GBC vs Bangalore Court Case Update 12 05 25

 

PADA: Oh oh, Bombay ISKCON misrepresented that the case has already been accepted by the court. Not so fast! The court has not yet reviewed the new case.

But this is good, the appointment of 11 gurus were never authorized. And they crushed down, even murdered, those of us who dissented. In 1999 Bangalore had to use the courts to prove that they are authorized, but the GBC went to court to counter them and tried to stop Bangalore. 

The court has not yet accepted Bombay GBC's NEW claims against Madhu Pandit, because Bangalore has not yet had a chance to reply to the court. The next hearing is in the the third week of January 2026. In short, the court has not accepted the GBC's case yet, and they have not heard yet from Bangalore's lawyers. So it is misleading to claim the court has accepted the GBC case of fraud against Bangalore. 

Some in ISKCON have also tried to claim they are Akshaya Patra. In 2000 the GBC declared that Akshaya Patra is "food for death," and not "food for life." But now some of them claim they are the real Akshaya Patra. And we also know that some of the other leaders in India tried to make a competing "food for life" project.

The GBC has been trying to prove that Madhu Pandit is misappropriating funds and is committing fraud since 1998. But the GBC's whole position of hi-jacking the society with a false guru program is fraud itself. Snatching away Srila Prabhupada's post as acharya, was for the sole purpose of personal and financial gain. The GBC people told me their main object is to put Madhu Pandit in jail and shut down his operation. What kind of "devotees" want to jail the leaders of a free food for children program?  

Meanwhile the GBC gurus have orchestrated widespread abuse of women and children, and most of them personally fell down into scandals. And then we wonder where all the money went? Hansadutta was arrested for shooting up downtown Berkeley with four guns, bottles of Vodka were found in his Jeep, and then it cost allegedly $500,000 in court fees to keep him out of jail. Who pays for all these types of things? Santa Claus? 

ISKCON Bombay has already been chastised by the court for promoting misleading information and they were fined for making false claims against Madhu Pandit already. 

So this is a good development, the Bangalore people are starting more and more to use our original 1980s arguments, i.e. illicit sex with men, women and children never happens in Krishna's guru parampara. And it is an offense to Krishna to ARTIFICIALLY make such deviants into His successors. I knew that already when I was 12 years old and going to Church. God's successor must be pure, or he is not God's successor.

In short, deviants ARE not, WERE not, and could NOT have been -- Krishna's guru successors. Neither these same deviating people could "2/3 show of hands" VOTE in MORE Acharyas. None of this is authorized. 

A devotee asked me why is it so hard for devotees to understand these issues? I said because they are motivated to keep the big guru lie going. Whereas any American citizen walking down Market Street already knows -- homosexuals, pedophiles, molesters, perverts, Andy Warhol disciples, LSD gurus, crooks, drunks, porno swamis etc. WERE NEVER God's successors, EVER at any time, nor are their enablers. 

Many devotees do not know that because they do not want to know, they want to be in illusion. But unless they change all this to the Bangalore idea -- promoting pure devotees as pure devotees, ISKCON in the West will die out altogether and is currently dying as we speak.

And then again there has been widespread women and children abuses, including beatings and rapes. In sum there has been one scandal after the next with these alleged messiahs from Vaikuntha. Never mind some of their children victims being severely traumatized and even committing suicide etc. 

Oddly, this point is where we ALSO ran into conflict with Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur folks. They were using a photo of Madhu Pandit and his Akshaya Patra name to collect funds at a big meeting, claiming they are Akshaya Patra. And there was a photo of them doing that -- which we posted many years ago. 

Then, I said we cannot be doing these criminal GBC type things which are fraud and illegal. And that is when the HKC Jaipur folks jumped ship away from us Prabhupadanugas -- and started promoting their real spiritual authorities: Hitler-anugas, serial women exploiting, wife beater and raping pada, cradle robbing, Auschwitz for kids project helpers, sex in dham guy, cheer leaders of the Saint Radhanath oral sex in the motorhome messiahs fan club, designer drugs pada etc. And now they want me to apologize for not helping them promote their agenda. 

As one woman PADA reader said recently, the GBC guys and these HKC Jaipur people have to take shelter of deviants -- to support their attack on PADA. Thus to discredit us -- all so they can defend their favorite people, and their real agenda, enabling women and children beaters, rapers and abusers. Did I forget to mention these HKC people and Mathura Pati types always complain I am favoring Bangalore, and not them? Well yeah, they don't want me to support the people who worship Prabhupada, no kidding. 

Anyway, it looks like Bangalore is finally letting lose with the real arguments, which we think are long overdue -- and all of this women and children abuse needs to be EXPOSED and WIDELY and PUBLICLY and THREADBARE -- to expose the molester messiah's program -- to thus to save ANY future vulnerable victims from developing. In fact, a mass child abuse program should be declared A PUBLIC SAFETY EMERGENCY and halted forthwith.

And if we collectively do not halt this odious and criminal issue now, we will not have any "Krishna society" left to save -- or not save -- for the future. ISKCON will dry up and blow away in the winds of time. And victims will be cheering that it is gone. And if we are part of the co-enabling all this, we are complicit in the odious result. 

Anyway they are using the heavier counter argument tools, which I wanted them to use in 1998. They should make a public news release and expose these Bombay guys. Anyway, it is a start, better late than never! Let's see where it goes from here.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com 

YND: Respectful obeisances dear Prabhus. Please tell Madhu pandita Prabhu to take the gloves off and expose these criminal impostors of Iskcon Mumbai.
Present the long list of criminal behaviors. It is time to end all this.

No, this is not God's successor.

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VB:

Anti Ritvik Guru Parampara: 

The disciplic succession of manipulative CROOKS! FISKCON has had pyschopath gurus, rapist gurus, murderer gurus, paedophile gurus, homo-sex gurus, drug gurus, alcoholic gurus, thug gurus, manipulative con man gurus, embezzler gurus, book changer gurus, mad man gurus, womaniser gurus, sex-yasi gurus, sin-yasi gurus, GBC conditioned soul factory produced rubber-stamped gurus.

And—— now—— for that SPECIAL treat: FISKCON’S PROSTITUTE GURUS.

Compare above with our BONAFIDE guru parampara:

SB 3.13.8 P The Appearance of Lord Varaha

Brahma is the direct recipient of Vedic knowledge from the Personality of Godhead, and anyone discharging his entrusted duties in disciplic succession from Brahma is sure to gain fame in this life and salvation in the next. The disciplic succession from Brahma is called the Brahma-sampradaya, and it descends as follows: Brahma, Narada, Vyasa, Madhva Muni (Purnaprajna), Padmanabha, Nrhari, Madhava, Aksobhya, Jayatirtha, Jnanasindhu, Dayanidhi, Vidyanidhi, Rajendra, Jayadharma, Purusottama, Brahmanyatirtha, Vyasatirtha, Laksmipati, Madhavendra Puri, Isvara Puri, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Svarupa Damodara and Sri Rupa Gosvami and others, Sri Raghunatha dasa Gosvami, Krsnadasa Gosvami, Narottama dasa Thakura, Visvanatha Cakravarti, Jagannatha dasa Babaji, Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Gaurakisora dasa Babaji, Srimad Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati, A. C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI.

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VP DASA:

A Brief History of Srila Prabhupada’s Ritvik Instructions

"I may say many things to you, but when I say something directly to you, you do it! Your first duty is to do that. You cannot argue, 'Sir, you said like this to me before'. No, that is not your duty. What I say now you do it, that is obedience. You cannot argue!" (Lecture, Hyderabad, April 14, 1975]

This is an important quote for defeating some arguments against Srila Prabhupada's ritvik order. It should always be clearly noted, however, that the July 9th Directive was not a new or revised order. Nor did it rescind any previous instruction, order, or directive. Rather, it reaffirmed and formalized Srila Prabhupada's previous instructions for ritvik initiations, which had been conducted by leading disciples since 1970. 

With His July 9th Directive, Srila Prabhupada simply institutionalized and formalized the ongoing system to operate without His personal oversight. He made this adjustment to enable ISKCON leaders to manage initiations without directly consulting Him for approval on new initiates. Thus, Srila Prabhupada’s official “Ritvik Order” was specifically meant for after His disappearance—or, as clearly stated in that document, "henceforward".

Regarding the understanding that later instructions are more important: "... So, I have deputed some of you to initiate. I have already deputed... So, deputies.... This initiation-- I have deputed my disciples. Is it clear or not?" (Conversation, Vrindavan, October 18th, 1977)

Nowhere do we find suggestions or instructions from Srila Prabhupada deputing the GBC to make arrangements for nominating or approving new diksa-gurus in ISKCON. Some say that He had alluded to "regular gurus" and "disciples of my disciple," but this is speculative at best. The tape recording of this conversation is doctored and cannot be accepted as fully authoritative. Nonetheless, even on this tampered tape, we hear Prabhupada saying only that He would appoint ritviks. And this was later confirmed by Srila Prabhupada’s official order for ritvik initiations by deputed representatives.

Throughout his books, conversations and lectures, Srila Prabhupada makes another point crystal clear: One can become guru only when the bona fide guru orders. And he states this fact three times for emphasis in the May 28th conversation.

At that time, (May 1977) it was a known fact that some leading gbc upstarts were threatening to leave ISKCON and divide the movement --unless they were recognized as gurus. Some of them may have been involved in plans to remove or assassinate Srila Prabhupada. The fallen gbc men who challenged Prabhupada on May 28th were hoping to force out of Him an order for "regular gurus" --but Srila Prabhupada didn't give them what they so desperately wanted, despite their threats.

Sometimes a child demands the impossible, such as to have the moon in his hands. And, so, as Prabhupada explains, the child's mother gives him a bowl of water with the moon's reflection. Once Karna asked Lord Krishna for His Sudarshan Disc. Krishna commented to him that even Arjuna and Balarama had never asked Him such a thing. When Krishna handed Karna the Chakra he could not hold it for even a second--what to speak of use it.

And when the demon Kamsa was threatening to kill Mother Devaki, Vasudeva placated him with promises that he would personally deliver to Kamsa any future children born of Devaki. If a child demands something unreasonable, the mother sometimes says, "Ok, maybe later. Maybe in the future." She of course hopes he will grow out of his madness.

They wanted a rubber stamp from Prabhupada for their false ambitions but instead Srila Prabhupada gave the order that saves His mission and makes it a little harder for cheaters to exploit it. Srila Prabhupada ultimately assured all sincere devotees that He would always remain the real acharya for the entire Krishna consciousness movement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxfLWZbWbhY

74-09-29. Letter: Sri Govinda:

Now hold a fire sacrifice and impress upon the devotees that they are taking vows before Radha Krsna, the spiritual master, and the Vaisnavas. The beads may be chanted upon by a sannyasi or GBC man.

On Friday, 13 December 2024 at 10:54:09 GMT, Mahesh Raja <mahesh_agtsp@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Madhya 7.130 The Lord' s Tour of South India

The cult of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu is explained here very nicely. One who surrenders to Him and is ready to follow Him with heart and soul does not need to change his location. Nor is it necessary for one to change status. One may remain a householder, a medical practitioner, an engineer or whatever. It doesn't matter. One only has to follow the instruction of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, chant the Hare Krsna maha-mantra and instruct relatives and friends in the teachings of the Bhagavad-gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam. One has to learn humility and meekness at home, following the instructions of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, and in that way one's life will be spiritually successful. 

ONE SHOULD NOT TRY TO BE AN ARTIFICIALLY ADVANCED DEVOTEE, THINKING, "I AM A FIRST-CLASS DEVOTEE." SUCH THINKING SHOULD BE AVOIDED. IT IS BEST NOT TO ACCEPT ANY DISCIPLES. One has to become purified at home by chanting the Hare Krsna maha-mantra and preaching the principles enunciated by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Thus one can become a spiritual master and be freed from the contamination of material life.

On Friday, 13 December 2024 at 09:49:24 GMT, Mahesh Raja <mahesh_agtsp@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

My reply is below your email - I have put ((…)) for your statements - to REFUTE IT. So that others here can SEE what EXACTLY the FACTS are.

Yes, there are differences in each individual, and each person's realizations. We must be tolerant of this. I find humility in accepting the EXTERNAL manifestation of the Lord who is the siksha and diksha spiritual masters (PLURAL). Since Gurukrpa was present with Prabhupade when the referenced latter was written and signed, he never for one second understood that it was an eternal order. It was simply because His Divine Grace was physically incapitated, hundreds of news bhaktas around the world knew Prabhupada was possibly going to enter nitya leela, and they were desperate to become his initiated disciples understandably. In 1969, I felt the same way. I was 19. Prabhupada was 73. I was too much anxious that he might leave before I was accepted by him as his disciple.

On the other hand, I was with Prabhupada on his morning walk in Los Angeles. We greeted him with "All Glories to you Srila Prabhupada." Srila Prabhupada stopped and said, "My glory is when my disciples are being worshipped all over the world."

He wanted his disciples to have disciples and he wants their disciples to have disciples. That is parampara, handing down the ripened fruit from the top of the tree to the bottom without bruising it. Because someone has compromised, does not change the science. Shastra is clear that a prospective disciples must live with the prospective teacher for one year and then if faith is firm on both sides, the initiation takes place. 

A person chooses the guru and the guru chooses the disciples. Prabhupada made the system so his temple presidents tested the students and recommended them because Prabhupada could not be in every location. He never in his translations of shastra or in his purports stated that he was to be initiating the world after he was not manifest before us any longer.

I totally understand why so many want this, because we were all misled, lied to and cheated by the GBC in 1978. They never have atoned for their devious conspiracy. They have proceeded to make every changing systems of ratifying so-called gurus. All of us know this. Especially myself, as after serving with every ounce of my being for 10 years I was ordered to leave the movement and die by the new "acaryas."

We are not the supersoul. We cannot judge anyone. We can attempt to share what we have realized with those who are submissive. Otherwise, we will fly our own plane to Krishna, or to hell.

Your servant,

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REFUTATION:

((Shastra is clear that a prospective disciples must live with the prospective teacher for one year and then if faith is firm on both sides, the initiation takes place. ))

In our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, the requirement is that one must be prepared to give up the four pillars of sinful life-illicit sex, meat-eating, intoxication and gambling. In Western countries especially, we first observe whether a potential disciple is prepared to follow the regulative principles. Then he is given the name of a Vaiṣṇava servant and initiated to chant the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra, at least sixteen rounds daily. In this way the disciple renders devotional service under the guidance of the spiritual master OR HIS REPRESENTATIVE FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR. He is THEN recommended for a second initiation, during which a sacred thread is offered and the disciple is accepted as a bona fide brāhmaṇa.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/madhya/24/330

Note the above usage of words carefully the EXACT words “OR HIS REPRESENTATIVE”. So the question is—– WHO is this REPRESENTATIVE of the Spiritual Master? The answer is VERY clear: “RITVIK–REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ACARYA, FOR THE PURPOSE OF PERFORMING INITIATIONS, BOTH FIRST INITIATION AND SECOND INITIATION:

77-07-09.All Letter: All G.B.C., All Temple Presidents
Letter: All G.B.C., All Temple Presidents
Dear Maharajas and Prabhus,
Please accept my humble obeisances at your feet. Recently when all of the GBC members were with His Divine Grace in Vrndavana, SRILA PRABHUPADA INDICATED THAT SOON HE WOULD APPOINT SOME OF HIS SENIOR DISCIPLES TO ACT AS “RITVIK–REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ACARYA, FOR THE PURPOSE OF PERFORMING INITIATIONS, BOTH FIRST INITIATION AND SECOND INITIATION.

His Divine Grace has so far given a list of eleven disciples who will act in that capacity:

His Holiness Kirtanananda Swami
His Holiness Satsvarupa dasa Gosvami
His Holiness Jayapataka Swami
His Holiness Tamala Krsna Gosvami
His Holiness Hrdayananda Gosvami
His Holiness Bhavananda Gosvami
His Holiness Hamsaduta Swami
His Holiness Ramesvara Swami
His Holiness Harikesa Swami
His Grace Bhagavan dasa Adhikari
His Grace Jayatirtha dasa Adhikari

In the past Temple Presidents have written to Srila Prabhupada recommending a particular devotee’s initiation. Now that Srila Prabhupada has named these representatives, Temple Presidents may henceforward send recommendation for first and second initiation to whichever of these eleven representatives ARE NEAREST THEIR TEMPLE. AFTER CONSIDERING THE RECOMMENDATION, THESE REPRESENTATIVES MAY ACCEPT THE DEVOTEE AS AN INITIATED DISCIPLE OF SRILA PRABHUPADA BY GIVING A SPIRITUAL NAME, OR IN THE CASE OF SECOND INITIATION, BY CHANTING ON THE GAYATRI THREAD, JUST AS SRILA PRABHUPADA HAS DONE. THE NEWLY INITIATED DEVOTEES ARE DISCIPLES OF HIS DIVINE GRACE A.C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPAD, the above eleven senior devotees ACTING AS HIS REPRESENTATIVE. After the Temple President receives a letter from these representatives giving the spiritual name or the thread, he can perform the fire yajna in the temple as was being done before. The name of a newly initiated disciple should be sent by the representative who has accepted him or her to Srila Prabhupada, to be included in His Divine Grace’s “Initiated Disciples” book

Note: this brings us to back to the EXACT qualification of the Spiritual Master giving DIKSA (DĪKṢITAḤ) :
MAHĀ-BHĀGAVATA

MAHĀ-BHĀGAVATA-śreṣṭho
brāhmaṇo vai gurur nṛṇām
sarveṣām eva lokānām
asau pūjyo yathā hariḥ
mahā-kula-prasūto ‘pi
sarva-yajñeṣu DĪKṢITAḤ
sahasra-śākhādhyāyī ca
na guruḥ syād avaiṣṇavaḥ
The guru MUST be situated on the topmost platform of devotional service. There are three classes of devotees, and the guru MUST be accepted from the topmost class. The first-class devotee is the spiritual master for all kinds of people.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/madhya/24/330

WHEN ONE HAS ATTAINED THE TOPMOST POSITION OF MAHĀ-BHĀGAVATA, HE IS TO BE ACCEPTED AS A GURU AND WORSHIPED EXACTLY LIKE HARI, THE PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD. ONLY SUCH A PERSON IS ELIGIBLE TO OCCUPY THE POST OF A GURU.
Link to this page: PrabhupadaBooks.com Srila Prabhupada's Original Books

Rupanuga VIDEO / Not Going Away / BBT Legal Review 12 04 25

PADA: Unfortunately we do not have all of the entire Rupanuga conversation, only this teeny clip. What little he says here is good, but this does not explain the history of how we got to worship his bogus 11 guru pals.

Rupanuga was a huge cheer leader of the 11 GBC guru successors, and he said for example -- they were pure when they were appointed in May 1977 -- but they fell later. Umm nope, they were never pure at any time, nor did Srila Prabhupada ever say any of us are pure, rather he said we could make it a stool society, and we did. 

Rupanauga was part of the 50 man committee of "guru reformers" in 1986, and Ravindra Swarupa, Mukunda swami and Rupanuga were part of the "ISKCON justices committee" team that was handling me and Sulochana. And they concluded that we should be excommunicated for offending a great devotee like Kirtanananda, who was at the time having oral sex with boys in his motorhome. Sulochana said they just painted a bull's eye on us to have us exterminated, and we were. 

What is interesting is Rupanuga's idea that God's pure devotee acharya successors are often falling into illicit sex with men, women and children, drinking Vodka, watching porno etc. Wait! If the guru is shaksat the same as God, and the guru is fallen left, right and center, that means God is also fallen. 

Wow! So I was very fortunate to grow up in a solid Christian environment, because I was trained from my early childhood to ALREADY know that illicit sex with men, women and children, drunks, debauchees, homosexuals, pedophiles. drug addicts etc. are NEVER AT ANY STAGE God's guru successors. And it is an EXTREME offense to compare God's successors with debauchees and even homosexuals and pedophiles. I knew that when I was 12 years old already!

But what is worse is that when God's succcessors are not only deviating left, right and center, and behaving worse than the town's lusty -- party animal drunks -- then -- Rupanuga's guru reform team is going to "reform, rectify and repair" God's successors. 

Rupanuga's team actually believed that not only are God's successors often debauchees, if not pedophiles, but that when they are fallen, it is their reform team's job to fix and repair God's successors. Evidently God is impotent and cannot fix and repair His wayward successors, so Rupanuga has to take over God's job of dictating to the acharyas. 

In other words, Rupanuga's idea is trying to replace God by taking over dictating to HIS pure devotee acharyas. Poor God is not up to the task of reforming His wayward successors. Thank God we have Rupanuga on God's successor's fix, renew and repair task force! Yeah, the arrogance here is absolutely staggering, we are going to replace God as the person who dictates to God's successors, and we are going to dictate instead of God. Who needs God when we have the reformers to fix God's wayward successors? 

OK anyone who thinks God's successors are falling into illicit sex with men, women and children, and they are in charge of fixing these illicit sex deviant successors, has no clue who is God and who is His successor. That is plain and simple. 

So when the GBC guys say, oh PADA is a bogus Christian, well yup. We Christians already know illicit sex with men, women and children is not part of God's chain of guru successors. We also know it is an extreme offense to juxtapose deviations with God's successors. And that is why the Isopanisad says -- false gurus and their support team are gliding to the most obnoxious regions. And they are. 

Anyway Rupanuga needs to come clean on this whole issue, and we need to see the whole conversation to see what all of the rest of his talks are about. He is making some partial progress here at least, and that is credit worthy, but it is only a start. 

Srila Prabhupada says that Professor Sannyal is the best of the lot, so he died early for supporting false gurus. He said Krishna killed him so he would stop the offense of promoting false acharyas, and not have to go further into hell for offenses. And that is because he was more dear to Krishna, so he was saved from going further down. It looks like Jayatirtha was the best of their lot, and Krishna took him out to stop his offenses. In sum, I don't think Rupanuga has a clue what he is dealing with here, or that he ever did. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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CHILD MOLESTING ISSUE WILL NOT DISAPPEAR (KKD)

It ain’t going away! No matter what apparent good ISKCON does, the fact that an admitted child molester is endorsed as a ‘guru’ will overshadow everything else.
Look at how Trump cannot get away from the Eppy files! He can try diversions or call it a hoax; those files overshadow anything he does.

ISKCON insiders will complain, “Let’s move on! There’s so much good news to share! Why are you so fixated on something that happened long ago? Krishna consciousness is so urgent! Even the worse of sinners have a chance in Bhakti!”

What the insiders don’t realize is that having an admitted child molester ‘guru’ worshiped as good as God is a PR / communications / marketing disaster. ISKCON thinks it can get away with it, without the world media scrutinizing its poor judgement.

Those involved in ISKCON communications may say that it was the Indian yatra that brought it about. “All we can do is continue to broadcast the best of ISKCON to the world!”

Meanwhile, concerned devotees and anyone familiar with how the topic of under-age sexual exploitation is front and centre in the news know that an admitted child molester ‘guru’ is insanely off by any decent human standard.

Child molesters have a chance in Bhakti like anyone else, but to be a ‘guru’ promoted as a holy spiritual leader, revered by adoring sycophants in public defies rationality. It ain’t going away, not for anyone with - dare I say it, a shred of common sense!

Ys Kesava Krsna Dasa.

PADA: Yep. My India lady friend says that India is the worst place to get justice for child molesting, or any other criminal issue, because law enforcement and courts are often paid off to the highest bidder. And the crooks are often the higher bid. 

And she says women and children abuse in India is rampant and does not have really good legal tools to fix issues. And she says, that is why ISKCON has shifted its whole focus to India -- because they can get away with all sorts of things over there with their money, power, lawyers and pay offs. And that explains why they have samadhis for deviants, Government officials were paid off. 

But Kesava Krishna Dasa is right, the issue is just not going to go away, until ISKCON starts to address it and fix things. All kinds of people criticized -- PADA is always talking about child abuse -- well yeah, because we had to shine a spot light on it for many years before many people noticed. At this stage, too many people have noticed, and the cat cannot be placed back into the bag so to speak. Not going away, and getting stronger all the time.

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com    

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REVIEW OF BBTI LEGAL CASE

We were not able to save His Divine Grace Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada's physical body, but we must do our best to save and distribute His original books, which He certified before His physical departure, as absolutely inviolable lawbooks for the next 10,000 years.

Question:

What is the name or names of instigators of lawsuit to stop KBI? So BBT Mumbai India stopped Krishna Books Inc? Why was it done? Where is BBT Mumbai India's web page and offering of original Srimad Bhagavad Gitas? What is the price, what is the quality, how many in stock? How authentic are they? Exactly as Srila Prabhupada approved and used or changed somewhat? Why print a few based on demand? 

What about Srila Prabhupada's demand? When people no longer know that He demands no changes to His books, and there is no demand, what then? No one is printing all the other original books. What a disaster!

Dipal Patel:

Regarding the KBI vs BBT vs BBTi it's complicated history starting with Hansadutta swami and lawyer Gupta das and then BBT jaiadvaita swami. Hansadutta agreed to save original books and helped KBI acquired license for original books. Jitarati Prabhu was last I know struggling with original KBI books but in India he got stayed by indian courts

I’ll answer briefly so it’s clear:

1. Who started the lawsuit against KBI?

From the publicly available court filings, the case was brought by BBT International (BBTI) and ISKCON—they were listed as the official plaintiffs in the actions concerning copyrights and printing of the “original” editions.

2. Did BBT Mumbai stop Krishna Books Inc? Why?

The actions were done under the banner of BBTI / ISKCON to establish legal ownership of Srila Prabhupada’s copyrights and control of printing rights. Supporters say it was to “regularize” copyrights; critics say it restricted the free printing of Srila Prabhupada’s original books. This point is still debated among devotees.

3. Where is BBT Mumbai’s page for original Gitas—price, stock, quality?

BBT’s global site is bbt.org. Retailers that carry Indian BBT printings list their prices and stock directly on their product pages. Availability changes, so it has to be checked item by item.

(They generally print based on demand and distribution logistics.)

4. Are these editions exactly as Srila Prabhupada approved?

BBT holds its editions as the “authorized” standard; many devotees argue that some editions include changes. So authenticity depends on which edition a person prefers. Both views exist strongly.

5. Why only print when there is demand? What about Srila Prabhupada’s desire?
That’s exactly the concern—many devotees feel Prabhupada wanted his original books widely printed. Others say printing depends on legal rights, costs, and organizational structure today. This tension is the heart of the whole debate.
If you like, everything is online so you can read everything directly from the source. 

Hare Krishna
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https://www.scribd.com/document/852188837/About-Bbt-Bbti-and-Kbi⁩
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/bbt-trust-agreement.html
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/official-documents.html
https://www.krishna-books.com/bbti-destroys-sb-link.html
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/bha.../dandavats-hypocrites.html
https://www.krishna-books.com/bbti-has-authorized-kbi.html⁩.
⁦https://www.krishna-books.com/bbti-has-authorized-kbi.html⁩
https://www.krishna-books.com

Macmillan BG ⁦as.it⁩ is is being printed by BBT Mumbai India

Yes they had a lawsuit in India to stop KBI original books
Because of demand BBT India also prints limited amount of Macmillan BG as it is. All other books are changed books.

https://www.iskconbooks.com/produ.../book-catalogue/english/

compare to original English language book covers at KBI

https://krishnastore.com/books-srila-prabhupada-om-21_38...
photo: Srila Prabhupada dictating right up until He physically departed.

Lord Nrsimha is the incarnation of Lord Krsna that appears to protect his young devotee Prahlada. 

namas te narasimhaya

prahladahlada-dayine

hiranyakashipor vaksaha

shila-tanka-nakhalaye

I offer my obeisances to Lord Narasimha, who gives joy to Prahlada Maharaja and whose nails are like chisels on the stonelike chest of the demon Hiranyakasipu.

ito nrisimhah parato nrisimho

yato yato yami tato nrisimhah

bahir nrisimho hrdaye nrisimho

nrisimham adim sharanam prapadye

Lord Nrsimha is here and also there. Wherever I go Lord Nrsimha is there. he is within the heart and is outside as well. I surrender to Lord Nrsimha, the origin of all things and the supreme refuge.

tava kara-kamala vare

nakham adbhuta-shringam

dalita-hiranyakashipu-tanu bhrigam

keshava dhrita-narahari-rupa

jaya jagadisha hare

O Kesava! O Lord of the universe! O Lord Hari, who have assumed the form of half-man, half-lion! All glories to you! Just as one can easily crush a wasp between one's fingernails, so in the same way the body of the wasplike demon Hiranyakasipu has been ripped apart by the wonderful pointed nails on your beautiful lotus hands.

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Why settle for reasonable happiness when you can have this? pic.twitter.com/Si81EeOVr3

— Krishna Connect (@krishnaconnect8) December 4, 2025

Supreme Court Accepts New Bangalore Case // Rupa Manjari Issue 12 03 25

PADA: Here we go again. Well Dayarama is right, the GBC will spend $100,000,000 over the next 100 years suing Bangalore. Meanwhile, they are begging for money to feed the cows at the Jayapataka New Talavan Farm program. Their main expense is evidently, lawyers and legal. 

These technical tit for tat paperwork court cases tend to stay in courts for 20-30 years or more in India, so it looks like a lot of us won't even be alive when the final ruling comes out. Meanwhile, Madhu Pandit cannot be too worried, he has already made many other programs in the name of HKM and Akshaya Patra, and they cannot be touched by this court ruling. Basically this is all about one building, but Madhu Pandit has many others and thus he can afford to lose one if need be.

At best, ISKCON will gain one building after spending another $100,000,000 which could have been used to build ten similar buildings. Anyway, we also have the criminal child abuse case against ISKCON coming along in the pipeline in the same DELHI court, so lets see how it all unfolds. 

It is amazing that ISKCON is spending $100,000,000 to stop a program that feeds kids, after they were sued for $400,000,000 for not feeding their own school kids.

PADA's Message to Madhu Pandit! It is time for you to go for the jugular on this program and bring in the child molesting issue, and take them down once and for all. Molester messiahs programs are NOT KRISHNA'S SUCCESSORS, and that should be established in court once and for all, and finish all this.  

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com    

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RUPA MANJARI QUESTION

PADA: Agreed RMD, I should not just pick on Rupa Manjari's exploiter former husband Naranarayan das Visvakarma (NNV) exclusively, because there are many more examples of "senior Prabhupada devotees" who exploited women, had multiple wives, abandoned their wives and children, or even exploited children. And a lot of them went along with the molester messiah's program. True enough. He was just another member of the overall group.

And there are also many senior leaders who know about a lot about all this exploiting, or it was even reported to them, and they never took appropriate action to protect the women and children. 

There are also examples of senior devotee men, who were already known to have mistreated other women previously, but were still allowed to prowl around ISKCON to get their hooks into the next victim. There were evidently many of them at New Vrndavana, Los Angeles and other places. 

Agreed. NNV was simply another one of them, and ISKCON Los Angeles knew he was a serial prowler, and yet sure enough, he got his hooks into more than a few women from ISKCON. 

One serial prowler came to Berkeley when I confronted him on his past exploiting at other temples, he agreed. He said he knew he was out of control. But ISKCON has no mechanism to identify and contain these guys. He lost his previous women, but also had a nice teen aged daughter with him who was mostly not supervised much of them time, while her dad was out prowling around. 

OK he was hanging out with an ISKCON lady and simultaneously some other Real Estate lady -- most of the time -- and thus his daughter did not know when her dad was even coming home. I don't think a lot of these kids ended up feeling protected either, because -- they weren't. 

And some of these "big devotee men" beat their women, and yes, sometimes raped their women. And there was no real push back from the rest of the society, so they got away with it repeatedly. And the women were going to have a hard sell complaining that their "senior Prabhupada devotee man" was an exploiter, because the society sort of puts them on a pedestal and makes them somewhat untouchable. People still write me like that now, "well prabhu, he was a senior man and you should not criticize." Oh yup! 

So the victims trended to remain silent, and some women told me their entire horror story, but told me to never publish it, for all sorts of reasons. And that simply spreads the problem around, or even made these men repeat offenders because no one knew the problems existed beforehand.  

All true. OK the point is, NNV is one part of an overall pattern. And I think that is the point Rupa Manjari is making. NNV is one -- of many similar examples -- in ISKCON. And we as a society are sort of complicit by often knowing about these serial abusers but not taking any action to fix the situation. Or worse, taking the side of the abusers and defending and protecting them, or even encouraging them, as happened a lot.  

But yeah, when NNV went against PADA, many people took his side -- like the IRM / HKC Jaipur / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Mathura Pati / Prabhupadanugas EU types, and they got another wife beater named Mukunda to join the NNV camp, and they made propaganda against PADA -- against our program of saving women and children from being beaten and raped. And they found men who beat women as their chief allies.

And sure, they must have known NNV was mis-using this poor young lady, young enough to be his daughter. So he was really de facto a pedophile. We used to call  these old pervert guys "cradle robbers" -- when we were kids in New York. They had to find lusty cradle robbers to be their advocates against PADA. 

And thus some of the women in this program reported being beaten -- and even raped. And raped by men old enough to be their fathers. And that is the program HKC Jaipur ilk folks thought should be their advisors and is going to save ISKCON.

So yeah, the HKC Jaipur / Mathura Pati / Prabhupadanugas EU / women and children beating and rape program, and cradle robbery program, is ALWAYS against PADA, no kidding. But you are right, it is interesting that the HKC Jaipur / Mathura Pati guys hand select misogynists, and / or women beating and maybe raping / cradle robbing people as their spiritual guides and advisors. 

And then we wonder why this problem has been going on? We know why this problem has been going on. It is them. Yeah I almost forgot, they made Bhakta dasa their other spiritual advisor -- and he was arrested in Puri for sex crimes, and was only taken out of jail because he was taken back to the USA for selling designer drugs, which are dangerous and can provoke aborting a fetus. 

So Rupa Manjari is right, there is a sort of overall group that is creating all this, and it is a pattern that has victimized women and children, and victimized them badly.

Now she lost custody of her kids from all this imbroglio with NNV, and as I know from personal experience, there is nothing more emotionally hurtful to a mother than to lose her kids. But these people do not care if women, children and innocent brahmanas suffer because "PADA is attacking the Golden Body" -- of their women and children abuser association. 

Sulochana said it correctly, birds of a feather flop together. Anyway you are right, NNV is a small part of a bigger issue, and he should not be the only example, there are many moving parts to all this system. In sum, Srila Prabhupada has been blamed for all this mess, but he never authorized any of these behaviors, and in fact he said -- these behaviors will take people to hell. And they already created hell in this life, never mind the next.  

ys pd 

ys ps angel108b@yahoo.com   

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ANOTHER ISKCON ZOMBIE CASE

A misguided young man Tamal Krsna Kripa Das posted a video on YouTube on November 30, 2025 praising Anirdesya Vapu (previously Bhaktividya Purna Swami).

Anirdesya Vapu was named by the ISKCON Child Protection Office as the longest running child abuser, abusing children for over 40 years - children that were placed on his watch and in his care. Anirdesya Vapu physically beat children until they bled, molested children, and kept child molesters in his school knowing they were raping the boys.

Here is the link to the video. Please comment on it expressing your disdain, disapproval, disgust, or anything along those lines. This video is a slap in the face to all of the victims of Anirdesya Vapu and their friends and family, and frankly anyone who cares about children:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1wnSKwEFvU

I will also share links in the comments to all the ISKCON News articles referencing ISKCON's restrictions on Anirdesya Vapu, and Anirdesya Vapu's history of child abuse.

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“It is indicated here that the residents of Maharloka, where demigods or purified living entities have a life span estimated to be 4,300,000,000 solar years, possess aircraft with which they can reach Satyaloka, the highest planet in the universe.” 

In other words, the Srimad-Bhagavatam gives us many clues about other planets that are extremely far away from us, to which modern aircraft and astronauts cannot reach, not even at imaginary speeds. Great acāryas such as acridhara Svămi, Rămănujācārya and Vallabhacărya accept the affirmations of Srimad-Bhagavatam. Lord Sri Caitanya Mahāprabhu accepts the ningúnrimad-Bhágavatam specifically as the immaculate Vedic authority, and therefore no sane man can disregard the declarations of the Srimad-Bhagavatam when exposed by the self-realized soul Elrila Sukadeva Gosvāmi, who follows the footsteps of his great father Srila Vyasadeva, the compiler of all the Vedic Scriptures.

In the Lord’s creation there are many wonderful things that we can see with our own eyes every day and every night, but we are not able to reach them with the equipment that modern material science gives us. Thus, we must not depend on the fragment authority of materialistic science, to know things that lie beyond the boundaries of the scientific field. For the common man, both modern science and Vedic wisdom simply have to be accepted, because he cannot verify any of the statements of modern science or Vedic literature. 

The choice the common man has is to believe in one or both. The path of Vedic knowledge is, however, more authentic, because it has been accepted by the acaryas, who, besides being scholars and faithful men, are liberated souls who have none of the flaws of conditioned souls. However, modern scientists are conditioned souls prone to making many mistakes; therefore, the safest position is to accept the authentic version of the Vedic Scriptures, such as the Srimad-Bhágavatam, which is unanimously accepted by the great acāryas. ”
Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 2.2.26

ISKCON REVIVES THE BANGALORE COURT CASE / Rupa Video Comments 12 02 25

Wants more millions spent on courts

when children in their gurukula complained about

not having proper shoes, soap, and food.

ISKCON REVIVES THE BANGALORE COURT CASE

In May 2025, the Supreme Court of India issued a long-awaited judgment in the decades-long dispute between ISKCON Mumbai—the society legally founded and registered by Srila Prabhupada in 1971—and the breakaway Bengaluru group led by Madhu Pandit Dasa. The case, which originated in 2001, concerned who legally controls the Bangalore temple, a property originally established as a branch of ISKCON India. 

While the Supreme Court’s ruling sided with the Bangalore breakaway group, it dealt only with civil control of the Bengaluru campus and did not address or endorse the theological concept of ritvik initiation. At the time, ISKCON expressed its disappointment in the outcome, it remained committed to pursuing all available legal remedies.

While acknowledging the court’s decision, ISKCON leaders cautioned that the judgment did not alter Srila Prabhupada’s clearly expressed intention that all Indian temples function under the single ISKCON society registered in Mumbai. They also reiterated that the GBC’s long-standing 1990 resolution rejecting the ritvik theory—as incompatible with the disciplic succession taught by Srila Prabhupada—remains fully in force.

When the Bengaluru leadership approached the GBC after the ruling with a proposal for affiliation, it was conditioned on rescinding that resolution, a precondition the GBC unanimously rejected after two special meetings convened to consider the matter.

The legal team, led by Dayaram Das, committed at the time to review the Supreme Court judgment once released in full and continue to act within the law to protect Srila Prabhupada’s instructions, ISKCON’s integrity, and the proper governance of its branches.

In a recent a statement released to ISKCON leaders, Dayaram Das shared the latest development in the ongoing dispute, “As you are aware, our review petition in the Bangalore case had a split verdict in a chamber hearing on 28th October between the senior judge Justice JK Maheshwari who ruled in favor of an open court hearing and Justice George Masih who was against it.

“Since there were divergent orders, the matter was referred to the Chief Justice of India for further action and decision.

“Yesterday, the Supreme Court of India published next week’s cause list. Our matter has been listed for an open court hearing in front of a new three-judge bench of Justice M.M. Sundardesh, Justice Prashant Kumar Mishra, and Justice Satish Chandra Sharma on 3rd December 2025.”

Dayaram Das further appealed to devotees worldwide to offer heartfelt prayers as ISKCON’s legal team prepares to present the merits of its case before the newly assigned bench. 

He encouraged devotees to pray to Lord Sri Chaitanya and Srila Prabhupada to inspire the judges from within, uphold the unity of the ISKCON movement, and allow the truth of the matter to emerge clearly. He further urged the community to continue their sincere prayers and kirtans to their presiding Deities and to Srila Prabhupada during this critical time.

Tag: bangalore , Bangaluru , court , india , iskcon , legal , Supreme-Court

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PADA: Wow, so when the GBC folks said that this Bangalore issue has nothing to do with the ritvik idea, it is "only a property dispute" -- they lied. Now they are saying the whole Bangalore thing is all about the ritvik issue. It never ends with these guys.

Dayaram did tell me they would spend $100,000,000 over the next 100 years taking Bangalore to court. I don't think the GBC quite realizes this, but almost all of the devotees, probably 99%, are living outside ISKCON now and none of them care if ISKCON has one more building or not. Or if they win or lose this new lawsuit.  

The devotees at large are never going to live in any of their buildings, ever, or maybe even -- never visit any of them. ISKCON taking over another building has no meaning to almost all the ISKCON exiled refugees devotees.

And what has happened is that most of their buildings are empty, and they are struggling to find a few helpers and pujaris. They begged the Hindu congregation here for some pujari volunteers, and none of them signed up. The buildings are empty. 

So now they want to empty out another building, that is all this is about. There is a building full of people, and it is not a ghost town, and that is not acceptable. It needs to be empty and a ghost town.

The GBC is only able to function now by using various legal levers and tricks, but they have empty temples because they lost the hearts and minds of ALMOST ALL of the devotees ages ago. Madhu Pandit is a very tolerant guy, but I think it is high time he brings down the boom on these GBC guys, and he starts to forward the child abuse issue. 

Dear Court of India: We don't want Bangalore temple to be managed by a molester messiah's program now do we? He should combine the child abuse case with his case and make that the issue. 

Simply arguing technical legal documents over and over is not a good way to win, when the GBC's enforced child abuse project is already a winning issue. The Supreme Court already has been alerted to the molesting issue, and that should become the real issue. Of course I told Madhu Pandit that same thing in 1998, get a real issue into the court and don't play the GBC's endless technical games.

Meanwhile, the last Bangalore court case already cost ISKCON millions of dollars. Where are they getting all these endless funds for all these court cases? And then they hired the top notch allegedly $20,000 an hour lawyers for their child abuse case, so it looks like they are simply spending more millions on lawyering up -- again, when so many senior devotees are living on a shoe string budget and can barely get any health care. 

Anyway let us see what happens, but Madhu Pandit really needs to finally take the gloves off and go after these guys, or he will not get free of their harassing. When Dayarama said they will spend $100,000,000 over the next 100 years in court, he was not joking. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com   

RJ: India is the most dangerous country in the world for women and children. Sexual and physical abuse are tolerated. Abusers are rarely brought to courts and charged. And they often slip out of the charges even when charged. When it comes to abuse, India is an international disgrace.

Supreme Court Allows Fresh Plea on Alleged Abuse in ISKCON Schools

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SOME COMMENTS ON RUPA MANJARI

krishna1008: Rupa Manjari Dasi // The Golden Body Of Auschwitz 12 01 25

Q: Why is the Mathura Pati / HKC Jaipur program attracted to promoting women beaters and rapers, and rapers of females old enough to be their daughters (de facto pedophile)? And they are against PADA stopping actual children from being beaten and raped? 

And why are they making videos with women beaters and rapers, and exploiters of females old enough to be their daughters, to "defeat PADA"? OK many people are saying, they think alike and promote each other, because they are alike. It is amazing that Krishna Kant says he "defeated PADA," by being in bed with mass child molesting programs. 

Of course they alway quote Krishna Kant, who wanted me to go on vacation in the Caribbean working under Jayapataka. Wait? Same JPS guy who is suing Bangalore over and over. 

LD: The karmis are right. Devotees of the "Golden Body of Auschwitz" are brain washed zombies. They are not devotees of Krishna. An insult to Krishna to say they are. Most people ALL went along with the pedophile guru gang. NNV was one of the exploiters ... of very young people. Old enough to be his daughter!

Another pedophile in their gang. No wonder they are with him. All part of the SAME gang. And when you say they ALL attacked, they ALL did! And the result is on them. 

S D Dasi: It is a pattern. Their Mukunda was a wife beater. NNV was a wife beater. Purujit? Watching porno. The Golden Body? Chock full ... of women and child beaters. Anyone who is against wife beaters? They are against.

Full of similar thinkers. The misogynists, misfits and child abusers.
All sorts of them were around here. And they mis-use Krishna to abuse others. Now the temple is more empty ... we are getting them out slow but sure. We are ruining their business.

Worse than karmis. Karmis do not think their abuse is God's golden body. M Dasi would not trust them to watch her pet dog. She is right. They used that for a long time, the Golden Body of ISKCON, we know that is a pile of manure by now. It does not fly anymore.

M Dasi: Poor Rupa Manjari. That NNV guy was definitely a misogynist, pervert, creep, woman beater, and even woman raper. And since she was like his child in age, almost child beater and raper. And then they defend ... the Golden Body of child mistreating.

NNV is a person to make as their spiritual authority? They seem to find the creepiest pervert people to make as their shiksha gurus. I forget, ISKCON gurus the same thing.

These people are attracted to these misogynist creeps ... by accident? Or attracted because they are birds of the same feather? I personally? Do not think this is accident, great minds think alike. And bad ones think alike too.

I am praying for Rupa Manjari, holy f**king hell she had to go through, and then they make her attacker their spiritual guide. What is wrong with these people! I have to admit ... they are slick salesmen. They conned people into thinking Auschwitz is spiritual vaikuntha.

Reminds me of the TV show ... they interview the Germans living around Auschwitz. None of them have any idea what was going on there. Just like ISKCON ... no one knows a damn thing. Problem is? We do know.

PADA: Yeah, people ask me that all the time, why are these people coming after PADA, and not the child abusers? And the unfortunate conclusion many have is, they are in bed with them abusers. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

Rupa Manjari Dasi // The Golden Body Of Auschwitz 12 01 25

 

Mathura Pati

The Golden Body of Auschwitz for kids?

PADA: Rupa Manjari raises a lot of very interesting points, I think she is worth a listen. She is also correct, Narararayan Visvakarma (NNV) is a psychopath, and his treatment of women is nothing short of diabolical and horrific. And more to the point, many other women were exploited in ISKCON, and sometimes treated with psychological and even physical violence -- similar to her case, or sometimes worse. OK. There has been a pattern of abuse, and Rupa Manjari correctly points to that problem. The abuse was widespread and system wide, and various factors lead to that happening. And NNV was saying this system wide mass abuse program is "The Golden Body of ISKCON."

For starters, there was a number of NNV ilk exploiters or misogynist types infesting ISKCON. I personally had to save a woman who was being beaten up, and I kicked her husband off her and got her to a safe location. Other cases of women being beat up were told to me by a number of victims. And then again mothers who collected sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars were later weeded out when they could not collect as much. They were exploited and then tossed out as "old cows." 

Eventually almost all of the Srila Prabhupada devotees were exploited by being weeded out / kicked out -- using various vicious tricks, after they gave so much to build ISKCON. So this was a sort of criminal smash and grab take over. But many vulnerable women were eventually -- and often -- left out in the cold with nothing, sometimes even with their children, after contributing sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars. So this is simply one -- after another -- forms of the varieties of abuse.  

Was this the intent or instruction of Srila Prabhupada? Nope. He said women and children needed to be protected, as well as cows and brahmanas. He said we have to respect all other living beings as Krishna's personal property, which they in fact are. In other words, there is no indication from his instructions that ANYONE would have a license to mistreat others, and especially women and children. 

Worse, he says that a person who mistreats Vaishnavas has to suffer in hell for a long time. It is forbidden. Many of these GBC guru guys already look like they are in hell. A woman wrote to me -- just now -- to tell me Satvarupa's art is from hell, and she cannot understand why the society promotes this guy, unless they are all in hell together.   

Unfortunately, protecting the citzens -- did not happen. And many times the perps and their enablers were protected instead. OK it looks like many perps get special protection treatment because they are loyalists to "The Golden Body." Never mind the Golden Body has now been reduced to burnt out rubble, an empty ghost town, because -- an evil emperor will burn down his own empire to rule over the ashes.

And at the same time, many children were also exploited in the same way as many women, or even worse ways. When I said that worshiping Jayatirtha is worshiping a predator, and this will spread predator consciousness around the society, I was laughed at by leaders and even many senior devotees. And I was kicked out for protesting worship of an intoxicated predator. 

In short, a culture of "ISKCON abuse worship" was spawned. And it then took a life of its own and was often viciously protected because "we don't want to make ISKCON look bad." "The Golden Body" no less. 

But I said in 1979, ISKCON will end up looking bad if that exploiting culture is allowed and protected. Never mind eventually the victims will abandon the ISKCON religion and we will be left with an empty ISKCON ghost town, which has happened. Never mind the angry victims will likely later on form counter ISKCON attack groups and protesting forums, or perhaps initiate legal attacks on the religion. As is happening.

Sorry, my predictions have proven true. We become what we worship, and predator worship generates more of same. Shortly after they booted me out, the chloroform used on children predators program started in Croome Court, just as we predicted would happen. And it seems no one went to the authorities to "protect the Golden Body of ISKCON."    

NNV was later on the MAIN ring leader of the "stop PADA" gang in 1998, which attacked PADA and eventually became -- the Krishna Kirtan / Pancali / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur / Mathura Pati -- and even IRM complainers -- against PADA. And these people often cited NNV's complaints, and NNV was actually part of their original "get rid of PADA" forums groups, and so were NNV's assistants.

Oh oh pilgrims, yep -- NNV -- his disciples like HKC Jaipur -- and various GBC folks -- all claimed that PADA is helping sue "the Golden Body of ISKCON." And this is horrible because, it is saving children from being abused and they are being removed from GBC's schools. Wait? Isn't this the same exact gurukula "Golden Body of ISKCON" -- which various children victims tell me -- has instead been "Auschwitz for kids"? The Golden Body of God is -- Auschwitz?

But why would anyone want to see ANY children -- stay inside and confined in -- Auchwitz for kids, in the first place? Some estimate that several hundred children were taken out of the GBC's school system thanks to our 1998 lawsuit. And these NNV / HKC people, along with many GBC people, were infuriated that we liberated these victims from abuse, self evidently. Rather amazingly, PADA is escorting victims out of Aucshwitz, and these guys are upset and angry -- because why? The victims did not die in their camp? 

So this Golden Body of ISKCON idea has been one of the biggest stumbling blocks to getting any sort of justice. And thus almost anyone who reported abuse was "attacking the Golden Body of ISKCON." OK, the Golden Body folks wanted to make us targets for violent oppression. As happened. Worse, we were at the same time -- saying Srila Prabhupada had complained of poison -- making PADA editor an even bigger bull's eye target. 

Yep! And thus oppressing me as an offender, as a destroyer of the Golden ISKCON, was making me an even bigger bull's eye target for the regime's members. But if Srila Prabhupada was poisoned, then isn't he also a victim of these abusers? I'd say, yes he is. So they said I am attacking the Golden Body of ISKCON, to get me taken out, or repressed -- which would protect -- Auschwitz for kids, and the poisoners, all in one go. And it has, and thus abuse is still going on now according to reliable reports. 

In other words, the abuser regime is helped along on many fronts at once, because whistle blowers are treated badly from many different angles. And so a lot of this abuse is never reported. It is not just the inner circle of ISKCON people who suppress us, it is also some of the so-called independent folks, OK like NNV, IRM, HKC Jaipur, Mathura Pati etc. 

These guys were even making a petition to have PADA removed from the internet, evidently to stop us from saving children from abuse, which made a lot of the members of the GBC's homosexual and pedophile messiah's club very happy. No surprise here, GBC folks began to forward complaints from NNV, HKC Jaipur etc. to me -- to show how bogus PADA is.

NNV was being cited a lot on their petition forum, and some of these folks also made videos with NNV to attack PADA, which were then posted by them -- against PADA. Yep, a serial woman abuser who is claiming PADA is attacking the Golden Body -- of child abuse -- actually Auschwitz -- is their spokesman hero.

Worse! Then the HKC Jaipur / Mathura Pati group began citing Radhanath's cheer leader Bhakta das, as well as NNV, and the writings of Hari Sauri, also against us. OK NNV is a serial woman abuser, and should not be cited as an authority on abuse of women or children. Hello!

For his part HKC Jaipur hero Bhakta das says that PADA is always talking about "stinky stools" -- when we are actually advocating for little children. And then these guys like HKC Jaipur and Mathura Pati start citing Bhakta das, OK ISKCON's children are merely stinky stools. Well yeah, for these type guys ISKCON's children are just disposable stinky stools -- or none of this would have been allowed in the first place. But the Golden Body of Auschwitz for kids program is not expendable, we need to protect and save it, and getting rid of PADA is thus the main priority. 

Srila Prabhupada says when a guru has sex with a follower, it is the same as a father having sex with his daughter. And Rupa Manjari was actually old enough to be NNV's daughter. NNV saw a vulnerable "newbie" person who was "ripe for the picking" as they say, but who should ACTUALLY be treated as his daughter. But he took advantage of her instead. And yeah, destroyed her life in so many ways. And many gurukula children had their lives destroyed, ok this is a pattern.

Now some folks have chastised me that ISKCON kids / Rupa Manjari types got what they deserved. It is their karma. I do not think so. When an old woman who was my neighbor asked me to drive her somewhere, I asked her -- what happened to your newly purchased car? Well it turns out her recently purchased used car did not have 70,000 miles on it, it had 370,000 and it was a used taxi. 

So she was cheated, and I had to help her go to the Business Bureau and try to get her money back. Eventually, the car dealer had to refund her money, but it was a giant hassle. So yeah, she is partly responsible, but more so -- is the used car dealer. Rupa Manjari was cheated, and so were thousands of other women who got into the ISKCON abuse system. And I would say -- the abusers are more responsible than the abused. This "karma" idea is simply an excuse not to challenge the abuse infrastructure.   

At this stage, it looks they are losing the battle, because PADA's issues were not stopped by them, despite their defense of the Auschwitz for kids process. The abuser's club, including these defenders, failed to halt our efforts, and thus the Delhi court has opened the child abuse issue there right now. Sorry, Auschwitz for kids has to be exposed and checked, and so do the cheer leaders, defenders and apologists of that process.

Yep, PADA is helping liberate hundreds of kids from ISKCON's molester messiah's schools (the parents were taking their kids out en masse after the 1998 lawsuit was filed), and this is stopping children from potentially being starved, beaten and raped. That is very bad! Umm, well yeah it is very bad for the abusers regime. But it is good news for those children.

OK! According to NNV and his sisya followers like the HKC Jaipur team -- PADA is "destroying the Golden Body of ISKCON" aka "Auschwitz for kids." Wait, what? Sorry! The children are telling me they experienced "Auchwitz for kids," which is supposedly simultaneously -- the Golden Body of ISKCON, or Golden Body of God. WTF? 

Someone told me that NNV borrowed his "Golden Body of ISKCON" idea from the Golden Calf Idol that was made in the Bible. As we recall, Moses melted it down and ground it into dust, and that is why they do not like PADA, we did what Moses did! Hee hee! 

Worse, the HKC Jaipur / Mathura Pati guys have been citing Hari Sauri saying me and Sulochana are drunks and sahajiyas, which means, only us drunks and sahajiyas know that Auschwitz for kids is not the Golden Idol Body of God. Sheesh! 

But yeah, actually even the real drunks here on Market Street know that Auschwitz for kids is not the Golden Body of God. Duh! The good news is, Mathura Pati admits to a mutual friend -- the reason he has to promote the cheer leaders of his homosexual and pedophile messiah program's "Saint Radhanath," and Hari Sauri writings, and in sum the Auschwitz for kids program's cheer leader defenders is, they oppose PADA. Yep, they oppose saving children from being abused and liberated from Auschwitz. And that is how this culture pervaded the society. They ALL opposed PADA. 

In other words -- they CONJOINTLY oppose PADA, which mean they oppose the people who save children from abuse, or even being raped. And even from committing suicide, which happened to a number of victims. Then someone recently asked me, is there any connection to these Mathura Pati type guys having sympathy for Hitler, and their sympathy for Saint Radhanath's defenders and evidently also the Auschwitz for kids program?  

Rupa Manjari is right, Naranarayan is a psychopath -- and an abuser. And he and many others were (and still are) inciting others to help the abuser agenda. And that is why the abuse has been so widespread and in fact, pervasive. 

When Kirtanananda would say, women can be mistreated, the New Vrndavana people would clap, laugh, cheer -- and essentially agree. No one stood up and said, NO!!!! Srila Prabhupada would never allow mistreating women. So there was a sort of culture of abuse being promoted, if not cheered on, but it was sort of subtle and went unnoticed -- until it all exploded later. By then it was too late, too many victims were now too far damaged, and the damage was not easy to repair at this stage.    

And that is why NNV opposed those of us exposing these abusing programs, because perps and their defenders are part of the whole process. And NNV is one of the abusers himself. And evidently, that is why the HKC Jaipur clan is promoting NNV's propaganda against us, as Sulochana said, birds of a feather flop together. But yeah, ask any town drunk, is Auschwitz for kids the Golden Body of God? Nopey!

No wonder people like Rupa Manjari say there are some who believe this is a Satanic child sacrifice cult, because, well pilgrims -- it seems like it is? "Auschwitz for kids" would be "The Golden Body of God" -- but for whom? Only -- for evil people in an evil Satanic cult. 

That is what many people tell PADA, because that is the growing consensus. They painted abuse as God's program, but it is Satan's. Anyway, Rupa Manjari is a rare case, she is a survivor who still has faith in Krishna, and we wish her all the best going forward. Unfortunately, many other victims of the regime lost faith, and we cannot actually blame them. 

But we as a society are collectively responsible for what happens to our citizens, and we collectively protected the Satanic exploiter program, to the peril of the victims, and to our own peril, because we all will be held accountable for what happens in our society. 

In short, many women were abused, many children were abused, many brahmanas were vilified and kicked out, and many people, if not most people -- objected to me complaining about it. And some of them wanted to kill me to defend their Golden Idol worship project. Thus many hands were involved in the conspiracy of making these events transpire. 

This did not happen in a vacuum. And the poisoning of Prabhupada is the root of this poison tree, which sprouted the Golden Idol worship. And the people who took the fruits of that tree were afflicted. And many still are. And that explains why so many people in the past kept confusing the Golden Body of God with Auschwitz, and many still do, they have been afflicted. The good news is, more people are agreeing with us, this is a Satanic influence and not God's.   

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com  

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PADA: Yes prabhu. The pattern is -- whistle blowers are oppressed, and victimizers and predators are protected. Satsvarupa said me and Sulochana are p*ison pens when we complained about the child mistreatment. He intentionally wanted to make us targets, and we were. Sulochana said "SDG has painted a bulls eye on our backs." 

I was saved because the FEDS were tapping their phones and they busted the three New Vrndavana enforcers who came to get me. SDG wanted us whistle blowers on child mistreatment eliminated, and a predator like Kirtanananda worshiped. In sum, he wanted me six feet in the grave and Kirtanananda on a big seat being worshiped as good as God. 

And we all know as a result, the children suffered. SDG was one of the foxes guarding the hen house, and the hens kept being mistreated -- and badly -- under his watch. No wonder he avoids being interviewed. Of course SDG victimized his own female disciple after breaking up her marriage, and causing her children to be unprotected and thus mistreated as well, he is a predator himself. But yeah, the former teacher from SDG school told me "every single kid in the SDG school was mistreated by SDG's predator pals." ys pd

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