaders came after PADA, and glorified the abusers process as some sort of "Golden Body of ISKCON" spiritual entity. Yes, they will ALL be held accountable for orchestrating these abuses, and suppressing complaints about their abuse program. In sum, they are the people who destroyed ISKCON and not PADA. 

When the women and children are being exploited, abused, if not made into sex slaves, if not being beaten black and blue by vicious abusers, that society must be disintegrated by one means or another. And it should have been cleaned up by the devotees, otherwise ISKCON would need to be disintegrated by the material energy of God. 

But since the devotees did not take action, it is being automatically disintegrated by the material energy aka God's power. Therefore, no, I do not lament the disintegration of ISKCON. It is necessary to have that disintegration, and if we won't do it, God will do it, and He is. 

Anyway yep, the poisoners, women beaters, child beaters, book changers, illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs project, their cheer leaders and all the rest of their hangers on -- flourished -- because we who complained were suppressed. Everyone who suppressed us is co-equal responsible for the mess they co-created. Sorry, they destroyed ISKCON, and they destroyed no small amount of Krishna's women and children Vaishnavas, that is what they did, and not us.

And no, I am not angry. These people were like little kids playing with their dad's loaded guns and machetes. I told them to stop, they wanted to stop me instead, and they got hurt all by themselves. I feel bad that I could not save them.  

ys pd

angel108b@yahoo.com   

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THEY WERE BRAVE BUT ALSO HUMAN (VIDEO)

PADA: Yes, we should give credit to the seniors and disciples of Prabhupada, where credit is due. We also have to give them dis-credit where it is due, when many of the seniors decided to make their predators, homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks and pill popping pals into Krishna's successors, and have much or even most of the ISKCON society turned into an "Aushwitz for kids" hell hole for women and children, and have me kicked out and hunted like a dog. 

In 1979 when I challenged all this, almost all my God brothers attacked and discredited me as "envious of His Divine Grace Srila Jayatirtha Tirthapada" (and the entire homosexual and pedophile messiah's club). 

Me "being envious" of -- what? These guru guys are taking karma by the giant container ship boat loads. And in any case -- false gurus are going to the most obnoxious regions. Why would I be "envious" of the people who have container ships full of bad karma to take into their next life, and who are going to take a low birth on low planet, and who created a system of banning, beating, molesting, suing and killing Vaishnavas? I am not envious of residents of hell, why would I be? 

I don't want to be them. In fact I feel bad for them, honest, because they are my brothers. But when our brothers become criminals, and they want to promote deviants as acharyas, and have people like me hunted and exterminated, we cannot defend what they are doing anymore, or we are implicated in their nefarious actions. Yep. They were the senior men, and many -- even some senior and elders to me (like Jayapataka / Brahmananda / Gargamuni / Jayatirtha / Subal / Rupanuga / Kirtanananda etc.) -- means -- these seniors should have been the tip of the spear taking down the homosexual and pedophile messiah's club, not me and Sulochana. 

This is the problem I still have with guys like Markandeya Hawaii, he still says seniors like Gaura Govinda maharaja were doing the right thing compromising with -- and promoting -- the homosexual and pedophile acharya's program. No, he was not doing the right thing. He was causing havoc and no small amount of child abuse, by supporting that regime. And now he and all the others who supported will be held accountable. 

Srila Prabhupada told a devotee, you have done some service, and you have done some dis-service, so now you are at zero, you'll have to start all over again to do positive service to get back some credits. That means we can un-do our service, and go backwards, and become worse than where we started. 

So yeah we must give credit where it is due, and yet we have to call a spade a spade when evil things happen in a so-called spiritual society. Srila Prabhupada said the Gaudiya Matha fell down into a low class mess, and we should just admit that same thing, or worse, has happened to our society. 

ys pd  

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