Clarifying Henry Doktorski and PADA 11 24 25

 

Sorry, I am sticking with Them.

PADA: I have decided to make a clarification on my position on Henry Doktorski. Yes. He has done a lot of valuable work in recording the who, what, where and when in the post 1977 New Vrndavana history. And he nails the fact that Radhanath was involved in Sulochana's murder with facts and eye witness testimony. Very valuable.

At the same time, we all know Henry holds a big grudge against Srila Prabhupada, and maybe Krishna, for Krishna's giving us Srila Prabhupada, and hence our getting Krishna's words in Krishna's shastra. For example, he challenges me if I accept Srila Prahbupada's statements -- yes or no? Well the main statements of importance are, Krishna is God and we must treat all of His particles with love and respect. And we should never worship conditioned souls as gurus, which will cause chaos etc. Yes, I accept that.

But Henry will never stand in front of a Church holding a Bible, and challenging them if they accept odd ball statements from the Bible -- yes or no, because he has made a livelihood working for and with them, and hanging out at their Church. So Henry cherry picks which shastra he wants to attack and which to remain silent and acquiescing on. 

Mind you the Christian's mis-use of shastra has caused much more damage to the world than the misuse of the Vedas. Henry also does not seem to understand, there are good Christians, who would not harm others, and there are bad Christians who bomb baby hospitals, but that does not mean Jesus intended any of the bad. Nor would I blame Jesus for the bad, but there are lots of people who do curse at Jesus. And the Bible is full of things that might justify cruel behavior, but a good Christian will not employ that. Neither would I. 

Henry gleefully cites that Satya Vani shastra, ok the very same people who are angry that Krishna's words are being leaked out, and saving many hundreds or thousands of people -- like me -- from being disconnected from Krishna. And Srila Prabhupada's words are the words which connect me and others to Krishna. 

Read: these people are angry and upset someone like me is no longer eating cows, smoking cigarettes, and is now NOT going to rot in hell for millions of years and then taking birth as a cow to be slaughtered and eaten. That is where I'd be now without Krishna's teachings. 

In sum! They are envious of people being saved from hell and future suffering. OK they are envious people, and they direct or de facto wanted me to suffer, die and die over and over -- and be made into hamburgers -- because they resent that we have got Krishna in our lives from Srila Prabhupada. Ok what kind of people want me and others to go to hell and suffer? We know, it is the Satya Vanis and their promoters. 

Srila Prabhupada said they are envious of us, and they clearly are. Anyone who is upset people are being connected to Krishna is also not only envious of us, and Srila Prabhupada, but is also envious of Krishna because the words of Krishna are being distributed, and they hate that -- self evident -- because? 

They hate Krishna? 

Seems to be the case, as many folks told us. Why is Henry citing the people who self evidently hate someone who is distributing Krishna's words -- which are saving us fallen souls? And Henry says he does not know they are doing that, when they have plastered article after article after article attacking us, Srila Prabhupada, and Krishna's words being distributed by same? 

OK Henry is promoting the identical people who are attacking us, Srila Prabhupada, and who attacked Prabhupada's Prabhupada in the 1930s, because Srila Prabhupada is giving us Krishna. Which means yah -- Henry is also attacking Krishna because he is upset Krishna arranged our getting Him from Srila Prabhupada. 

They wanted us to stay rotting here in the material world -- and rot here forever, and they have been doing that since the 1930s -- when they were upset Srila Saraswati was liberating folks with Krishna's words. Anyone who gives Krishna to others -- needs to be attacked. OK this is called demoniac mentality, which makes sense even to an ordinary man. Blocking or discouraging the words of God is going to cause people to suffer and go to hell.  

Henry and Satya Vani try to paint Srila Prabhupada / the Vedas / Lord Krishna as purveyors of the idea that exploiting others is acceptable, or even desired. And thus women, children, elders and others can be exploited and mistreated because that is what the Krishna religion teaches. That is clearly not the impression me and probably hundreds of thousands of others have had from Srila Prabhupada's teachings. 

I never for an instant thought I had a license to mistreat anyone, never mind vulnerable women, children, seniors and etc. from the teachings of Krishna. Rather even today I carefully move black widow spiders around when I come across them in my garden, because my impression of the teachings of Krishna is -- that I cannot mistreat any other living thing. 

These other living beings are ALL parts of Krishna. And for me to harm them is forbidden and not allowed, never mind black widow spiders, but how much more care we need to take with actual devotees of Krishna. 

I never thought for an instant that Srila Prabhupada authorizes me, or anyone else, to harm any living being, especially Krishna's devotees, and especially the vulnerables like women and children. But Henry and his group seem to think that mistreating others is taught by Krishna or His religion. It isn't. I never thought for an instant that that is the teachings of Krishna. 

What happened then? Well when CBS news Jane Wallace went to New Vrndavana and filmed Kirtanananda covered with the hands of many boys, she then came here to San Francisco to meet me. She asked me -- is this Kirtanananda program pedophile's heaven? When I said "yes it is," she gasped in relief. She said thank God we met you, all the other Krishnas (OK the Henry and cohorts sabha) think this is some divine activity. 

Henry was in that divine activity illusion group, to my EXTREME PERIL. And to give him some rationalizing excuse, OK yes many of our God brothers ALSO were at New Vrndavana going along with all that. So he was misinformed about what the religion really stands for. Pedophile heaven is not authorized in the Vedas, it was authorized by Henry's program. 

So Henry got the idea that all this was taught by Srila Prabhupada. Nope. Never was. That was not what he said. What he actually said is, worship of conditioned souls is a path to the lower realms. Exploiting other beings drags a person to hell etc. 

Kirtanananda was a gay guy who did not like women, but that does not mean he represents Krishna. Nor did Srila Prabhupada ever tell me he does represent Krishna. Rather, Srila Prabhupada said he is a crazy man who belongs in Bellevue. And it was known to us that he challenged Srila Prabhupada a number of times, and he was a former Mott Street boy etc. I thought in 1972 that he is envious of Srila Prabhupada, he is challenging, and he is therefore never to be advertised as Krishna's pure devotee successor. Never believed that for a second.

And Kirtanananda was envious and so were other leaders. And so was Judas at the time of Jesus. To think a Mott Street boy could become God's successor is 100% smoke and mirrors illusion, plain and simple. And Henry and others drank that kool aid, and now he holds a grudge against others for his being fooled, when he is the person who made these choices. We said all along, this is THEIR (Henry's) wrong choice. 

It means Kirtanananda represents himself. Unfortunately many people thought Kirtanananda was Krishna's representative, but he wasn't. Ever. So now Henry is on a campaign to discredit Srila Prabhupada, and prove that the Krishna religion promotes exploiting and mistreating, and Mott Street fools for gurus. Of course Henry would never speak a peep about the Christians, who created most of the actual exploiting in this world. He has unlimited tolerance for other religion's exploiting.

But to say that the Krishna religion wanted or licensed exploiting is simply, misrepresenting the teachings. Illicit sex leads a person to hell, that is the actual teachings and we all know that. But then Henry finds these Satya Vani people, who say the teaching of the Krishna religion is that we have a license to exploit females, and he says they are presenting the truthful history of all this. No the history is, they despised us and misrepresented Krishna's actual teachings as a licence to exploit.    

So in other words Henry and many others got cheated by the GBC gurus into thinking the Krishna religion teaches exploiting is valid, and then he blames the religion for the subsequent exploiting. No, the religion teaches that we cannot step on an ant, that is very sinful, never mind we cannot step on others. 

In any case I simply can not believe Henry did not know about the Satya Vanis. They openly hate us, hate Srila Prabhupada, and they hate Krishna -- because people are now becoming Krishna devotees thanks to Krishna sending us Srila Prabhupada. And all that is plain as day by reading their materials for 15 seconds. 

Henry thus knows they hate us, hate Srila Prabhupada and hate us having Krishna, because that is what they are all about, and everyone else who looks at their stuff knows the same thing. And we knew that from our time in India, we are the low class Western, mlecchas, hippies and all that. OK but we are all parts of Krishna too, or aren't we?

And others all tell me the same thing. They despise us, despise Srila Prabhupada, and despise Krishna for sending Srila Prabhupada to us, thus over riding their caste and birth claim to have a monopoly on Krishna, as their personal money making business.

Henry was really gloating that he found these Satya Vani people who hate us, and then he says he will ask them about it and get back to me. There is nothing to ask? They despise us, and if someone is promoting them, they are joining the despising us team. Or they despised us all along and just finally the real colors came out with it?   

PADA TO HENRY:

Thanks prabhu. I have already made a detailed account of my gripes with their group on the blog. As I pointed out already, these people were against Srila Saraswati -- and Srila Prabhupada said these "saints by birth" lines, such as the Satya Vanis, were trying to kill his guru. They believe in taking birth in a family of the descendents of Lord Chaitanya makes them saints, hence they hold a grudge against Srila Saraswati in the 1930s for bringing in "lower caste" people, and later they objected to us dirty mleccha Western people taking to the religion when we were in India in 1971. 

They need to keep their "saints by birth" program going so they can exploit people as a "saints by birth" business, and therefore our competition needs to be checked. We are giving out Krishna wholesale and that is intolerable for the people trying to exploit and monopolize His message. OK they are envious of us and Krishna and they are using Krishna, as Srila Prabhupada says, as a family business. Of course there are many other "saints by birth" programs in India, and they always opposed our teachings even in the late 1800s, we are breaking their monopoly on Krishna and so the object to us.  

OK they are racists as well as haters of us people who are getting Krishna. They have a business from their caste and birth program and we are a threat to their livelihood. Prabhupada told us they are dangerous, so avoid them, and they are dangerous, just look at how they hate us on their posts. Are you not looking at their posts? They HATE OUR GUTS.

I already explained that. In short, they are dangerous racists because people who object to their caste or birth monopoly can become targets, and Srila Saraswati was a target. And Srila Prabhupada may have been a target, because there is a rumor they encouraged the poisoning. I would not doubt that for one second, they hate us. And the way they spread hate of us Prabhupada followers makes us targets. And that is their intent, they want to suppress us, because they have to contain Krishna only in their little business arrangement. They are sort of the Pharisees of our religion.

OK! They hate our guts, and would be happy to have us eliminated. I think you did not get the message, they hate our guts. Hate means, we can be treated with violence, and it is shocking you do not know that by now. In addition, Jagadananda and no doubt the others there knew about the 1980 - 2025 molesting, and they are attacking us and not the regime. Sorry, there is no good excuse for covering this up, you can ask them all day long, but we know the answer already.

They are helping the regime by attacking us. And if you are on their side by promoting them, that would make you an accomplice. But you never complain about bad Bible statements, and they never complain about the regime level molesting, because you both have a vested interest in not doing so. You only attack soft targets. And that enables the ongoing child abuse.   

My friends and me discussed this at length. And they summed it up pretty good. Henry supported the New Vrndavana people who were your worst haters and they were trying to kill you. Now he is supporting another group of your haters. And if they could kill you, they would. And they evidently wanted to kill our guru and his guru in their previous iteration. Prabhupada told us, these caste and birth saints tried to kill his guru so we must beware of them. Then Henry promotes them?  

Our friends said, either he never learned anything, or he knows they are racist haters and he is running with them, or he was at one time repenting but now he is going back to supporting your haters, he is going backwards. 

I think our friends have it really figured out. They say, these envious people have always been out to eliminate you by supporting your haters, and they still are. Nothing has changed with these people. That is their observation, and I could not disagree. You seem to keep forgetting what I repeated over and over and over THEY HATE ME, and they SUPPORT MOLESTERS and DEVIANT samadhis with their silence. They are evil people, and therefore, supporting them implicates anyone who does so. I hope this helps. ys pd 

Dear Henry prabhu, It looks like we have gone full circle here. Previously you supported GBC people who hated my guts and wanted to kill me. Then you started to promote the Satya Vani people, who ALSO hate Srila Prabhupada, and equally hate me, and said we are dirty contaminated mlecchas, to make us targets. Lets be real here, these Satya Vanis hate my guts just as bad as the GBC people, or worse, and if they had the potential to take me out, they would. They hate my guts. 

It seems you tend to find people who hate my guts? The LA police said to me -- these GBC people HATE YOUR GUTS and they will KILL you. The Satya Vanis equally also hate my guts, you evidently do not see that, or what results from that, but you didn't previously either. They are a racist hate mongering group that protects pedophiles, and they are against me for self evident reasons. 

It is not evident to you, and that is the whole problem. You are my friend, ok, but you also tend to run in circles of people who hate my guts and would kill us. Srila Saraswati said these caste lineage people WILL KILL ME, and they will also KILL us little peanuts equally. You are attracted to them, second time around. 

This is full circle, we ended where we began. You don't know about them? What they say is self evident -- THEY HATE OUR GUTS, and they have since the past maybe 130 years. You are not attracted to them because they are interesting, you are attracted to them because THEY HATE OUR GUTS. And Srila Saraswati said they would kill us, that means also me. You can see how they write about us, it is not a secret what they are all about. You are not aware of this because, you sympathize more with them than me. That is simply the way this looks. In any case, for you to promote my haters is not the way to make friends with me, and no one should be surprised if I react negatively. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

November 23, 1967: On this date in history 58 years ago, Bhaktivedanta Swami writes to Umapati, “We shall silently pray for them [Kirtanananda and Hayagriva] to Krishna and shed tears for them for our inability to save them.” To learn more about this topic, see "Gold, Guns and God,” Vol. 1, p. 261.

But I should not pick on Henry too much. He is a victim of the overall system. I have all sorts of other haters like BV Damodar who was blasting me for pointing out that Narayan Maharaja was Tamal's bucket boy. 

Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur / Mathura Pati are infuritated I am not helping them promote Saint Radhanath's cheer leaders etc. Lots of haters out there! HKC Jaipur's Prahlad actually said he was going to get the GBC goons to come and take me out, because these pedophile messiah's people also endorse murder of dissenters. They simply cannot tolerate having children liberated from Auschwitz for kids, and someone just now told me -- no wonder they love Hitler.  

In any case, I decided to go with Krishna, and let the haters figure out whatever they want to, and that is all there is to it. I feel very confident that Krishna is God, and I am doing the right thing trying to be His servant, although I have to admit to being a highly imperfect one presently. 

But I have faith He will pull me up to Him sooner or later. And I think the people who hate to see His words being spread around, actually hate Him, and will thus suffer a short, sharp shock in a lower planet. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and that is mine. 

ys pd 

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BVKS Video / Sva Diksha / Vasanta Gita / Good Idea! 11 23 25

 

PADA: OK all of a sudden the BVKS people are realizing Hrdayananda is not giving the real version of the Krishna religion. Bhakti Vikas swami did not know that the whole time? What rock has he been hiding under? Hrdayananda was a huge supporter of Kirtanananda, Bhavananda, and the whole false guru crew. 

He was giving me snarky evil eye looks when we were having his program sued for $400,000,000 while we were on Watseka. The founder fathers of the illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's club, that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills people has only one problem. They are "not following shastra." Ya think so! 

Sorry, thousands of people were banned, some were beaten, perhaps thousands of kids were molested, ISKCON was sued into bankruptcy, some people were killed, but that is not the real issue! Anyway it looks like the finger pointing is getting more severe with them now attacking each other as the real problem, when all of them combined made this mess. 

The good news is, BVKS finally realized Hrdayananda is bogus, the bad news is, it is too little too late to save their thousands of victims, the bankrupting of ISKCON, and emptying out ISKCON and making it into a ghost town. Mind you Lokanath swami said ISKCON is an empty ghost town in 1988, that means they all knew this was happening the whole time, it has only got more empty subsequently. Taking down Hrdayananda is a start, but you'd have a lot more weeds to pull before the place gets purified. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com 

Asociación Vaisnavas de España

We protect children, not predators! A call to responsibility at ISKCON.

Over the years, serious concerns have been raised about Bhakti Vikā Aa Swami (BVKS), who has given respect and honour to devotees with proven histories of child abuse, while the safety of Vaisnavas children has come to the forefront.
One example is Kripa Kara das (KKD), Australian disciple of Srila Prabhupada. In the 1990s he was convicted in court for sexually abusing two children and served a prison sentence.

de The ISKCON Child Protection Office (CPO) imposed a lifetime restriction on him, prohibiting him from performing any service related to children. You can read the case document here:

CPO Archive: https://drive.google.com/.../1OXeRZJFXpQQ9PcgZLt4.../view...
Despite this, in January 2025, KKD travelled with children from Salem Gurukula to Jagannath Puri (25 hours), clearly breaking these restrictions. Surprisingly, BVKS presented him as an “honorable and trustworthy guest” at Salem’s ISKCON temple. 🎥 Evidence in video

This is not an isolated case — in the past, BVKS also defended Bhakti Vidya Purna Swami, and Kesava Bharati, other confirmed abusers.

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SVA DIKSHA UPDATE

Hare Krisna Prabhu 

(This is just my opinion)

I have also heard or read about sva diksa, but as far as I remember, it can only be used in extreme cases. Perhaps they said at one time that Purujit Das or someone else initiated himself in this way because he couldn't find a credible person who could properly initiate him.

If I remember correctly, in this case, there is the so-called Eka diksa initiation.
But actually, it doesn't matter if the person or soul surrenders at Srila Prabhupada's lotus feet and follows his instructions or teachings, it's the same thing.

As it is written, we cannot check or assess the degree of surrender or spiritual advancement of another person or soul because we cannot see it. Srila Prabhupada says it is like eating. Only the person who is eating knows whether he is satisfied. We do not know how satisfied he is. The same is true in spiritual life.

We cannot know whether another person is properly initiated in a particular case.
Only Srila Prabhupada and Lord Krishna know this.

This is Madhusudana Prabhu's share

(This is my question Why does he say that you invented the ritvik initiation system?!)

Sva-diksa haunts PADA.

Puranjana once again demonstrates either an inability or an unwillingness to understand a simple matter. He deliberately confuses an eternal principle with a specific modern system in order to present any criticism of the latter as an attack on the former. 

This is dishonest.

PADA: OK well Madhusudana started talking about Krishna Kant and the ritviks idea from 20 years ago, but worship of the pure devotee did not start 20 years ago? It started trillions of years ago and the ritviks promote the trillions of years idea that has been in effect for trillions of years, worship the pure devotee. 

And there were brahmana priests (ritviks) also trillions of years ago. To say that trillions of years is a modern idea is simply false. Krishna Himself associated with Sudama, a brahamana (ritvik), and this was not 20 years ago. 

He seems to confuse 20 years and trillions of years over and over? There is a difference.

1. About "trillions of years" and "worship of the pure devotee." No one disputes that worship of the pure devotee is an eternal principle. I object to how he and his system embody it.

PADA: Well the idea of Srila Prabhupada is that there has to be an organized body or group of devotees all preaching the same thing, some form of international organization. In the sva-diksha idea there is no leadership or group, which means independent mavericks with no structure. That won't work. 

There has to be some form of administration to manage even a small temple mandir program. There is a head or leader, there are people who help, that is always the case even if we wanted to manage a shoe store at the mall.  

Eternal principle: Worship Srila Prabhupada, follow his teachings, accept him as a spiritual master.

PADA: So when Srila Prabhupada says form a GBC and organization, we do not accept? 

But there needs to be people promoting and teaching his idea. This is amazing, the books will sva print themselves and sva jump into people's hands by magic. Nope, we need people to make that happen. Madhusudana never explains how the books will manifest and be distributed by their sva-self? Who will do the worship if there is no way to get them to the platform of worship? 

His system: Mandatory ritual, performed by "official representatives" (ritviks), who build a hierarchy and control around it.

PADA: I never said any diksha ritual is mandatory, this is false. Krishna consciousness is voluntary and nothing can be made mandatory, nor did I ever say ritvik diksha is mandatory. 

Of course Madhusudana wants a society where nothing is mandatory, so he will have a Buddhist, Satanist, Muslim, and Krishna devotee in his temple because worship of Srila Prabhupada will not be mandatory. That sounds like a zoo?

There is ZERO evidence we ever said there is a mandatory ritvik ritual at any time anywhere. We never even ask people who is their diksha guru, or even if the have one, when they write questions to PADA. We do not care about the formal ritual process, thus we never ask if they had a formal ritual or not. 

Nor did we ever ask Madhusudana who is his formal diksha guru, or was he initiated or not. To say we made this mandatory is -- a lie. We said that acceptance of Srila Prabhupada as the guru is required in the Krishna religion, in that sense mandatory, but we never said that would mean mandatory formal initiation -- and he never quotes me saying that at any time. 

I never, ever said any formal ritvik ritual is mandatory, and he is making this up wholesale. I did say that some people should get initiated for deity worship, that is another topic.

By criticizing GBC 2.0, I am not criticizing the principle of worshiping Prabhupada. I criticize your attempt to replace principle with a system that becomes an end in itself.

PADA: Worshiping Srila Prabhupada is GBC 2.0? No, that is the process for eternal time. Worshiping oneself as sva diksha is not even mentioned? A person cannot sva-absorb their own sins. That is false. 

They need to have a connection to a pure devotee and not their sva self. There is no such thing as a person absorbing their owns sins via sva-diksha, that is not the process. Nor is sva-diksha mentioned anywhere. Nor would it work, sva absorbing one's own sins is a myth. We need to be connected to a pure devotee, either formal or informal. And the ritviks are making this happen for people.  

2. About "sva-diksa" and a "recent invention."

He shouts that "sva-diksa" is a recent invention. 

PADA: Yep, Srila Prabhupada never mentions where sva diksha is authorized. Where is this stated by Srila Prabhupada? It does not exist, Madhusudana invented it.

And the system of "official ritvik representatives" prescribed in the "The Final Order"—is that an eternal principle from Krsna? No, it's an administrative schedule created for the specific circumstances of 1977. He made a new eternal religion out of it.

PADA: Srila Prabhupada wanted ritvik initiations to continue for the deity pooja, and he said that, we will need initiated brahmanas for the pooja. Madhusudana does not even want to follow the order to have trained and initiated poojaris for the deities. So after 1977, we will have no brahmanas for the pooja? Where did Srila Prabhupada say there will be no more initiated poojaris?  

Sorry, deities require trained and initiated people, that is the order of the acharya. Worshiping the deity with trained brahmanas is also not new, such programs have gone of for millions and trillions of years. Worshiping Krishna with brahmanas is a new arrangement? No, there are temples where brahmanas worship the deity that are thousands of years old, this is not new whatever. NOT having proper brahmanas is what is new.

"Sva-diksa" is simply a term describing the original and direct act of accepting Prabhupada as guru. 

PADA: That is not what the term means, sva means oneself, and diksha means initiation, sva-diksha is self diksha and not diksha from a pure devotee. Even CHAT GPT agrees. A person cannot absorb their own sins, that is false. 

This is not "mayavada," but the essence of the process, which he is trying to envelop with bureaucratic procedures.

PADA: So we should not have training for poojaris because that is bureaucratic? There has to be some standardized process for uniform deity worship in many places. 

3. About "hard work" and "sva-printing" of books.

He's like a broken record. I've said it a hundred times: books are printed by devotees, not by the "ritvik system." The fact that some of these "devotees" are ritviks doesn't mean their system is the only one capable of this. Once again, he's misrepresenting the particular as the general.

PADA: But you have no "bureaucratic system" or any system for book printing, book distribution, or making temples, making devotees, or making anything else that the ritviks are doing. Nor do we see any evidence your program are doing these things. 

And yes, fighting pedophilia and book falsification is noble. But that doesn't give him a monopoly on the truth or make his ritvik ideology holy. 

PADA: But if there is no organized process, then there is no organized means of fighting large scale court cases and etc. Madhusudana could not take a used car salesman to court, never mind the entire ISKCON. Yeah, the ritvik ideology is that we need to organize to take on big issues. A person who cannot sue a used car salesman should not advise others on the topic of child abuse court cases. 

One can simultaneously support him in exposing the GBC's crimes and criticize his dogmatic system. 

PADA: But court cases can cost millions of dollars, and so can book printing, making temples etc. How are the sva-diksha maverick individuals going to raise any organized funds?  

His attempts to connect the two are pure blackmail.

Bottom line: He still hasn't answered the main question: why should a living, direct connection with Prabhupada through his teachings be mediated by his system of "official representatives"? 

PADA: Why should Srila Prabhupada be presented as the acharya by us as his representatives? Well because no one else will do that? We have to do that, the ordinary people will not sva get a book and sva learn the process without people giving that book and process to the people. 

We cannot promote anything without our own acting as a representive of that process. We are going to have a religion, with no one representing the religion? It won't work. 

We cannot even sell one shoe at our shoe store with no one representing the store? We are going to have a store with no one to represent the store? The shoes will sva sell themselves? This sound like a person who is smoking too much PCP? The shoes will sva sell themselves, no need to anyone to run the store? 

Until he answers this, all his talk about "trillions of years" is simply a smokescreen to conceal the construction of a new spiritual bureaucracy. I've ended this pointless circle. My path is to delve deeper into Prabhupada's teachings and help those who seek a direct connection with him, without intermediaries who demand “official” status.

PADA: OK so he does not want us or himself to be an intermediary for Srila Prabhupada, none is needed. Srila Prabhupada will make devotees without any helpers, so what is he doing preaching on FB acting as a representative himself? 

And what devotees are going to print the books, when the only people printing them now are the ritviks. Who are these non-existing book printing devotees? OK they do not exist. It is all phantasm.

Yes Srila Prabhupada said a hundred times HIS devotees will print HIS books, but Madhusudana has no devotees or printing going on? We do. He has made himself the head director of his own movement, so he is the self appointed bureau chief head of his sva-diksha process. He has made himself the bureau chief of his own movement. 

He says no leaders are needed, and then he leads his own self made sva-diksha movement. And we went after the child mistreatment, but when we mention that he says this is blackmail. No, we fixed the issue at least to some extent, he did not. 

He is black mailing the victims by claiming our help is not needed, the victims should sva save themselves. Sorry, telling children victims to sva save themselves is = what the GBC plan has been. It does not help victims, sorry, we have to act. And we did, he didn't. 

In any case, no one has ever been able to make a religion work that has no need for leaders, no one to print and give out books and train people etc. People are always needed for that, and a bureaucracy is required to organize these things, as has been ordered by the acharya.   

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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VASANTA'S GITA PRINTING PROJECT  

Hare Krishna.

Dear Puranjana Prabhu,

You have posted a link to a YouTube video by Vasanta. For over 30 years much of my practice has been in the area of the law of tax-exempt organizations. That Gofundme page shows the organizer as an individual, not a tax-exempt organization.

I fear that many devotees would be giving donations thinking that the funds are, in fact, going, at least indirectly, to a bonafide 501(c)(3) organization. On the website of the purported organization is a statement:

---Start of Excerpts---
TAX DEDUCTABLE [sic]
508(c)1(a)

Lotus Ministry is a humanitarian faith-based charity. We are defined by the IRS as a tax-exempt organization under revenue code 508(c)1(a). Our EIN is 92-1986116. Donations are tax-deductible.
----End of Excerpts----

https://www.lotus-ministry.org (at the bottom)

If, in fact, donations were tax-deductible, we would find that with a search on the IRS website through https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/ with that EIN - 921986116. However, this morning, I put in that EIN and the result was, "Your search did not return any results." A screenshot showing that is at https://i.vgy.me/2EMeUi.png

I fear that Vasanta may not, in fact, use the funds for charitable purposes, but, instead, for his own living expenses and may even announce soon that he was not able to reach the $25,000 goal and, therefore, he is keeping the appeal for funds up (with no assurances where the existing amount is). 

I believe that you would want to remove the link on your page to his YouTube video and even also publish a retraction (unless Vasanta provides to you a copy of a determination letter from the IRS that his trust is treated as a 501(c)(3) organization.)

There are some exceptions -- organizations are not required to have such a determination letter if they are:

---Start of Excerpts---

(A) churches, their integrated auxiliaries, and conventions or associations of churches, or

(B) any organization which is not a private foundation (as defined in section 509(a)) and the gross receipts of which in each taxable year are normally not more than $5,000.

----End of Excerpts----

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/508


Vasanta's website does refer to that subsection (A), but all evidence is that his trust is not a church, integrated auxiliary of a church, or a convention or association of a church. For IRS purposes, the definition of "church" is much more limited compared to the dictionary definition of the term. For IRS exemption purposes, the organization must have a public place of worship with a congregation of persons who are not related. For an extensive discussion of the issue of churches see the IRS discussions, citing court cases, starting around page 11 of https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/eotopicb03.pdf


In addition, that EIN is not shown after a search of the California Charities Registry, through https://rct.doj.ca.gov/Verification/Web/Search.aspx?facility=Y


Charitable trust registrations are done with Form CT‑1 which is available at https://tinyurl.com/y4hwfwdv and it has on the top right of page 2, "Registration with the Attorney General is required within thirty days of receipt of assets."

M dasa

PADA: These are all good points and many questions arise here. Yeah I don't know if Vasanta has any legally authorized charity program, and thus he and his handlers should give us a full explanation of what they are doing. In the meantime I am removing his video until we get his status resolved. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I think his heart is in the right place, but his legal status might not be. ys pd  

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GOOD IDEA!

Das Goravani

Current events and issues in society, personal problems, etc., do not matter compared to developing Krishna Consciousness. Issues etc., are temporary and fleeting, and bog the soul down in mundane consciousness which leads to rebirth in the material world, again, whereas Krishna Consciousness leads to returning to our Spiritual Home which is eternal and free from suffering. One is clearly more important than the other. Krishna Consciousness has no impediments, nothing can stop it, it is simply a switch you flip inside your consciousness, turning on the desire to serve Krishna which can be as simple as chanting his names or simply remembering him. 

No matter what your situation, you can engage in Krishna Consciousness. Doing so is the perfection of life. In other words, you can make your life perfect from any position, any station in life. It is not dependent on any particular material circumstances. The witch Maya, Illusion, wants us to care about mundane affairs of self, or state, etc., and be distracted from Krishna's service and remembrance. 

But don't give in. Don't do it. Don't be in illusion. Your life is very temporary here and it is passing. Time is to be used to remember Krishna and perfect your love for Him. Don't waste time. It is precious in this regard. Taking birth here again is no joke, this world is fully of suffering with very little pleasure. This world is designed to push you towards God, towards Krishna. That is the purpose of suffering, to dissuade us from material attachment and to goad us towards Krishna. 

The little pleasure we get from material life does not deserve all the worship we give it. All opulences flow forth from Krishna. There is so much more opulence and enjoyment in Spiritual Life actually, here and in the Spiritual World. Make it the aim of your every moment. All your moments will pass soon. Make them all full of Krishna, God. Go back home to the spiritual world after this life. So don't get caught up in Trump and all the issues. Sure, you have to perform a role in this material world, which can include a stand on the issues, but keep it a light thing.. don't let it all overwhelm you. Don't let it distract you from what is really important, which is learning to love Krishna fully. Hare Krishna.

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EPSTEIN UPATE

President Trump said he will no longer support Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, calling her “wacky” and a “traitor” to the GOP, making a dramatic break with a longtime loyalist who has increasingly criticized the president and her party’s leadership in recent weeks. The president said he’s withdrawing his endorsement of Greene and will support a primary challenge against her “if the right person runs” in her deep-red northern Georgia district.

Greene, on Saturday, said in a post on X that she never thought that “fighting to release the Epstein files, defending women who were victims of rape, and fighting to expose the web of rich powerful elites would have caused this, but here we are.” The congresswoman also said later Saturday that she has been receiving threats since Trump began openly criticizing her.

PADA: Oh no pilgims, the wheels are coming off more and more.

Deep realisation in spiritual life is important as that helps us to see things as they are. pic.twitter.com/3xy5jI2gf6

— Madhu Pandit Dasa (@madhupanditdasa) November 23, 2025

J Dasa Comment / For the Ladies / Henry Comment / GBC Warnings 11 22 25

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Hare Krishna Prabhu,
I tried to submit a comment on your blog, but received the message "Only 

Members Can Post" How can I become a member?

My comment was ""People who advertise pedophile cover ups are also criminals". Are you referring to virtue signalling or perhaps even "poverty porn" where the potential prosecution witnesses in ISKCON Child Abuse cases are horrified by the prospects of excommunication and would therefore prefer to support the victims by mental masturbation in the comfort and of their own Kindle Libraries and Youtube Subscriptions?"


Perhaps you and I could both be accused of the same tactics in as much as valuable time which could be invested in public prosecution or private lawsuits is being wasted on endless online debates. Having stood as a witness in court against ISKCON and having submitted statements to police in two other accusations of abuse I see your practical advocacy as a beacon of inspiration. Is there not a danger that I am getting pulled into a powerful vortex of criticism and thus shipwrecked in Maya's lap (matriphilia)....

Ys Javatvasi dasa

PADA: Yes, people can write their comments to my e-mail address. Various people send me e-mail comments all the time. They should include the title of the post they want their comments to show up on. The open ended blog comments got clogged with 10,000 spam messages daily from GBC people, so it sort of got messed up. I had to make it members only. 

This is a good comment, thanks. ys pd 

angel108b@yahoo.com

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MESSAGE TO THE LADIES (Natalie Raw)

Natalie Raw

You are not a toy. You are not decoration. You are not a product for the world to consume. You are a spirit in a human body, here to awaken, to evolve, to purify, and to rise into the highest version of yourself. 

And the world has done everything in its power to make you forget that. They want you painted, filtered, poisoned, numbed, distracted, and disconnected from your soul—because a woman who knows her worth cannot be controlled.

So hear this clearly:

Stop sacrificing your time, your health, and your spirit to an image that was forced on you. Hours spent painting your face could be hours spent finding the beauty that never washes off.

Money spent on toxins, injections, and products could be invested into clean foods, a clear mind, a strong body, and a pure heart. Energy wasted on trends, brands, and fake “confidence” could be directed toward discovering the real you—the one buried under years of conditioning.

Before you let society shape you into a masturbation prop for men who don’t even respect themselves. Before you inject, implant, or alter your body to attract people who don’t deserve access to your energy. 

Stop. Breathe. Look within. Because the real glow, the real magnetism, the real sex appeal—it never comes from chemicals, surgeries, or designer clothing.
It comes from the inside. From a woman who is clean, grounded, self-respecting, and spiritually awake. You’ve been lied to about what “sexy” is.

Porn told you. Media told you. The system told you. All so you would stay insecure, dependent, and disconnected from your true power. But you are not their puppet.

You are a woman with a soul. A woman capable of becoming a force of purity, clarity, strength, and wisdom. Choose that version of yourself. Not the version they profit from. Not the version they manipulate you into becoming. Not the version they use and discard.

Choose the woman your future children will look up to— the mother who is clean in body, mind, and soul. The woman who leads by example, who walks with purity in her heart, and who rises above the filth of a world trying to drag her down.
Reclaim your essence. Rebuild your standards. Purify your body. Awaken your spirit. You are worth the effort.

You are worth the transformation. You are worth becoming the woman you were always meant to be. Go against the world. Find yourself. Rise.

PADA: Yup.

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MMD: Henry Doktorski 

MMD: Henry is presenting the Satya Vanis -- only one reason, they hate Srila Saraswati and Srila Prabhupada. And us. Not minor scripture difference. They hate the other Hare Krishnas for 130 years ... or more. And demonize us ... to make us targets. Just like GBC demonizes and hates us. They hate other Hare Krishnas ... namely us ... and that is why Henry promoted them. They hate our guts. They hate our Prabhupada and his Prabhupada. I always wonder if they have a hand in poisoning Prabhupada? The fact we have to wonder? 

Henry knows very well ... the Satya Vanis are haters of us Hare Krishnas, in exact particular ... us Prabhupada Hare Krishnas. They demonize other groups to make them suffer ... and be targets for hate. Like us. Or maybe they encourage ... poisoning? Sure enough, Henry never challenges his Christian brothers on their scripture controversy! Another hypocrite.  

He is like a closet Christian attacking us Hare Krishnas ... just as they did in India in 1840s. Christian shastra is full of controversy and we all know it. But does he attack Christian shastra controversies? Never. That would harm his business ... of working for them. Henry is playing both ends against the middle, middle being himself. A self promoter ... using Christians and Krishnas ... without being loyal to either. What about the Bible controversy? 

“You shall not leave alive anything that breathes. But you shall utterly destroy them, the Hittite and the Amorite, the Canaanite and the Perizzite, the Hivite and the Jebusite, as the Lord your God has commanded you.” Deuteronomy 20:16-17

This episode isn’t a one-off. Elsewhere in the Old Testament we read that:

God destroys all life in a flood (Genesis 6:17).

God causes brimstone and fire to rain down on Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19:24-25).

God commands the destruction of the city of Jericho (Joshua 6:21).

God commands the destruction of the people of Amalek - including men, women, child, infant and animals (1 Samuel 15:3).

In the power of God’s Spirit, Solomon killed 30 “innocent” men (Judges 14:19).

What is jarring about these episodes is not simply that God allows this violence to occur, but that God is the commanding and empowering authority behind these violent acts. These violent incidents prompt a number of questions about God and his actions, including:

How can God (especially a God who the Bible elsewhere describes as loving), command the killing of people and even entire nations?

Even if (as the Bible describes) these violent acts are punishment, how can putting people to death be a just punishment?

Why did God command that even children be killed?

How can God condemn murder in the 10 Commandments (Exodus 20:13), and then command it elsewhere?

Does God endorse ethnic cleansing? 

Explains it all. Henry is with the stoning people to death shastra, not us. And he is promoting people who would stone us to death ... or poison people ... if they could. Srila Saraswati said that exactly ... my enemies will kill me if they can. That means the Satya Vanis, they hated him ... and still do. And they hate us ... and would stone us to death ... if they had the means. 

He is making pretend he is with us Hare Krishnas when he is really more with the hate mongers groups against us. Like Satya Vani. Simply spreading hateful for 130 years. Satya Vanis ... hateful, spiteful, vindictive, back stabbing, demonizing us, just like what stories happens in the Bible. The hateful get others stoned to death. They hate us because ... we love Krishna. Not new at all! 

Same with GBC, they too would rather have us stoned to death. And GBC and Satya Vanis hide child molesting. Both agree on the worst area possible. 

Henry cannot attack controversies in the Bible, it would harm his Christian money making business. Promoting well known Prabhupada haters means? He is more with the haters than us. No one should be fooled otherwise. When are we going to hear about Bible controversy? Never, this is his money $$$ bread and butter. What a hypocrite! Good part is ... he really revealed that he prefers the people who hate our guts ... over us. And the people who would stone us ... to death.  

MMD (full name witheld so not to get stoned to death by these freaks).

PADA: I think Henry is learning things as he goes along. He clearly made a mistake promoting the Satya Vani people without consulting me first, as he probably knows by now. But the fact he raised them in the first place is a red flag, agreed. ys pd

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DETERMINED: 

"We have to be determined to go back to Godhead, to Kṛṣṇa, where going nobody will come to this condemned place. One should know that this is a condemned place. Unless one is fully convinced that this is a place, condemned, one cannot make progress. If he is satisfied with this condemned condition... Just like these Bowery Street men, they are lying on the footpath. They are satisfied. 

Condemned condition, but they are satisfied. We should not be satisfied in that way. That is very wretched condition. So we are all in wretched condition under the grip of material nature, always suffering threefold miseries. So we should be conscious. Unless we are conscious about this fact, then our human life is spoiled. They say that you spiritualists, you are very pessimistic. Yes. He should be pessimistic. 

There is no question of being optimistic. Where is the optimistic view? So unless one becomes very much pessimistic of this material world... Actually, they are, but they want to forget. Somebody is trying to forget it by liquor. Somebody is trying to forget by LSD, and somebody is marijuana, or gañja. But that forgetfulness will not save you. You have to actually forget it, that "This is a condemned place," and you cannot forget this unless you have got ideal place before you. 

Therefore this śruti-pramāṇa, the Vedic knowledge, will give you: "Here is your ideal place, Kṛṣṇa. Come back to Kṛṣṇa. Try for it. Try your best for this." That is the life. That is human life. And unless one is not conscious to this platform, he is defeated. Parābhavas tāvad abodha-jātaḥ. We are born ignorant. And if we are educated more, more, more into the platform of ignorance, then our life is all defeat, parābhava. Parābhavas tāvad abodha-jāto yāvan na jijñāsata ātma-tattvam.

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srila Prabhupada, Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta, Madhya-līlā 20.318-329 -- New York, December 22, 1966

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WARNINGS ON LEADERS FAILURES

“The opportunity is always there, just as we are offering so many ways to become Krsna conscious, but if you don’t take the opportunity, what can I do? That is purposeful negligence of duty.“
Letter to Jagadisa, 7-9-1970

“Now it is practically in your hands to finish and push on what I have started. I am now getting all respect and honor, so now you must preserve that standard and not dishonor me.”
Letter to Bhagavän, 12-10-71

“Unfortunately, if my disciples do not take my guidance, what can I do? By bad association it so happens, so I remain silent. I see the pricks of mäyä.”
Letter to Krsna däs, 9-9-72

“But if you all, my right-hand men, are doing things without consulting me and making such big, big changes within our society without getting my opinion and the opinion of all the G.B.C. members, then what can I do? I am so much perplexed why you all had done this.”
Letter to Rüpänuga, 8-4-72

“This fighting spirit will destroy everything, but what can I do? You American and European boys are trained up in this fighting attitude.”
Letter to Bali Mardan, 9-18-72

“So, I have given you the guiding principles; it is not that I must be consulted with every small detail. That is the business of the in-charge, but, if no one is there who can manage in the right way, what can I do?”
Letter to Bhänutänya, 11-18-72

“You have committed a very grave error. I am depending on you leaders for the future of our Society, yet there is all this interest in illicit sex life. This is causing me heartache, worrying how things will go on. What can I do? I have given you all instructions, why you cannot follow them?”
Letter to Kaliya Krsna, 3-31-73

“It comes as a shock to me that you have stepped down from your duties as president of our Hong Kong center. Your move is not satisfactory to me, but what can I do?”
Letter to Bhürijana, 5-3-74

“I made the G.B.C. to give me relief, but, if you do like this, then where is the relief? It is anxiety for me. This is the difficulty, that, as soon as one gets power, he becomes whimsical and spoils everything. What can I do?”
Letter to Hansadutta, 9-12-74

“ . . . but, if Tamäl Krsna flies 10,000 miles to lodge some complaint against Jayatértha, what can I do? If you all leaders cannot work together, then how can you expect the others to cooperate with you?”
Letter to Rämesvara, 9-15-75

“The Miami situation is a great discredit for us, because we have made such a bad impression on the neighbors that they have had us kicked out. This is because of nasty management.”
Letter to Satsvarüpa, 6-4-75

Reply to Henry Doktorski 11 21 25

HENRY DOKTORSKI

In his November 20, 2025 blog post, our friend Puranjana has accused: “Anyway yeah, Henry has officially started to promote the pedophile rings and webs cover ups, but that means, he has not learned much from doing the same exact thing in the past.”

Perhaps I may be allowed to disagree. I appreciate Puranjana’s blog, and I have said so many times. I am grateful to him for allowing me to interview him for my book “Killing For Krishna” so I could better understand the facts about the 1986 murder of Sulochan. Puranjana’s photo appears in “Killing For Krishna,” as he was an important person who shared his memories with me of that unfortunate time.

However, sometimes Puranjana can make incorrect accusations. I recall a time, perhaps 20 years ago, when my friend and godbrother Damodar (who still lives at New Vrindaban today) called me on the phone and said that a few months earlier, on the insistence of our godbrother Dasaratha dasa, he attended a preaching program at Sri Galim’s brand-new preaching center in the Lawrenceville neighborhood of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Someone took a few photos and posted them online. Puranjana somehow found the photos and put them up on his website, and accused Damodar as conspirator in the New Vrindaban child abuse ring, and also used Damodar’s legal name Allen White.

Of course, Damodar never supported the New Vrindaban child abuse ring. He was a vocal supporter (as I was) of the “Remove Bhaktipada From New Vrindaban” faction shortly after Bhaktipada’s sexual activities with teenage boys was exposed during the September 1993 New Vrindaban Winnebago Incident.

Damodar knew that I had cordial relations with Puranjana and asked me to contact Puranjana, share Damodar’s situation, and ask Puranjana to remove the photos and false accusations. Damodar told me, “There are two things people cannot stand: a person who murders another person, and a person involved in child molestation.”

I wrote to Puranjana, explained the situation, and Puranjana removed the photos, and Damodar’s name from his website, as he appeared to realize his accusation was false.

PADA: All of the current ISKCON people are connected direct or indirect to the Vrndavana ISKCON program, which my reliable source says -- still has abuse going on now. Lokanath, Giriraj, Satsvarupa and other leaders have been charged with being predators -- and they are still high in the GBC leadership echelon now. And most of the former enablers are still in office as well. 

I took down the photo, but that does not change the fact that all of ISKCON is implicated if even one area has abuse going on, and we have heard that Mayapur still has some problems and so on. Jayadvaita says their gurus are sometimes engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, and those are the people who voted in Satya Vani's guru, and so forth. 

I hate to speak ill of the dead, but my contacts told me that Jiva Institute former guru Swarupa Damodar had been caught engaged in homosex by some of the Manipuri ladies, and they reported it to Ravindra Swarupa, and Ravindra said we cannot do anything because his health is too bad and it will look like we are picking on the sick. These Satya Vani guys have questionable judgement, plain and simple.  

So all of this is connected in various ways. And yeah, Sulochana has never been recognized in official ISKCON as a martyr. And instead Radhanath, Umapati, Devamrita, Kuladri and others were given high posts in that society. And Kirtanananda was buried in a samadhi with help from Gopal Krishna, Radhanath and others. Therefore, the people at New Vrndavana today are part of the overall group. And we never hear a peep out of Satya Vani about the bogus samadhis because of "politics"? 

Today, Puranjana is making a similar accusation against me, that I support the Jiva Institute molester rings and webs / pedophile Goswami samadhis cover up, which is something I know nothing about. I have barely heard of the Jiva Institute, much less support them. 

PADA: But you advertised them extensively. Now you are saying you do not know about them? Why didn't you ask me in a PM about them, before running out acting as their evident campaign manager? You were promoting them as if you were agreeing with them, and others said the same thing, that is the impression you created. 

There are many terrible things about me, I have many faults, I admit, but no one needs to invent false accusations against me to prove my rascaldom.

I do like Satyavani’s book, “Miskconceptions,” not because of his conclusion but because it is based on sastra: the writings of the Six Goswamis. To be frank, I have never read any of the Goswami’s writings, but if Satyavani’s quotations are accurate, Satyavani presents a convincing case that Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Prabhupada and Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada deviated from the teachings of Mahaprabhu.

PADA: Well yeah, but what have they done to fix anything? And they have spread this siddha pranali, rasa tattva and other deviations among ISKCON people, which has degrading effects. But more importantly, they did not help me expose the molesting and bogus samadhi program citing "political issues" in Vrndavana. 

And there is evidently molesting going on now, right on their doorstep, as it evidently has since the 1980s. You perhaps did not know that, but you never asked me either. 

To me scriptural differences have to be ignored when it comes to the welfare of children and keeping false samadhis out of the dham. They should have helped me on those issues, way back in the 1980s, and that might have helped reduce the problems and had fewer victims. Jagadanandha knew that evidently, he felt bad for being silent. 

That is not to say I do not appreciate the teachings of the founder of the Gaudiya Math and the founder of ISKCON. I appreciate maybe 99% of their teachings. However, I vehemently disagree with one percent, and I have consistently posted evidence of this on my Facebook page which explains why I disagree with one percent of the teachings.

PADA: That is fine, but then are you accepting the Christian's teachings now? I mean these are some of the less questionable statements:

• Leviticus 11:20–23 – “All flying insects that walk on all fours are detestable to you.” (Insects don’t literally walk on four legs, so this verse often confuses readers.)
• Judges 3:21–22 – Ehud kills King Eglon by stabbing him, and the fat closes over the sword so he can’t pull it out.
• Deuteronomy 25:11–12 – If two men are fighting and a woman grabs one by the genitals to help her husband, she must have her hand cut off.
• 2 Kings 2:23–24 – Elisha curses boys who mock him for being bald, and two bears come out of the woods and maul 42 of them.
• Isaiah 20:2–3 – God tells Isaiah to walk naked and barefoot for three years as a sign against Egypt and Cush. 

So to me, it looks like you are hanging out with the Christians without ever questioning their scriptures? Many people have pointed this out, it looks like Henry is with the Christians, but never once does he question the numerous dodgy statements in the Bible, only other people's scriptures, which is called hypocrisy. 

In any case, the Jiva Institute says that we do not originate with Krishna, because they are preaching the Christian idea that some souls start with God and some do not. You don't seem to mind when they make dodgy statements?

Five years ago in “Eleven Naked Emperors,” I wrote “I am not a disciple, nor a follower. I am merely a historian.” I am not a devotee, but I regard myself as a friend of the devotees. I do have many devotee friends, even though I do not share all their beliefs. Everyone I think knows this. So no one should expect me to regard the ISKCON founder as a divine, perfect and infallible being.

PADA: That is fine, but now that you are supposedly with the Christians, do you accept their Bible as perfect and infallible? You never tell us what is perfect and infallible? All scriptures including Christian, Muslim and Hindu -- have some weird, odd if not cruel looking statements, but I am concerned with the overall conclusion, love God and love others as you love yourself. 

I never challenge a Christian on some of the odd statements in the Bible, but believe me, there are many. To me it looks like you are not promoting any scripture at all, which means you are sort of your own scripture author. 

But supporting a child molestation regime? That is far fetched. I left ISKCON in 1987 when my spiritual master was expelled from the Society. I left New Vrindaban in 1993, three years before the May 1996 GBC meeting in Alachua when ten ISKCON gurukula alumni spoke about the “heart wrenching suffering at the hands of school authorities which reduced the entire audience of educators to tears.” 

PADA: OK a lot of people left, but did not present the molesting issue out the way me and Sulochana did, to make it a public issue. Jagadananda told me, he felt bad for never doing that.  

Prior to that historic May 1996 event, 99% of people in ISKCON were blissfully unaware of the abuses against ISKCON children which had been going on since 1972, except for the school teachers who propagated the abuse, and some GBC members (and the children, of course, who mostly remained silent until that May 1996 meeting).

PADA: They were aware, that is why me and Sulochana were being hunted? They were very aware that we were onto something. Many parents told me their kid was molested, but they did not want to make waves. Anyway, 1996 is when we were putting together the lawsuit. Satya Vani guys were not doing anything about any of this to my knowledge, but they knew, because Jagadananda told me they did.   

The ISKCON Child Protection Office did not conclude their case against Sri Galim, who I knew from New Vrindaban and Pittsburgh, until February 2000. His wife and my wife were best friends at New Vrindaban. We didn’t know about his pedophilia until years later. Even Sri Galim’s wife didn’t know. Can you accuse her of being part of the New Vrindaban child molester’s ring? Of course not. For years, I had no relationship with ISKCON (since 1987) or New Vrindaban (since 1993), much less support a child molester ring.

PADA: None of these people came out to make a public protest to notify the other parents, or write letters, or public protest, which caused many further victims to fall into the system. They did not write letters, or make public protests like the Catholic victims, etc. Pretty much "no one knew" because the people who did know were silently acquiescing. There is the crime of commission, and the crime of omission, silence. That is what many victims told me, no one said anything to help us.  

In fact, I did not understand the extent of the atrocities until the mid-2000s when I began research for my books and interviewed New Vrindaban gurukula alumni. Don’t forget, after 1993 I pretty much severed my relationship with New Vrindaban, although I would visit my friends from time to time during festivals. I published my research on the child molestation history in my books, especially “Gold, Guns and God, Vol. 4: Deviations in the Dhama,” which came out in 2021.

Just because I like Satyavani’s book, doesn’t mean I support any child molestation cover ups. Puranjana, you support Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada and consistently praise him. Does that mean you also support his teachings about women? About child marriage? About how women love a man who is expert at rape? That the United States should never have given black people freedom from slavery? I think sometimes, when you point one finger at another, four other fingers point back on you.

PADA: I forgot, you are with the Christians who enslaved the blacks and other people all over the planet, and caused mass starvation in Bengal, and ruined Europe many times over with wars etc. And that is your religion? And your religion is mass killing millions of animals in horrible conditions. You are the black pot criticizing another black pot? You should first of all get your own religion in order before you can reform everyone else's. Or is Christianity not your religion, you have none, anyway -- you have not made anything clear. 

Thank you for allowing me to share my thoughts. I hope you will include my letter as a comment on your November 21st blog post.
Hare Krishna
Henry Doktorski

PS My friend Boris comments: Henry, you may be a great historian and also an honest man. But I have to disagree with your statement about 99% of ISKCON being unaware of all the child sexual abuse until the Alachua program. Many ISKCON members, both blooped and unblooped were aware back in 1986, the year I met one of the gurukulis living on the West Coast (San Diego) and became “friends “. 

What he told me freaked me out, so I asked around, even making lots of long distance telephone conversations (the era before the Internet and devotee forums). I would say more than 75% of the communities were aware, and by the time of Alachua meeting it was 100%

Henry: Perhaps I am mistaken in my numbers, Boris. Frankly, just because I was unaware, doesn't mean most others were also. Your estimation sounds reasonable.

PADA: Good, yeah all sorts of people knew. That is why Sanaka Rsi called it a conspiracy of silence, parents, elders, leaders all sorts knew. And the Satya Vani program also knew -- since the 80s.

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PADA: Well these Satya Vani guys are cover ups, since the 1980s evidently, and there is a pedo ring going on even now in Vrndavana according to reliable sources, which they have not properly addressed 1980 - 2025. Neither they addressed the samadhis, and Jagadananda told me -- they could not address these things "because of the local politics." 

OK so politics is more important than children? Or Goswami samadhis? That means the Jiva Institute people have failed, since the 1980s, to address this. Anyway, yeah you have been promoting them, first saying they know the truth on issues, and yet now -- you claim to know nothing about them. 

That is the problem the whole time, no one asked me what is their story and agenda. I know their story. If anyone had wanted to know their real process, they could have asked me in private. 

As for people living in New Vrndavana now, they are still connected to the whole GBC operation now, same operation that has the pedo rings in India now. I was and am right, they are still connected -- now. 

As for Srila Prabhupada's statements, we are all Krishna's spirit particle souls and as such we need to respect each other, whether women, children, cows, dogs, cats, even black widow spiders that I protect and save in my garden. There is no license to mistreat even a black widow in his teachings, and yes, I support that. 

He never said mistreating any innocent soul is ever authorized, all living beings are part of Krishna and should be respected and seen as such, and doing ill to them will reap terrible consequences in Yama's court, and his position is my own position now. 

Since you are now supposedly leaning towards the Christians, do you have any idea how animals are MASSIVELY mis-treated in their program? And the list of Christians creating massive suffering for human folks, including using 500 lb. ordinance on civilians, is too much of an encyclopedia to recount herein. 

There are many off beat citations in the Bible that comedians have made fun of for decades, I do not think you accept the Bible as fully authentic either. 

Why are the Christians better than us? Yeah, you have helped me on some issues, and so have the Christians, and that cannot be taken away. Credit must be given where it is warranted. But we do not see the same way on all issues. In short, you never asked me about the Jiva people beforehand. This is your doing. 

I give you the benefit of doubt, I don't think you knew their history, but now you do, so it is all for the best.

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