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Friday, May 31, 2013
Sunnyvale Prabhupadanuga center week-end programs
Thursday, May 30, 2013
Wednesday, May 29, 2013
Defenders of Bhakta Shishir Katote pipe up
Bhakta Shishir Katote update
OK now his friends are telling us that it is not unusual for sannyasas to fall down, because sannyasas fell down all the time in ISKCON when Srila Prabhupada was here. And that explains all the falling down of leaders of ISKCON after 1977. So they "defeated me." Wait a minute? Their main excuse for their fall downs up till now (from 1977 - 2013) was:
(A) These leaders are just like Jesus (not just sannyasas) but they are His Divine Grace Srila Vishnupadas, Krishnapadas, Acharyapadas, Bhaktipadas, Tirthapadas etc. And their worship was ENFORCED and established by folks like Vipramukhya and Danavir, who said we have to worship these people as pure devotees, just like they are another Jesus incarnated.
(B) Hence, they are able to accept sins just like Jesus.
(C) Ooops! And as such, they have accepted too many sins.
(D) And so now, these accumulated sins are making them fall down?
What kind of foolish children believe such tales, that a person like Jesus has "accepted too many sins"? Well Bhakta Shishir's program does!
Of course, in 1990 the GBC also said their gurus have taken so many sins, now their messiahs are full of ghosts, and this is causing the Lord's messiahs to fail. So they hired Chitesvara to "ghost bust" their gurus. OK, but this does not explain, who told them they are like Jesus, and thus they can act as diksha gurus and absorb sins like Jesus, causing ghostly hauntings? Why would the Bhakta Shishir / GBC clan say that people like Jesus can fall because they are full of ghosts in the first place? And this begs the question:
Why would Jesus be full of ghosts, since He is a pure devotee? And what does that have to do with neophytes who cannot keep sannyasas standards?
Hello, Bhatka Shishir program, can you explain yourselves here and quit telling us children's fairy tales? This is great! If I rob a bank, I can say to the judge, -- Here is what really happened, I am like Jesus, I took too many sins, I thus got full of ghosts, so I fell down and robbed banks, so I am innocent! Bhakta Shishir is reading what shastra exactly, the MAFIA tales?
And really again, why is Bhakta Shishir, an alleged scholar, falling for all this bogus GBC rubbish, that the messiahs from God are taking too many sins, so they are falling down, therefore, they need to be ghost busted? Even children do not believe such nonsense programs, only great scholarly people like -- Bhakta Shishir and his oneiskcon clan? And the fact that messiahs are falling down due to ghosts, this has "defeated" me"? Really? Where is this stated, that the messiahs from God are taking too many sins, and are thus falling down, and that they are then -- full of ghosts from taking all these sins? Where is any of this described in the shastra? The guru has to surrender to Pagal Baba's ghost busting? Why doesn't Bhakta Shishir ever tell us what shastra this rubbish is coming from?
(A) These leaders are just like Jesus (not just sannyasas) but they are His Divine Grace Srila Vishnupadas, Krishnapadas, Acharyapadas, Bhaktipadas, Tirthapadas etc. And their worship was ENFORCED and established by folks like Vipramukhya and Danavir, who said we have to worship these people as pure devotees, just like they are another Jesus incarnated.
(B) Hence, they are able to accept sins just like Jesus.
(C) Ooops! And as such, they have accepted too many sins.
(D) And so now, these accumulated sins are making them fall down?
What kind of foolish children believe such tales, that a person like Jesus has "accepted too many sins"? Well Bhakta Shishir's program does!
Of course, in 1990 the GBC also said their gurus have taken so many sins, now their messiahs are full of ghosts, and this is causing the Lord's messiahs to fail. So they hired Chitesvara to "ghost bust" their gurus. OK, but this does not explain, who told them they are like Jesus, and thus they can act as diksha gurus and absorb sins like Jesus, causing ghostly hauntings? Why would the Bhakta Shishir / GBC clan say that people like Jesus can fall because they are full of ghosts in the first place? And this begs the question:
Why would Jesus be full of ghosts, since He is a pure devotee? And what does that have to do with neophytes who cannot keep sannyasas standards?
Hello, Bhatka Shishir program, can you explain yourselves here and quit telling us children's fairy tales? This is great! If I rob a bank, I can say to the judge, -- Here is what really happened, I am like Jesus, I took too many sins, I thus got full of ghosts, so I fell down and robbed banks, so I am innocent! Bhakta Shishir is reading what shastra exactly, the MAFIA tales?
And really again, why is Bhakta Shishir, an alleged scholar, falling for all this bogus GBC rubbish, that the messiahs from God are taking too many sins, so they are falling down, therefore, they need to be ghost busted? Even children do not believe such nonsense programs, only great scholarly people like -- Bhakta Shishir and his oneiskcon clan? And the fact that messiahs are falling down due to ghosts, this has "defeated" me"? Really? Where is this stated, that the messiahs from God are taking too many sins, and are thus falling down, and that they are then -- full of ghosts from taking all these sins? Where is any of this described in the shastra? The guru has to surrender to Pagal Baba's ghost busting? Why doesn't Bhakta Shishir ever tell us what shastra this rubbish is coming from?
OK, notice the "bait and switch" here: (1) The leaders are uttama acharyas like Jesus, ooops, nope (2) they are like the regular (less than kanistha) sannyasas who were falling down prior to 1977? Can you people at least try to get your story straight first of all -- before -- you present it?
Bhakta Shishir's group also forgets something else very important, Srila Prabhupada suspended sannyasa in January of 1977, saying that his leaders are making a laughingstock of sannyasa. So, suspend the sannyasa order, and let these people get married. That was in January of 1977, now according to the Bhakti Vikas swami program, on May 28th 1977 (just a few months after January 1977), Srila Prabhupada had ordered the SAME people who are unfit for sannyasa to be his "guru successors." They are falling down left, right and center, therefore, they are the Lord's successor acharyas? Do these people ever read any shastra? People who are not fit for sannyasa are not fit to be acharyas, duh!
Does Bhakta Shishir's program make any sense at all? They are not fit for sannyasa, they are falling down left right and center, they are often engaged in illicit sex, they are even falling into drugs, and even even some of them were eating beef steaks, and so on, therefore, they are fit to be God's successor messiahs? And these people claim to understand what the Goswamis are writing? Where do the Goswamis say that the acharyas are falling down left, right and center? That people who are not fit for sannyasa are acharyas? OK Shishir prabhu, we are waiting for your replies, you have to specifically address these points. Of course if you do not know the answers to any of this because you have never studied any actual shastra, fine. We will understand. ys pd
Govinda Dasi speaks (video from the Los Angeles Festival)
Govinda Dasi speaks about unchanged books:
http://youtu.be/0V7Ab7JPqZY
A few other important links:
http://prabhupadanugas.blogspot.in/
http://youtu.be/0V7Ab7JPqZY
A few other important links:
http://prabhupadanugas.blogspot.in/
Bhakti Caru Swami is giving ritvik style initiations?
BCS: Another question here comes to my mind. You want to take initiation from me, but how often we will meet? I think I came to Germany after four years? The Prabhupada installation was? Five years, okey, yes, five years. So, if I come after five years, what will you do for those five years? The question naturally arises, then Maharaja, why are you giving initiation?
Well, although I try to discourage devotees who are not in close contact with me, to take intiation from me, but like in your case you are just insisting that you want to take intiation from me. So, I had to agree.
I agreed with one confidence. That Iskcon is there to take care of you. And I am giving you intiation on behalf of Iskcon, on behalf of Prabhupada. When you came to Iskcon, you came to Srila Prabhupada.
What attracted you to Iskcon? Question (for their translator): what attracted them to Iskcon ? … Yes, but how they get to know about that? … Those devotees, what did they give you? Did they give you Prabhupada’s books? Actually what attracted you to spiritual life is Srila Prabhupada. The devotees you met, they are Prabhupada’s devotees, Iskcon devotees means Prabhupada’s devotees. The books that you read are Prabhupada’s books. You are being sheltered by Prabhupada’s arrangement, in the form of Isckon.
What attracted you to Iskcon? Question (for their translator): what attracted them to Iskcon ? … Yes, but how they get to know about that? … Those devotees, what did they give you? Did they give you Prabhupada’s books? Actually what attracted you to spiritual life is Srila Prabhupada. The devotees you met, they are Prabhupada’s devotees, Iskcon devotees means Prabhupada’s devotees. The books that you read are Prabhupada’s books. You are being sheltered by Prabhupada’s arrangement, in the form of Isckon.
So, the point is, initially you came to Krishna Consciousness being attracted by Srila Prabhupada and his arrangement. And I came in the scene much later. And then you decided to accept me as your Guru. Then what is my duty as your Guru? To connect you to Srila Prabhupada.
[PADA: The only problem is that when we say these things, the GBC gurus have us banned, beat and assassinated.]
The point is: "Always try to remember that Srila Prabhupada is your main spiritual shelter."
[PADA: Good! We have forced them to say the same things we have said all along, by our pressing them for 35 years!]
And Guru’s business is meant to be your transparent via-medium. And generally the Guru acts as a transparent via-medium between the disciple and Krishna. But here I am acting as a transparent via-medium between you all and Srila Prabhupada. And you stay fixed up in Iskcon. Because, you see, you will hardly have my association. What is going to happen to your spiritual life, if you are simply depending upon me? But if you are properly situated in Iskcon, then your spiritual life will be safe. Is it clear ? Do you want to make spiritual advancement? Then become nicely situated within Iskcon.
[PADA: Right, you might not ever see your so-called GBC guru, who is now acting as a ritvik, your real link is the books and program of Srila Prabhupada.]
And I am simply a representative of Iskcon. As a spiritual master my role is to represent Iskcon. Today I am giving initiation because Iskcon has approved me, because Iskcon has authorized me. Tomorrow if Iskcon says: “you stop giving initiation”, then I have to stop giving initiation. That clearly indicates I am not giving initiation on my own capacity. I am giving initiation on the authrority of Iskcon. This is the point about surrender. Surrender to Iskcon. Because Iskcon is Prabhupada’s divine arrangement to spread Krishna Consciousness all over the world for ten thousand years to come.
That arrangement is Prabhupada’s arrangement, Chaitanya Mahaprabhus arrangement. Become a very, very dedicated part of this wonderful arrangement by Srila Prabhupada. And your commitment to Srila Prabhuapda will be shown by how sincerely you are practising the process. What is the process? The process is to chant at least sixteen rounds every day. So, you are ready to take the vow? You are ready to chant sixteen rounds every day? Throughout your life and no deviation, and no blooping, no leaving the movement?
And also follow the four regulative principles. Become very, very fixed up on these two things. Follow the four regulative principles very strictly. Chant sixteen rounds minimum. And read Prabhupada’s books every day. Why is reading Srila Prabhupada’s books so important? When you read Prabhupada’s books, Prabhupada is guiding you and Prabhupada’s vani is manifest in his books. Did you ever try this? You have any difficulty, you are in a difficult situation and you just opened Prabhupada’s books to direct you as if Prabhupada is directing you. giving you the answer. Prabhupada is still here in the form of his vani. Prabhupada’s vani is manifest in the form of his books.
Okey, you will chant sixteen rounds of the maha-mantra every day ? What is the Hare Krishna mantra? The Hare Krishna mantra is Krishna Himself. What is the manifestation of the Deity from? The manifestation of the Deity is from the earth. (Madhavi, take care of them) Right? So, manifestation of Krishna in the form of earth. You know about the five elements ? What are the five elements? Five elements are water, fire, earth, air, ether. Now, Krishna manifest Himself also in ether. What is that ether manifestation of of Krishna ? From ether comes what? From ether comes sound. So through ether Krishna manifested in the form of Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare. So this Hare Krishna mantra is Krishna Himself. But there are offenses to the maha-mantra. There are ten offenses. And if those offenses are there, then Krishna does not manifest. You know about the ten offenses ?
Feder, what is the first offense ? Feder… (to translator) You don’t have to repeat, you can simply say : Yes, that’s right.
What is the second offense, Natasha ?
What is the third offense, Feder ? Third offense ? … No, third offense is to disobey the instructions of the spiritual master.
Fourth offense? Natasha? … He just mentioned it. He got the fourth offense mixed up with the third. Okey? okey… (laughter)
Okey, Feder, fifth offense ? You are feeling nervous? Okey, let’s see what according to your calculation
Fifth offense. What is the fifth offense ?
Okey, close.
Sixth offense, Natasha? Okey, memorise them properly, yes?
Seventh offense, Feder?
Seventh offense is to commit sinful activities on the strength of the chanting. So, now he remembers?
Eight offense, Natasha? Karma kanda… (Guru Maharaja Laughs) Okey.
Nith offense, Feder? You just said it. “To instruct the glories of the Holy Name to a faithless person. And tenth offense, Natasha?
To maintain material attachments.
What is the second offense, Natasha ?
What is the third offense, Feder ? Third offense ? … No, third offense is to disobey the instructions of the spiritual master.
Fourth offense? Natasha? … He just mentioned it. He got the fourth offense mixed up with the third. Okey? okey… (laughter)
Okey, Feder, fifth offense ? You are feeling nervous? Okey, let’s see what according to your calculation
Fifth offense. What is the fifth offense ?
Okey, close.
Sixth offense, Natasha? Okey, memorise them properly, yes?
Seventh offense, Feder?
Seventh offense is to commit sinful activities on the strength of the chanting. So, now he remembers?
Eight offense, Natasha? Karma kanda… (Guru Maharaja Laughs) Okey.
Nith offense, Feder? You just said it. “To instruct the glories of the Holy Name to a faithless person. And tenth offense, Natasha?
To maintain material attachments.
And it is also an offense to chant inattentively.
Okey, memorize these ten offenses very nicely. I should have told you this yesterday. Because it is important to protect yourself from committing these offenses against the Holy Name.
Okey, now you can sit here and do the acaman and somebody, some initiated devotees can put on their beads… Ramananda, you can put it on. Or, let Namamrita put it on Feder…
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Krishna. So, now we will do acaman. Achaman means cleansing the vocal channel. So, you have achaman cups. So, you take water in your hand and wash it, both hands. First right hand, take, okey… Then you take some water on your palm and drink it from the base of your palm, saying Om Sri Keshavaya Namah. Okey, wash your hand. Then take water again and drink it by saying , then say Om Sri Narayana Namah. Then take it again and drink it again and say Om Sri Nararyana Namah. Then wash your hands and say after me:
Om apavitra pavitro va sarvah vastan
yasmared pundarikaksam apandarah sucih
Sri Vishnu Sri Vishnu Sri Vishnu
yasmared pundarikaksam apandarah sucih
Sri Vishnu Sri Vishnu Sri Vishnu
This mantra means : whether one is impure or pure, in whatever condition one may be in, when one remembers the lotus eyed Supreme Personality of Krishna. So, you understood what is the best way to get purified ? Feder ? But what did the mantra say ? The mantra said that whether one is pure or impure, externally or internally, if he remembers Krishna, one becomes purified. Right? Therefore always remember Krishna.
So, now you can come, both of you. So, Feder, what are the four regulative principles ? .. So, you take a vow to follow the four regulative principles? Yes? Okey. And how many rounds will you chant a day ? Minimum sixteen rounds. Okey, and also I will request you to take a vow to never, ever leave Iskcon which is the shelter of Srila Prabhupada.
On behalf of Srila Prabhupada I give you your spiritual name, Parama Karuna Dasa, which means the servant of the All Merciful Supreme Personality Of Godhead, Krishna. And how many rounds of the Hare Krishna Mantra you will chant.
Natasha, what are the four regulative principles ? And you take a vow to follow these four regulative principles? And how many rounds of this Hare Krishna mantra you will chant? So, your name on behalf of Srila Prabhupada I am giving as Nama Chintamani dasi, which means the Holy Name Which is the Fulfiller of all desires. Hare Krishna. Now you offer obeisances to Srila Prabhupada, the Deities and the devotees. Offer obeisances to Mother Dina Santara as the GBC of this zone.
[PADA: BCS is saying similar ideas to what we said all along, and this proves that ISKCON is gradually going ritvik. ys pd]
Tuesday, May 28, 2013
Can any 12 year old child defeat Bhakta Shishir Katote (of oneiskcon)?
PADA: Bhakta Shishir Katote (a disciple of Bhakti Vikas swami?) has recently become a prominent defender of the GBC's guru system, a system that is constantly being defended on their ONEISKCON site. He claims to have all kinds of wonderful realizations of various elaborate and esoteric sanskrit writings. For example, he claims to be examining -- and teaching us less scholarly fools about -- the writings of the Six Goswamis, and other Vaishnava acharyas. OK sounds like a great scholar, right? Yet, how would Bhakta Shishir Kapote have defeated me, when I was only 12 years old?
When I was 12 years old, I had very little spiritual realizations for sure, as did all my other 12 years old friends and associates. Yet there was one thing we ALL did know, that the successors to God, the acharyas, the gurus, the messiahs, they must ALSO be as pure as God. We were trained like that as children, that the messiah is "The Son of God."
Hence -- the Son of God -- would have the SAME qualities of the father (i.e. divine purity). So we were trained like that starting out when we were teeny little tykes in the Church, that the the Son of God is as pure as God. Therefore, the guru, the acharya, the successor of God, the messiah, he must also be qualitatively like God. I knew that fully when I was only 12. Apparently, no one ever told Bhakta Shishir that the successor to God -- MUST ALSO BE -- as pure as God, including his current GBC guru?
Now along comes Bhakta Shisihir Kapote, and he says our idea is wrong. He says, we have to work with the GBC's guru system, where their messiahs are often "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children" (and drugs, and shooting guns, and teaching about wearing condoms, and going gambling in Vegas and so on). And this degraded standard for their messiahs is pretty much agreed upon by ISKCON's biggest scholars, writers and editors like -- Jayadvaita swami.
OK, now suppose I was 12 again, and someone told me, the messiahs from heaven are most of the time fallen, and even engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children? First of all, at 12 years old, I'd probably laugh my socks off at the sheer stupidity and utter foolishness of the idea that God's successors are total debauchees. What kind of fools would assert that God's successors are party animals of the worst order?
At least at 12 I had some theoretical idea about illicit sex with men, women and children, and I knew that this was VERY sinful behavior that was not even considered as bona fide good behavior -- even by the ordinary mundane citizens. This was considered as low-class degradation, and not as the behavior of saints. Now I suddenly have to listen to a sanskrit scholar tell me that his debauchery guru program is bona fide, when I knew that was totally foolish, degraded and -- an abomination and insult to God -- when I was only 12?
And even at 12, I would also be angry at the total disregard for God, by saying His messiahs are a pack of debauchees. There is no such thing as acharyas being "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children" in the writings of any Vedic scholars? No religion on earth teaches that the successors to God are most of the time, debauchees.
Even in the cannibal society, they do not worship illicit sex with men, women and children as their messiahs and saints? When is Bhakta Shishir going to catch up to my level, when I was only 12? Clearly he cannot defeat any of this or he would have answered me a long time ago about this. He cannot reply, he has been totally defeated, and he would be defeated even now by almost any 12 year old child in the USA, or even the children or cannibals could defeat him. In sum, there is no such thing as the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children, it does not exist anywhere, except in Bhakta Shishir's bogus concocted messiah's project. When is Bhakta Shishir going to wake up and admit his entire program is -- wrong? ys pd
When I was 12 years old, I had very little spiritual realizations for sure, as did all my other 12 years old friends and associates. Yet there was one thing we ALL did know, that the successors to God, the acharyas, the gurus, the messiahs, they must ALSO be as pure as God. We were trained like that as children, that the messiah is "The Son of God."
Hence -- the Son of God -- would have the SAME qualities of the father (i.e. divine purity). So we were trained like that starting out when we were teeny little tykes in the Church, that the the Son of God is as pure as God. Therefore, the guru, the acharya, the successor of God, the messiah, he must also be qualitatively like God. I knew that fully when I was only 12. Apparently, no one ever told Bhakta Shishir that the successor to God -- MUST ALSO BE -- as pure as God, including his current GBC guru?
Now along comes Bhakta Shisihir Kapote, and he says our idea is wrong. He says, we have to work with the GBC's guru system, where their messiahs are often "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children" (and drugs, and shooting guns, and teaching about wearing condoms, and going gambling in Vegas and so on). And this degraded standard for their messiahs is pretty much agreed upon by ISKCON's biggest scholars, writers and editors like -- Jayadvaita swami.
OK, now suppose I was 12 again, and someone told me, the messiahs from heaven are most of the time fallen, and even engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children? First of all, at 12 years old, I'd probably laugh my socks off at the sheer stupidity and utter foolishness of the idea that God's successors are total debauchees. What kind of fools would assert that God's successors are party animals of the worst order?
At least at 12 I had some theoretical idea about illicit sex with men, women and children, and I knew that this was VERY sinful behavior that was not even considered as bona fide good behavior -- even by the ordinary mundane citizens. This was considered as low-class degradation, and not as the behavior of saints. Now I suddenly have to listen to a sanskrit scholar tell me that his debauchery guru program is bona fide, when I knew that was totally foolish, degraded and -- an abomination and insult to God -- when I was only 12?
And even at 12, I would also be angry at the total disregard for God, by saying His messiahs are a pack of debauchees. There is no such thing as acharyas being "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children" in the writings of any Vedic scholars? No religion on earth teaches that the successors to God are most of the time, debauchees.
Even in the cannibal society, they do not worship illicit sex with men, women and children as their messiahs and saints? When is Bhakta Shishir going to catch up to my level, when I was only 12? Clearly he cannot defeat any of this or he would have answered me a long time ago about this. He cannot reply, he has been totally defeated, and he would be defeated even now by almost any 12 year old child in the USA, or even the children or cannibals could defeat him. In sum, there is no such thing as the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children, it does not exist anywhere, except in Bhakta Shishir's bogus concocted messiah's project. When is Bhakta Shishir going to wake up and admit his entire program is -- wrong? ys pd
The Emporer's New Clothes
PADA: Whoever brings out an issue generally gets the credit for doing that, however good or bad of a messenger they are. I have been criticized for many years for bringing forward all kinds of issues including: The bogus appointment issue; The GBC's violently enforced policy of offering bhogha to sex and drug addicts; The book changes issue; The child molesting issue; The poison issue -- and so on and so forth. Many devotees have hated me for doing that, including probably Govinda dasi.
Well ok, but if no one else is bringing these things up in public, whoever does gets the credit, and gets the spotlight -- by default. That is called -- the realty of life. I never wanted to be in the spotlight, nor to be chased with baseball bats etc., but hardly no one else was doing these expose things the way I was, so I just became the focus by default.
Sulochana became a focus when he went public, and of course many people hated him for the same reason. And now Govinda dasi is being the focus by default, because she is the person bringing an issue forward. And Jvalamukhi dasi is also in the spotlight because she is bringing the molesting issue up, and so on and so forth. So that is how life works, whoever goes forward with an issue -- gets credit for doing that, and gets into the spotlight. And if we do not know that, that is called, not accepting reality.
If a group of the ex-kulis wanted to make waves for say the past 10 years, simply if four of them would have gone to ISKCON festivals with signs, "Jayadvaita says acharyas have illicit sex with men, women and children, his policy has caused mass molesting of our group, so we want him banned from ISKCON." That would have had a huge impact. But they are not doing that.
Instead, the only public group of ex-kulis that I see at festivals, is a group of them that are following Radhanatha around, and he was one of the enforcers of the child molester regime, who helped get dissenters to his molester empire killed.
So this is why we have the age old story of -- "the emperor's new clothes." OK, he really had no clothes, but the only person who pointed that out was -- a child. So the child got the credit and got the spotlight, because he was the only public protester. All the rest of the people, especially all the adults, acquiesced, they went along to get along, and promoted the illusion that the king had nice clothes, but the king was naked. So that means, the child got credit for bringing that up, because, no one else would.
So right now Govinda dasi will get credit for bringing the book changes issue up because, no one else is. Its very simple really. So the person who points things out in public gets credit for that, as was well known thousands of years ago when the parable of the emporer's clothes was made. If the kulis, or anyone else, wants credit for public protest of issues, they have to make public protest of issues, that's all there is to it. ys pd
PADA: Thanks prabhu, Yes, a small team of ex-kulis could bring down the entire GBC guru program in a week, if they got organized and serious about the issue. Frankly I am amazed they have not done that already. I see a group of a maybe a dozen ex-kids victims from the Catholic Church making public protests in front of big Catholic Churches from time to time, and we see this on a regular basis all over the place. But! We never see our victims doing that? And our victims were also starved and so forth, and thus they have a much more powerful complaint. So if they do not complain, they will simply not be noticed and the leaders who put them into all that abuse will continue on acting as big messiahs and gurus and so forth. ys pd
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Monday, May 27, 2013
GBC gurus hi-jacked devotee's retirement situation
***** Dasi: Here in Florida, we won't be seeing the Medicaid expansion and I hate to say it, but it will hit the devotees here hard. B/C health care alternate programs are being phased out in anticipation of "The Affordable Care Act." Many older devotees here simply did not plan for their retirement, and therefore they don't qualify for Medicare or Social Security, unless they are disabled. I don't know what is going to happen to them.
Govinda Dasi's speech erased from ISKCON's video
Bhakta D: Hare Krishna, Dandavats. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
I attended the Prabhupada festival this weekend in L A. It was quite nice, but the highlight of the whole festival was when Govinda Dasi and Shyamasundar spoke about the importance of not changing one word of Srila Prabhupada's books. This was in a packed temple room in front of hundreds of devotees and their Lordships Rukmini Dvarkadesa.
Jaya Srila Prabhpada! If you would like to see video of Govinda Dasi and Shyamasundara's talk about no changes to Srila Prabhupada's books please follow this link. The video is of the 2nd day of the festival and about 1:20 min long. Govinda Dasi and Shyamasundara's segment is about 1:05 minutes into the video. Enjoy http://www.dandavats.info/?p=2724
I attended the Prabhupada festival this weekend in L A. It was quite nice, but the highlight of the whole festival was when Govinda Dasi and Shyamasundar spoke about the importance of not changing one word of Srila Prabhupada's books. This was in a packed temple room in front of hundreds of devotees and their Lordships Rukmini Dvarkadesa.
I could hardly believe it was going on! I thought, any minute now they [the GBC's goondas] are going pull the plug on this. Yet it went on for a good 45 minutes. There were loud cheers coming from at least half of the devotees in support of no changes. I think the other half were totally stunned about the whole event, they did not know what to say.
Jaya Srila Prabhpada! If you would like to see video of Govinda Dasi and Shyamasundara's talk about no changes to Srila Prabhupada's books please follow this link. The video is of the 2nd day of the festival and about 1:20 min long. Govinda Dasi and Shyamasundara's segment is about 1:05 minutes into the video. Enjoy http://www.dandavats.info/?p=2724
[PADA: The speech by Govinda dasi was there at the start, but has now suddenly been REMOVED and EDITED OUT, but do not despair, we are told the video will be available soon from one of our contacts, and it will be posted on YOUTUBE soon. We will keep you posted! ys pd]
Sunday, May 26, 2013
Govinda Dasi Pounds Jayadvaita swami Into Dust!
Govinda Dasi slams the books changes at the Los Angeles Prabhupada festival, and everyone in the temple was cheering her on! Yes, good job! Another woman speaks up at a festval! Wow! Lets hear more of these things at festivals, its time to wake up! Can we get a few men to step up to the plate now? ys pd
Deity offering issue (update) 5/28/13
Dear Prabhu, Generally, you can judge if something is bona fide by the results, and that goes for individuals as well as institutions. For example, when Srila Prabhupada was here, he told me personally (because I was one of those doing pooja for the deities before they were being sent to USA) -- we have to offer only pure food to the pure devotee, or it is not accepted by Krishna.
So in 1978, when they started to offer foodstuffs to the 11 (Jayatirtha was getting the bhogha offered to him) I objected, and said this would cause problems, this is a change in the pooja, and I was right, it has caused problems. Srila Prabhupada said, the result of changing the deity worship would be very inauspicious, and he was right. Bhogha has to be pure and be offered to the pure, that is what he said, there is no other process that he designated or allowed. ys pd
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The Guukuli issue (update) 5/28/13
Dear ****** dasa, Few kulis joined my cause? Well yes and no. Most of them have been influenced by their parents, who said all along I was WAY too heavy. Most of the parents said my idea that there was a huge molesting problem was false, over-blown, if not an offense to the leaders, starting around 1980 when I first began to make public this topic.
The parents hated me for the most part, and many still do. They think my addressing this children abuse issue was just plain foolish and "against ISKCON." Again, many parents still do say that, thus many of the kids listened to their own compromised parents, and the kids compromised too.
However, once we started the case, over 1,000 victims wanted to sign up, meaning, eventually the children were starting to catch up what I was saying, otherwise they would not have all wanted to sign up like this. Again, many parents told their kids not to sign up, and many of these parents begrudge me still for even ringing the alarm on the problem.
Some parents even told me -- the children's suicides are good, who cares, let em get out of the way instead of causing troubles. Thus, many of the kids in different ways got very upset at the rejection of their suffering by most of the ISKCON adults as well, so now they do not want to be associated with either party, neither me because their parents are against me, nor their parents and / or the GBC since they are not fully with them too, so there is social pressure not to be part of my idea or any idea.
What has happened around San Francisco for example, most of these ex-kids are now not associated with any idea, they never come to the temple here in the San Francisco area, ever, ever, FOREVER they have simply gone off to live separate lives from the whole process. They are not joining anyone. That does not change the fact that I was right to raise the alarm on the issue?
Anyway we are getting a whole new wave of mostly younger people, we just had four initiations ceremonies in four separated countries, so we are getting a fresh and brand new wave of new people now, and they ARE working with our Prabhupadanuga idea, and reading our web sites and so forth. As Srila Prabhupada says, I am not running a popularity contest here.
I did what was right, Srila Prabhupada's children were committing suicide, and so I did something to help, and it did help, there were fewer suicides after that. I helped when almost no one else would. And I was beaten with shoes ever since for even making any attempt to save their lives. Whether I get credit or not, I do not care. I did what had to be done, plain and simple. If I move a baby carriage out of the road that is in the path of a speeding car, and save the baby, whether the mother of that baby then kisses me, or hits me in the head with a shoe, it does not matter, my trying to save the baby was and is the right thing to do.
And Jvalamukhi just confirmed that there is a lot of suicidal tendency in this group, and that the court case was FORCIBLY waking everyone up to the issue, so more people are agreeing with me, because that is what happened and I was right about it all along. I may or may not ever get credit, that is not my purpose for doing things. ys pd
Anarchy will not work either ... !
That is what we said you were doing more than a year ago and you are still doing that? Worse, you are saying the Christians and their Church is a bad idea, so you want people to live like barbarians and have no civilized culture at all? You want lawless anarchy, no structure to the culture whatsoever, tear it all down, no more church, no more religion, and since the police and courts are based on the Church’s teachings, we should remove all that — and we will be living like barbaric cave men? Why is that the better idea? You are an anarchist. Anarchists want to tear it all down, but they have nothing to replace it with. That is what we thought you were saying. ys pd
[PADA NOTE: Same problem we are having with folks like Rocana, Sanat, Mukunda, Enver etc. The GBC is no good, the ritviks are no good, nobody and nothing is any good, just take everyone else down, and then they have .... no program to promote at all? None of these people has any developed programs whatsoever, nor are any likely to develop anything at all, ever, at least within this kalpa. Rocana even has to invent the names of people who write to him because, no one else is part of his process. Its just anarchy. This is described in the Gita, people become bewildered, frustrated, and then they reject all processes, and they end up with -- nothing. That is not the way forward prabhu, sorry. At least our ritvik ideas is building some sort of framework to build -- at least -- something. Sheesh! ys pd]
Saturday, May 25, 2013
Jvalamukhi Devi speaks about gurukula abuses at ISKCON Mayapur
S dasa: Yesterday, this Gurukuli girl made a historical speech in the temple room in Mayapur denouncing the hypocrisy of ISKCON's leadership and warning against the dangers of the criminals that have dressed in the guise of devotees to exploit ISKCON's children.
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My dear ladies and gentlemen, Vaisnavas and Vaisnavis, respected elders, please accept my most humble obeisances. All glories to our heroic, and beloved Srila Prabhupada!
My name is Jvalamukhi devi dasi. I will be leading the prayer today, on behalf of the second generation devotees, all gathered together here, as well as all over the world, reciting the same prayer, with 12 hour kirtan. Thank you for watching us on Mayapur.tv, we are thousands assembled via modern technology. Greetings to you all who are watching. Thank you for being with us. Jai Narasimhadeva!
The prayer I will be reciting is also available on the website, praylikeprahlada.com. Everything I speak here, is already pre-recorded, in written form, on that site in case those watching are not able to tune in real time. You can visit the site, praylikeprahlada.com anytime, and hear this same prayer, and message of the ISKCON youth.
That being said, I will begin with this prayer that we will say together, and follow with a personal plea to Lord Narasimhadeva for the second generation. Please follow along with me, using the hand-outs. I will read the first two paragraphs, then you all read with me, in your most prayerful mood, the part addressing Lord Narasimha’s weapons.
PRAYER INTRO
My dear Lord, You sent Your divine emissary of compassion to us, Srila Prabhupada, who gave his life to give us life. As the Founder Acarya of the International Society for Krsna Consciousness, Srila Prabhupada declared this society to be his body. Bhakti Tirtha Swami offered his own life for the healing of our ISKCON which he saw was greatly weakened due to offenses against our women and children.
JDD: Shield, marked with a hundred brilliant, moonlike circles. Please cover the eyes of the sinful enemies of envy that make us blind to the good qualities in others and force us to offend the Vaisnavas.
JDD: O Sudarsana Cakra, chief of the Lord’s emblems, symbol of power by which Lord Nrsimhadeva controls this whole cosmic manifestation. O invincible wheel of time, powerful as the sun and moon, impossible to check, You are the Lord’s final and ultimate weapon to kill the demons and protect the devotees.
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My dear ladies and gentlemen, Vaisnavas and Vaisnavis, respected elders, please accept my most humble obeisances. All glories to our heroic, and beloved Srila Prabhupada!
My name is Jvalamukhi devi dasi. I will be leading the prayer today, on behalf of the second generation devotees, all gathered together here, as well as all over the world, reciting the same prayer, with 12 hour kirtan. Thank you for watching us on Mayapur.tv, we are thousands assembled via modern technology. Greetings to you all who are watching. Thank you for being with us. Jai Narasimhadeva!
The prayer I will be reciting is also available on the website, praylikeprahlada.com. Everything I speak here, is already pre-recorded, in written form, on that site in case those watching are not able to tune in real time. You can visit the site, praylikeprahlada.com anytime, and hear this same prayer, and message of the ISKCON youth.
That being said, I will begin with this prayer that we will say together, and follow with a personal plea to Lord Narasimhadeva for the second generation. Please follow along with me, using the hand-outs. I will read the first two paragraphs, then you all read with me, in your most prayerful mood, the part addressing Lord Narasimha’s weapons.
PRAYER INTRO
My dear Lord, You sent Your divine emissary of compassion to us, Srila Prabhupada, who gave his life to give us life. As the Founder Acarya of the International Society for Krsna Consciousness, Srila Prabhupada declared this society to be his body. Bhakti Tirtha Swami offered his own life for the healing of our ISKCON which he saw was greatly weakened due to offenses against our women and children.
[PADA: OK except, Bhakti Tirtha swami (BTS) has been one of the worst promoters of the anti-children, anti-women, anti-family and pro-pedophile acharyas program, and their odious pedophile laced "guru's-schools." BTS ordered women and children that they need to worship his pedophile pals as their messiahs, and he ordered everyone to support his molester guru's infrastructure and program. BTS was himself "voted in" as a co-guru to that program, thus he is a card carrying member of "The Enforced Cult Ritualistic Worship of Homosexual Pedophile Messiahs Club." Worse, he is one of the ENFORCERS of their odious process.
And at the same time, BTS vociferously opposed our idea, that we need to worship Srila Prabhupada (instead of the BTS bogus "guru" program). And while the ISKCON children were being starved, beaten, abused and molested, Bhakti Tirtha swami was stuffing his face by eating huge feasts along with the other big leaders of that child abuse program. And he was also living like a millionaire prince (while some of the children in his charge had no money for food or soap?). BTS was always smiling with, and patting the backs of, the other GBC guru's leaders, i.e. the other Emperor's of the molester messiahs program. And in this way he was helping them cement in their jack booted authority over all of the rest of us, and over the children of ISKCON. The children were also UNDER his charge and AUTHORITY because BTS was an important leader of that group.
Did we forget to mention that by Bhakti Tirtha's saying we are bogus is why -- we dissenters have been getting banned, beaten and killed? Bhakti Tirtha swami obtained his entire "leadership / messiah" position in ISKCON by being a slave to Kirtanananda's regime, and the infrastructure that created and supported that regime, the bogus GBC guru's regime. OK, and all the while child molesting, murders, and crimes of all types were going on in that regime, and BTS was a leading supporter of that regime. And now some of the bogus GBC's gurus have participated in burying Kirtanananda's dead corpse in the holy dham, because they are still in love with their homosexual pedophile messiahs. Why else?
Bhakti Tirtha swami died slowly, apparently from melanoma cancer, that means he had plenty of time to recant his views -- views he was saying all along since 1978 -- that we need to worship deviants as God's messiahs, but he never recanted? He went to his grave still saying we need to worship his illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs program, which has been enforced using beatings and murders. He never changed this one iota.]
And at the same time, BTS vociferously opposed our idea, that we need to worship Srila Prabhupada (instead of the BTS bogus "guru" program). And while the ISKCON children were being starved, beaten, abused and molested, Bhakti Tirtha swami was stuffing his face by eating huge feasts along with the other big leaders of that child abuse program. And he was also living like a millionaire prince (while some of the children in his charge had no money for food or soap?). BTS was always smiling with, and patting the backs of, the other GBC guru's leaders, i.e. the other Emperor's of the molester messiahs program. And in this way he was helping them cement in their jack booted authority over all of the rest of us, and over the children of ISKCON. The children were also UNDER his charge and AUTHORITY because BTS was an important leader of that group.
Did we forget to mention that by Bhakti Tirtha's saying we are bogus is why -- we dissenters have been getting banned, beaten and killed? Bhakti Tirtha swami obtained his entire "leadership / messiah" position in ISKCON by being a slave to Kirtanananda's regime, and the infrastructure that created and supported that regime, the bogus GBC guru's regime. OK, and all the while child molesting, murders, and crimes of all types were going on in that regime, and BTS was a leading supporter of that regime. And now some of the bogus GBC's gurus have participated in burying Kirtanananda's dead corpse in the holy dham, because they are still in love with their homosexual pedophile messiahs. Why else?
Bhakti Tirtha swami died slowly, apparently from melanoma cancer, that means he had plenty of time to recant his views -- views he was saying all along since 1978 -- that we need to worship deviants as God's messiahs, but he never recanted? He went to his grave still saying we need to worship his illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs program, which has been enforced using beatings and murders. He never changed this one iota.]
JDD: On this most auspicious Appearance Day of Lord Nrsimhadeva, let us follow in his holy footsteps, offering our hearts at the feet of the Lord for purification and rectification for the cleansing, healing and upliftment of Srila Prabhupada’s body, the International Society for Krsna Consciousness. As we take courage from the association of sincere Vaisnavas we pray:
START READING IN UNISON HERE – (Prayer written by Mahanidhi Swami, adjusted for this event by H.G. Harinama Cintamani devi dasi)
[PADA: Mahanidhi swami is simply another big cheer leader of the molester messiahs guru program like BTS. He loves the worshipers of child molesters program, and he avoids us like the plague, because we oppose his child molesting guru's regime.]
JDD: O Conchshell, your name is Pancajanya and you reside in Lord Nrsimhadeva’s hand. You are blown three times. With the first blow you kill the demons; with the second you bless the devotees; and with the third you announce the victory of a pure heart, reverberating with the message, “My devotee will Never be vanquished!”
[PADA: Devotees will not be vanquished? What happens if they are intentionally tossed under the bus by a molester messiahs program? Then we can be killed, like Sulochana was. Just because we are "devotees" does not mean that a bogus guru's program cannot kill us? Demoniac regimes have ALWAYS killed devotees EVER since time began. And so they can do that, and they would kill their opponents even today if they thought they could get away with it. The only reason I am alive today is that the police and FBI (and in sum Lord Narasimhadeva's agents) saved me from them. Then again, there are a growing number of people who think the same regime poisoned Prabhupada, assassinated Aindra, and so forth.]
JDD: O Club, your name is Kaumodaki and you are very dear to the Lord. The atheists of avidya and aparadhas have invaded the Nama Hattas in the city of our hearts and our beloved ISKCON. O Lord Nrsimhadeva, please run through the streets of our hearts and of our ISKCON society and pound these demons to pieces with the thunderbolt strikes of Your club!
START READING IN UNISON HERE – (Prayer written by Mahanidhi Swami, adjusted for this event by H.G. Harinama Cintamani devi dasi)
[PADA: Mahanidhi swami is simply another big cheer leader of the molester messiahs guru program like BTS. He loves the worshipers of child molesters program, and he avoids us like the plague, because we oppose his child molesting guru's regime.]
JDD: O Conchshell, your name is Pancajanya and you reside in Lord Nrsimhadeva’s hand. You are blown three times. With the first blow you kill the demons; with the second you bless the devotees; and with the third you announce the victory of a pure heart, reverberating with the message, “My devotee will Never be vanquished!”
[PADA: Devotees will not be vanquished? What happens if they are intentionally tossed under the bus by a molester messiahs program? Then we can be killed, like Sulochana was. Just because we are "devotees" does not mean that a bogus guru's program cannot kill us? Demoniac regimes have ALWAYS killed devotees EVER since time began. And so they can do that, and they would kill their opponents even today if they thought they could get away with it. The only reason I am alive today is that the police and FBI (and in sum Lord Narasimhadeva's agents) saved me from them. Then again, there are a growing number of people who think the same regime poisoned Prabhupada, assassinated Aindra, and so forth.]
JDD: O Club, your name is Kaumodaki and you are very dear to the Lord. The atheists of avidya and aparadhas have invaded the Nama Hattas in the city of our hearts and our beloved ISKCON. O Lord Nrsimhadeva, please run through the streets of our hearts and of our ISKCON society and pound these demons to pieces with the thunderbolt strikes of Your club!
[PADA: Good idea, except you cannot simultaneously promote the leaders of the child attacking Hiranyakasipu (demon's) program, like Bhakti Tirtha swami, Mahanidhi swami and others, and get rid of them at the same time? You also cannot lose weight while eating giant ghee soaked gulabs all day like Jayapataka was doing, while he was having his own school's children starved and fed rotten, moldy oatmeal.
Of course this is why the big fat JPS had a heart attack / stroke, he was eating enough for 40 people while he was starving the children in his charge. Now Jayapataka is very angry that we are feeding 1.5 million children every day in India. If there is one thing a fat child hater -- hates to see -- its skinny children eating. He simply cannot tolerate seeing happy children eating, so he is spending $15,000,000 suing us to stop our free food program in INDIA. Now he wants to starve even MORE children, and that means he never learned from his original problem of starving the ISKCON children, nope! He wants to STARVE even MORE CHILDREN. And Bhakti Vikas is the sannyasa disciple of JPS. And Radhanatha is the main helper of JPS on the court case against us etc. They are birds of a feather.
So now JPS and his other GBC guru pals want to shut down our free food program for children, so they can expand their children starving program. And apparently all the other leaders of ISKCON are supporting Jayapataka in doing that. In other words, the "new plan" of the bogus GBC gurus (after they were sued for starving their own school children) is to starve yet another wave of children.
Thus, the bogus ISKCON leaders now want to starve 1.5 million children -- after they first of all starved their own children. Yes, lets kill children by starving them to death! And almost all the other GBC are clapping and applauding, they love that idea! So its simple, we cannot support these children haters, the people who want to starve even more children, and at the same time -- plea to help children? People who have children starved, beaten and molested are demons, and they are worse than Hiranyakasipu if they disguise themselves as gurus, sannyasas and saints.]
Of course this is why the big fat JPS had a heart attack / stroke, he was eating enough for 40 people while he was starving the children in his charge. Now Jayapataka is very angry that we are feeding 1.5 million children every day in India. If there is one thing a fat child hater -- hates to see -- its skinny children eating. He simply cannot tolerate seeing happy children eating, so he is spending $15,000,000 suing us to stop our free food program in INDIA. Now he wants to starve even MORE children, and that means he never learned from his original problem of starving the ISKCON children, nope! He wants to STARVE even MORE CHILDREN. And Bhakti Vikas is the sannyasa disciple of JPS. And Radhanatha is the main helper of JPS on the court case against us etc. They are birds of a feather.
So now JPS and his other GBC guru pals want to shut down our free food program for children, so they can expand their children starving program. And apparently all the other leaders of ISKCON are supporting Jayapataka in doing that. In other words, the "new plan" of the bogus GBC gurus (after they were sued for starving their own school children) is to starve yet another wave of children.
Thus, the bogus ISKCON leaders now want to starve 1.5 million children -- after they first of all starved their own children. Yes, lets kill children by starving them to death! And almost all the other GBC are clapping and applauding, they love that idea! So its simple, we cannot support these children haters, the people who want to starve even more children, and at the same time -- plea to help children? People who have children starved, beaten and molested are demons, and they are worse than Hiranyakasipu if they disguise themselves as gurus, sannyasas and saints.]
JDD: Shield, marked with a hundred brilliant, moonlike circles. Please cover the eyes of the sinful enemies of envy that make us blind to the good qualities in others and force us to offend the Vaisnavas.
[PADA: Right, as soon as we said homosexuals, deviants, criminals and pedophiles are not God's successor acharyas, then people like Bhakti Tirtha swami, Mahanidhi swami and others of that ilk opposed us and said we are "offenders." Anyone who does not worship their child molesters pals as messiahs is "an offender." That is how these folks perpetuated the molesting, and orchestrated killing of some of us dissenters. They said we are offenders because -- we would not worship their child molesters messiahs program. Of course Lord Narasimhadeva did protect us from them, that is a fact, and we are very grateful indeed for His protecting us from these demons. He protected us so we could expose them, and we are.]
JDD: O Sudarsana Cakra, chief of the Lord’s emblems, symbol of power by which Lord Nrsimhadeva controls this whole cosmic manifestation. O invincible wheel of time, powerful as the sun and moon, impossible to check, You are the Lord’s final and ultimate weapon to kill the demons and protect the devotees.
[PADA: This is good except, the GBC, and its infamous members and associates like Bhakti Tirtha swami, Mahanidhi swami and others, are protecting the molester gurus program, as they -- have been all along -- and they are still thwarting Krishna's efforts to clean this up. Anyone who opposes their molester guru program is banned, beat and sometimes killed. This is also what happened at the time of Hiranyakasipu, anyone who objected to his rule was oppressed in exactly the same way as the bogus GBC gurus oppress others.]
JDD: Our souls are covered by the darkness of greed, anger, pride and the desire for fame. O Sudarsana, full of transcendental effulgence, kindly shine in our hearts and within our ISKCON and destroy the darkness. You easily disperse the magical forces of the demons, root and chase away the demon of aparadha from our minds and hearts and from our ISKCON society.
O Sword, your name is Vidyadhara. Please cut the roots of sin from our minds and from our beloved ISKCON and protect our tiny creepers of bhakti. O Lord Nrsimhadeva, there are many hidden demons lurking in our hearts and the heart of our society, please find them and destroy them with Your powerful hands.
O Lotus flower, You are the symbol of the Lord’s blessings. As bees live inside the lotus, may the bee of our minds always be sheltered within You. My dear Lord Nrsimhadeva please pick us up as You did Prahlada that we may become free of all fear and lamentation, full of love for Srila Prabhupada and Sri Sri Radha Syamasundara. May we become pure in heart and mind and empowered instruments of Your compassion and mercy in this world, engaging in sweet ways to please all Your devotees. By your grace Srila Prabhupada and the mercy of Lord Gauranga, Sri Nityananda Rama and the whole Panca Tattva, may we become again a strong and united society, empowered to turn back the tide of Kali for the benefit of all conditioned souls.
Jaya Sri Krsna Caitanya, Prabhu Nityananda, Sri Advaita, Gadadhara, Srivasadi Gaura bhakta vrnda
Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare
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JDD: The next part of our program is a message of healing, and forgiveness in the mood of Sri Prahlada Maharaja. When Prahlada, a small five year old boy, was asked by his father, the greatest demon in the history of the universe, what the best thing he’d learned in gurukula was, Prahlada did not hesitate to tell the truth, even though he knew he could be killed instantly for speaking it. He was only five.
[PADA: Very good point, anyone who speaks the truth is immediately targeted for oppression if not death by the Hiranyakasipu GBC guru program.]
JDD: Prahlada was the original gurukuli, speaking truth to power, fearlessly. He is our acarya. Please receive our attempt to follow in his footsteps.
[PADA: Right, I approached many of the parents myself in person, and many of them told me they knew ALL about the molesting problem. And yet, when I asked them to help me expose it and correct it, they would not. They were afraid. So, they forgot the example of Prahlad, that we need to speak the truth and be fearless. They hid under the bushes and let the pirates take over the town, to the peril of their own children.]
JDD: I was born in 1976, the year just before Srila Prabhupada was taken from our vision. I received a cookie from his hand by my Mother’s grace, at one month old. He wanted for the children of ISKCON, to be protected, facilitated, loved, and taught how to love Krsna.
I am a child of ISKCON, and now I have my own children, the generation Srila Prabhupada said would be pure devotees, and change the world. What I want for them, is what Srila Prabhupada wanted for us. But what happened to us, is not what I want for them. Thus, I am here before the Lord of the Universe, Lord Narasimha Bhagavan, on His most auspicious appearance day, to plead my case, and to beg for protection of this third generation.
[PADA: Well you are not off to a good start if you are surrendering your children to the same people who orchestrated the mass molesting and abuse of your generation. Of course we do not blame these gurukuli children for being in ignorance, their parents were for the most part compromised with the molester regime, and so the adults trained their children to be compromisers, like they are.]
JDD: My generations’s complete derailment, was due to conditions that are still present today.
[PADA: Right, the people who orchestrated the molester regime in the past are still present today. That is a great analysis, we agree. "Nothing has changed" -- great analysis!]
JDD: Although a lot has changed, the true reason for what happened, is not yet understood by the general mass of devotees.
[PADA: The "root cause" of the molesting are the bogus GBC leaders who orchestrated, protected and defended it, and who are still in charge, aided and abetted by the acquiescing parents, many of whom who are also still around. As one ex-child told me "this did not happen in a vacuum, ALL the adults are responsible (leaders and the parents), not us (the children)."]
JDD: Ladies, and gentlemen, we were attacked by demons in the guise of devotees at the very beginning of our lives.
[PADA: And the GBC gurus propped up these demons, and suppressed those of us who dissented, because they are part of the same process.]
JDD: We know that the devotee and demon are present in the same body in Kuliyuga. Srila Prabhupada warned us that there are demons amongst us, dressed as vaisnavas. There is a well known analogy given of a wolf dressed in sheep’s clothing, hiding amongst its prey, undetected. A simple sheep can never understand the mentality of a wolf, and thus loses one family member after another, unable to see the cause.
[PADA: And JDD has the apparently same problem, she is relying on some of the wolves to protect us from -- the other wolves? The fox is guarding the hen house here ...?]
JDD: Oh Lord Narasimhadeva, please kindly expose those wolf demons, within and without, and with your lion’s prowess, protect us, and our children. Let the hearts of those wolves be transformed at the sight of Sri Nrsimha Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Please engage us in spreading the yuga dharma, harinama sankirtan, the way Srila Prabhupada directed. Only by your blessings will we be free from the demon of hypocrisy.
[PADA: Lord Narasinghadeva has already done that, in spades. He has shown the whole world that these GBC leaders are causing mass molesting, crimes and murders, because its been in all the newspapers of the world. We all know what is the result of these GBC gurus program, namely mass child molesting, crimes and murders, its been all over the press media for years, starting in 1978.]
JDD: Srila Prabhupada told us that nothing was powerful enough to check the progress of this movement. Only attacks from within could destroy it. Therefore, knowing this, the personality of Kali used strategy, and proxies (people used to act on behalf of another), to do his dirty work.
Lord Caitanya’s right hand man was Srila Prabhupada. In Lord Caitanya’s pastimes, there were demoniac influences to be overcome, as portrayed in the pastimes of Jagai and Madhai and Chand Kazi. The personality of Kali has also sent his key representatives to challenge Srila Prabhupada’s powerful mission.
If we study the histories as outlined in scriptures describing the pastimes of Sri Caitanya, we will see that the rogue influences of Lord Caitanya’s time period were surrounded by their organized flanks of supporters. These supporters were controlled by their desire for power, fame, prestige, wealth, and even fear of retaliation if they showed a lack of loyalty.
[PADA: Very good, yes anyone who refuses to accept the molester messiahs program is in fear of retaliation, and that retaliation may include murders, excellent.]
JDD: Similarly, in our ISKCON, there has been a similarly organized, controlling class that has not had the best interests of the family of devotees, and the pure propagation of Srila Prabhupada’s mood and teachings, as their main concern. As with Jagai and Madhai, the abuses and offenses are unspeakable, and have hardly yet been revealed.
[PADA: Right, we have only scratched the surface of the GBC's crimes against humanity. They are unspeakable, because these GBC guru people are so degraded they have orchestrated every crime known to man. Excellent!]
JDD: This mood and influence has deeply pervaded our society, and its energy has been passed to our second, and even third, generation. Jagai and Madhai were conquered by the “tough love” tactics of Lord Caitanya and Lord Nityananda, and the Chand Kazi by the merciful gashes of Lord Nrsimhadeva. Let us rise together now in Harinam sankirtan, praying to invoke the special mercy of the Lord on this auspicious day, for our protection, the protection of the vaisnava parampara, and the protection of Srila Prabhupada’s glorious ISKCON, as he intended for it to be.
[PADA: OK, this always begs the question, what is the parampara? The GBC says the parampara is full of illicit sex with men, women and children. They are not protecting the parampara, they are attacking it. How can we save "the third generation" if we preach to them that the parampara is chock full of deviants, criminals and child molesters? Why are people teaching their babies that baby rapers are in their chain of messiahs? Sorry to have to point this out, but this is the sickest thing anyone could imagine, but it goes on daily.]
JDD: A whole new wave of gurukulis are remembering never before heard of atrocities.
[PADA: Good, yes, a lot of us do not even know the extent of the crimes committed against children by this bogus guru regime. Hence, "never before heard" atrocities.]
JDD: They are reliving repressed traumas that can only be understood by referencing the dark tantric rites described in epic histories such as Mahabharat, Ramayana, and Srimad Bhagavatam, as the religion of the rakshasas.
[PADA: Yes, good point, these GBC gurus and their regime is more like a ritualistic Satanic child abuse cult than a bona fide religion, agreed. Very good progress here!]
JDD: These last three years for me were spent in recovery and reliving the horrors of my abuse in the gurukula and beyond.
[PADA: Complete "recovery" means to address the root issue, who were the orchestrators of the children molesting regime? And we all know who they are, they have been the bogus post-1978 GBC and their bogus gurus. And -- who repressed those of us who were protesting the children abuse problem, ok, its the same people.]
JDD: After undergoing profound transformation, passing through the progression of healing; first ignorance, repression, inexplicable panic attacks, physical illnesses from the buried traumas, disbelief, shock, horror, rage that shook my very cells and wanted to consume the universe, fighting with feelings of revenge and suicide on a regular basis, causing me to cry out from the core of my being, “Why!? My Lord! Why?!”, being shown several past life sequences, coming into acceptance, integration, remorse, gratitude, and now finally, finally!, compassion….. compassion towards the perpetrators, and myself, yes now, now, I am ready to serve.
[PADA: Right, many of these victims have felt severe trauma, including suicidal feelings. There was an epidemic of suicides starting in 1996, which is why we helped these victims with the Windle Turley lawsuit, to try and curb the suicides that were most alarming, and sprouting more and more in that era. Oddly, some of our critics (ok people like Naranaryan das Visvakarma) says -- he had no idea that there was a suicide problem?
He keeps asking me to "name the people" who had suicidal tendencies? Well, there were hundreds, maybe thousands who had these tendencies, and some still do. The GBC leaders and their acquiescing lackeys never listened to these people like this brave woman here. The GBC leaders and others are not connected to these youth, and never were, so they never had any idea of the depth of these issues. Of course, if any of these people had been connected to children even remotely, they never would have allowed the children to become starved, beat, abused, molested and deprived of medical help etc. in the first place.]
JDD: Now, I no longer hold blame or anger in my heart towards the abusers, seeing myself as no better or different from them because after intense prayers for purification, Lord Nrsimhadeva ripped from my heart with His lotus hands a mountain of sin, accumulated over crores of lifetimes. Thus the karmic bond between myself and those who abused me is ended by His mercy with the sword of forgiveness. This is why the Lord has directed me to act as His humble messenger.
[PADA: Well that is nice, but if we want to protect our future generations, we need to uproot the entire GBC infrastructure that caused all this child abuse in the first place, because they are they cause of all these problems. And if we leave them to put their "tender mercies" on the next generation, these problems will perpetuate for generations. The enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexuals, pedophiles, deviants, wife stealers and so on, is wrong, and all those who participated and supported that program are implicated, and all of this has to be uprooted at the root. Or it will continue to sprout its head again, for generations.]
JDD: The symptoms of rampant abuse are to be seen amongst the gurukulis. No one can argue that it did not happen. The multimillion dollar court case brought it to everyone’s attention, after initial attempts to be heard and reconciled were ignored and denied by ISKCON’S leaders. There are still suicides of my peers, my friends, every year, at least a few, and on a lesser scale, pervasive dysfunctional behavior.
[PADA: Right, the lawsuit forcibly brought everyone out of their isolation and enforced denial, and gave immediate relief to the victims because now they were being acknowledged, hence the suicides at least subsided. My critics like Sanat, Mukunda and that group, they simply said that they wanted to see the victimized children "killed, chopped up and fed to dogs." And now Enver Ajanovic has joined with with the vicious Sanat and Mukunda team, who always wanted to see these poor molested children killed. They are angry that this court case has exposed their role in serving that evil empire. In other words, Sanat, Mukunda, Enver, they wanted these children to die, so it would hide their role in support of that regime. They are even worse than these GBC gurus, because at least the bogus gurus pretend they care about the children, these Sanat, Mukunda, and Enver type of people, they just come out in public and declare, oh goody, children, lets kill em!]
JDD: My intention in bringing this up, is not to put a downer on this festival day, or to ask for your pity. It is to bring to everyone’s attention that the reality of child abuse, and the still present perpetrators, is still far far from resolved. If we are to move forward as a society, with such huge impediments, who else can help us but the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself? Therefore, we have flown across the globe as beggars. Oh Lord Narahari! Please obliterate this tangled mess of karmic bonds!
[PADA: OK but you have to see where your bonds are attached to, before you can untie yourself.]
JDD: Because of Lord Narasimhadeva’s roaring, all the elephants in the world began to cry in fear. My dear Lord, our fledgling spiritual embassy, ISKCON, is overrun with herds of wild elephants in the form of offenses, especially to its women and children. Oh Divya Simha, please open your gaping, fearful mouth, and allow us all to hear your tumultuous, fierce roaring! When, oh when will we be free from their trampling!?
[PADA: When enough people wake up and stand up. Rather amazing, a woman has to lead the charge against this odious regime! How sinful is that by itself? A poor defenseless woman has to lead the charge against the molester messiahs regime? And where are all these brave ISKCON men, ooops, hiding behind her skirt?]
JDD: Sri Prahlada stood in front of Lord Narasimhadeva, hairs erect due to ecstasy, while incessantly shedding tears of love for the object of his constant meditation. Oh Lord Narasimha, when will we, the second generation, make You, the only Shelter of the universe, the sole subject of our meditation? Without feeling the painful duality of illusion, considering one to be a friend or foe, ourselves victims, and others perpetrators, when, oh, when, will we come to our true position as Your chastened eternal servants? When will we accept our own accountability, and be able to pray like Prahlada on behalf of the father that tortured and tried to kill him?
Dear Prahlada Maharaja, seeing our pitiful situation, please have mercy on us, and make us and engage us in the service of your Lord Narasimhadeva.
Lord Nityananda Prabhu predicted that there would arise an astonishing mandir from which the eternal worship of Sri Krsna would spread all over this wretched world. It would be the beacon of light, the spiritual embassy, and portal to Goloka Vrindavan, for all conditioned souls to come and take shelter. For the next 10,000yrs, this temple would be the very heart and core of Sri Caitanya’s sankirtan movement.
Why is such an important and divinely predicted temple being erected in such haste, with some of the world-wide devotees loving it, and others half sick to their stomachs at the mere sight of it? Why are the very same persons who raped and tortured us as children given charge of building it? What is the agenda? How has this been allowed to go on?
[PADA: Yep, their big buildings are making most of us sick to our stomachs, because they have the molester regime inside the building, agreed.]
JDD: Just last year, in the Mayapur newsletter, there was a report of dismembered body parts of a child found. People may assume it must be outsiders. Ladies, and gentlemen, there be wolves amongst us! Ritual abuse is a reality in the 21st century. It is Kali’s favorite religion, and pervades international governments, churches, and powerful organizations.
[PADA: Wow, this woman has got some brass ones! I'll fight with her alone by my side any day of the week, and not 10,000 cheap ISKCON guru's frauds and fools.]
JDD: There are many authoritative books, and interviews with former FBI agents and other experts, who report on this hard truth. You can go to the website to find some of these references,http://www.praylikeprahlada.com.
I experienced this kind of abuse as a child in ISKCON. I know for a fact the faces of the main perpetrators. I was on the sacrifical table many a time. There are others who also remember.
Parents, keep your children close. We are among wolves.
If they are allowed to be amongst us in responsible positions, what kind of leverage must they have on others? Oh Protector of Prahlada, when will we as a society be simple like children, without guile and deceit, simply practicing bhakti, happy for each other’s association, without the blackmail and power struggles that characterize demoniac civilization?
Ladies and gentlemen, everyone knows that a building is only as strong and safe as its foundation, a society as healthy as its family units, and an individual as pure and empowered as their practices. Is a disease diagnosed by its symptoms?
As a child veteran of our ISKCON, I am almost 40 years old now. From where I stand, surveying the past, present, and future, I see very unprepared, rocky, and sinking sand, underneath the foundation of our movement, symbolized by that temple. I see the terrain littered with broken dysfunctional families and individuals, many of whom are scattered to the four corners of the earth, licking their wounds after giving their all to try to steer our present ISKCON society towards the path chalked out for us by His Divine Grace.
Simultaneously, alongside the wonderful manifestations of Sri Harinama’s propagation in the world, there is still a host of very serious symptoms of illness. Everyone knows there are issues, it is Kaliyuga after all, but until know, we could not put our finger on just why. The picture gets clearer, the more time that passes.
There is a deep arrowhead embedded in the body. It is festering and reducing vitality. It is under the skin, and not visible, but after these many long years, the body is beginning to expel it on its own. As it comes out, there will be pus, and pain, but health will soon follow. Let us not push it back in, denying that we were ever shot. Accept the injury, its cause, and courageously release it.
My dear Lord Narasimha, we are experiencing attacks from all sides. Let us make the measure of our success, the satisfaction of each and every guest and member of our society, not how many buildings are built, money collected, or projects completed. Let us passionately endeavor for the real wealth, the position of servant of the servant, of the servant, of Sri Sri Radha Madhava.
I issue a world wide plea. My dear devotees, please do not further condemn these already unfortunate souls by either enabling them, or criticizing them. In the mood of the child saint, for whose sake Lord Narasimhadeva appeared, please, my dear vaisnavas, please pray for our present day Hiranyakasipu’s.
Dear Lord, You Who have recently appeared as Lord Nityananda, Patitapavana, Kaliyuga Pavana, Gaurahari, let the mountain of sins that surround the hearts of these devotee-clad demons fall away. Let us pray for their welfare, at Your lotus feet.
With the nails of Your lotus hands, please deliver them! The only effective solution was shown by Prahlada Maharaja, the great mahajana. Let us stop feeding the rabid dog of Kali with this useless entangling approach of pointing fingers in anger. The only way to resolve the unresolvable is to first come to our own accountability for our karmic walk in life, being grateful to the instruments of our correction.
Then we must draw very rigid, strong boundaries, the kind that Srila Prabhupda drew when he was made aware of one case of abuse. He banned that abuser from ever setting foot on ISKON property again. Later, only due to the pushing of similarly contaminated disciples, did Srila Prabhupada relent, and allow that person to take prasadam at the Sunday feast.
We lack boundaries, and thus are now surrounded by wolves. It is violence to artificially offer forgiveness and leniency to a perpetrator. There is a process of transformation that must be practically gone through. It begins with strong boundaries, holding them firmly accountable. Then, after a long process of healing, both the victim and abuser can come to the transcendental position, and feelingly see that, “My dear Lord, where is the fault?”
tat te ‘nukampam su-samikshamano
bhunjana evatma-kritam vipakam
hrid-vag-vapurbhir vidadhan namas te
jiveta yo mukti-pade sa daya-bhak
My dear Lord, one who earnestly waits for You to bestow Your causeless mercy upon him, all the while patiently suffering the reactions of his past misdeeds and offering You respectful obeisances with his heart, words and body, is surely eligible for liberation, for it has become his rightful claim. (Srimad Bhagavatam 10.14.8)
All of you who have been involved are now being asked to put down the dress of the enemy, let real remorse fill your hearts and wash them clean. This is the Lord’s desire for you. Accept the shelter and correction of our Eternal Father. The invasion of demons in our hearts and in Srila Prabhupada’s ISKCON must now end. Give them no more power! We belong to Srila Prabhupada! Dear master, please save us!
The Lord has directed me to speak like this. It is for everyone’s upliftment only. I have no authority on my own account.
[PADA: That is correct, the Lord inspired her to say all this!]
Oh Supreme Personality of Godhead, you have brought me here. Please now confirm the truth of this message. Oh All seeing, omniscient one, You are my witness. Please protect me. Please protect our third generation.
My dear vaisnavas, please join with me in prayer:
svasty astu visvasya khalah prasidatam
dhyayantu bhutani sivam mitho dhiya
manas ca bhadram bhajatad adhokshaje
avesyatam no matir apy ahaituki
May there be good fortune throughout the universe, and may all envious persons be pacified. May all living entities become calm by practicing bhakti-yoga, for by accepting devotional service they will think of each other’s welfare. Therefore let us all engage in the service of the supreme transcendence, Lord Sri Krishna, and always remain absorbed in thought of Him.(Srimad Bhagavatam 5.18.9)
vancha-kalpa-tarubhyas ca
kripa-sindhubhya eva ca
patitanam pavanebhyo
vaishnavebhyo namo namah
Please join us for all night kirtan on Monday May 27th outside in the courtyard of Sri Sri Radha Madhava’s altar. Bring your torches, mridangas, whompers and conch-shells, and a burning fire for Harinama in your heart!
[PD: You go girl! If there is any help I can render your program, please feel free to contact me @ angel108b@yahoo.com, or 707-477-4102 (California time). Also, as a personal note, watch your back. FYI: I am praying to Lord Narasimhadeva to watch your back. ys pd]
O Sword, your name is Vidyadhara. Please cut the roots of sin from our minds and from our beloved ISKCON and protect our tiny creepers of bhakti. O Lord Nrsimhadeva, there are many hidden demons lurking in our hearts and the heart of our society, please find them and destroy them with Your powerful hands.
O Lotus flower, You are the symbol of the Lord’s blessings. As bees live inside the lotus, may the bee of our minds always be sheltered within You. My dear Lord Nrsimhadeva please pick us up as You did Prahlada that we may become free of all fear and lamentation, full of love for Srila Prabhupada and Sri Sri Radha Syamasundara. May we become pure in heart and mind and empowered instruments of Your compassion and mercy in this world, engaging in sweet ways to please all Your devotees. By your grace Srila Prabhupada and the mercy of Lord Gauranga, Sri Nityananda Rama and the whole Panca Tattva, may we become again a strong and united society, empowered to turn back the tide of Kali for the benefit of all conditioned souls.
Jaya Sri Krsna Caitanya, Prabhu Nityananda, Sri Advaita, Gadadhara, Srivasadi Gaura bhakta vrnda
Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare
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JDD: The next part of our program is a message of healing, and forgiveness in the mood of Sri Prahlada Maharaja. When Prahlada, a small five year old boy, was asked by his father, the greatest demon in the history of the universe, what the best thing he’d learned in gurukula was, Prahlada did not hesitate to tell the truth, even though he knew he could be killed instantly for speaking it. He was only five.
[PADA: Very good point, anyone who speaks the truth is immediately targeted for oppression if not death by the Hiranyakasipu GBC guru program.]
JDD: Prahlada was the original gurukuli, speaking truth to power, fearlessly. He is our acarya. Please receive our attempt to follow in his footsteps.
[PADA: Right, I approached many of the parents myself in person, and many of them told me they knew ALL about the molesting problem. And yet, when I asked them to help me expose it and correct it, they would not. They were afraid. So, they forgot the example of Prahlad, that we need to speak the truth and be fearless. They hid under the bushes and let the pirates take over the town, to the peril of their own children.]
JDD: I was born in 1976, the year just before Srila Prabhupada was taken from our vision. I received a cookie from his hand by my Mother’s grace, at one month old. He wanted for the children of ISKCON, to be protected, facilitated, loved, and taught how to love Krsna.
I am a child of ISKCON, and now I have my own children, the generation Srila Prabhupada said would be pure devotees, and change the world. What I want for them, is what Srila Prabhupada wanted for us. But what happened to us, is not what I want for them. Thus, I am here before the Lord of the Universe, Lord Narasimha Bhagavan, on His most auspicious appearance day, to plead my case, and to beg for protection of this third generation.
[PADA: Well you are not off to a good start if you are surrendering your children to the same people who orchestrated the mass molesting and abuse of your generation. Of course we do not blame these gurukuli children for being in ignorance, their parents were for the most part compromised with the molester regime, and so the adults trained their children to be compromisers, like they are.]
JDD: My generations’s complete derailment, was due to conditions that are still present today.
[PADA: Right, the people who orchestrated the molester regime in the past are still present today. That is a great analysis, we agree. "Nothing has changed" -- great analysis!]
JDD: Although a lot has changed, the true reason for what happened, is not yet understood by the general mass of devotees.
[PADA: The "root cause" of the molesting are the bogus GBC leaders who orchestrated, protected and defended it, and who are still in charge, aided and abetted by the acquiescing parents, many of whom who are also still around. As one ex-child told me "this did not happen in a vacuum, ALL the adults are responsible (leaders and the parents), not us (the children)."]
JDD: Ladies, and gentlemen, we were attacked by demons in the guise of devotees at the very beginning of our lives.
[PADA: And the GBC gurus propped up these demons, and suppressed those of us who dissented, because they are part of the same process.]
JDD: We know that the devotee and demon are present in the same body in Kuliyuga. Srila Prabhupada warned us that there are demons amongst us, dressed as vaisnavas. There is a well known analogy given of a wolf dressed in sheep’s clothing, hiding amongst its prey, undetected. A simple sheep can never understand the mentality of a wolf, and thus loses one family member after another, unable to see the cause.
[PADA: And JDD has the apparently same problem, she is relying on some of the wolves to protect us from -- the other wolves? The fox is guarding the hen house here ...?]
JDD: Oh Lord Narasimhadeva, please kindly expose those wolf demons, within and without, and with your lion’s prowess, protect us, and our children. Let the hearts of those wolves be transformed at the sight of Sri Nrsimha Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Please engage us in spreading the yuga dharma, harinama sankirtan, the way Srila Prabhupada directed. Only by your blessings will we be free from the demon of hypocrisy.
[PADA: Lord Narasinghadeva has already done that, in spades. He has shown the whole world that these GBC leaders are causing mass molesting, crimes and murders, because its been in all the newspapers of the world. We all know what is the result of these GBC gurus program, namely mass child molesting, crimes and murders, its been all over the press media for years, starting in 1978.]
JDD: Srila Prabhupada told us that nothing was powerful enough to check the progress of this movement. Only attacks from within could destroy it. Therefore, knowing this, the personality of Kali used strategy, and proxies (people used to act on behalf of another), to do his dirty work.
Lord Caitanya’s right hand man was Srila Prabhupada. In Lord Caitanya’s pastimes, there were demoniac influences to be overcome, as portrayed in the pastimes of Jagai and Madhai and Chand Kazi. The personality of Kali has also sent his key representatives to challenge Srila Prabhupada’s powerful mission.
If we study the histories as outlined in scriptures describing the pastimes of Sri Caitanya, we will see that the rogue influences of Lord Caitanya’s time period were surrounded by their organized flanks of supporters. These supporters were controlled by their desire for power, fame, prestige, wealth, and even fear of retaliation if they showed a lack of loyalty.
[PADA: Very good, yes anyone who refuses to accept the molester messiahs program is in fear of retaliation, and that retaliation may include murders, excellent.]
JDD: Similarly, in our ISKCON, there has been a similarly organized, controlling class that has not had the best interests of the family of devotees, and the pure propagation of Srila Prabhupada’s mood and teachings, as their main concern. As with Jagai and Madhai, the abuses and offenses are unspeakable, and have hardly yet been revealed.
[PADA: Right, we have only scratched the surface of the GBC's crimes against humanity. They are unspeakable, because these GBC guru people are so degraded they have orchestrated every crime known to man. Excellent!]
JDD: This mood and influence has deeply pervaded our society, and its energy has been passed to our second, and even third, generation. Jagai and Madhai were conquered by the “tough love” tactics of Lord Caitanya and Lord Nityananda, and the Chand Kazi by the merciful gashes of Lord Nrsimhadeva. Let us rise together now in Harinam sankirtan, praying to invoke the special mercy of the Lord on this auspicious day, for our protection, the protection of the vaisnava parampara, and the protection of Srila Prabhupada’s glorious ISKCON, as he intended for it to be.
[PADA: OK, this always begs the question, what is the parampara? The GBC says the parampara is full of illicit sex with men, women and children. They are not protecting the parampara, they are attacking it. How can we save "the third generation" if we preach to them that the parampara is chock full of deviants, criminals and child molesters? Why are people teaching their babies that baby rapers are in their chain of messiahs? Sorry to have to point this out, but this is the sickest thing anyone could imagine, but it goes on daily.]
JDD: A whole new wave of gurukulis are remembering never before heard of atrocities.
[PADA: Good, yes, a lot of us do not even know the extent of the crimes committed against children by this bogus guru regime. Hence, "never before heard" atrocities.]
JDD: They are reliving repressed traumas that can only be understood by referencing the dark tantric rites described in epic histories such as Mahabharat, Ramayana, and Srimad Bhagavatam, as the religion of the rakshasas.
[PADA: Yes, good point, these GBC gurus and their regime is more like a ritualistic Satanic child abuse cult than a bona fide religion, agreed. Very good progress here!]
JDD: These last three years for me were spent in recovery and reliving the horrors of my abuse in the gurukula and beyond.
[PADA: Complete "recovery" means to address the root issue, who were the orchestrators of the children molesting regime? And we all know who they are, they have been the bogus post-1978 GBC and their bogus gurus. And -- who repressed those of us who were protesting the children abuse problem, ok, its the same people.]
JDD: After undergoing profound transformation, passing through the progression of healing; first ignorance, repression, inexplicable panic attacks, physical illnesses from the buried traumas, disbelief, shock, horror, rage that shook my very cells and wanted to consume the universe, fighting with feelings of revenge and suicide on a regular basis, causing me to cry out from the core of my being, “Why!? My Lord! Why?!”, being shown several past life sequences, coming into acceptance, integration, remorse, gratitude, and now finally, finally!, compassion….. compassion towards the perpetrators, and myself, yes now, now, I am ready to serve.
[PADA: Right, many of these victims have felt severe trauma, including suicidal feelings. There was an epidemic of suicides starting in 1996, which is why we helped these victims with the Windle Turley lawsuit, to try and curb the suicides that were most alarming, and sprouting more and more in that era. Oddly, some of our critics (ok people like Naranaryan das Visvakarma) says -- he had no idea that there was a suicide problem?
He keeps asking me to "name the people" who had suicidal tendencies? Well, there were hundreds, maybe thousands who had these tendencies, and some still do. The GBC leaders and their acquiescing lackeys never listened to these people like this brave woman here. The GBC leaders and others are not connected to these youth, and never were, so they never had any idea of the depth of these issues. Of course, if any of these people had been connected to children even remotely, they never would have allowed the children to become starved, beat, abused, molested and deprived of medical help etc. in the first place.]
JDD: Now, I no longer hold blame or anger in my heart towards the abusers, seeing myself as no better or different from them because after intense prayers for purification, Lord Nrsimhadeva ripped from my heart with His lotus hands a mountain of sin, accumulated over crores of lifetimes. Thus the karmic bond between myself and those who abused me is ended by His mercy with the sword of forgiveness. This is why the Lord has directed me to act as His humble messenger.
[PADA: Well that is nice, but if we want to protect our future generations, we need to uproot the entire GBC infrastructure that caused all this child abuse in the first place, because they are they cause of all these problems. And if we leave them to put their "tender mercies" on the next generation, these problems will perpetuate for generations. The enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexuals, pedophiles, deviants, wife stealers and so on, is wrong, and all those who participated and supported that program are implicated, and all of this has to be uprooted at the root. Or it will continue to sprout its head again, for generations.]
JDD: The symptoms of rampant abuse are to be seen amongst the gurukulis. No one can argue that it did not happen. The multimillion dollar court case brought it to everyone’s attention, after initial attempts to be heard and reconciled were ignored and denied by ISKCON’S leaders. There are still suicides of my peers, my friends, every year, at least a few, and on a lesser scale, pervasive dysfunctional behavior.
[PADA: Right, the lawsuit forcibly brought everyone out of their isolation and enforced denial, and gave immediate relief to the victims because now they were being acknowledged, hence the suicides at least subsided. My critics like Sanat, Mukunda and that group, they simply said that they wanted to see the victimized children "killed, chopped up and fed to dogs." And now Enver Ajanovic has joined with with the vicious Sanat and Mukunda team, who always wanted to see these poor molested children killed. They are angry that this court case has exposed their role in serving that evil empire. In other words, Sanat, Mukunda, Enver, they wanted these children to die, so it would hide their role in support of that regime. They are even worse than these GBC gurus, because at least the bogus gurus pretend they care about the children, these Sanat, Mukunda, and Enver type of people, they just come out in public and declare, oh goody, children, lets kill em!]
JDD: My intention in bringing this up, is not to put a downer on this festival day, or to ask for your pity. It is to bring to everyone’s attention that the reality of child abuse, and the still present perpetrators, is still far far from resolved. If we are to move forward as a society, with such huge impediments, who else can help us but the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself? Therefore, we have flown across the globe as beggars. Oh Lord Narahari! Please obliterate this tangled mess of karmic bonds!
[PADA: OK but you have to see where your bonds are attached to, before you can untie yourself.]
JDD: Because of Lord Narasimhadeva’s roaring, all the elephants in the world began to cry in fear. My dear Lord, our fledgling spiritual embassy, ISKCON, is overrun with herds of wild elephants in the form of offenses, especially to its women and children. Oh Divya Simha, please open your gaping, fearful mouth, and allow us all to hear your tumultuous, fierce roaring! When, oh when will we be free from their trampling!?
[PADA: When enough people wake up and stand up. Rather amazing, a woman has to lead the charge against this odious regime! How sinful is that by itself? A poor defenseless woman has to lead the charge against the molester messiahs regime? And where are all these brave ISKCON men, ooops, hiding behind her skirt?]
JDD: Sri Prahlada stood in front of Lord Narasimhadeva, hairs erect due to ecstasy, while incessantly shedding tears of love for the object of his constant meditation. Oh Lord Narasimha, when will we, the second generation, make You, the only Shelter of the universe, the sole subject of our meditation? Without feeling the painful duality of illusion, considering one to be a friend or foe, ourselves victims, and others perpetrators, when, oh, when, will we come to our true position as Your chastened eternal servants? When will we accept our own accountability, and be able to pray like Prahlada on behalf of the father that tortured and tried to kill him?
Dear Prahlada Maharaja, seeing our pitiful situation, please have mercy on us, and make us and engage us in the service of your Lord Narasimhadeva.
Lord Nityananda Prabhu predicted that there would arise an astonishing mandir from which the eternal worship of Sri Krsna would spread all over this wretched world. It would be the beacon of light, the spiritual embassy, and portal to Goloka Vrindavan, for all conditioned souls to come and take shelter. For the next 10,000yrs, this temple would be the very heart and core of Sri Caitanya’s sankirtan movement.
Why is such an important and divinely predicted temple being erected in such haste, with some of the world-wide devotees loving it, and others half sick to their stomachs at the mere sight of it? Why are the very same persons who raped and tortured us as children given charge of building it? What is the agenda? How has this been allowed to go on?
[PADA: Yep, their big buildings are making most of us sick to our stomachs, because they have the molester regime inside the building, agreed.]
JDD: Just last year, in the Mayapur newsletter, there was a report of dismembered body parts of a child found. People may assume it must be outsiders. Ladies, and gentlemen, there be wolves amongst us! Ritual abuse is a reality in the 21st century. It is Kali’s favorite religion, and pervades international governments, churches, and powerful organizations.
[PADA: Wow, this woman has got some brass ones! I'll fight with her alone by my side any day of the week, and not 10,000 cheap ISKCON guru's frauds and fools.]
JDD: There are many authoritative books, and interviews with former FBI agents and other experts, who report on this hard truth. You can go to the website to find some of these references,http://www.praylikeprahlada.com.
I experienced this kind of abuse as a child in ISKCON. I know for a fact the faces of the main perpetrators. I was on the sacrifical table many a time. There are others who also remember.
Parents, keep your children close. We are among wolves.
If they are allowed to be amongst us in responsible positions, what kind of leverage must they have on others? Oh Protector of Prahlada, when will we as a society be simple like children, without guile and deceit, simply practicing bhakti, happy for each other’s association, without the blackmail and power struggles that characterize demoniac civilization?
Ladies and gentlemen, everyone knows that a building is only as strong and safe as its foundation, a society as healthy as its family units, and an individual as pure and empowered as their practices. Is a disease diagnosed by its symptoms?
As a child veteran of our ISKCON, I am almost 40 years old now. From where I stand, surveying the past, present, and future, I see very unprepared, rocky, and sinking sand, underneath the foundation of our movement, symbolized by that temple. I see the terrain littered with broken dysfunctional families and individuals, many of whom are scattered to the four corners of the earth, licking their wounds after giving their all to try to steer our present ISKCON society towards the path chalked out for us by His Divine Grace.
Simultaneously, alongside the wonderful manifestations of Sri Harinama’s propagation in the world, there is still a host of very serious symptoms of illness. Everyone knows there are issues, it is Kaliyuga after all, but until know, we could not put our finger on just why. The picture gets clearer, the more time that passes.
There is a deep arrowhead embedded in the body. It is festering and reducing vitality. It is under the skin, and not visible, but after these many long years, the body is beginning to expel it on its own. As it comes out, there will be pus, and pain, but health will soon follow. Let us not push it back in, denying that we were ever shot. Accept the injury, its cause, and courageously release it.
My dear Lord Narasimha, we are experiencing attacks from all sides. Let us make the measure of our success, the satisfaction of each and every guest and member of our society, not how many buildings are built, money collected, or projects completed. Let us passionately endeavor for the real wealth, the position of servant of the servant, of the servant, of Sri Sri Radha Madhava.
I issue a world wide plea. My dear devotees, please do not further condemn these already unfortunate souls by either enabling them, or criticizing them. In the mood of the child saint, for whose sake Lord Narasimhadeva appeared, please, my dear vaisnavas, please pray for our present day Hiranyakasipu’s.
Dear Lord, You Who have recently appeared as Lord Nityananda, Patitapavana, Kaliyuga Pavana, Gaurahari, let the mountain of sins that surround the hearts of these devotee-clad demons fall away. Let us pray for their welfare, at Your lotus feet.
With the nails of Your lotus hands, please deliver them! The only effective solution was shown by Prahlada Maharaja, the great mahajana. Let us stop feeding the rabid dog of Kali with this useless entangling approach of pointing fingers in anger. The only way to resolve the unresolvable is to first come to our own accountability for our karmic walk in life, being grateful to the instruments of our correction.
Then we must draw very rigid, strong boundaries, the kind that Srila Prabhupda drew when he was made aware of one case of abuse. He banned that abuser from ever setting foot on ISKON property again. Later, only due to the pushing of similarly contaminated disciples, did Srila Prabhupada relent, and allow that person to take prasadam at the Sunday feast.
We lack boundaries, and thus are now surrounded by wolves. It is violence to artificially offer forgiveness and leniency to a perpetrator. There is a process of transformation that must be practically gone through. It begins with strong boundaries, holding them firmly accountable. Then, after a long process of healing, both the victim and abuser can come to the transcendental position, and feelingly see that, “My dear Lord, where is the fault?”
tat te ‘nukampam su-samikshamano
bhunjana evatma-kritam vipakam
hrid-vag-vapurbhir vidadhan namas te
jiveta yo mukti-pade sa daya-bhak
My dear Lord, one who earnestly waits for You to bestow Your causeless mercy upon him, all the while patiently suffering the reactions of his past misdeeds and offering You respectful obeisances with his heart, words and body, is surely eligible for liberation, for it has become his rightful claim. (Srimad Bhagavatam 10.14.8)
All of you who have been involved are now being asked to put down the dress of the enemy, let real remorse fill your hearts and wash them clean. This is the Lord’s desire for you. Accept the shelter and correction of our Eternal Father. The invasion of demons in our hearts and in Srila Prabhupada’s ISKCON must now end. Give them no more power! We belong to Srila Prabhupada! Dear master, please save us!
The Lord has directed me to speak like this. It is for everyone’s upliftment only. I have no authority on my own account.
[PADA: That is correct, the Lord inspired her to say all this!]
Oh Supreme Personality of Godhead, you have brought me here. Please now confirm the truth of this message. Oh All seeing, omniscient one, You are my witness. Please protect me. Please protect our third generation.
My dear vaisnavas, please join with me in prayer:
svasty astu visvasya khalah prasidatam
dhyayantu bhutani sivam mitho dhiya
manas ca bhadram bhajatad adhokshaje
avesyatam no matir apy ahaituki
May there be good fortune throughout the universe, and may all envious persons be pacified. May all living entities become calm by practicing bhakti-yoga, for by accepting devotional service they will think of each other’s welfare. Therefore let us all engage in the service of the supreme transcendence, Lord Sri Krishna, and always remain absorbed in thought of Him.(Srimad Bhagavatam 5.18.9)
vancha-kalpa-tarubhyas ca
kripa-sindhubhya eva ca
patitanam pavanebhyo
vaishnavebhyo namo namah
Please join us for all night kirtan on Monday May 27th outside in the courtyard of Sri Sri Radha Madhava’s altar. Bring your torches, mridangas, whompers and conch-shells, and a burning fire for Harinama in your heart!
[PD: You go girl! If there is any help I can render your program, please feel free to contact me @ angel108b@yahoo.com, or 707-477-4102 (California time). Also, as a personal note, watch your back. FYI: I am praying to Lord Narasimhadeva to watch your back. ys pd]
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