GBC Shenanigans / BVKS in Alachua / Kamsahanta Question 12 07 25

 

PADA: According to the ISKCON GBC, Srila Prabhupada wanted and ordered that conditioned souls -- including homosexuals and pedophiles -- would be worshiped "as good as God" members of the "parampara tradition of Krishna." And homosexuals and pedophiles would thus become God's guru successors in the eternal chain of gurus from Krishna. Ummm, the GBC wanted to make homosexuals and pedophiles eternal parampara members?

Umm, not what was ordered. But yeah, as soon as the GBC finds out people are worshiping the pure devotee, and not their homosexual and pedophile messiah's project, the dissenters can be banned, beat, sued and killed. 

Srila Prabhupada's final order is not a final order, Srila Prabhupada had said all along from the early 1970s -- do not make false gurus, and make a Governing Body and not hokey messiahs. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com  

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BHAKTI VIKAS SWAMI IN ALACHUA

PADA: Yes Bhakti Vikas is one of the pillar support team members of the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexuals and pedophiles as messiahs project, which bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas. Yep, Alachua is also a big Jayapataka program support place. 

And Mayapur is the head quarters of the Auschwitz for kids project. BVKS was recently promoting Lokanatha, another one of their pedophile messiahs. Yes, most ISKCON people have compromised with this project. And many still are. BVKS is a sannyasa disciple of Jayapataka, who is behind all the multi-million dollar lawsuits, and is the head honcho of Auschwitz for kids. Pranada was recently gloating that she got some promoting from Jayapataka, they are unfortunately in league with each other. ys pd

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Thanks MMD prabhu, this is my dealing with Kamsahanta dasa ACBS:

KAMSAHANTA / Keith Haslam ACBSP

PADA: Yes prabhu, in 1998 the IRM folks told me there was no longer any need for PADA, I needed to stop all writing, because they had made an arrangement for me to take a Caribbean vacation with Jayapataka paying my vacation bills. When I refused the deal, they got very angry with me for "spoiling the reform." 

OK I was not going to go along with them making the leaders of the homosexual and pedophile messiahs club "the new leaders of the ritviks," which means Jayapataka would also be my leader. Worse, they made this JPS deal behind my back without even asking me if I wanted to go on vacation and stop writing etc. 

  

(Prahlad's pal) Bhakta Peter: Too bad PADA is a pathological liar, he has his facts all twisted up and makes up stories about people for some reason. He basically shoots himself in the foot. Its hard for people to take him seriously when they reserach what he says and discovers his claims are fact and fiction mixed together. Yes, the info about the bogus gurus is correct, but so many other things are not right.

So many details about what happened in the past all wrong. Call Kamsahanta on the phone and talk to him yourself if you want.... Kamsahanta himself has pointed out many of your errors and holes in your stories. We have concluded you are on the payroll of Bangalore / Madhu bandit program or possibly even the FBI. I know they wont pay more then a couple hundred dollars a week... a cheap price to sell out.

[PADA: Yeah call Kamsahanta on the phone as ask him why buildings where homosexuals and pedophiles are being worshiped as good as God, and mass child molesting is taking place, are "our buildings." OK his buildings. He admits he owns buildings where homosexuals and pedophiles are being worshiped, and mass child molesting is going on. 

OK that saves Yamaraja a lot of time, these guys admit they own it. It is all theirs. PADA does not claim that these buildings are "our buildings," they are not mine in any  shape, form or manner. They own this hot mess, it is all "ours"!

Yes the homosexual and pedophile messiah's club has ALSO always said that our reports of child abuse are made up lies. And that is how they created a situation where thousands of children were abused. Rather amazing, they are proud they created all this suffering for children by calling us liars.  

Thanks Bhakta Peter! Kamsahanta simply mirrors what many of my other God brothers had said about me for quite some time, i.e. that our complaints about: (A) The bogus appointed acharya's program, (B) the child molesting, (C) the changed books, (D) the poison issue and (E) the exploiting women process and etc. are "all fabricated lies." Its what the false guru's program's helpers, including many of my God brothers, had said almost the whole time.

Meanwhile this begs the question, since many senior brothers of ours knew way more than us about the excesses if not deviations of "gurus" like Hansadutta, Kirtanananda, Bhagavan, Bhavananda, Harikesha, Tamal and so on, why didn't our other senior brothers come out and protest as soon as these people sat in Srila Prabhupada's vyasa seat? 

Why did they sit around and wait for us to say something in public about all this, years after the fact? And where were Kamsahanta and some of these other "brother" folks when me and Sulochana were the main visible public protest (according to the police and media).

My senior God brother Naranarayan das wrote about all the horrible things he knew about Kirtanananda from the 1960s recently, ok why was this not brought out in 1978, when it could have squashed these gurus, and saved a lot of people from a lot of grief, never mind all the police raids, lawsuits, child molesting, bad publicity, murders and etc.? We knew that Kirtanananda has a tendency to deviate, therefore we are silent when he is made the next messiah. 

The good news? At this point, a number of these God brothers have recanted and told me -- they made a mistake supporting this process. Yes, there are STILL various compromised types, odds and ends hold outs here and there, who are attacking me even today, ok fine.

As for Kamsahanta, he (and a number of similar ilk God brothers) were against my idea of suing the GBC over the changed books. Kamsahanta said this would upset his plan to "make a deal over the books" with the GBC. In short, Kamsahanta and many other brothers did not even understand the significance of having original books, never mind other important things. And they also mistakenly thought the GBC would act reasonably on this and many other issues.

The good news? Many of our God brothers have now said, we are right, the changed books issue is a HUGE deviation and even -- an aparadha to Srila Prabhupada. Many God brothers, like Kamsahanta, have meanwhile have had no plan AT ALL for saving these books, and they still do not. They simply did what most of the Gaudiya Matha's rank and file did, they left and did not help defend the mission, the books, the children ... or anything else.

Then, Kamsahanta (and a number of other God brothers) were even more upset at our addressing the child molesting issue. Kamsahanta and Krishna Kanta (and ilk) said this was going to make us "lose our buildings" over the expense of the lawsuit. That means Kamsahanta (and many other God brothers) wanted to toss children into a wood chipper to "save" their precious buildings program from an expense burden (buildings where the molester messiahs program will be worshiped).

Kamsahanta's pal Prahlad even quotes Krishna Kanta's complaints about the lawsuit, because self-evidently they wanted the molesting of children process to continue. So children have to suffer and maybe even die, so you folks can save -- some bricks and stones buildings? People have no value, money and assets do? Why are you any different than the GBC's process? I worship, a brick?

So Kamsahanta and his ilk apparently worship money, bricks and stones. Or what? Did I forget to mention that due to so many God brothers dragging their feet on these issues, this why it went to court in the first place? These God brothers should have banded together with us and resolved this deviation themselves -- AGES and AGES ago -- before it came to court.

Oh forsooth! Our biggest fear is, the molester messiahs program will not have a place to be worshiped? Thus, people are expendable, even children can be tossed into a wood chipper. Children can all suffer terribly to maintain Kamsahanta and associates' bricks and stones empire? That is how you people gave Krishna a bad name, having this anti-children attitude was eventually exposed in the public.

This is essentially also what happened in the Gaudiya Matha too, at least according to Srila Prabhupada, the leaders kicked out devotees and then the leaders "fought over the bricks and stones." The suffering citizens no longer really mattered, what matters most is -- the material assets. And Kamsahanta ilk wants to help these bogus leaders in their fight for the bricks and stones?

Did I forget to mention, we cannot take our precious bricks and stones wealth with us in our next life? Yep! All kinds of our devotee associates told me the same thing, well prabhu, sure there is a molesting program, but we cannot lose -- our bricks and stones? OK the children are expendable. Save the buildings! And! Let the children inside the buildings get burnt to toast. Is that human society? Why are our brothers like Kamsahanta with that agenda, at all?

And now, they are upset someone had hundreds of children pulled out of their agenda? Why has Kamsahanta and ilk wanted the hundreds of kids that we helped get pulled out of these "GBC managed programs" -- be forced -- to stay in that situation? And why is Peter apparently with that agenda alongside them?

And then Kamsahanta said he was going to physically restrain me from going out to introduce the poison issue. He was standing at my door blocking me from leaving. OK, he was worried "we are going to lose some buildings" if this issue surfaces, especially in India. So he does not even want justice for his guru's poison complaint, and worse, he wants the poisoners to have nice buildings where they will be worshiped. Worse, he and other brothers are acting as goondas to stop me from exposing the poison complaint. Or what?

They want Judas to have a nice building to be worshiped in? And Peter, you are with that process? Yep, many other brothers told me the same thing, sure prabhu, there is a poison complaint, but if we forward that -- we will lose our bricks and stones, the India government will seize the buildings. Justice for the guru's complaint is not important, the bricks and stones are?

As for the Bangalore folks, over the past years various of their congregation members have been video chat and writing me -- saying they are agreeing with PADA on: (A) The bogus acharya's program, (B) the child molesting, (C) the changed books, (D) the poison issue and (E) the exploiting women process and etc. And they are helping others understand some of this information. Yep, whenever people are waking up, Kamsahanta and ilk wants them to go back to sleep.

Why does Kamsahanta want people to stop, and sit around like a hermit as he is doing, and not be educating other people on these issues? What is he even doing to educate others? And then the HKC Jaipur where Kamsahanta hangs out sends me links to listen to Bhakta das, a huge cheer leader of the GBC gurus. OK Bhakta das is another God brother who supports the Kauravas.

And Bangalore folks created a wonderful temple here, and in New Jersey and they are branching to Boston now. What are my other big important God brothers doing? What is Kamsahanta doing? Oh he is hanging out in India, hiding from the boogey man GBC, and so are many other brothers? What good does that do for the universe? 

If buildings where homosexuals, pedophiles and guru poisoners are being worshiped as good as God are "our buildings" aka "your buildings," then you own this mess, and frankly, you can have it. I have enough bad karma already and would not want to add the weight of owning any of this.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

THE HARE KRISHNA HISTORY / Govinda Dasi 12 06 26

SVA DIKSHA

PADA: Yes prabhu Madhusudana Russia is giving all sorts of advice to others, acting as their leader, while at the same time saying anyone who gives advice is bogus for acting as a leader and is creating a bogus bureaucracy of leader and follower.  

Meanwhile he says everyone should just read the books, but he says we should have no book distribution bureaucracy managing -- made by the ritviks -- to print and distribute the books. The books will sva print themselves. No workers needed! 

Yeah he thinks books sva print and distribute themselves, which is why he has no printing going on. He says no one can be a leader, that is a bogus bureaucracy, but then he self appoints himself as the leader of his own program. 

He is against the ritviks, because they are the people making the books, because we ritviks know that books -- do not -- sva make themselves. Yeah he is arguing with his own self. No one should be a leader, except me! ys pd    

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THE HARE KRISHNA MOVEMENT WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY ...

YD: The Hare Krishna movement will go down in history for systematically failing to save it's own children from abusers during a period of no less than 50 years. This is / was ISKCON's darkest hour.

Srila Prabhupada said: "The Krishna consciousness movement will go down in history as having saved mankind in its darkest hour" and in another place: "I wish that it will be noted down in history that this Krishna Consciousness Movement is responsible for saving the world."

I have turned around his famous quote not out of mockery, but with the intention to point out the sad reality. Lord Caitanya's Sankirtan movement has the potential to cleanse the heart of all impurities and make us truly happy. And in that way we can give up all sinful activities.

Then we can distributer the overflow of our spiritual bliss. I consider myself fortunate to have a local ISKCON community where serious abuse never happened, and I have only happy memories of my brahmacari years.

Last month I watched the documentary "Cost of silence" for the first time. I was aware of the cases of Lokannath, Shatandaya and ex.Bhaktividyapurna but was never aware of the full scope od ISKCON's child abuse history.

ISKCON leaders are responsible for this, especially the early ones - that they didn't create a protective mechanism, but instead protected / defended the perpetrators. 

Reccently I got a job at a public elementary school. The administration demanded an official statement of 'no punishment record' (no criminal record). I checked the wrong purpose of the statement namely 'employment'. The woman in the school administration wrote to me that the purpose needs to be 'care of children and youth'. It is very specific. And it is only right that they check carefully.

No coverups for friends!

ISKCON leaders would do us all a favour if they would hand over all future cases of abuse directly to the police. ZERO TOLERANCE.

Y.S. YD

"RJ ... Lokanath Dasa so called Swami Guru is a wolf in sheep's clothing. And supported by all his big Buddies like Bhakti Vikas swami, GBC and others in Sannyasa order. He admitted sexually abusing 11 year old girl. For a period of 7 / 8 days. GBC should have asked him to step down from his position of Guru. But as usual conveniently dismissed this as a nuisance.

Sleezy man ... yet allowing him to continue to take on new Disciples. Thousands in last few years. Big Money involved with lots rich Indian who are his disciples. Lokanath is evil along with Anidesha Vapu ... Bhavs and all the rest! Along with all those that support all these Dark Traders ... very narassistic demonic entities everywhere in ISKCON. 

Australia has long history of the same, GBC reps Ramai so called Swami has covered up Sex offenders & Rapist over 4 decades. Also Anirudha GBC rep for Australasia! Corruption Right to the Core. Absolutely disgracfeful cultish mentality !! They all should be in Jail.. But no ... Still honoured as great devotees . 

Vomit vomit vomit!  

KD's post is correct: "If admitted child molesters and abusers are awarded ‘guru’ positions, it’s enough to let anyone know what’s going on in ISKCON!"

SRD: The Lokanath case says that in ISKCON, if you're high enough on the totem pole of power, you can get away with anything, even the sexual abuse of an 11 year old child. The GBC set the precedent that a confirmed child abuser can be revered as the highest spiritual authority in Srila Prabhupada's moment. I do not know how ISKCON will wash off stain...

PADA: Yes, very good analysis. 50 years of not protecting children, and now having children worship a homosexual and pedophile "guru chain," which contains all manner of deviants and debauchees in that "guru chain." 

LD says this is the collective fault of everyone involved, most especially the parents, seniors and leaders who did not take this to the police. The children victims are often too traumatized to take action and should not be blamed for running away. 

LD says that if we all knew about the abuse in 1998, and we did know -- because of the court case -- that means Bangalore / IRM and others should have drove that issue out into the India public media and courts of India. Because the abuse just got worse in India with Bhakti Vidya Purna swami after 1998. 

Everyone has had a duty to expose this and shut it down, to save children. That is correct. IRM's Kamsahanta told me we cannot expose the abuse "because we will lose our buildings." OK but you already lost your soul if your bricks are more important than your own society's children.  

Of course at that exact time the GBC / IRM / HKC Jaipur ilk folks began to say that the mass child abuse program and homosexual and pedophile messiah's club is "The Golden Body of ISKCON." So there has been a tremendous amount push back on us dissenters, and support and sympathy for the evil program. 

Thus the failure of ISKCON is a collective failure to contain abuse, a sort of crime of omission and conspiracy of silence among parents, elders and leaders, at the same time a crime of commission -- a very vicious abuse protection program that bans, beats, sues and kills people who expose this problem. And that ladies and gents, is how we got to where we are now. 

Govinda Dasi says ISKCON has morphed into a sort of Joel Osteen feel good Hindu-ized church business, and that is the result of watering everything down one drop at a time until it was a flood of deviations. Anyway yeah, ISKCON was supposed to save the world, but it could not save itself. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com  

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Govinda Dasi

NOTED EFFECTS OF THE EDITED BOOKS: FROM PURE BHAKTI TO KARMAKANDA

In Judaism as well as in contemporary Christianity, there is nowadays a strong tendency towards pragmatism, and a distinct tendency to relegate anything transcendental, mystical, or rapturous to imagination or myth. Even modern day Catholicism shows less attention towards the past otherworldly saints. Of course, much of this is due to the cultural bias of the 20th century Industrial Revolution where humanity was coerced into leaving natural farmland environments, and coming to work in cities, in hellish factories—for “progress.”

Judaism also has a definite reluctance to accept mystical messiahs. Even the miracles performed by Jesus Christ, such as healing lepers and walking on water, were minimized and more than ignored. Rather, they were seen as threats to the rabbinical institution with their carefully guarded perspectives crafted over centuries.

In spite of the many miracles performed by Lord Krishna, the Kuru dynasty and demons of that era refused to see Him as the Supreme Lord, worthy of worship and surrender. Instead they viewed Him as an ordinary man having some magical powers. Never did they accept Him as the Supreme Godhead worthy of our surrender to Him.

In Iskcon today we have a very similar situation. Srila Prabhupada, the divine mystic, the master transcendentalist who brought the path of grace to us, and created miracles before our very eyes —like a swan, he flew around the world many times and changed the hearts of thousands of confused and lost souls. He brought them to the transcendental pure path of bhakti, the grace-filled path gifted by Lord Chaitanya and Lord Nityananda. 

But due to the influence of these edited books, Srila Prabhupada has now been relegated to the position of “a spiritual leader, one of many”, “an erudite scholar who translates foreign texts”, or a mere “Vedic commentator” (also one of many…) Such is the horrendous effect of reading Srila Prabhupada’s edited books. They work like a poison on the soul.

By imbibing the philosophical concepts presented in these BBTi editions crafted after Srila Prabhupada’s demise, the innocent reader will be misled far away from the path of pure bhakti, the path of descending grace. The reader will be steered towards the ascending path of knowledge, ritual and mental speculation. Karmakanda. The poor reader will be led towards “self-help gurus” of all sorts, and gradually the pure transcendental mission gifted by Lord Chaitanya will become nothing more than an Indianized Joel Osteen club.

Sincere book distributors, eager to please Srila Prabhupada, are out there sincerely working to reach the public and give them what they believe to be helpful. But by introducing them to these unauthorized and deceptive teachings, they are actually doing great harm. The poor reader is reaching for God and His grace, for the presence of Lord Nityananda, and in the original books of Srila Prabhupada, they will find it. Their hearts will open to pure transcendental bhakti. But if they are exposed to these corrupted teachings, the ever present threat of the path of Karmakanda will likely consume them. Just as it has consumed and destroyed the beautiful Iskcon bhakti mission established by Srila Prabhupada.

Reminder: NO one reaches Sri Krishna by his own endeavor. The yogis, the jnanis, the empiric philosophers may try for thousands of years. But it is only by the grace of Sri Krishna that one can reach him. And it is only by the grace of guru, the Acharya, Srila Prabhupada, that one can safely find the way to the Lotus Feet of the Lord.

Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja

Aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami ma sucah

Guru Kripa Hi Kevalam.

GOVINDADASI ACBSP

GBC vs Bangalore Court Case Update 12 05 25

 

PADA: Oh oh, Bombay ISKCON misrepresented that the case has already been accepted by the court. Not so fast! The court has not yet reviewed the new case.

But this is good, the appointment of 11 gurus were never authorized. And they crushed down, even murdered, those of us who dissented. In 1999 Bangalore had to use the courts to prove that they are authorized, but the GBC went to court to counter them and tried to stop Bangalore. 

The court has not yet accepted Bombay GBC's NEW claims against Madhu Pandit, because Bangalore has not yet had a chance to reply to the court. The next hearing is in the the third week of January 2026. In short, the court has not accepted the GBC's case yet, and they have not heard yet from Bangalore's lawyers. So it is misleading to claim the court has accepted the GBC case of fraud against Bangalore. 

Some in ISKCON have also tried to claim they are Akshaya Patra. In 2000 the GBC declared that Akshaya Patra is "food for death," and not "food for life." But now some of them claim they are the real Akshaya Patra. And we also know that some of the other leaders in India tried to make a competing "food for life" project.

The GBC has been trying to prove that Madhu Pandit is misappropriating funds and is committing fraud since 1998. But the GBC's whole position of hi-jacking the society with a false guru program is fraud itself. Snatching away Srila Prabhupada's post as acharya, was for the sole purpose of personal and financial gain. The GBC people told me their main object is to put Madhu Pandit in jail and shut down his operation. What kind of "devotees" want to jail the leaders of a free food for children program?  

Meanwhile the GBC gurus have orchestrated widespread abuse of women and children, and most of them personally fell down into scandals. And then we wonder where all the money went? Hansadutta was arrested for shooting up downtown Berkeley with four guns, bottles of Vodka were found in his Jeep, and then it cost allegedly $500,000 in court fees to keep him out of jail. Who pays for all these types of things? Santa Claus? 

ISKCON Bombay has already been chastised by the court for promoting misleading information and they were fined for making false claims against Madhu Pandit already. 

So this is a good development, the Bangalore people are starting more and more to use our original 1980s arguments, i.e. illicit sex with men, women and children never happens in Krishna's guru parampara. And it is an offense to Krishna to ARTIFICIALLY make such deviants into His successors. I knew that already when I was 12 years old and going to Church. God's successor must be pure, or he is not God's successor.

In short, deviants ARE not, WERE not, and could NOT have been -- Krishna's guru successors. Neither these same deviating people could "2/3 show of hands" VOTE in MORE Acharyas. None of this is authorized. 

A devotee asked me why is it so hard for devotees to understand these issues? I said because they are motivated to keep the big guru lie going. Whereas any American citizen walking down Market Street already knows -- homosexuals, pedophiles, molesters, perverts, Andy Warhol disciples, LSD gurus, crooks, drunks, porno swamis etc. WERE NEVER God's successors, EVER at any time, nor are their enablers. 

Many devotees do not know that because they do not want to know, they want to be in illusion. But unless they change all this to the Bangalore idea -- promoting pure devotees as pure devotees, ISKCON in the West will die out altogether and is currently dying as we speak.

And then again there has been widespread women and children abuses, including beatings and rapes. In sum there has been one scandal after the next with these alleged messiahs from Vaikuntha. Never mind some of their children victims being severely traumatized and even committing suicide etc. 

Oddly, this point is where we ALSO ran into conflict with Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur folks. They were using a photo of Madhu Pandit and his Akshaya Patra name to collect funds at a big meeting, claiming they are Akshaya Patra. And there was a photo of them doing that -- which we posted many years ago. 

Then, I said we cannot be doing these criminal GBC type things which are fraud and illegal. And that is when the HKC Jaipur folks jumped ship away from us Prabhupadanugas -- and started promoting their real spiritual authorities: Hitler-anugas, serial women exploiting, wife beater and raping pada, cradle robbing, Auschwitz for kids project helpers, sex in dham guy, cheer leaders of the Saint Radhanath oral sex in the motorhome messiahs fan club, designer drugs pada etc. And now they want me to apologize for not helping them promote their agenda. 

As one woman PADA reader said recently, the GBC guys and these HKC Jaipur people have to take shelter of deviants -- to support their attack on PADA. Thus to discredit us -- all so they can defend their favorite people, and their real agenda, enabling women and children beaters, rapers and abusers. Did I forget to mention these HKC people and Mathura Pati types always complain I am favoring Bangalore, and not them? Well yeah, they don't want me to support the people who worship Prabhupada, no kidding. 

Anyway, it looks like Bangalore is finally letting lose with the real arguments, which we think are long overdue -- and all of this women and children abuse needs to be EXPOSED and WIDELY and PUBLICLY and THREADBARE -- to expose the molester messiah's program -- to thus to save ANY future vulnerable victims from developing. In fact, a mass child abuse program should be declared A PUBLIC SAFETY EMERGENCY and halted forthwith.

And if we collectively do not halt this odious and criminal issue now, we will not have any "Krishna society" left to save -- or not save -- for the future. ISKCON will dry up and blow away in the winds of time. And victims will be cheering that it is gone. And if we are part of the co-enabling all this, we are complicit in the odious result. 

Anyway they are using the heavier counter argument tools, which I wanted them to use in 1998. They should make a public news release and expose these Bombay guys. Anyway, it is a start, better late than never! Let's see where it goes from here.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com 

YND: Respectful obeisances dear Prabhus. Please tell Madhu pandita Prabhu to take the gloves off and expose these criminal impostors of Iskcon Mumbai.
Present the long list of criminal behaviors. It is time to end all this.

No, this is not God's successor.

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VB:

Anti Ritvik Guru Parampara: 

The disciplic succession of manipulative CROOKS! FISKCON has had pyschopath gurus, rapist gurus, murderer gurus, paedophile gurus, homo-sex gurus, drug gurus, alcoholic gurus, thug gurus, manipulative con man gurus, embezzler gurus, book changer gurus, mad man gurus, womaniser gurus, sex-yasi gurus, sin-yasi gurus, GBC conditioned soul factory produced rubber-stamped gurus.

And—— now—— for that SPECIAL treat: FISKCON’S PROSTITUTE GURUS.

Compare above with our BONAFIDE guru parampara:

SB 3.13.8 P The Appearance of Lord Varaha

Brahma is the direct recipient of Vedic knowledge from the Personality of Godhead, and anyone discharging his entrusted duties in disciplic succession from Brahma is sure to gain fame in this life and salvation in the next. The disciplic succession from Brahma is called the Brahma-sampradaya, and it descends as follows: Brahma, Narada, Vyasa, Madhva Muni (Purnaprajna), Padmanabha, Nrhari, Madhava, Aksobhya, Jayatirtha, Jnanasindhu, Dayanidhi, Vidyanidhi, Rajendra, Jayadharma, Purusottama, Brahmanyatirtha, Vyasatirtha, Laksmipati, Madhavendra Puri, Isvara Puri, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Svarupa Damodara and Sri Rupa Gosvami and others, Sri Raghunatha dasa Gosvami, Krsnadasa Gosvami, Narottama dasa Thakura, Visvanatha Cakravarti, Jagannatha dasa Babaji, Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Gaurakisora dasa Babaji, Srimad Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati, A. C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI.

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VP DASA:

A Brief History of Srila Prabhupada’s Ritvik Instructions

"I may say many things to you, but when I say something directly to you, you do it! Your first duty is to do that. You cannot argue, 'Sir, you said like this to me before'. No, that is not your duty. What I say now you do it, that is obedience. You cannot argue!" (Lecture, Hyderabad, April 14, 1975]

This is an important quote for defeating some arguments against Srila Prabhupada's ritvik order. It should always be clearly noted, however, that the July 9th Directive was not a new or revised order. Nor did it rescind any previous instruction, order, or directive. Rather, it reaffirmed and formalized Srila Prabhupada's previous instructions for ritvik initiations, which had been conducted by leading disciples since 1970. 

With His July 9th Directive, Srila Prabhupada simply institutionalized and formalized the ongoing system to operate without His personal oversight. He made this adjustment to enable ISKCON leaders to manage initiations without directly consulting Him for approval on new initiates. Thus, Srila Prabhupada’s official “Ritvik Order” was specifically meant for after His disappearance—or, as clearly stated in that document, "henceforward".

Regarding the understanding that later instructions are more important: "... So, I have deputed some of you to initiate. I have already deputed... So, deputies.... This initiation-- I have deputed my disciples. Is it clear or not?" (Conversation, Vrindavan, October 18th, 1977)

Nowhere do we find suggestions or instructions from Srila Prabhupada deputing the GBC to make arrangements for nominating or approving new diksa-gurus in ISKCON. Some say that He had alluded to "regular gurus" and "disciples of my disciple," but this is speculative at best. The tape recording of this conversation is doctored and cannot be accepted as fully authoritative. Nonetheless, even on this tampered tape, we hear Prabhupada saying only that He would appoint ritviks. And this was later confirmed by Srila Prabhupada’s official order for ritvik initiations by deputed representatives.

Throughout his books, conversations and lectures, Srila Prabhupada makes another point crystal clear: One can become guru only when the bona fide guru orders. And he states this fact three times for emphasis in the May 28th conversation.

At that time, (May 1977) it was a known fact that some leading gbc upstarts were threatening to leave ISKCON and divide the movement --unless they were recognized as gurus. Some of them may have been involved in plans to remove or assassinate Srila Prabhupada. The fallen gbc men who challenged Prabhupada on May 28th were hoping to force out of Him an order for "regular gurus" --but Srila Prabhupada didn't give them what they so desperately wanted, despite their threats.

Sometimes a child demands the impossible, such as to have the moon in his hands. And, so, as Prabhupada explains, the child's mother gives him a bowl of water with the moon's reflection. Once Karna asked Lord Krishna for His Sudarshan Disc. Krishna commented to him that even Arjuna and Balarama had never asked Him such a thing. When Krishna handed Karna the Chakra he could not hold it for even a second--what to speak of use it.

And when the demon Kamsa was threatening to kill Mother Devaki, Vasudeva placated him with promises that he would personally deliver to Kamsa any future children born of Devaki. If a child demands something unreasonable, the mother sometimes says, "Ok, maybe later. Maybe in the future." She of course hopes he will grow out of his madness.

They wanted a rubber stamp from Prabhupada for their false ambitions but instead Srila Prabhupada gave the order that saves His mission and makes it a little harder for cheaters to exploit it. Srila Prabhupada ultimately assured all sincere devotees that He would always remain the real acharya for the entire Krishna consciousness movement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxfLWZbWbhY

74-09-29. Letter: Sri Govinda:

Now hold a fire sacrifice and impress upon the devotees that they are taking vows before Radha Krsna, the spiritual master, and the Vaisnavas. The beads may be chanted upon by a sannyasi or GBC man.

On Friday, 13 December 2024 at 10:54:09 GMT, Mahesh Raja <mahesh_agtsp@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Madhya 7.130 The Lord' s Tour of South India

The cult of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu is explained here very nicely. One who surrenders to Him and is ready to follow Him with heart and soul does not need to change his location. Nor is it necessary for one to change status. One may remain a householder, a medical practitioner, an engineer or whatever. It doesn't matter. One only has to follow the instruction of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, chant the Hare Krsna maha-mantra and instruct relatives and friends in the teachings of the Bhagavad-gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam. One has to learn humility and meekness at home, following the instructions of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, and in that way one's life will be spiritually successful. 

ONE SHOULD NOT TRY TO BE AN ARTIFICIALLY ADVANCED DEVOTEE, THINKING, "I AM A FIRST-CLASS DEVOTEE." SUCH THINKING SHOULD BE AVOIDED. IT IS BEST NOT TO ACCEPT ANY DISCIPLES. One has to become purified at home by chanting the Hare Krsna maha-mantra and preaching the principles enunciated by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Thus one can become a spiritual master and be freed from the contamination of material life.

On Friday, 13 December 2024 at 09:49:24 GMT, Mahesh Raja <mahesh_agtsp@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

My reply is below your email - I have put ((…)) for your statements - to REFUTE IT. So that others here can SEE what EXACTLY the FACTS are.

Yes, there are differences in each individual, and each person's realizations. We must be tolerant of this. I find humility in accepting the EXTERNAL manifestation of the Lord who is the siksha and diksha spiritual masters (PLURAL). Since Gurukrpa was present with Prabhupade when the referenced latter was written and signed, he never for one second understood that it was an eternal order. It was simply because His Divine Grace was physically incapitated, hundreds of news bhaktas around the world knew Prabhupada was possibly going to enter nitya leela, and they were desperate to become his initiated disciples understandably. In 1969, I felt the same way. I was 19. Prabhupada was 73. I was too much anxious that he might leave before I was accepted by him as his disciple.

On the other hand, I was with Prabhupada on his morning walk in Los Angeles. We greeted him with "All Glories to you Srila Prabhupada." Srila Prabhupada stopped and said, "My glory is when my disciples are being worshipped all over the world."

He wanted his disciples to have disciples and he wants their disciples to have disciples. That is parampara, handing down the ripened fruit from the top of the tree to the bottom without bruising it. Because someone has compromised, does not change the science. Shastra is clear that a prospective disciples must live with the prospective teacher for one year and then if faith is firm on both sides, the initiation takes place. 

A person chooses the guru and the guru chooses the disciples. Prabhupada made the system so his temple presidents tested the students and recommended them because Prabhupada could not be in every location. He never in his translations of shastra or in his purports stated that he was to be initiating the world after he was not manifest before us any longer.

I totally understand why so many want this, because we were all misled, lied to and cheated by the GBC in 1978. They never have atoned for their devious conspiracy. They have proceeded to make every changing systems of ratifying so-called gurus. All of us know this. Especially myself, as after serving with every ounce of my being for 10 years I was ordered to leave the movement and die by the new "acaryas."

We are not the supersoul. We cannot judge anyone. We can attempt to share what we have realized with those who are submissive. Otherwise, we will fly our own plane to Krishna, or to hell.

Your servant,

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REFUTATION:

((Shastra is clear that a prospective disciples must live with the prospective teacher for one year and then if faith is firm on both sides, the initiation takes place. ))

In our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, the requirement is that one must be prepared to give up the four pillars of sinful life-illicit sex, meat-eating, intoxication and gambling. In Western countries especially, we first observe whether a potential disciple is prepared to follow the regulative principles. Then he is given the name of a Vaiṣṇava servant and initiated to chant the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra, at least sixteen rounds daily. In this way the disciple renders devotional service under the guidance of the spiritual master OR HIS REPRESENTATIVE FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR. He is THEN recommended for a second initiation, during which a sacred thread is offered and the disciple is accepted as a bona fide brāhmaṇa.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/madhya/24/330

Note the above usage of words carefully the EXACT words “OR HIS REPRESENTATIVE”. So the question is—– WHO is this REPRESENTATIVE of the Spiritual Master? The answer is VERY clear: “RITVIK–REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ACARYA, FOR THE PURPOSE OF PERFORMING INITIATIONS, BOTH FIRST INITIATION AND SECOND INITIATION:

77-07-09.All Letter: All G.B.C., All Temple Presidents
Letter: All G.B.C., All Temple Presidents
Dear Maharajas and Prabhus,
Please accept my humble obeisances at your feet. Recently when all of the GBC members were with His Divine Grace in Vrndavana, SRILA PRABHUPADA INDICATED THAT SOON HE WOULD APPOINT SOME OF HIS SENIOR DISCIPLES TO ACT AS “RITVIK–REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ACARYA, FOR THE PURPOSE OF PERFORMING INITIATIONS, BOTH FIRST INITIATION AND SECOND INITIATION.

His Divine Grace has so far given a list of eleven disciples who will act in that capacity:

His Holiness Kirtanananda Swami
His Holiness Satsvarupa dasa Gosvami
His Holiness Jayapataka Swami
His Holiness Tamala Krsna Gosvami
His Holiness Hrdayananda Gosvami
His Holiness Bhavananda Gosvami
His Holiness Hamsaduta Swami
His Holiness Ramesvara Swami
His Holiness Harikesa Swami
His Grace Bhagavan dasa Adhikari
His Grace Jayatirtha dasa Adhikari

In the past Temple Presidents have written to Srila Prabhupada recommending a particular devotee’s initiation. Now that Srila Prabhupada has named these representatives, Temple Presidents may henceforward send recommendation for first and second initiation to whichever of these eleven representatives ARE NEAREST THEIR TEMPLE. AFTER CONSIDERING THE RECOMMENDATION, THESE REPRESENTATIVES MAY ACCEPT THE DEVOTEE AS AN INITIATED DISCIPLE OF SRILA PRABHUPADA BY GIVING A SPIRITUAL NAME, OR IN THE CASE OF SECOND INITIATION, BY CHANTING ON THE GAYATRI THREAD, JUST AS SRILA PRABHUPADA HAS DONE. THE NEWLY INITIATED DEVOTEES ARE DISCIPLES OF HIS DIVINE GRACE A.C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPAD, the above eleven senior devotees ACTING AS HIS REPRESENTATIVE. After the Temple President receives a letter from these representatives giving the spiritual name or the thread, he can perform the fire yajna in the temple as was being done before. The name of a newly initiated disciple should be sent by the representative who has accepted him or her to Srila Prabhupada, to be included in His Divine Grace’s “Initiated Disciples” book

Note: this brings us to back to the EXACT qualification of the Spiritual Master giving DIKSA (DĪKṢITAḤ) :
MAHĀ-BHĀGAVATA

MAHĀ-BHĀGAVATA-śreṣṭho
brāhmaṇo vai gurur nṛṇām
sarveṣām eva lokānām
asau pūjyo yathā hariḥ
mahā-kula-prasūto ‘pi
sarva-yajñeṣu DĪKṢITAḤ
sahasra-śākhādhyāyī ca
na guruḥ syād avaiṣṇavaḥ
The guru MUST be situated on the topmost platform of devotional service. There are three classes of devotees, and the guru MUST be accepted from the topmost class. The first-class devotee is the spiritual master for all kinds of people.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/madhya/24/330

WHEN ONE HAS ATTAINED THE TOPMOST POSITION OF MAHĀ-BHĀGAVATA, HE IS TO BE ACCEPTED AS A GURU AND WORSHIPED EXACTLY LIKE HARI, THE PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD. ONLY SUCH A PERSON IS ELIGIBLE TO OCCUPY THE POST OF A GURU.
Link to this page: PrabhupadaBooks.com Srila Prabhupada's Original Books

Rupanuga VIDEO / Not Going Away / BBT Legal Review 12 04 25

PADA: Unfortunately we do not have all of the entire Rupanuga conversation, only this teeny clip. What little he says here is good, but this does not explain the history of how we got to worship his bogus 11 guru pals.

Rupanuga was a huge cheer leader of the 11 GBC guru successors, and he said for example -- they were pure when they were appointed in May 1977 -- but they fell later. Umm nope, they were never pure at any time, nor did Srila Prabhupada ever say any of us are pure, rather he said we could make it a stool society, and we did. 

Rupanauga was part of the 50 man committee of "guru reformers" in 1986, and Ravindra Swarupa, Mukunda swami and Rupanuga were part of the "ISKCON justices committee" team that was handling me and Sulochana. And they concluded that we should be excommunicated for offending a great devotee like Kirtanananda, who was at the time having oral sex with boys in his motorhome. Sulochana said they just painted a bull's eye on us to have us exterminated, and we were. 

What is interesting is Rupanuga's idea that God's pure devotee acharya successors are often falling into illicit sex with men, women and children, drinking Vodka, watching porno etc. Wait! If the guru is shaksat the same as God, and the guru is fallen left, right and center, that means God is also fallen. 

Wow! So I was very fortunate to grow up in a solid Christian environment, because I was trained from my early childhood to ALREADY know that illicit sex with men, women and children, drunks, debauchees, homosexuals, pedophiles. drug addicts etc. are NEVER AT ANY STAGE God's guru successors. And it is an EXTREME offense to compare God's successors with debauchees and even homosexuals and pedophiles. I knew that when I was 12 years old already!

But what is worse is that when God's succcessors are not only deviating left, right and center, and behaving worse than the town's lusty -- party animal drunks -- then -- Rupanuga's guru reform team is going to "reform, rectify and repair" God's successors. 

Rupanuga's team actually believed that not only are God's successors often debauchees, if not pedophiles, but that when they are fallen, it is their reform team's job to fix and repair God's successors. Evidently God is impotent and cannot fix and repair His wayward successors, so Rupanuga has to take over God's job of dictating to the acharyas. 

In other words, Rupanuga's idea is trying to replace God by taking over dictating to HIS pure devotee acharyas. Poor God is not up to the task of reforming His wayward successors. Thank God we have Rupanuga on God's successor's fix, renew and repair task force! Yeah, the arrogance here is absolutely staggering, we are going to replace God as the person who dictates to God's successors, and we are going to dictate instead of God. Who needs God when we have the reformers to fix God's wayward successors? 

OK anyone who thinks God's successors are falling into illicit sex with men, women and children, and they are in charge of fixing these illicit sex deviant successors, has no clue who is God and who is His successor. That is plain and simple. 

So when the GBC guys say, oh PADA is a bogus Christian, well yup. We Christians already know illicit sex with men, women and children is not part of God's chain of guru successors. We also know it is an extreme offense to juxtapose deviations with God's successors. And that is why the Isopanisad says -- false gurus and their support team are gliding to the most obnoxious regions. And they are. 

Anyway Rupanuga needs to come clean on this whole issue, and we need to see the whole conversation to see what all of the rest of his talks are about. He is making some partial progress here at least, and that is credit worthy, but it is only a start. 

Srila Prabhupada says that Professor Sannyal is the best of the lot, so he died early for supporting false gurus. He said Krishna killed him so he would stop the offense of promoting false acharyas, and not have to go further into hell for offenses. And that is because he was more dear to Krishna, so he was saved from going further down. It looks like Jayatirtha was the best of their lot, and Krishna took him out to stop his offenses. In sum, I don't think Rupanuga has a clue what he is dealing with here, or that he ever did. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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CHILD MOLESTING ISSUE WILL NOT DISAPPEAR (KKD)

It ain’t going away! No matter what apparent good ISKCON does, the fact that an admitted child molester is endorsed as a ‘guru’ will overshadow everything else.
Look at how Trump cannot get away from the Eppy files! He can try diversions or call it a hoax; those files overshadow anything he does.

ISKCON insiders will complain, “Let’s move on! There’s so much good news to share! Why are you so fixated on something that happened long ago? Krishna consciousness is so urgent! Even the worse of sinners have a chance in Bhakti!”

What the insiders don’t realize is that having an admitted child molester ‘guru’ worshiped as good as God is a PR / communications / marketing disaster. ISKCON thinks it can get away with it, without the world media scrutinizing its poor judgement.

Those involved in ISKCON communications may say that it was the Indian yatra that brought it about. “All we can do is continue to broadcast the best of ISKCON to the world!”

Meanwhile, concerned devotees and anyone familiar with how the topic of under-age sexual exploitation is front and centre in the news know that an admitted child molester ‘guru’ is insanely off by any decent human standard.

Child molesters have a chance in Bhakti like anyone else, but to be a ‘guru’ promoted as a holy spiritual leader, revered by adoring sycophants in public defies rationality. It ain’t going away, not for anyone with - dare I say it, a shred of common sense!

Ys Kesava Krsna Dasa.

PADA: Yep. My India lady friend says that India is the worst place to get justice for child molesting, or any other criminal issue, because law enforcement and courts are often paid off to the highest bidder. And the crooks are often the higher bid. 

And she says women and children abuse in India is rampant and does not have really good legal tools to fix issues. And she says, that is why ISKCON has shifted its whole focus to India -- because they can get away with all sorts of things over there with their money, power, lawyers and pay offs. And that explains why they have samadhis for deviants, Government officials were paid off. 

But Kesava Krishna Dasa is right, the issue is just not going to go away, until ISKCON starts to address it and fix things. All kinds of people criticized -- PADA is always talking about child abuse -- well yeah, because we had to shine a spot light on it for many years before many people noticed. At this stage, too many people have noticed, and the cat cannot be placed back into the bag so to speak. Not going away, and getting stronger all the time.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com    

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REVIEW OF BBTI LEGAL CASE

We were not able to save His Divine Grace Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada's physical body, but we must do our best to save and distribute His original books, which He certified before His physical departure, as absolutely inviolable lawbooks for the next 10,000 years.

Question:

What is the name or names of instigators of lawsuit to stop KBI? So BBT Mumbai India stopped Krishna Books Inc? Why was it done? Where is BBT Mumbai India's web page and offering of original Srimad Bhagavad Gitas? What is the price, what is the quality, how many in stock? How authentic are they? Exactly as Srila Prabhupada approved and used or changed somewhat? Why print a few based on demand? 

What about Srila Prabhupada's demand? When people no longer know that He demands no changes to His books, and there is no demand, what then? No one is printing all the other original books. What a disaster!

Dipal Patel:

Regarding the KBI vs BBT vs BBTi it's complicated history starting with Hansadutta swami and lawyer Gupta das and then BBT jaiadvaita swami. Hansadutta agreed to save original books and helped KBI acquired license for original books. Jitarati Prabhu was last I know struggling with original KBI books but in India he got stayed by indian courts

I’ll answer briefly so it’s clear:

1. Who started the lawsuit against KBI?

From the publicly available court filings, the case was brought by BBT International (BBTI) and ISKCON—they were listed as the official plaintiffs in the actions concerning copyrights and printing of the “original” editions.

2. Did BBT Mumbai stop Krishna Books Inc? Why?

The actions were done under the banner of BBTI / ISKCON to establish legal ownership of Srila Prabhupada’s copyrights and control of printing rights. Supporters say it was to “regularize” copyrights; critics say it restricted the free printing of Srila Prabhupada’s original books. This point is still debated among devotees.

3. Where is BBT Mumbai’s page for original Gitas—price, stock, quality?

BBT’s global site is bbt.org. Retailers that carry Indian BBT printings list their prices and stock directly on their product pages. Availability changes, so it has to be checked item by item.

(They generally print based on demand and distribution logistics.)

4. Are these editions exactly as Srila Prabhupada approved?

BBT holds its editions as the “authorized” standard; many devotees argue that some editions include changes. So authenticity depends on which edition a person prefers. Both views exist strongly.

5. Why only print when there is demand? What about Srila Prabhupada’s desire?
That’s exactly the concern—many devotees feel Prabhupada wanted his original books widely printed. Others say printing depends on legal rights, costs, and organizational structure today. This tension is the heart of the whole debate.
If you like, everything is online so you can read everything directly from the source. 

Hare Krishna
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https://www.scribd.com/document/852188837/About-Bbt-Bbti-and-Kbi⁩
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/bbt-trust-agreement.html
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/official-documents.html
https://www.krishna-books.com/bbti-destroys-sb-link.html
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/bha.../dandavats-hypocrites.html
https://www.krishna-books.com/bbti-has-authorized-kbi.html⁩.
⁦https://www.krishna-books.com/bbti-has-authorized-kbi.html⁩
https://www.krishna-books.com

Macmillan BG ⁦as.it⁩ is is being printed by BBT Mumbai India

Yes they had a lawsuit in India to stop KBI original books
Because of demand BBT India also prints limited amount of Macmillan BG as it is. All other books are changed books.

https://www.iskconbooks.com/produ.../book-catalogue/english/

compare to original English language book covers at KBI

https://krishnastore.com/books-srila-prabhupada-om-21_38...
photo: Srila Prabhupada dictating right up until He physically departed.

Lord Nrsimha is the incarnation of Lord Krsna that appears to protect his young devotee Prahlada. 

namas te narasimhaya

prahladahlada-dayine

hiranyakashipor vaksaha

shila-tanka-nakhalaye

I offer my obeisances to Lord Narasimha, who gives joy to Prahlada Maharaja and whose nails are like chisels on the stonelike chest of the demon Hiranyakasipu.

ito nrisimhah parato nrisimho

yato yato yami tato nrisimhah

bahir nrisimho hrdaye nrisimho

nrisimham adim sharanam prapadye

Lord Nrsimha is here and also there. Wherever I go Lord Nrsimha is there. he is within the heart and is outside as well. I surrender to Lord Nrsimha, the origin of all things and the supreme refuge.

tava kara-kamala vare

nakham adbhuta-shringam

dalita-hiranyakashipu-tanu bhrigam

keshava dhrita-narahari-rupa

jaya jagadisha hare

O Kesava! O Lord of the universe! O Lord Hari, who have assumed the form of half-man, half-lion! All glories to you! Just as one can easily crush a wasp between one's fingernails, so in the same way the body of the wasplike demon Hiranyakasipu has been ripped apart by the wonderful pointed nails on your beautiful lotus hands.

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Why settle for reasonable happiness when you can have this? pic.twitter.com/Si81EeOVr3

— Krishna Connect (@krishnaconnect8) December 4, 2025

Supreme Court Accepts New Bangalore Case // Rupa Manjari Issue 12 03 25

PADA: Here we go again. Well Dayarama is right, the GBC will spend $100,000,000 over the next 100 years suing Bangalore. Meanwhile, they are begging for money to feed the cows at the Jayapataka New Talavan Farm program. Their main expense is evidently, lawyers and legal. 

These technical tit for tat paperwork court cases tend to stay in courts for 20-30 years or more in India, so it looks like a lot of us won't even be alive when the final ruling comes out. Meanwhile, Madhu Pandit cannot be too worried, he has already made many other programs in the name of HKM and Akshaya Patra, and they cannot be touched by this court ruling. Basically this is all about one building, but Madhu Pandit has many others and thus he can afford to lose one if need be.

At best, ISKCON will gain one building after spending another $100,000,000 which could have been used to build ten similar buildings. Anyway, we also have the criminal child abuse case against ISKCON coming along in the pipeline in the same DELHI court, so lets see how it all unfolds. 

It is amazing that ISKCON is spending $100,000,000 to stop a program that feeds kids, after they were sued for $400,000,000 for not feeding their own school kids.

PADA's Message to Madhu Pandit! It is time for you to go for the jugular on this program and bring in the child molesting issue, and take them down once and for all. Molester messiahs programs are NOT KRISHNA'S SUCCESSORS, and that should be established in court once and for all, and finish all this.  

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com    

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RUPA MANJARI QUESTION

PADA: Agreed RMD, I should not just pick on Rupa Manjari's exploiter former husband Naranarayan das Visvakarma (NNV) exclusively, because there are many more examples of "senior Prabhupada devotees" who exploited women, had multiple wives, abandoned their wives and children, or even exploited children. And a lot of them went along with the molester messiah's program. True enough. He was just another member of the overall group.

And there are also many senior leaders who know about a lot about all this exploiting, or it was even reported to them, and they never took appropriate action to protect the women and children. 

There are also examples of senior devotee men, who were already known to have mistreated other women previously, but were still allowed to prowl around ISKCON to get their hooks into the next victim. There were evidently many of them at New Vrndavana, Los Angeles and other places. 

Agreed. NNV was simply another one of them, and ISKCON Los Angeles knew he was a serial prowler, and yet sure enough, he got his hooks into more than a few women from ISKCON. 

One serial prowler came to Berkeley when I confronted him on his past exploiting at other temples, he agreed. He said he knew he was out of control. But ISKCON has no mechanism to identify and contain these guys. He lost his previous women, but also had a nice teen aged daughter with him who was mostly not supervised much of them time, while her dad was out prowling around. 

OK he was hanging out with an ISKCON lady and simultaneously some other Real Estate lady -- most of the time -- and thus his daughter did not know when her dad was even coming home. I don't think a lot of these kids ended up feeling protected either, because -- they weren't. 

And some of these "big devotee men" beat their women, and yes, sometimes raped their women. And there was no real push back from the rest of the society, so they got away with it repeatedly. And the women were going to have a hard sell complaining that their "senior Prabhupada devotee man" was an exploiter, because the society sort of puts them on a pedestal and makes them somewhat untouchable. People still write me like that now, "well prabhu, he was a senior man and you should not criticize." Oh yup! 

So the victims trended to remain silent, and some women told me their entire horror story, but told me to never publish it, for all sorts of reasons. And that simply spreads the problem around, or even made these men repeat offenders because no one knew the problems existed beforehand.  

All true. OK the point is, NNV is one part of an overall pattern. And I think that is the point Rupa Manjari is making. NNV is one -- of many similar examples -- in ISKCON. And we as a society are sort of complicit by often knowing about these serial abusers but not taking any action to fix the situation. Or worse, taking the side of the abusers and defending and protecting them, or even encouraging them, as happened a lot.  

But yeah, when NNV went against PADA, many people took his side -- like the IRM / HKC Jaipur / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Mathura Pati / Prabhupadanugas EU types, and they got another wife beater named Mukunda to join the NNV camp, and they made propaganda against PADA -- against our program of saving women and children from being beaten and raped. And they found men who beat women as their chief allies.

And sure, they must have known NNV was mis-using this poor young lady, young enough to be his daughter. So he was really de facto a pedophile. We used to call  these old pervert guys "cradle robbers" -- when we were kids in New York. They had to find lusty cradle robbers to be their advocates against PADA. 

And thus some of the women in this program reported being beaten -- and even raped. And raped by men old enough to be their fathers. And that is the program HKC Jaipur ilk folks thought should be their advisors and is going to save ISKCON.

So yeah, the HKC Jaipur / Mathura Pati / Prabhupadanugas EU / women and children beating and rape program, and cradle robbery program, is ALWAYS against PADA, no kidding. But you are right, it is interesting that the HKC Jaipur / Mathura Pati guys hand select misogynists, and / or women beating and maybe raping / cradle robbing people as their spiritual guides and advisors. 

And then we wonder why this problem has been going on? We know why this problem has been going on. It is them. Yeah I almost forgot, they made Bhakta dasa their other spiritual advisor -- and he was arrested in Puri for sex crimes, and was only taken out of jail because he was taken back to the USA for selling designer drugs, which are dangerous and can provoke aborting a fetus. 

So Rupa Manjari is right, there is a sort of overall group that is creating all this, and it is a pattern that has victimized women and children, and victimized them badly.

Now she lost custody of her kids from all this imbroglio with NNV, and as I know from personal experience, there is nothing more emotionally hurtful to a mother than to lose her kids. But these people do not care if women, children and innocent brahmanas suffer because "PADA is attacking the Golden Body" -- of their women and children abuser association. 

Sulochana said it correctly, birds of a feather flop together. Anyway you are right, NNV is a small part of a bigger issue, and he should not be the only example, there are many moving parts to all this system. In sum, Srila Prabhupada has been blamed for all this mess, but he never authorized any of these behaviors, and in fact he said -- these behaviors will take people to hell. And they already created hell in this life, never mind the next.  

ys pd 

ys ps angel108b@yahoo.com   

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ANOTHER ISKCON ZOMBIE CASE

A misguided young man Tamal Krsna Kripa Das posted a video on YouTube on November 30, 2025 praising Anirdesya Vapu (previously Bhaktividya Purna Swami).

Anirdesya Vapu was named by the ISKCON Child Protection Office as the longest running child abuser, abusing children for over 40 years - children that were placed on his watch and in his care. Anirdesya Vapu physically beat children until they bled, molested children, and kept child molesters in his school knowing they were raping the boys.

Here is the link to the video. Please comment on it expressing your disdain, disapproval, disgust, or anything along those lines. This video is a slap in the face to all of the victims of Anirdesya Vapu and their friends and family, and frankly anyone who cares about children:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1wnSKwEFvU

I will also share links in the comments to all the ISKCON News articles referencing ISKCON's restrictions on Anirdesya Vapu, and Anirdesya Vapu's history of child abuse.

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“It is indicated here that the residents of Maharloka, where demigods or purified living entities have a life span estimated to be 4,300,000,000 solar years, possess aircraft with which they can reach Satyaloka, the highest planet in the universe.” 

In other words, the Srimad-Bhagavatam gives us many clues about other planets that are extremely far away from us, to which modern aircraft and astronauts cannot reach, not even at imaginary speeds. Great acāryas such as acridhara Svămi, Rămănujācārya and Vallabhacărya accept the affirmations of Srimad-Bhagavatam. Lord Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu accepts the ningúnrimad-Bhágavatam specifically as the immaculate Vedic authority, and therefore no sane man can disregard the declarations of the Srimad-Bhagavatam when exposed by the self-realized soul Elrila Sukadeva Gosvāmi, who follows the footsteps of his great father Srila Vyasadeva, the compiler of all the Vedic Scriptures.

In the Lord’s creation there are many wonderful things that we can see with our own eyes every day and every night, but we are not able to reach them with the equipment that modern material science gives us. Thus, we must not depend on the fragment authority of materialistic science, to know things that lie beyond the boundaries of the scientific field. For the common man, both modern science and Vedic wisdom simply have to be accepted, because he cannot verify any of the statements of modern science or Vedic literature. 

The choice the common man has is to believe in one or both. The path of Vedic knowledge is, however, more authentic, because it has been accepted by the acaryas, who, besides being scholars and faithful men, are liberated souls who have none of the flaws of conditioned souls. However, modern scientists are conditioned souls prone to making many mistakes; therefore, the safest position is to accept the authentic version of the Vedic Scriptures, such as the Srimad-Bhágavatam, which is unanimously accepted by the great acāryas. ”
Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 2.2.26