Sunday, February 8, 2026

Psychological Profile of Editor Defenders of the Bhagavad Gita Revision 02 08 26




PADA: Notice that all of these people are leaders in the "enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexuals, pedophiles and deviants as messiahs for children program." A program which bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas. AKA the Mayapur "Auschwitz for kids" project. 

So now we also find out they are re-writing the Vedas to prop up their pooja for illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's club. Is anyone surprised? A victim of their program wrote to tell PADA, "for their making a program that is starving, beating and raping Vaishnava children, they will all be taking birth as bugs living in a dogs anus." Well yup, many people believe that is the case. 

I dunno, but I do know their future is very dark because their present is very dark already. How many people think the leaders of an Auschwitz for kids program are going to have a happy future? And on top of all that, they are changing all the books, which is another attack on the Vaishnava process. 

But hey, at least more people are waking up to what has been going on here. And history will record these people as the enemies of Vaishnava-ism, and they are already being recorded as such now. In other words, on top of their banning, beating, molesting, suing and killing Vaishnavas odious track record, we have to add -- re-writing the Vedas with conditioned soul speculation. But yeah, Jayadvaita says their messiahs are falling into illicit sex with men, women and maybe children, and that is why he is the hero writer of this group. Birds of a feather. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com 

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Psychological Profile of the Editors and Defenders of the Bhagavad Gita Revision.

The following observations are drawn exclusively from the arguments of Jayadvaita Swami and others throughout the 19 videos in this series. They are not clinical diagnoses but behavioral patterns that any attentive reader can verify.

1. Grandiosity Disguised as Humility

In Video 12, when Kesava Bharati Dasa (convicted by ISKCON itself as a child abuser) is asked which edition is closer to Prabhupada's intention, his answer is: he personally "hears Prabhupada's intention more clearly" in his own revision, and it "feels empowered and enlivened." This is not an editorial argument. It is a claim to privileged spiritual perception. 

He is saying, in effect, that he can perceive what Prabhupada truly meant better than Prabhupada's own published text communicates it. 

In Video 9, Gopiparanadhana Dasa goes further: "the second edition is more original than the first." The person who revised the book declares his revision more authentic than the author's own edition. This is grandiosity presented as devotional service.

2. Contempt for the Predecessor

The entire revision project is built on an unstated premise: that Hayagriva, Prabhupada's original editor, did a poor job. In Video 9, Gopiparanadhana Dasa describes Hayagriva as someone who "crossed out what he couldn't decipher." In Video 17, Hari Sauri Dasa explains the early editorial process as inadequate, with Prabhupada having to leave his work "in the hands of his disciples" because "he didn't have time" to review it. In Video 19, Jayadvaita Swami's contempt becomes explicit: "The Blessed Lord" is attributed directly to Hayagriva by name, as if identifying the source were sufficient to delegitimize the phrase. The implication is consistent: the original editorial work was deficient, and only the current editor can correct it. 

What is never acknowledged is that Prabhupada used the product of Hayagriva's work for five years without demanding a revision. Contempt for the predecessor is the emotional engine driving the project. For most of the series it remains implicit, but in Jayadvaita's Video 19 it surfaces openly: Hayagriva is named, blamed, and overruled.

3. Inversion of Accountability

A consistent pattern throughout the videos is the inversion of who must justify what. In Video 7, the editor offers to "change it back if evidence arises," as if the author-approved original text must now prove its validity against the revision. In Video 4, those who object to the changes are characterized as conspiracy theorists. In Video 14, defenders of the original text are called "fanatics." 

The person who altered 77% of a deceased author's book positions himself as the reasonable moderate, while those who say "don't change the author's published work" are the extremists. This inversion of accountability is psychologically revealing: it is the posture of someone who knows his position is difficult to defend and therefore must preemptively discredit those who question it.

4. Authority Without Limits

In Video 11, his argument is explicit: "editors by definition revise." Being appointed editor, in his view, constitutes blanket authorization for unlimited revision in perpetuity, even after the author's death. In Video 5, the argument extends further: since Prabhupada "never told them to stop editing," the editorial mandate is eternal. In Video 15, Prabhupada's acceptance of minor typographical corrections to the First Canto is extrapolated as authorization to revise 541 verses of the Bhagavad-gita. 

The pattern is one of progressive expansion: a narrow, specific authorization is stretched to cover unlimited scope. This is the behavior of someone who has assumed authority and then seeks justification retroactively, not of someone who received a clear mandate and is executing it.

5. Inability to Distinguish Himself from the Author

In Video 12, the editor states that his revision "feels empowered." In Video 9, he declares it "more original than the first." In Video 8, meaning-altering changes are defended as "restoration of Prabhupada's original intention." Throughout the entire series, there is no moment of doubt, no acknowledgment that the editor's perception of Prabhupada's intention might differ from Prabhupada's actual intention. Video 19 provides the most revealing formulation: "I felt justified in restoring it." Not "the evidence required it." Not "the manuscript demanded it." 

He felt justified. The basis for changing a sacred text is a personal feeling. The boundary between what the editor believes Prabhupada meant and what Prabhupada actually published has collapsed. This is psychological fusion: the editor has identified so completely with his role that he can no longer distinguish his own editorial preferences from the author's voice. When he changes a verse, he genuinely believes he is restoring Prabhupada. The possibility that he is substituting himself for Prabhupada does not seem to occur to him.

6. Minimization as a Defense Mechanism

In Video 1, the 5,000 changes are dismissed as "not impressive" because they include punctuation. In Video 4, Vaisesika Dasa says the change in BG 4.34 is "not particularly" problematic. In Video 7, the change from Visnu form/Visnu platform is "either way." Each individual change is presented as trivial when examined in isolation. But 541 verses is not trivial. The systematic minimization of individual changes serves to prevent the listener from perceiving the cumulative effect. This is a well-documented psychological defense mechanism: if each brick is insignificant, the wall they form somehow doesn't exist.

7. Deflection Through Emotional Framing

When faced with substantive criticism, the response throughout these videos is consistently emotional rather than evidentiary. In Video 8, the rhetorical question is "how dare you" -- directed not at the editor for changing the text, but at critics for objecting. In Video 14, critics are characterized as people who "shoot off in some direction" and are "totally unreasonable." In Video 5, engaging with textual evidence is dismissed as "nitpicking." The pattern is to deflect discussion from evidence (what was changed, why, and whether it matches the manuscript) toward emotion (loyalty, faith, empowerment, fanaticism). This is the behavior of someone who cannot win the evidentiary argument and therefore refuses to have it.

8. Vagueness Where Precision Is Needed

In Video 16, when asked about the authority for the revision, the answer is remarkably imprecise: "I could see a document where Srila Prabhupada said..." but what the document says is never specified. He describes having sent "some paper or documentation" and hedges: "I don't want to say manuscript." He recalls "a paper or letter or... whatever it was." For someone defending the most significant editorial intervention in the history of his tradition, the inability or unwillingness to cite specific documents with precision is revealing. Either the authorizing evidence does not exist in the form claimed, or the editor has not felt the need to verify it carefully, because the decision was made on other grounds and the documentation is invoked as post-hoc justification.

9. The Psychology of the Fait Accompli

Perhaps the most important observation is structural rather than specific to any individual video. The revision was completed and published decades ago. Every argument in this series is a defense of a fait accompli, not a proposal for future action. This fundamentally shapes the psychology: the editor is not asking permission. He is explaining why what he already did was right. 

This creates a psychological imperative to justify at all costs, because admitting that the revision was unauthorized or unfaithful would require confronting decades of invested identity. The arguments do not need to be logically rigorous because their function is not to persuade through logic. Their function is to provide sufficient rhetorical cover for the editor and his followers to continue believing in the legitimacy of what has already been done.

10. Theological Imprecision Disguised as Academic Rigor

In Video 19, Jayadvaita criticizes Gita Press for using impersonal terms like "Paramatma" and "Parabrahma" and places "Blessed Lord" in the same category. This conflation is theologically illiterate. "Blessed Lord" is a devotional and personal term -- it conveys adoration, sovereignty, and grace. It is the opposite of the impersonal "Parabrahma." The inability or unwillingness to distinguish between a reverential personal address and an impersonal philosophical abstraction suggests that the editor's objection to "Blessed Lord" is not theological at all. It is territorial: Hayagriva chose the phrase, therefore it must go. The theological argument is constructed afterward to rationalize what is fundamentally an act of displacement.

Summary

What emerges from these 19 videos is not the portrait of careful scholars defending their work with evidence. It is the portrait of people who made a consequential decision decades ago, identified their entire spiritual identity with that decision, and now experience any challenge to the revision as a challenge to their own legitimacy. The arguments are not built from evidence toward a conclusion. They begin with the conclusion -- that the revision was correct -- and work backward to find justifications. 

This explains why the arguments are inconsistent (the original is both deficient enough to require a complete overhaul and sacred enough to invoke Prabhupada's authority), why critics are dismissed rather than engaged, and why subjective impressions of "empowerment" are offered as evidence alongside procedural claims about institutional authority. These are not the arguments of someone seeking truth. They are the arguments of someone defending a position that has become inseparable from their sense of self.

Videos Cited (with link to the exact moment)

Video 1 — "Why 5,000 changes?"
• "The number doesn't impress me" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBQoYoridyU&t=79

Video 4 — "Do you have a problem with the change in BG 4.34?"
• "Not particularly... unless one thinks there's a conspiracy" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-dt0Pv8eR4&t=18

Video 5 — "Is it appropriate to edit Prabhupada's books after his departure?"
• "I'm convinced that certain disciples are empowered to edit his books" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kupWFJuyvQ&t=172

• "He never told them to stop editing" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kupWFJuyvQ&t=184

• "Better than nitpicking about what's original" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kupWFJuyvQ&t=302

Video 7 — "Why did you change 'Visnu form' to 'Visnu platform'?"

• "It's not sacred, it's not that serious" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m76vZd1rGA&t=43

• "What kind of principle is that?" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m76vZd1rGA&t=94

Video 8 — "Why do some changes seriously alter the meaning?"

• "Is that terrible? Is it sinful?" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lp8t5AG1vA&t=42

• "How dare you?" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lp8t5AG1vA&t=48

Video 9 — "Why edit a book already edited and approved?"

• Hayagriva "simply crossed it out with a black marker" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Px-W57nt4Y&t=53

• "The original is what comes from Prabhupada's mouth, not what was published" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Px-W57nt4Y&t=123

• "The second edition is more original than the first" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Px-W57nt4Y&t=143

Video 11 — "Prabhupada opposed changes. Why change?"

• "For practically ten years my prescribed duty was to change" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX2X_o3OzGg&t=41

• "Editors are people who by definition revise" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX2X_o3OzGg&t=62

• "Somehow Prabhupada trusted me" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX2X_o3OzGg&t=95

Video 12 — "Which edition do you consider closer to Prabhupada's intention?"

• "What I see is Prabhupada's intention more clearly" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff9PZ4cA7oM&t=17

• "I hear his intention and that gives me faith... it's empowered" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff9PZ4cA7oM&t=37

• "The second edition is empowered" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff9PZ4cA7oM&t=51

Video 13 — "Why did you add to the purport of BG 4.34?"

• "It's not my fault, that's what Prabhupada said" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8x2qtx_6t4&t=19

• "It's common sense" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8x2qtx_6t4&t=44

Video 14 — "Shouldn't we simply be faithful and loyal to Prabhupada?"

• "Devotees become fanatics about preserving errors" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlPqHhmitTo&t=34

• "They make a big mistake themselves" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlPqHhmitTo&t=76

• "They shoot off in some direction... it's totally unreasonable" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlPqHhmitTo&t=92

Video 15 — "Does the BBT have authority for posthumous corrections?"

• "The authority comes from Prabhupada's desire that his books be free of errors" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3AAi9LxjJQ&t=17

• "Prabhupada accepted them without seeing them" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3AAi9LxjJQ&t=62

• "The idea that the books were frozen is fallacious" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3AAi9LxjJQ&t=108

Video 16 — "By what authority did Jayadvaita Swami re-edit the Gita?"

• "I could see a document where Srila Prabhupada said..." — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrqpR_tF6ns&t=18

• "Whatever it was, a paper or letter or... I don't want to say manuscript" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrqpR_tF6ns&t=54

Video 17 — "Did Prabhupada approve all the editing?"

• "Even the best writers need a good editor, Srila Prabhupada included" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQiA_70ny5I&t=25

• "He didn't look at it again... he didn't have time" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQiA_70ny5I&t=70

• "He knew there were going to be some mistakes" — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQiA_70ny5I&t=98

Video 19 — "Why did you change 'The Blessed Lord said'?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpV54tfQ_O8

Spanish version: 

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TWD: While every issue of corruption in our movement is important and forms part of a greater tapestry regarding the overall hijacking of the mission, the book change issue is arguably more important than any other. Sure, they murdered Srila Prabhupada's vapu form through homicidal poisoning, but the book changes are even worse, because the agents of Kali are now killing the Acharya's vani form, through which he continues to live and to deliver us from ignorance. The ritualistic child abuse syndicate within ISKCON is symptomatic of the demonic nature of those who hijacked the movement. Part of that is to traumatise the younger generation and drive them away. The guru issue is also important, as well several murders of outspoken devotees over the years, and many other issues as well.
But the book issue trumps all other issues, because once the original books are gone, they are gone. And Mr. Jay Israel of the BBT(I) has made it clear that they intend for that to happen. So we must save the original editions of Srila Prabhupada's books while we still can. It's nice that devotees are starting to realise that Srila Prabhupada is our primary link and is the initiating diksha guru of the society he founded, but even that transmission of diksha which takes place regardless of whether or not the ceremony has been performed, depends on maintaining the authenticity of his recorded vani, which the demons are trying to erase.

Saturday, February 7, 2026

More 1975 Troubles / Kirtan Video / Srila Saraswati / ISKCON Constitution 02 17 26






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Drums back in stock! 


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ISKCON CONSTITUTION

Anon Dasa: UNDER ISKCON'S NEW CONSTITUTIONAL DOCUMENT, I AM NOT CONSIDERED TO BE ABLE TO BE A MEMBER OF ISKCON IN GOOD STANDING...

So I downloaded the GBC's (Gangster Boys Club) new ISKCON constitution in PDF format. The first thing I did was ctrl + F and searched for the word "ritvik" to see what I already knew would come up - which is as follows:

A.6. RITVIKISM: REJECTED AND BANNED

A.6.1. The theory that Śrīla Prabhupāda wished to continue directly initiating disciples after his departure through “ritviks ” – celebrants performing the ceremony of initiation on his behalf – is a philosophical deviation that goes against the paramparā principle established by Lord Krishna and upheld by all our ācāryas. Ritvikism is never mentioned in śāstra, has never been practiced by any bonafide sampradāya, and Śrīla Prabhupāda never presented or endorsed it.

A.6.2. The ritvikism falsehood shall be permanently shunned in ISKCON as unfounded and misleading. It is utterly erroneous to espouse it, deluding and misguiding to teach it, and blasphemous to attribute it to Śrīla Prabhupāda.

A.6.3. The ritvikism invention shall be banned in ISKCON; it shall not be tolerated or accommodated in any way, shape, or form. No one who espouses, teaches, or practices ritvikism can be an ISKCON member in good standing.

PADA: That is quite a relief. We were worried the GBC would allow us into ISKCON. We should not be associated with the odious karma of the GBC's worship of illicit sex with men, women and children guru program. We should also not eat anything offered to that sampradaya. We do not want anyone to be a supportive part of their program, so let our people be out of theirs, and be independent. 

This is really an advertisement for everyone to leave that corrupt program. And we are. Yep, there is no "parampara from Krishna" that worships ACTUAL pure devotees, there is only a parampara that contains -- homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks, drug addicts, porno addicts, and people who are falling down left, right and center. And just before they leave and bloop, they "2/3 show of hands" vote in more "parampara members." Told ya!  

ys pd

angel108b@yahoo.com   

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#390

DATE: 4 February 2025

Re: ISKCON’S SHUDRA GBCs

Dear Friends and Members, Dandavats to all genuine followers of Shrila Prabhupada. Take a look around today’s ISKCON and you’ll see rampant shudra values in every corner of the brick-and-mortar church that ISKCON has morphed into. And that’s because the leadership has deteriorated into shudra quality. Shudra values are seen everywhere. Prabhupada warned:

“Therefore we have created these GBC. So they should be very responsible men. Otherwise, they will be punished. They will be punished to become a shudra.
Although Yamaraja is a GBC, but he made a little mistake. He was punished to become a shudra. So those who are GBC’s, they should be very, very careful to administer the business of ISKCON. Otherwise they will be punished. As the post is very great, similarly, the punishment is also very great.” (Srila Prabhupada Lecture, June 4th, 1974)

And now the inevitable has happened because the GBC shudras did not listen. The fingerprints of ISKCON’s shudra GBCs are everywhere. Just see…

-ISKCON Swamis crowd surfing and doing shudra dances before the Deities just to please the crowds of their blind, admiring shudra fans.

-ISKCON Swamis living luxuriously like “extravagant shudras” on money provided by the struggling working class “disciples” that they exploit.

-Several ISKCON Swamis and GBCs live like millionaire playboys with their female attendants and masseuses.

-Bogus news propaganda is rampant on ISKCON’s shudra disinformation network ISKCON News.

-Affection for shudra class Mayavadi swamis is seen in ISKCON shameful publication The Journey Home and other books written by ISKCON shudra “leaders.”

-The shudra-quality “acharya” of The Journey Home has been named by witnesses as the one who gave the order for murdering Sulochan.

-Physical gymnastic yoga exercises are taught to shudras for money at many 
ISKCON centers.

-ISKCON preachers have turned into paid shudra “life coaches.”

-ISKCON shudra Swami Radhanath has started a trend of shudra worship by installing a deity of himself in Prabhupada’s temple.

- Some ISKCON shudra “acharyas” and “gurus” have been exposed as dangerous predators and sometimes even pedophiles in ISKCON, or they supported a system that created these problems.

-Smart-ass shudra know-it-alls in the BBT have radically changed Prabhupada’s books because they have listed Prabhupada as their “worker for hire.”

-The shudra GBC and shudra Swamis accept grand luxurious feasts while Gurukula children have been starved.

-Bhaktivedanta degrees handed out by unqualified shudras to other shudras at Mayapur.

-Cheap sahajiyaism, shudra imitation devotion, is rampant as seen in the books of GBC Shivaram, who runs ISKCON News, the shudra propaganda service.

-”Devotee care” is just a sham to cover up all the abuse that has been meted out by shudra leaders to honest devotees who have spoken up over the years.

-The greatest influence ISKCON is having nowadays is seen in films that expose ISKCON’s shudra corrupt practices. Movies like MONKEY ON A STICK, Peacock’s TV special KRISHNAS:GURUS, KARMA, MURDER, and Wonderly’s online expose are showing the public what ISKCON today is made of. 

Rather than honoring the pioneering spiritual activities of the Founder- Acharya Shrila Prabhupada, ISKCON’s shudra leaders have sent the Hare Krishna Movement into mission drift.

-No one in the media listens to ISKCON’s GBC shudra apologist Anuttama das.

-The video about shudra GBC Emeritus Giriraja Swami’s lurid and vulgar sexual affair with a much younger disciple has been widely viewed on Hare Krishna Podcast.

-When huge sums of money “go missing” in ISKCON, the shudra GBC simply scrambles to cover up the scandal.

-ISKCON attends interfaith ceremonies with other shudra religious groups to show agreement with “other religions.”

-ISKCON’s official policy is that it is a Hindu organization in many areas, simply to attract the wealth of Indian shudra professionals.

-Blooped gurus living like kings in devotee communities like Harikesh, supposedly with money handed over by fellow shudra GBCs and swamis.

-It is evident that there is a shudra cabal, an inner circle in ISKCON, that has directed the movement back into the realm of the lower classes. Prabhupada predicts the future GBC destruction of ISKCON

“What will happen when I am not here, shall everything be spoiled by GBC? So for the time being, let the GBC activities be suspended until I thoroughly revise the whole procedure.” (Srila Prabhupada Letter, April 11th, 1972)

“I made the GBC to give me relief, but if you do like this, then where is the relief. It is anxiety for me. This is the difficulty, that as soon as one gets power, he becomes whimsical and spoils everything.” (Srila Prabhupada Letter, September 12th, 1974 )

“I am training some of my experienced disciples how to manage after my departure. So if instead of taking the training, if in my lifetime you people say I am the Lord of all I survey, that is dangerous conspiracy.” (Srila Prabhupada Letter, October 8th, 1974)

Prabhus, don’t follow shudras. Prabhupada wanted his ISKCON to be a movement of Vaishnava brahmanas, so we must strive for that standard rather than compromising with the trade-offs of a milquetoast sell-out.

The goal is great, so do it.

Yours always in the service of the Vaishnavas,

Your A.I.S.F. Team

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"IT IS A FACT HOWEVER THAT THE GREAT SINISTER MOVEMENT IS WITHIN OUR SOCIETY" ~ Srila Prabhupada
 
(Excerpt from Srila Prabhupada's letter to Hansadutta, 2nd September 1970)

"Regarding the poisonous effect in our Society, it is a fact and I know where from this poison tree has sprung up and how it affected practically the whole Society in a very dangerous form. But it does not matter. Prahlada Maharaj was administered poison, but it did not act. Similarly Lord Krsna and the Pandavas were administered poison and it did not act. I think in the same parampara system that the poison administered to our Society will not act if some of our students are as good as Prahlad Maharaj. I have therefore given the administrative power to the Governing Body Commission.

"I have tried to give you all Krsna Consciousness, now it is your duty to develop it. If you remain strong on the spiritual platform then your progress will not be checked or blocked. I do not know what was resolved in New Vrndavana although Sriman Rupanuga Prabhu has informed others that he has sent a tape in this connection. I am still in darkness about the proceedings in New Vrndavana, but I have heard that Brahmananda is preaching about me that I am Krsna, that I am Supersoul, that I have withdrawn my mercy from the disciples, that I have left the Society and so on. 

"I do not know how far they are correct, but I have written him a letter that he may not do something which may harm the interest of the Society. You are also one of the members of the GBC, so you can think over very deeply how to save the situation. It is a fact however that the great sinister movement is within our Society. I have not heard anything from Krsna das or Shyamsundar, so all of you may try to save the Society from this dangerous position.

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BOMBING THE DOGS

PADA: Wow pilgrims, Russia has discovered another national security issue that has to be taken down before it attacks Russia! It is the DANGEROUS animals! There are many reports of Russia bombing animal farms, killing probably hundreds of thousands, if not millions -- of cows, chickens, sheep and other farm animals. 

I have seen photos of cow barns that were obliterated, obviously on purpose -- to kill the cows. And there were hundreds of cows laying around, this was intentional. Russia obviously believes cows, dangerously chewing their cud in a field, are a security threat to their nation! Kill them before they kill us! 

Well now Russia has found yet another dangerous national security problem, it is not only old granny ladies who are sewing sweaters for their kittens in hi-rise buildings, now the big enemy is -- animal shelters! 

We must kill these dogs in the shelter before they kill off Russia's army and invade Moscow! These Russian guys are so paranoid, they think an animal shelter is a danger to their national security. OK they probably know animals are not really a threat, they just take great delight in killing anything that moves. ys pd        




Thursday, February 5, 2026

More Patna Discussion / ISKCON and Women / Aryan Women 02 15 26


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PADA: This is my recent AI art of Radha and Krishna, made on the Gemini Google platform. I am pretty happy with it, and I went in and touched up some areas on I-pad Procreate. Jayate. ys pd

1) O Gopinatha, Lord of the gopis, please hear my request. I am a wicked materialist, always addicted to worldly desires, and no good qualities do I possess.

2) O Gopinatha, You are my only hope, and therefore I have taken shelter at Your lotus feet. I am now Your eternal servant.

3) O Gopinatha, how will You purify me? I do not know what devotion is, and my materialistic mind is absorbed in fruitive work. I have fallen into this dark and perilous worldly existence.

4) O Gopinatha, everything here is Your illusory energy. I have no strength or transcendental knowledge, and this body of mine is not independent and free from the control of material nature.

5) O Gopinatha, this sinner, who is weeping and weeping, begs for an eternal place at Your divine feet. Please give him Your mercy.

6) O Gopinatha, You are able to do anything, and therefore You have the power to deliver all sinners. Who is there that is more of a sinner than myself?

7) O Gopinatha, You are the ocean of mercy. Having come into this phenomenal world, You expand Your divine pastimes for the sake of the fallen souls.

8) O Gopinatha, I am so sinful that although all the demons attained Your lotus feet, Bhaktivinoda has remained in worldly existence.

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Krishna Sanctuary

Seems to be a nice project. 

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ISKCON and WOMEN

PADA: Henry Doktosrski sent me an article on how women in general were viewed very negatively at New Vrndavana. And as a result many women were exploited and abused. He blames Srila Prabhupada for creating this environment. Except, my view is that New Vrndavana folks were getting the "Kirtanananda's filtered" view of women, and Krishna consciousness, and Kirtanananda was cherry picking certain negative quotes, while avoiding positive quotes, to suppress women -- and to suppress those quotes. 

And his program suppressed those of us citing these positive quotes, and the quotes exposing Kirtanananda, to the point their empire would have us assassinated for publishing and citing these quotes -- that opposed their views, being afraid of being exposed. 

For example when people at New Vrndavana said "Srila Prabhupada says Kirtanananda is a pure devotee." OK he might have said that once. Yet he also said: KS is a crazy man -- who needs to go back to Bellvue; KS indulges in a strange form of sense gratification (homosexuality); KS stole my Gita manuscript -- and so forth. 

Srila Prabhupada also said Jayatirtha is my tirtha, and his followers slammed that in my face all day long. But he was falling down. Just because Srila Prabhupada makes a few encouraging statements about someone, that is not an absolute endorsement.  

When someone who is elderly is encouraging a kindergarten child, they may say things that are not meant to be absolute. When we tell a toddler -- you are doing a great job bringing me my shoe, that does not mean the child knows how to fetch the other shoe and etc. It is encouraging, but not making an absolute statement of fact.   

I had a gay friend in San Francisco who told me, unfortunately there are homosexuals who see women negatively, as competition, and they treat women rudely and badly. They want to keep women in a lower status, to cut down their competitors, so the homosexual program is enhanced. In short they are ENVIOUS of women, or even worse -- they hate women.

And that is evidently why Kirtanananda called his istagosthi meetings with women "fish night," and Devamrta said women are like toilets, and the list of negative comments from these (homosexual ilk) leader guys from New Vrndavana are endless really. OK these guys were many times homosexuals -- who did not like women -- and they created an anti-women atmosphere.

I personally never understood that we should exploit, suppress or oppress women from the teachings of Krishna. Rather, women are supposed to be my spiritual "soul sisters" --  aka eternal spirit souls -- fully equal to myself -- who are now in a female shaped, temporary material covering or body. And it is our duty to see them as spiritual soul equals, parts and parcels of God, and not as our inferiors. 

One thing many people probably do not know is that most of the help I got at the start of PADA was from -- women -- who were acting as my spies and agents to get my news stories for PADA. And a woman was the first person I helped to sue ISKCON for child abuse, in 1986. Women were somewhat at the forefront of helping me challenging the homosexual and pedophile messiah's program, and subsequently today mostly women are on the ISKCON Vedic Inquiry child welfare forum etc. now. 

OK women did a lot to challenge the GBC, and they still are, more than many or most men. Srila Prabhupada also told us that women are the backbone of religion in India, since 90% of the people at our Pandal festivals were -- women. He encouraged those ladies, and therefore wanted us to do the same. 

In sum, the lady I helped with the 1986 lawsuit was more brave than all the ISKCON men put together, because it was somewhat dangerous to challenge the GBC regime at that time. Many of the men simply did not help, or worse, said I was making offenses to the seniors etc. So my view was always that women can be a good source of inspiration and help, and they have been. 

Instead of suppressing women, I was always encouraging them, and that was my understanding of the Krishna philosophy, women should be treated with maturity and respect. Or as Srila Prabhupada says, treat all women as mother. 

New Vrndavana was a sort of really bad place for women, because these leaders -- who are envious of women -- began to artificially make women an inferior class of person -- and then there was a lot of sexual and physical abuse of women as a result. But I never liked these leaders, nor did I like the way women were being made into lesser class beings by some of these leaders, when the women should be seen as equals and moreover respected as "living temples of Vishnu" and Krishna's parts and parcels etc. 

But I am a guy who is kind to my neighborhood squirrels and birds, and I feed them every day. I have no tolerance for mistreating any living being, it is not the correct idea of the Krishna religion. All living beings should be seen as temples of Vishnu, especially the Vaishnavi ladies who are worshiping Vishnu.   

What Srila Prabhupada also said was, every woman should be protected and hopefully married. And he suspended sannyasa saying the leaders should be grhasthas or married people. He said women should be honored and protected, thus he never authorized exploiting them, never mind mistreating them, beating them, and so forth. Nor did I ever feel that mistreating or exploiting women is what the Krishna society is supposed to be doing.  

In any case all religions have some form of ashram type program to try to keep the men monks or brahmacaris separated from the women. And the women try to avoid the men by living as nuns or brahmacarinis. In Muslim countries the ladies cover their faces and so on. That is because Srila Prabhupada is correct, men mixing with ladies can turn into lusty affairs. That is common in all religions.   

In New Vrndavana, in the name of avoiding lust, practice of austerity and renunciation, some men were having illicit affairs with a number of women. Some women were given coercive divorces and were married off to other men. Some women told me they were never officially married, there was simply a "garland exchange," and not a legal recorded marriage, and thus they were un-officially married and maybe re-married later with no documentation. That gave them no legal footing for child custody, spousal benefits etc. 

Much worse, adult homosexual men were having various forms of sex with men and boys who were still minors. And some of the females there told me they were being married off when they were not yet 18. OK so there was a lot of lusty stuff going on left, right and center, including heterosexual, homosexual and even pedophile lusty affairs, or in sum -- illicit sex with men, women and children. Sorry, this is not a place that is "following Krishna." 

That means Srila Prabhupada is correct -- lust is the main enemy of spiritual practitioners. So if someone thinks New Vrndavana is an example of Srila Prabhupada's teachings, they are severely misguided. Srila Prabhupada says illicit behavior takes a person to hell, and that behavior was rampant at New Vrndavana in all forms. 

When CBS news Jane Wallace visited new Vrndavana, she was mortified to see Kirtanananda sitting on a big seat, covered with the hands of young boys. Worse, some of the big leaders were in the audience there singing "Jaya Bhaktipada." She asked me if this is pedophile heaven, I said yep it is. And she said thank God we met at least one Hare Krishna who knows this is pedophile heaven. OK all these ISKCON men could not see the problem there, but she -- a so called karmi woman -- could see.

She also said many of the ladies there have "children who look different, as if the children came from different fathers." She asked me if the ladies there "are being passed around to various men." And I said -- probably yes. OK so a woman news reporter, who has no knowledge of the Vedas, immediately -- withing a few seconds -- understands that New Vrndavana is a pedophile cult, while the "men" there were all chanting "Jaya Bhaktipada," which alarmed CBS news folks. 

Sorry, these New Vrndavana folks are not following Srila Prabhupada, or even basic common moral religion principles. Worship of homosexuals and pedophiles as messiahs is not done even in the mleccha society. And when we had New Vrndavana sued on the $400,000,000 case, the lawyers said New Vrndavana is the worst place for children abuse in the whole USA ISKCON.   

When Ravindra Swarupa wanted to remove Kirtanananda, 300 families (many Prabhupada original disciples) made a petition to keep KS as the guru there. OK so this was a homosexual and pedophile personality cult, which has nothing to do with Srila Prabhupada. Unfortunately, it fooled a lot of people into thinking it is bona fide. It never was. 

Sulochana said Chakradhari was murdered because he protested at an istagosthi that Kirtanananda was having affairs with boys. I would say many -- if not most -- people there knew something bad was afoot. 

Yeah I would say, a lot of people there must have known about all these illicit, illegal and exploiting things going on there, if they were not participating in the crimes themselves. It is just impossible for me to believe all the banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits, and murders were not known by a lot of people, if not most people. 

In any case, we never believed that Kirtanananda was purely representing Krishna -- ever. I never really liked the guy, and we knew him, Hayagriva, Umapati and others were from the Mott Street boys program, and we suspected they were not solid followers the whole time. Nor did we ever think a Mott Stret boy could be catapulted to being a pure devotee in the space of 10 years, especially when these guys were chastised so badly right out of the gate. 

Anyway, for those who thought the GBC's program was Prabhupada's program, you folks made a huge mistake. He was apparently poisoned by that sabha to get him out of the way. And what happened next was not his desire, order, mission or movement. 

Jane Wallace was able to figure out in two seconds what a lot of these people could not figure out in two decades, and many of them still cannot. This was a not a religious movement, it was "pedophile heaven." She thanked me for being the one of the only Hare Krishnas who knew what was what, because almost all the other devotees defended the program. Kirtanananda was later buried in a samadhi, because a lot of people still don't get it. 

OK they got suckered. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com  

HOW TO VIEW WOMEN (or any living entity):

BG 13.3 I AM THE KNOWER WITHIN ALL BODIES

kṣetra-jñaḿ cāpi māḿ viddhi
sarva-kṣetreṣu bhārata
kṣetra-kṣetrajñayor jñānaḿ
yat taj jñānaḿ mataḿ mama

Translation of Bhagavad Gita 13.3

O scion of Bharata, you should understand that I am also the knower in all bodies, and to understand this body and its knower is called knowledge. That is My opinion.

Commentary by Sri A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada of Gaudiya Sampradaya:

While discussing the subject of the body and the knower of the body, the soul and the Supersoul, we shall find three different topics of study: the Lord, the living entity, and matter. In every field of activities, in every body, there are two souls: the individual soul and the Supersoul. Because the Supersoul is the plenary expansion of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krishna, Krishna says, “I am also the knower, but I am not the individual knower of the body. 

I am the superknower. I am present in every body as the Paramatma, or Supersoul.” One who studies the subject matter of the field of activity and the knower of the field very minutely, in terms of this Bhagavad-gita, can attain to knowledge.

The Lord says, “I am the knower of the field of activities in every individual body.” The individual may be the knower of his own body, but he is not in knowledge of other bodies. The Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is present as the Supersoul in all bodies, knows everything about all bodies. He knows all the different bodies of all the various species of life. A citizen may know everything about his patch of land, but the king knows not only his palace but all the properties possessed by the individual citizens. Similarly, one may be the proprietor of the body individually, but the Supreme Lord is the proprietor of all bodies. The king is the original proprietor of the kingdom, and the citizen is the secondary proprietor. Similarly, the Supreme Lord is the supreme proprietor of all bodies.

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This article, ‘The Vaiṣṇavism of Ancient Āryan Women,’ was first published in Sajjana Toṣaṇī, Volume 2, Issue 9, in 1885. In it, Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura narrates the account of Śaṅkarācārya’s mother, who, as she lay on her deathbed, expressed her longing to attain Vaikuṇṭha.

by Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura

(This article has been compiled from the Śaṅkara Vijaya composed by Sāyanācārya).

Nowadays, who would not feel delighted when the subject of the steadfast devotion of Indian women is discussed? We shall not now speak about the two maidservant daughters Pil and Pilyā described in the Bhaktamāla, nor about other noble women, because the time for that has not yet come for us. The devout lady of whom we shall now inform the learned and respectable readers may be said to be well known even among the mature educated class of men.

Eleven centuries ago, in the village of Kālapi in the land of Kerala, there lived a brāhmaṇa by the name of Śivaguru Śarmā. He was the father of Śaṅkarācārya, the crest-jewel of parivrājakācāryas, and his wife was the mother of that best of ācāryas, Śaṅkara Svāmī. Śaṅkara’s mother gave birth to that world-renowned Śaṅkarācārya on the day of Śukla Ekādaśī in the month of Vaiśākha in the 71st year of the Śaka era.*

niṣe nāgebha bahnyabde vibhave māsi mādhave

śukle tithau daśamyāstu śaṅkarāryodayaḥ smṛtaḥ

ārya vidyā sudhākara dhṛta tat sampradāyikṛta śloka

“In the year 3889 of the Kali Era (778 CE), in the month of Mādhava, on the bright tenth lunar day, the birth of Śaṅkara is remembered. This śloka, upholding the nectar of āryan learning, is composed according to the sampradāyika tradition.”

Later, after Śaṅkara had embraced the order of sannyāsa and, while travelling through many lands, was residing on the mountain called Śṛṅga, surrounded by his own disciples such as Sureśācārya and engaged in discussion of the Vedānta śāstra, at that time the final hour of his mother approached. At that time, the mother of the venerable world-teacher – due to advanced age and the frailty of widowhood – was exceedingly weak. 

Seeing that her own end was near, she began repeatedly recalling her only son who was a sannyāsi. Śaṅkara, being omniscient, was able to hear the anguished cries of his mother even while residing on the Śṛṅga mountain. Then, leaving his disciples, by the power of his yogika strength, he immediately proceeded to the village of Kālapi and paid respects at his mother’s feet. The wife of Śivaguru, seeing her child before her as if in a dream, became exceedingly joyful and began to say, ‘Son, my final moment has now arrived. I am an ignorant and helpless woman. Please tell me what duty I should now perform.”

Hearing his mother’s words of distress, Śaṅkara began to instruct her about the non-differentiated Brahman that he had previously expounded. But his mother, showing her inability to grasp that, replied, “Son! I am a woman – I have no capacity to contemplate that non-differentiated Brahman. Therefore, please teach me about a beautiful, tangible form of Brahman.”

Then Śaṅkara instructed his mother to contemplate the nature of all beings and the essence of Bhūtanātha (Śiva). He began to recite in the bhujaṅga-prayāta metre a hymn in praise of the eight forms of Mahādeva. Pleased with that hymn, Śiva, wielding the trident and Pīṇaka bow, sent his attendants to honour her. Seeing this, Śaṅkara’s mother became dissatisfied and said, “I will not go along with the attendants of Śiva.”*

*vilokyatān śula pināka hastam

naivānugaccheyamitibruvastyām

Having seen them, with trident and Pināka in hand, she said, ‘I will not follow.’ (Śaṅkara Vijaya)

Then the crest-jewel of parivrājakācāryas, perceiving that no other recourse remained, understood his mother’s unparalleled bhakti to Śrī Kṛṣṇa. Overjoyed, he began to recite verses in praise of the supremely merciful Lord of Lakṣmī, who is most affectionate to His devotees.

For the benefit of the readers, three ślokas gathered by Sāyanīya Mādhavācārya are quoted here:

bhujagādhipa bhogatalpa bhājaṁ

kamalākṣa sthala kalpitāṅghri padmaṁ

abhivījitamādareṇa līlā-

vasudhābhyāṁ calamāna cāmarābhyāṁ


vihitāñjalinā niṣevyamāṇaṁ

vinatānanda kṛtāgrato rathena

dhṛta-mūrtibhirastra devatābhiḥ

paritaṁ pañcabhirañcitopakaṇṭaṁ


mahanīya-tamāla-komalaṅgaṁ

mukuṭī-ratna-cayaṁ mahār’yantaṁ

śiśiretara-bhānu-śīlitāgraṁ

hari-nīlopala-bhūdharaṁ hasantaṁ

(Vishnu) He who uses the coils of the serpent-king as a couch; whose lotus-feet are placed upon the bosom of Lakṣmī; who is gently fanned with affection by Līlā and Vasudhā, with cāmaras moving to and fro; He who is attended with folded palms by the joyful son of Vinatā (Garuḍa), who acts as His chariot; who is surrounded by His five weapons (the conch, discus, club, bow and sword) who have assumed personified celestial forms; whose limbs are tender like the revered tamāla tree; who is adorned with clusters of jewels set upon His crown; whose face is radiant like the sun; who playfully outshines the sapphire with the beauty of His body – I praise that smiling Hari, the supporter of the earth, who is blue, like a sapphire.

Śivaguru’s wife, hearing this regal prayer to the Supreme Deity, Śrī Kṛṣṇa composed by her own son as his own means, became exceedingly joyful; and while contemplating the enchanting form of Śrī Śrī Mādhava, she abandoned her body like a yogī. At that moment, Viṣṇu swiftly arrived, accompanied by a celestial aerial car radiant like the autumnal moon. Seating Śaṅkara’s mother upon that Vaiṣṇava vimāna, He carried her beyond the realms of the Sun, the Moon, Varuṇa, Indra, and even Brahmaloka, and brought her to the supreme abode of Lord Viṣṇu, in other words, Vaikuṇṭha-dhāma.

(‘The Vaiṣṇavism of Ancient Āryan Women,’ was first published in Sajjana Toṣaṇī, Volume 2, Issue 9, in 1885 and translated by Swami Bhaktivijñāna Giri)


Wednesday, February 4, 2026

More Cancer / Vrndavana Corruption / Passing Devotees / Holding Power etc. 02 04 26



PADA: Very young mother -- who is at the cancer hospital. Sorry folks, I believe that offering food to deviated people contaminates the food, and causes ill effects. My ex-witch devotee lady confirms this, offering food to deviated people would make the people ingesting that food -- suffer ill results. And it is affecting many devotees, or even affecting the whole ISKCON society wholesale. 

In sum, offering food to deviated people is a Satanic practice, and it will make people suffer, and it is. I feel very sad for the victims, they just have no idea what is sattvic offering and what is not. She has two lovely little kids, and if she is gone, they are going to suffer. I cannot help but notice none of the big ISKCON authorities ever mentions anything about this.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com  


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VAISNAVAS ESPANA

Administrative crisis and corruption complaints in ISKCON Vrindavan

Although we know that ISKCON Mayapur is the most corrupt yatra or project of ISKCON organization globally—where the main guru or local leader, Jayapataka, has always protected his malicious disciples and has covered up many barbarities happening there—, now the crown jewel, ISKCON Vrindavan, is facing an administrative crisis due to the corruption and internal complicity of some of its leaders.

Srutakirti, an administrative member, married several years ago a young Russian-Armenian who suffers delusions of grandeur and exhibits excesses of authority and cruelty, believing herself a kind of empress because of her high profile husband within ISKCON. Therefore, the devotees of the pujari department and a wide majority of the congregation have decided to confront them after tolerating the abuses of this couple for a long time.

At the same time, the three ISKCON Vrindavan Presidents are involved in corruption acts, supporting the Accountant, who manages the funds and has a decisive voice in executing money generating projects, without presenting a clear accounting to the public. The latter character is a Hindu named Visnunam, who before moving to Vrindavan was implicated in the suicide of a married devotee with whom he was having a secret extramarital relationship.

Already installed in Vrindavan, Visnunam, with its rhetoric and strategies, has managed to control administrative decisions and obtain complicity from other higher ranking members. He is currently accused — with evidence — of maintaining a new extramarital relationship with a young devout European resident in Vrindavan. 

Their handling of donations, management of some guest houses belonging to ISKCON Vrindavan and their responsibility in the mismanagement of the new goshala located in a village of Vraja, away from the Krishna-Balaram Mandir are also questioned. Death of dozens of cows and bulls has been reported in said goshala due to negligence of administrator or supervisor: Visnunam.

The situation has provoked a wave of protests on social networks, from which this information has been obtained, which, according to various sources, is true, verified and widespread viral circulation. Unfortunately, the GBC allotted to ISKCON Vrindavan, Guru Prasad Swami, avoids taking relevant actions.

The character in the video is Pancha Gauda das, one of the three presidents of ISKCON Vrindavan and staunch defender of Visnunam and other corrupt individuals. In the attached photos you can see Visnunam and Srutakirti and Vishakha.

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RAGAMATANI PASSES






A Dasi: A friend of Ragamatani Acbsp sent me an email informing me she passed away in Dec. She was 68. I was sad and also surprised because she had the cleanest diet of anyone I knew. She had not been an active devotee for a long time, but was always very favorable. I remember her beautiful voice when she chanted bhajans with great feeling. I'm sure that will go to her eternal credit. I think there are some matajis who will remember her.

PADA: I don't really know about this lady, but she was reported as "an angel's voice" bhajan singer, and she supposedly stayed at New Vrndavana for some time. But I do wish her God speed on her soul's future destination. She has not been active as a devotee, well no kidding, most of them were purged and alienated out of ISKCON.

ys pd 

angel108b@yahoo.com 

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AUSPICIOUS PASSING OF MANIBANDHA DASA PRABHU (Patita Pavana dasa) 

1 Feb. 2026: We have received word that our Gurubhai Shriman Manibandha dasa Prabhu has passed away. His daughter-in-law Chaitanya devi and son Swarupa messaged us. More details will be forthcoming. We’ll describe the stars of his passing at the end of this short tribute. 

For many devotees, the first encounter with Manibandha was in Calcutta in the early 1970s. The temple there at Albert Road did not have sufficient bathing facilities for the large crowds of devotees who stopped over at Calcutta on the way to Mayapur. We had to take bath in the pond across the street. Always the entrepreneur, Manibandha sold gumchas to the devotees to raise funds for the temple. For many devotees, it was an early “welcome to India.” 

I knew Manibandha in El Cerrito, California in the 80s when we’d sometimes picnic at Lake Anza at Tilden Park in the hills overlooking the Bay. He was supporting himself as a carpenter there. On one job, he found a large stash of gold coins that someone years earlier has squirreled away in the rafters of a house. He could easily have kept the priceless treasure, and no one would have been any wiser. 

Instead, without a second thought he handed the hoard over to the current owners. However, like all followers of Prabhupada from all generations, he had a superior wealth--daivi sampath. From his time of disappearance, the blessings of the Sat-Guru Shrila Prabhupada and Krishna are evident upon the departed devotee. 

He passed away in the morning after sunrise meaning that he got “the triple crown and then some.” Not only is the Sun in uttarayana, and it was daytime, but the tithi was the holy day of Magha Purnima. This is the last day of the Magha Mela when the sounds of the Holy Name are roaring from the Ganges and at holy places all over Bharat. 

Chaitanya dasi told me that he was under some medical care. He had just taken his bath, and when the nurse came just a few moments later, he had quietly disappeared—just like that! 

The Supreme Lord Krishna informs Arjuna (Bg 8.24), agnir jyotir ahaḥ śuklaḥ ṣaṇ-māsā uttarāyaṇam “Those who know the Supreme Brahman pass away from the world during the influence of the fiery god (Agnideva), in the light (daytime), at an auspicious moment during the (waxing) fortnight of the Moon (shukla paksha) and the six months when the sun travels in the north (uttarayana)." All glories to Manibanda on his way to Krishna's lotus feet by the blessings of Shrila Prabhupada. 

Disappearance chakra of Manibandha Prabhu, 8:55 AM EST. Ocala. FL. Sun and Moon in opposition denoting Full Moon Moon, in his own sign of Cancer, Mars exalted, and Ketu (the planet of liberation or moksha karaka) in his own sign in Leo lagna (ascendant). IMAGES: Manibandha Prabhu as a brahmachari and householder.

PADA: I knew Manibandha many years ago. He had this kind of friendly and enthusiastic personality, which I appreciated. I remember he would sort of prank me with his joking behaviors. 

But after 1978, I never heard anything about his situation. Another ISKCON purge victim? Not sure what was going on with him, but in any case, also wishing him God speed in his future situation. ys pd  

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From the incisive Pranada Devi, shared with her permission:

"The threat of a split isn't the possibility of a split, it is a split.

It is final. Indian leaders will not follow the GBC on anything they don't wish too and they have more agenda items than VDG. Therefore they are an independent body whether the GBC international acknowledges it or not. By succumbing in an effort to prevent a split, they are not facing the reality that the split has ALREADY taken place.

The GBC now stands at a grave threshold. If they recognize that the threatened schism has already, in essence, occurred — that the moment collective obedience was replaced by coercion, unity was broken — they might find the courage to hold steady. Acknowledging reality is their first act of strength. Pretending that harmony still exists only ensures paralysis.

Because as long as the Indian leaders continue to leverage disobedience as a form of negotiation, the separation will not only remain — it will deepen. The split is no longer a looming possibility; it is a continuing condition born of an attitude that refuses shared accountability. 

And until that attitude changes or is directly addressed, the society will live divided, even if the paperwork is slow to admit it. So the GBC’s task is not to prevent a division that has “not yet happened,” but to recognize that it already has — and to respond not with appeasement but with fidelity to Srila Prabhupada’s governing principle. Only clear acknowledgement can restore moral authority; submission will only confirm the loss of it."

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Mahesh Raja says:

Dusyanta dasa: What would be that strong, or very strong, principle that a devotee could actually deliver His Diksa Guru or Shiksa Guru?

Mahesh: Your words “actually deliver” this is a MISTAKE. There is no question of DELIVERING a Diksa guru because the Diksa guru by QUALIFICATION is MAHA BHAGAVATA he is ALREADY LIBERATED:

Madhya 24.330 The Sixty-One Explanations of the Atmarama Verse

MAHA-BHAGAVATA-srestho
brahmano vai gurur nrnam
sarvesam eva lokanam
asau pujyo yatha harih
maha-kula-prasuto ‘pi
sarva-yajnesu DIKSITAH
sahasra-sakhadhyayi ca
na guruh syad avaisnavah

The guru MUST be situated on the topmost platform of devotional service. There are three classes of devotees, and the guru MUST be accepted from the topmost class. The first-class devotee is the spiritual master for all kinds of people. 

….When one has attained the topmost position of MAHA-BHAGAVATA, he is to be accepted as a guru and worshiped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. ONLY SUCH A PERSON IS ELIGIBLE TO OCCUPY THE POST OF A GURU.))

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Let us go back to the EXACT quote in question:

The conclusion is that a disciple or an offspring who is a very strong devotee can carry with him to Vaikuṇṭhaloka either his father, mother or śikṣā- or dīkṣā-guru. Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura used to say, “If I could perfectly deliver even one soul back home, back to Godhead, I would think my mission—propagating Kṛṣṇa consciousness—to be successful.” 

The Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is spreading now all over the world, and sometimes I think that even though I am crippled in many ways, if one of my disciples becomes as strong as Dhruva Mahārāja, then he will be able to carry me with him to Vaikuṇṭhaloka.

1) The Maha Bhagavata (the DIKSA guru) is not lacking QUALIFICATION – he does NOT require to be delivered.

2) The HUMBLENESS is Vaisnava qualification it should NOT be taken that Maha Bhagavata is lacking ability to deliver his disciples : ” Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura used to say, “If I could perfectly deliver even one soul back home, back to Godhead, I would think my mission—propagating Kṛṣṇa consciousness—to be successful.” The Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is spreading now all over the world, and sometimes I think that even though I am crippled in many ways, if one of my disciples becomes as strong as Dhruva Mahārāja, then he will be able to carry me with him to Vaikuṇṭhaloka.” 

It is NOT about Maha bhagavata asking for delivering him. Vaisnavas QUALIFICATION of being HUMBLE should NOT be MISINTERPRETED : Diksa guru is MAHA-BHAGAVATA by QUALIFICATION he does NOT require to be delivered – he is LIBERATED.

Note: here is a perfect example of Vaisnava being HUMBLE:

SB 1.9.24 P The Passing Away of Bhismadeva in the Presence of Lord Krsna
Bhismadeva knew well that Lord Krsna is the original Narayana. His worshipable Deity was four-handed Narayana, but he knew that four-handed Narayana is a plenary expansion of Lord Krsna. Indirectly he desired Lord Sri Krsna to manifest Himself in His four-handed feature of Narayana. 

A Vaisnava is always HUMBLE in his behavior. Although it was cent percent certain that Bhismadeva was approaching Vaikuntha-dhama just after leaving his material body, still as a HUMBLE Vaisnava he desired to see the beautiful face of the Lord, for after quitting the present body he might not be in a position to see the Lord any more. A Vaisnava is not puffed up, although the Lord guarantees His pure devotee entrance into His abode.

Note: A SPIRITUAL MASTER MUST BE LIBERATED.

Bg 7.14 P Knowledge of the Absolute

Another meaning of guna is rope; it is to be understood that the conditioned soul is tightly tied by the ropes of illusion. A MAN BOUND BY THE HANDS AND FEET CANNOT FREE HIMSELF–HE MUST BE HELPED BY A PERSON WHO IS UNBOUND. BECAUSE THE BOUND CANNOT HELP THE BOUND, THE RESCUER MUST BE LIBERATED. THEREFORE, ONLY LORD KRSNA, OR HIS BONA FIDE REPRESENTATIVE THE SPIRITUAL MASTER, CAN RELEASE THE CONDITIONED SOUL.

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So if for ordinary living entity there is no death, how Krsna can be appearing and dying? No. Therefore, janma karma me divyam yo janati tattvatah. One who knows in truth how Krsna is appearing, how Krsna is disappearing, he is learned. He is learned in the spiritual science, and for him, as soon as he becomes learned, well-versed in the spiritual science, Krsna science, he immediately becomes liberated. Caitanya Mahaprabhu confirms, yei krsna-tattva-vetta sei guru haya. 

Because one who has understood Krsna in truth, he is liberated person. Therefore he is guru. GURU CANNOT BE A CONDITIONED SOUL. GURU MUST BE LIBERATED. Because without complete knowledge of Krsna, without being free from the contamination of the three modes of material nature… One cannot understand Krsna on account of his being engrossed with these three material modes of nature. And Krsna says, “One who understand Me rightly, he becomes immediately free.” Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti.

69-06-10. Letter: Mukunda

You are correct when you say that when the Spiritual Master speaks it should be taken that Krishna is speaking. That is a fact. A SPIRITUAL MASTER MUST BE LIBERATED.

68-04-26. Letter: Janardana

Regarding the action of Bon Maharaja: We shall discuss the matter when we meet. For the present, you may know that this gentleman is very much materially ambitious. He wants to utilize Krishna Consciousness for his material name and fame. Sometimes he greatly offended our Guru Maharaja, and it so happened that at the last stage, practically Guru Maharaja rejected him. And the result, we can find that instead of becoming a great preacher of Krishna Consciousness, this gentleman has become artificially a head of a mundane institution. 

To become a very important man in the mundane estimation is not success in Krishna Consciousness. He was first deputed by my Guru Maharaja, along with our late God Brother, Bhakti Pradip Tirtha Maharaja, to open a missionary center in London, and they stayed there for 3 years, but didn’t make any appreciable advance. Except that spent enormous money of my Guru Maharaja, and later on they were called back to India. So that is a great history; it is not possible to say everything in this letter, but for the present, be satisfied with these words, and later we shall talk more and more. 

ON THE WHOLE, YOU MAY KNOW THAT HE IS NOT A LIBERATED PERSON, AND THEREFORE, HE CANNOT INITIATE ANY PERSON TO KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS. IT REQUIRES SPECIAL SPIRITUAL BENEDICTION FROM HIGHER AUTHORITIES.
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Note: when the disciples took Srila Prabhupada (Maha Bhagavata) in an Airplane from New York to New Delhi that does not mean they liberated him. It just means that they could do some practical devotional service.

The conclusion is that a disciple or an offspring who is a very strong devotee can carry with him to Vaikuṇṭhaloka either his father, mother or śikṣā- or dīkṣā-guru. Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura used to say, “If I could perfectly deliver even one soul back home, back to Godhead, I would think my mission—propagating Kṛṣṇa consciousness—to be successful.” 

The Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is spreading now all over the world, and sometimes I think that even though I am crippled in many ways, if one of my disciples becomes as strong as Dhruva Mahārāja, then he will be able to carry me with him to Vaikuṇṭhaloka.

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NOT HANDING ISKCON TO THE YOUNGER GENERATION

WHEN WE DON'T HAND OVER OUR TITLES AND POSITIONS

As we get older and gradually reach the vanaprastha age, delegating ourresponsibilities to the younger generation and allowing them to take charge is of the greatest importance. If this does not take place, it invites stagnation to creep into our life and the lives of others around us. Our own attachments to positions and titles will keep us trapped in the illusory understanding that only we can do it - nobody else around us is qualified!

We may even see other young and capable devotees as a threat to our position, and in subtle and even unconscious ways we may keep them down, not allowing them to fully manifest their capacities. We are fearful of being pushed aside and out of service.

In this way, we don't let go of our titles and positions - unable to dissolve our false designations, which we have been carrying with us for many years. Consequently, we cannot move on to higher levels of detachment and spiritual experience, but will be stuck to our positions and ego satisfaction. Whenever one door closes, so many others will open up to us. Having the courage and detachment to conclude a certain phase in life and move on is the price to pay for new opportunities to open up.

Unless a leader applies those principles, it also invites stagnation to the lives of others around us, since the younger generation will not be empowered to rise up and accept more responsibilities. Every generation has a valuable contribution to make to Mahaprabhu's sankirtan mission - every generation moves things forward. 

The heroes of yesterday will not be the heroes of today, and the heroes of today will not be the heroes of tomorrow. When a man is in the age between 25 and 50, he experiences a strong drive to do things, an urge to move mountains. Krishna has built this mentality into a man's nature by giving him a stronger false ego - to make sure somebody moves things forward. 

If a leader waits until he is 75 when he gives up his post, the next generation is already around fifty - the time when they should retire and hand over the responsibilities to the next generation. Thus, everyone misses out on the spiritual benefit they could receive; including Lord Chaitanya's sankirtan movement.

A mature devotee who knows the art of empowering the young generation will not be afraid of losing his post. He will happily assist others to become even more glorious and successful then he was - it will give him the greatest satisfaction. He will accept the role of giving guidance and advice, sharing his life experience and wisdom. 

At the same time, he will be open to new and innovative ideas and will endeavour to protect the young generation from failures and deviations. Such a leader will be respected as a dear well-wishing friend, and people will be eager to inquire and learn from him. In this way, the generations work cooperatively, in mutual respect and service attitude.

If this does not take place and an organisation sticks to outdated and rigid forms of autocratic leadership while hanging on to their posts until the moment of death, the young generation will not feel inspired to be a part of it. As a result, such an organisation will not thrive but rather become stagnant, lacking a youthful and dynamic spirit. 

Particularly, intelligent and capable people will not see any room for them to develop themselves and make their contribution to Srila Prabhupada's mission. Hence, they may rather give their time and energy to develop their material career, or join other spiritual organisations.

Or else, they will get frustrated, start criticising and making politics - even getting together to plan a revolution! They may recognise such a strategy as their only hope to remove a leader and create room for the next generation. Needless to say, such behaviour is against Vaishnava etiquette and invites conflicts. 

Consequently, it is crucial for leaders and managers to recognise the importance of handing over their responsibilities and posts and move on to greater fields of activities - at the right time, before a health crisis or revolution may force us. Once again, serving under the guidance of a well-experienced mentor can greatly help us to do this step. Thus, the cooperation between the generations will be harmonious, and Lord Chaitanya's sankirtan movement will even become more attractive and glorious.

Your servant, Devaki dd

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OUR SWARUPA

Swarūpa, means 𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐥, 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐭𝐮𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧,𝐞𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐲 𝐬𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐟 𝐊𝐫𝐬𝐧𝐚.
𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐞, 𝐫𝐞𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐬 𝐭𝐨 his 𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧, going 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 home, 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐭𝐨 Godhead -- when he turns back towards 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 home, 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐭𝐨 Godhead,
then he is 𝐦𝐮𝐤𝐭𝐚. 𝐓𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐥𝐢𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧.

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Our svarūpa, means 𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐥, 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐭𝐮𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧, is jīvera svarūpa haya nitya-kṛṣṇa-dāsa [Cc. Madhya 20.108-109], 

𝐞𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐲 𝐬𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐟 𝐊𝐫𝐬𝐧𝐚.

So as soon as we place ourselves in 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐞,
then you are 𝐥𝐢𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐝 immediately.

When we understand this, and try to get free from this business,
then we become eligible for going 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 home, 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐭𝐨 Godhead.

Tadā janaḥ samparivartate 'smād.

Samparivartate, 𝐫𝐞𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐬 𝐭𝐨 his 𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧,asmāt.

And when he turns back towards 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 home, 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐭𝐨 Godhead, then he is 𝐦𝐮𝐤𝐭𝐚.

𝐓𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐥𝐢𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧.

(Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 5.5.9-Oct. 31, 1976-Vṛndāvana)

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So as soon as we place ourselves in 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐞, then you are 𝐥𝐢𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐝 immediately.

If we determine, decide finally, that we shall now continuously, vehemently fixed up in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, very simple thing...

Kṛṣṇa consciousness is described by Kṛṣṇa in the Bhagavad-gītā, man-manā bhava mad-bhaktaḥ. That's all. "Always think of Me," man-manāḥ, and bhava mad-bhaktaḥ, "be ready always to serve Me."

Bhakta means, where there is bhakti and Bhagavān.
Then bhakta.

If there is no Bhagavān, and there is no activities to serve Bhagavān, there is no bhakta also.

So bhakta means there must be Bhagavān. Sevya, sevaka and sevā. Sevya sevaka sevā, three things. Sevya means who is to be served, the master, sevya.
And sevaka means the servant.

If there is master and servant then there is sevā. This sevā is called bhakti. So here, mano-hṛdaya-granthir asya karmānubaddho dṛḍha āślatheta,
when he decides, "No more these things."

Ato gṛha-kṣetra-sutāpta-vittair janasya moho 'yam.

When we understand that "I am becoming more and more implicated," puṁsaḥ striyā mithunī-bhāvam etam [SB 5.5.8].

"By this sex desires I am becoming more and more implicated. This implication is engaging me more and more in karma, karmānubaddha." When we understand this, and try to get free from this business, then we become eligible for going 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 home, 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐭𝐨 Godhead.