How to distinguish the genuine guru from fake - unrealized guru within the present Gaudiya Vaishnavism - Cheap gurus including present Iskcon gurus ?
NOTE : We learn this from Nectar of Devotion Chapter 16 where His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada explains :
“A devotee who is actually advanced in Krsna consciousness, who is constantly engaged in devotional service, SHOULD NOT MANIFEST HIMSELF, even though he has attained perfection. The idea is that he should always continue to act as a neophyte devotee as long as his material body is there. Activities in devotional service under regulative principles must be followed even by the pure devotee.
But when he realizes his actual position in relationship with the Lord, he can, along with the discharging of regulative service, think within himself of the Lord, under the guidance of a particular associate of the Lord, and develop his transcendental sentiments in following that associate.” OM TAT SAT. AGTSP. HARE KRISHNA.
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KIRTANANANDA SAMADHI PROJECT
October 25, 2011: On this date in history 14 years ago, one day after Bhaktipada's death at Jupiter Hospital in Thane, India, Radha Vrindaban Chandra Swami, Bhaktipada's greatest sycophant, announces that Bhaktipada’s body will be taken to Vrindaban, the holiest pilgrimage place on earth for Gaudiya-Vaishnavas, although no one knows where in Vrindaban his corpse will be interred.
October 25, 2011: On this date in history 14 years ago, one day after Bhaktipada's death at Jupiter Hospital in Thane, India, Radha Vrindaban Chandra Swami, Bhaktipada's greatest sycophant, announces that Bhaktipada’s body will be taken to Vrindaban, the holiest pilgrimage place on earth for Gaudiya-Vaishnavas, although no one knows where in Vrindaban his corpse will be interred.
Bhaktipada’s disciple Sanatan dasa, who lives in an ashram at the Radha Gokulananda Mandir in Vrindaban, suggests that Bhaktipada’s body should be interred there, alongside the samadhis of the great Vaishnava acharyas Lokanath Goswami, Narottama dasa Thakur and Vishvanath Chakravarti Thakur.
Many members and former members of ISKCON—who had knowledge of Bhaktipada’s involvement in the murders of Cakradhari and Sulochan and his long history of sexual abuse of boys and teenagers—were not pleased when they heard that Bhaktipada’s disciples and followers were planning to place his body in "samadhi" at the Radha Gokulananda Mandir.
“To let a battered soul rest is one thing,” says an unnamed devotee in an article published by the online news blog, Vrindaban Today. “But this man, to the very end, never offered a word of apology or explanation to those who suffered due his deeds. And now he is going to be put in samadhi at Radha Gokulananda?! At least the other ISKCON departed are put in graves at their own properties. How will anyone who knows the truth not be disturbed when taking darshan of the great Gaudiya acharyas and seeing his memorial there?”
Bhaktipada’s body--in an ice-filled wooden coffin--is taken on a journey of nearly 1,000 miles: from Thane, to Chatrapati Shivaji International Airport in Mumbai, where it is shipped on a flight to Indira Gandhi International Airport in Delhi, and then driven by truck to Vrindaban. The ice melts.
Bhaktipada’s plywood coffin is refilled with fresh ice and covered with marigold flower garlands, and brought to Radha Gokulananda Mandir, located between Kesi Ghat and the Radha Damodara temple. This is one of the famed seven temples of the Goswamis, founded by Lokanath Goswami, one of the personal associates of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.
Behind the temple is a small house and Bhaktipada’s body is placed in one of the rooms. Here Bhaktipada's disciples and well wishers offer their final respects. The entire Rishikesh Yatra, led by His Holiness Bhakti Yoga Swami, misses the blessed event, due to a mis-communication.
Bhakti Aloka Paramadwaiti Swami (Ulrich Harlan, formerly Alanath Swami, a Prabhupada disciple who left ISKCON in the mid-1980s to join B. R. Sridhar Swami’s math) delivers a eulogy. After Paramadvaiti Swami’s eulogy, devotees cheer and begin kirtan. However, soon their joyful mood darkens considerably when the Radha Gokulananda temple managers inform them that they will not permit Bhaktipada’s body to be buried anywhere within their temple compound.
For more about this topic, see “Gold, Guns and God,” Vol. 10, p. 169.
For more about this topic, see “Gold, Guns and God,” Vol. 10, p. 169.
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RUSSIA RUNNING LOW ON MEN
(they just lost another 950 men yesterday -- evidently).
Solution? Send in the ladies! These are the people fighting for "family values" mind you! Russia already had millions more females than men BEFORE the war, the war has simply made the situation worse. Some Russian computer tech guys I met in San Francisco said "we are never going back, we intend to remain alive." Good idea!
As one Russian mother said, "Putin is making Russia into a nation of crying mothers and wives, and crying children who will never see their fathers again." Well yep. A leader who makes the citizens cry, oh I forgot, same thing as ISKCON.
Anyway, this will help balance all the losses of men, now they will have losses of women too. Sorry, women will get wiped out just as fast as the men. Whole population will be reduced. That will fix everything! Sheesh pilgrims! ys pd
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RMD: There is our whole problem right there. Almost all of Prabhupada devotees thought, let us find another guru. Who needs Prabhupada? We need a NEW and BETTER and IMPROVED living guide.
ReplyDeleteAnd the living guides? They will guide us to worshiping 11 GBC fools. Or other fools. Not very good guidance ... after all? And now ... everyone is off worshiping other gurus. Or drinking beer.
And the whole movement is splinters with GBC gurus, Sridhar, Narayan, Babaji, Mayavada, Hindu God men, Durga pooja, Bhagvat Sapta, then ... there is no one left in ISKCON to worship Prabhupada.
Or Krishna. Empty ... except for some bewildered Hindus ... on Sunday. Tower of Babel, all kinds of groups, none of them get along.
Everyone thought these new and improved living guides ... are going to improve ISKCON, but it destroys ISKCON. And destroys the lives of the devotees, and their children.
Now people are FED UP, and won't go near a temple. Like asking them to drink sour and moldy milk. Not interested. They made ISKCON a toxic place to be, and so now everyone avoids. But almost everyone is part of what happened. They made it or they allowed it.
And they are going to get a reaction for making this mess out of Prabhupada's movement. They wanted something else, not Prabhupada, and they got what they wanted. But it is not what Prabhupada wanted.
*** Russian women are going to war? They are mostly not as big as a man ... and carrying a big 45 pounds back pack and weapons and supplies wont work well for them.
They will get more tired and not be able to go ahead. They won't be able to fight as hard as a man, in other words, a lot of them will die. This is not ending well for Russia, or for anyone really.
Sending women to the front lines means ... Russia is failing. No wonder they made it so we cannot call people's phones there now, they are hiding their people from the outside news. Winter is coming and it is going to be nightmare to be on the front lines now, this is really bad for these women. Russia is not following religion.